Pro and Con 1810

Posted 7-16-14



David said, "IN THE TIME OF TROUBLE he shall hide me in his pavilion (sok, pavilion or tabernacle): in the secret
of his tabernacle (ohel, tent, dwelling place, tabernacle) shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a ROCK." (Psa 27:5)

That sure sounds like the First Trump Rapture will be Mid-Trib. Hidden in thick amber clouds, the "ROCK" is Saturn.

The secret of his Tabernacle is that the cube called the Holy of Holies represented the globe Saturn. Like New Jerusalem, it's length, width and height are equal. The two cubes of the Holy Place represented Mars and Jupiter. The altar and Brazen Sea represented Earth.

Psa_40:2,3 David said, "He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay (i.e., out of Earth), and set my feet upon a ROCK (Saturn), and established my goings. 3 And he hath put a NEW SONG in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it (i.e., the Rapture), and fear, and shall trust in the LORD."


Rev_5:9 And they (i.e., the Philadelphian saints) sung a NEW SONG, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation"

Psa 149:5-9 says, "Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds. 6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; 7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; 8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; 9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD."


Of the Last-Trump Rapture, Rev_14:3 says, "And they sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth."

Rev 7:14,15 says, "These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God".


Rev 6:12-17 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; and who shall be able to stand?"

Jos 10:11-14 says, "And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that THE LORD CAST DOWN GREAT STONES FROM HEAVEN UPON THEM unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword. 12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. 13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. 14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel."


Isa_24:1 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."


A POST ON FIVE DOVES, RE: Pastor Bob (13 July 2014)"Rosh HaShanah - The Link to "The Theme of The Bride"

(My remarks are interspersed and marked MJA:)

Pastor Bob wrote:
Throughout the series on "The Theme of The Bride" numerous references were noted to the "Feast of Trumpets", which is also known as "Rosh HaShanah".

The Feast has 12 names, themes, or idioms that collectively identify this Feast as the time of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture.

MJA: I now think the Feast of Trumpets will probably be the time of both the MID_TRIB RAPTURE, when God's two witnesses, Moses and Elijah, come to Earth, and the DAY OF GOD'S WRATH RAPTURE, when Moses and Elijah return to Heaven.

1. Teshuvah (repentance)
2. Rosh HaShanah (Head of the Year, Birthday of the World)
MJA: also the birthday of Jesus
3. Yom Teruah (the Day of the Awakening Blast - Feast of Tumpets)
4. Yom HaDin (the Day of Judgment)
5. HaMelech (the Coronation of the Messiah)
6. Yom HaZikkaron (the Day of Remembrance or memorial)
7. The time of Jacob's trouble (the birthpangs of the Messiah)
8. The opening of the gates
9. Kiddushin/Nesu'in (the wedding ceremony)
10. The resurrection of the dead (Rapture/Natzal)
11. The last trump (shofar)
12. Yom Hakesch (the hidden day)

Teshuvah is a special season, which in Hebrew means "to return or repent", and it begins on the first day of the month of Elul and continues for 40 days, ending with Yom Kippur. Thirty days into Teshuvah, on Tishrei 1, comes Rosh HaShanah. This begins a final ten-day period beginning on Rosh HaShanah and Yom Kippur. These are known as the High Holy Days and as the Awesome Days. The sabbath that falls within this ten-day period is called Shabbat Shuvah, the Sabbath of Return. Five days after Yom Kippur is Sukkot, the Feast of Tabernacles. Teshuvah begins on Elul 1 (our month of August/September), and concludes on Tishrei 10, Yom Kippur. Each morning during the 30 days of the month of Elul, the trumpet or ram's horn is blown to warn the people to repent and return to God.

Teshuvah (repentance) speaks to all people. Those who believe in the Messiah are called to examine their lives and see where they have departed from God. It is a call to examine the Scriptures and the evidence that the Messiah was who He said He was.

God has always had a heart to warn people before He proclaims judgment. He does not want anyone to receive the wrath of His judgment -(Ezekiel 18:21-23; Zephaniah 2:1-3; 33:1-7; 2nd Peter 3:9). I have noted several times in previous posts that the theme of "Deliverance" precedes "Judgment" nearly 200 times in the Bible.

The whole month of Elul is a 30-day process of preparation through personal examination and repentance for the coming High Holy Days. The shofar is blown after each morning service. Psalm 27, which begins with "The Lord is my light and my salvation," is also recited at the end of the morning and evening liturgy. The message from Elul 1 to Rosh HaShanah is clear: Repent before Rosh HaShanah. Don't wait until after Rosh HaShanah, or you will find yourself in the Days of Awe.

There are many idioms or phrases that help us identify the days in the season of Teshuvah (repentance). Just as unfamiliar foreigners might be confused when they hear Americans call Thanksgiving Day "Turkey Day" or "Pilgrims' Day", non-Jewish believers in Christ Jesus can be confused by the different terms for the major Feasts of the Lord.

Rosh HaShanah marks the Jewish New Year and is a part of the season of repentance. Rosh means "chief or head" and "shanah" means "year". Rosh HaShanah is the head of the year on the Hebrew civil calendar, and is also known as the birthday of the world since the world was created on this day.

Jewish tradition believes that Adam was created on this day. How did they decide that this was the day of the year the world was created? Because the first words of the book of Genesis, "In the beginning", when changed around, reads, "Aleph b'Tishrei, or "on the first day of Tishrei". Therefore, Rosh HaShanah is known as the birthday of the world, for tradition tells us that the world was created then.

Note: There are four new years in the Jewish calendar. Nisan 1 is the New Year's Day of kings (the date for determining how many years a king has ruled) and for months (Nisan is the first month). Elul 1 is the new year for the tithing of animals. Shevat 15 is the new year for the trees, and Tishrei 1 is the new year of years. It also marks the anniversary of the creation of the world.

Rosh HaShanah is observed for two days. It comes on the first and second days of the Hebrew month of Tishrei (usually in September/October), which is the first month of the Biblical civil calendar. The month of Tishrei is the seventh month in the Biblical religious calendar. This may seem strange that Rosh HaShanah, the New Year, is on the first and second day of Tishrei, the seventh month on the Biblical religious calendar. The reason that Rosh HaShanah, is the seventh month in the Biblical religious calendar is that God made the month of Nisan the first month of the year in remembrance of Israel's divine liberation from Egypt -(Exodus 12:2; 13:4). However, according to tradition, the world was created on Tishrei 1, or more exactly, Adam and Eve were created on the first day of Tishrei and it is from Tishrei that the annual cycle began. Hence, Rosh HaShanah is celebrated at this time.

Unlike other festivals that are celebrated in the Diaspora (the dispersion, referring to Jew who live outside the Holy Land of Israel). Rosh HaShanah is celebrated for two days because of uncertainty about observing the festivals on the correct calendar day. Rosh HaShanah is the only holiday celebrated for two days in Israel. As with all other festivals, the uncertainty was involved in a calendar that depended on when the new moon was determined, designing the beginning of each month by the rabbinical court in Jerusalem in ancient times. The problem of Rosh HaShanah is heightened by the fact that it falls on Rosh Chodesh, the new moon itself. Therefore, even in Jerusalem, it would have been difficult to let everyone know in time that the New Year had begun. To solve this problem, a two-day Rosh HaShanah was practiced even in Israel. Creating a two-day Rosh HaShanah was also intended to strengthen observance of each day; in the rabbinic view, and the two days are regarded as a one-long-day.

MJA: Tishri 1 is the main day in the year when no one knows the day or hour.

In Psalm 98:6 it is written, "With trumpets and sound of the horn shout joyfully before the King, the Lord". The blessing we receive from God when we understand the meaning of Rosh HaShanah and the blowing of the trumpet (shofar) is found in Psalm 89:15, as it is written, "How blessed are the people who know the joyful..."

Rosh HaShanah is referred to in the Torah as Yom Teruah, the Day of the Sounding of the Shofar (or the Day of the Awakening Blast). On Yom Teruah, the Day of the Sounding of the Shofar, it is imperative for every person to hear the shofar. The mitvah (or Biblical commandment found in John 14:15 is to hear the shofar being blown, not actually blow it yourself, hence the blessing, "to hear the sound of the shofar."

Teruah means "an awakening blast". A theme associated with Rosh HaShanah is the theme "to awake". Teruah is also translated as "shout". The book of Isaiah, chapter 12, puts the shouting in the context of the thousand-year reign of Messiah. The Messianic era and shout is mentioned in Isaiah 42:11; 44:23; Jeremiah 31:7; and Zephaniah 3:14. The first coming of Jesus Christ is associated with a shout in Zechariah 9:9. The ultimate shout is the Rapture in First Thessalonians 4:16-17.

MJA: The First-Trump Rapture is in I Thess. 4:13-18. The Last-Trump Rapture is in I Cor. 15:51-54. I think the first will be Mid-Trib, and the last will be on the Day of God's Wrath.

Whether it is by the blast of a shofar or by the force of a supernatural shout, God's goal is to awaken us! For this reason it is written, "Awake, sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ's will shine on you." -(Ephesians 5:14). The book of Ephesians has many references to Rosh HaShanah and the High Holy Days. For example, in Ephesians 4:30, being sealed unto the day of redemption refers to Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. God gave this festival to teach us that we will be judged on Rosh HaShanah and will be sealed unto the closing of the gates on Yom Kippur.

Isaiah 26:19 speaks of the resurrection. The word "awake" is associated with the resurrection, as it is written, "Your dead will live; their corpse will rise. You will lie in the dust, awake and shout for joy, for your dew is as the dew of the dawn, and the earth will give birth to the departed spirits" -(Isaiah 26:19).

MJA: Isa 26:20 says, "Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation (zaam, froth at the mouth fury) be overpast."

MJA: That seems to be the Last-Trump Rapture, on the Day of God's Wrath.

The theme of awakening from sleep is used throughout the Bible. It is found in John 11:11; Romans 13:11; Daniel 12:1-2; and Psalm 78:65. In Isaiah 51:9 it is written, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the Lord, awake as in the days of old, the generations of long age..." The arm of the Lord is used as a term for the Messiah in Isaiah 53:1. The word "arm" is the Hebrew word "zeroah". During the Passover, a shankbone, known as the "zeroah", is put on the plate. So "awake" is a term or idiom for Rosh HaShanah. In Isaiah 51:9 quoted earlier, the awakening is associated with the coming of the Messiah.

The "shofar" is the physical instrument that God instructed us to hear ("shema") the sound of the shofar teaching us to awake from spiritual slumber -(1 Corinthians 14:46). In the days of old, the shofar was used on very solemn occasions. We first find the shofar mentioned in connection with the revelation on Mount Sinai when the voice of the shofar was exceedingly strong and all the people who were there in the camp trembled -(Exodus19:16). Thus, the shofar we hear on Rosh HaShanah ought to also serve as a battle cry to wage war against our inner enemy - our evil inclinations and passions as well as the devil, Ha Satan, himself. The shofar was also sounded on the Jubilee Year, heralding the freedom from slavery as recorded in Leviticus 25:9-10. Spiritually this refers to freedom from the slavery of sin, the desires of this world, and serving the devil -(Romans 6:12-13; James 4:4).

Another reason for sounding the shofar is that Rosh HaShanah is the celebration of the birth of creation and when God began to rule over the world on this day. When a king begins to reign, he is heralded with trumpets. That is why Psalm 47 precedes the blowing of the shofar; it is a call to nations: " ... Sing praises to our King, sing praises. For God is the King of all the earth..." -(Psalm 47:6-7). It also precedes because of the reference to the shofar in the previous verse Psalm 47:5, as it is written, "God has ascended with a shout, the Lord, with the sound of a trumpet".

MJA: Psa 47:5-7 says, "God is gone up with a shout, the LORD with the sound of a trumpet. 6 Sing praises to God, sing praises: sing praises unto our King, sing praises. 7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding."

MJA: That is the LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, because it is when "God is the King of all the earth."

In Jewish tradition, many reasons have been offered for the sounding of the shofar: The ram's horn is identified with the ram that became the substitute sacrifice for Isaac in Genesis 22:1-19. The giving of the Torah at Mount Sinai was accompanied by the sounding of the shofar in Exodus 19:19. The proclamation of the Jubilee was heralded by the blast of the shofar in Leviticus 25:9-11; and the commencement of the Messianic age is to be announced by the sound of the great shofar noted in Isaiah 27:13. The book 'Gates of Repentance' cites Maimonide's call to awaken from spiritual slumber.

When the rabbis saw the phrase "Awake, O Israel", they would immediately identify those verses with something concerning Rosh HaShanah. The blowing of the shofar took place at the Temple on Rosh HaShanah, which is confirmed by Nehemiah 8:1-3.

The shofar was also blown at the Temple to begin the Sabbath each week. There are two types of trumpets used in the Bible:

1. The silver trumpet
2. The shofar, or ram's horn

On the Sabbath, there was within the Temple a sign on the wall that said, "To the house of the blowing of the trumpet." Each Sabbath, two men with silver trumpets and a man with a shofar made three trumpet blasts twice during the day. On Rosh HaShanah, it is different. The shofar is the primary trumpet. On Rosh HaShanah, a shofar delivers the first blast, a silver trumpet, the second, and then a shofar, the third blast. The silver trumpets and the gathering at the Temple are specified in the book of Numbers, chapter 10.

MJA: There were two trumpets because there are two Raptures. Num 10:1-4 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps. 3 And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee."

MJA: One trumpet sounds when the 24 elders are seated on 24 thrones Mid-Trib. Rev 4:1-4 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was (lit., became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper (last stone in the breastplate) and a sardine stone (first stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is the first and the last): and there was a rainbow (i.e., Saturn's rings) round about the throne (Saturn, the 3rd Heaven), in sight like unto an emerald (Judah's stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah). 4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold."

MJA: There are two Raptures. One silver trumpet sounds when the saints are caught up Mid-Trib (I Thess 4:13-18). Both silver trumpets sound when the saints out of the Great Tribulation are caught up (I Cor 15:51-54).

According to Leviticus 23:24 and Numbers 29:1, Rosh HaShanah is the day of the blowing of the trumpets. According to the Mishna, the trumpet used for this purpose is the ram's horn, not trumpets made of metal as recorded in Numbers 10.

The shofar or ram's horn, has always held a prominent role in the history of God's people in the Bible:

1. The Torah was given to Israel with the sound of the shofar in Exodus 19:19.
2. Israel conquered in the battle of Jericho with the blast of the shofar in Joshua 6:20.
3. Israel will be advised of the advent of the Messiah with the sound of the shofar in Zechariah 9:14,16.
4. The shofar will be blown at the time of the ingathering of the exiles of Israel to their place in Isaiah 27:13.
5. The shofar was blown to signal the assembly of the Israelites during war in Judges 3:27; 2nd Samuel 20:1.
6. The watchman who stood upon Jerusalem's walls blew the shofar in Ezekiel 33:3-6.
7. The shofar was blown at the start of the Jubilee year in Leviticus 25:9.
8. The shofar is a reminder that God is sovereign in Psalm 47:5.
9. The ram's horn, the shofar, is a reminder of Abraham's sacrifice of Isaac and God's provision of a ram as a substitute in Genesis 22:13.
10.The shofar was blown to announce the beginning of festivals in Numbers 10:10.
11.The blowing of the shofar is a signal for the call to repentance in Isaiah 58:1.
12.The blowing of the shofar ushers in the day of the Lord in Joel 2:1.
MJA: That is also the Day of God's Wrath, and the Last-Trump Rapture.
13.The blowing of the shofar is sounded at the Rapture of the believers and the resurrection of the dead in 1st Thessalonians 4:16.

MJA: I Thess 4:13-18 is the first trump Rapture. The trumpet is also sounded at the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor. 15:51-54.

14.John was taken up to Heaven in the book of Revelation by the sound of the shofar in Revelation 4:1.
15.Seven shofarim are sounded when God judges the earth during the Tribulation in Revelation 8-9.
16.The shofar was used for the coronation of kings - 1st Kings 1:34,39.
17.The shofar was blown to celebrate the new moon on Rosh HaShanah in Psalm 81:1-3.

Another name for Rosh HaShanah is Yom HaDin, the Day of Judgment. It was on this day,God would sit in court and all men would pass before Him to be judged. Three great books will be opened as each man is weighed in the balance and placed into one of three categories according to rabbinical sources. It has been taught that the school of Shammai says that there will be three classes on the final Day of Judgment, one of the wholly righteous, one of the wholly wicked, and one of the intermediates. The wholly righteous are at once inscribed and sealed for life in the world to come. The wholly wicked are at once inscribed and sealed for perdition.

The righteous are separated and will be with God. This is known to Bible believers as the Rapture, which in Hebrew, is the "Natazal". The wicked will face the wrath of God during the Tribulation period, known in Hebrew as the "Chevlai shel Mashiach", and will never repent.

MJA: The Wrath of God will hit Babylon on one day, not all through the 7 years. The asteroid Wormwood will hit Babylon in an instant.

MJA: Rev 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."
Cont'd on Pro and Con 1811

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