Pro and Con 1966

Posted 3-7-17


> > BG Ellis; (VIDEO) 70 Weeks of Daniel and the Hebrew year 5777! He appears before June 7, 2017! - YouTube

Thanks. Wed. June 7, 1967 (Iyar 28, 5727) plus 49 years equals Wed. June 7, 2017 (13 Sivan, 5777).

They took the Temple Mount on June 7, 1967, and we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit.

I am hoping for the First-Trump Rapture on Pentecost Sunday, June 4, 2017. That will be before June 7. Agape


Andrea; (URL) Pastor John Hagee Shares 900-Year-Old Extra-Biblical Prophecy Predicting Messiah Will Come in 2017

"A prophetic statement by Rabbi Ben Samuel....

"Prophecy given 900 years ago: Ottoman Empire would rule 8 Jubilees (8x50=400). Came true: 1517-1917 to the day.

"Prophecy said Israel would become a no-man's land for one Jubilee. Came true 1917-1967.

"Final part of prophecy: Messiah will come in the next #Jubilee: 1967 + 50 = 2017" I am hoping for the First-Trump Rapture Sun. June 4, 2017, Pentecost. Agape


Mat_24:14 says, "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

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INCOMING EMAIL, RE: I think Pope Francis is Antichrist.

do you have any support for that belief other than Obama cannot be the President of the World?


Pope Francis, the 266th Pope, the first Jesuit Pope, has blasphemed God and Christ. He has given the wrong information about how to be saved.

I'm not the only one that thinks this. A quick search on Google will turn up things like the following:

BLASPHEMY! "Pope" Francis claims Jesus had to "Beg Forgiveness" of Mary and Joseph!

"Francis said that God redeems everyone--not just Christians, but athiests as well.


The Pope wrote: "The question for those who do not believe in God is to follow their own conscience. Sin, even for a non-believer, is when one goes against one's conscience."

That will not work.

Rom 10:9-13 (KJV) says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Joh 3:16 says, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."


This is the scripture that woke me up that the Rapture was Mid-Trib.

Rev 13:1-11 says, "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads (i.e., Babel, Babylon II, Medo-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Holy Roman Empire, and Babylon III) and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy (i.e., Pontifex Maximus). 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (i.e., Greece, Dan 7:6), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (i.e., Medo-Persia, Dan 7:5), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon, Dan 7:4): and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and BLASPHEMIES; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., during the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise-virgin saints caught up just before the False Prophet comes to power Mid-Trib). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish-virgins left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld ANOTHER BEAST (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns (i.e., two comings to power, in Judas Iscariot and the False Prophet) like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."


Rev 17:3-5 says, "So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, HAVING SEVEN HEADS AND TEN HORNS. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

Rev 17:9-12 says, "And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. (i.e., Rome has seven mountains) 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is (i.e., Antichrist), and the other (i.e., the False Prophet) is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation). 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast."

Pope Francis said, "I ask all Jesuits to pray for me and to entrust me to the loving protection of the Virgin Mary, our Mother in heaven, while as a sign of God's abundant graces, I give you the Apostolic Blessing with special affection, which I also extend to all those who cooperate with the Society of Jesus in her activities, those who benefit from her good deeds and participate in her spirituality."

Isn't it strange that he didn't mention Christ?

"Further, consider the facts that the Pope takes the title of "Vicar of Christ," allows people to call him "Holy Father," and accepts worship of himself. His title, his name and his acceptance of worship constitute blasphemy."

Mat_23:9 says, "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."

Let's keep watching.

1Jn 4:2,3 says, "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." Agape


...I found your email very interesting. I have long believed that the Lord would be coming back on a feast day or at least what we consider the Rapture to be would be on a feast day probably the Feast of trumpets, but the jury is still out on that as I say. I am curious as to where you got your information regarding the name of the planet.

I have also believed that the planet we're living on was not in the state that it was when God formed it originally. A reading of Genesis particularly the first chapter in the Hebrew text notes that the world was devastated and destroyed. Most people in churches just do not understand this. But it has to be a recreation because God doesn't create anything without it having substance. Without form and void which actually means devastated destroyed. I am considering the belief that when there was war in heaven that this Earth and as it was at that time was totally destroyed. and God recreated it and put man here.

Also, could you give me some references for your belief that they're going to be three raptures. I know that is possible, and I believe there is some substantiation for this in the Bible, that there's going to be more than one Rapture so to speak.

Please I'm think I'm being critical I'm just trying to understand the basis for your beliefs I'm always looking for additional revelation.

God bless you.


> > I am curious as to where you got your information regarding the name of the planet.

It's in the Bible. It is interesting to look up this subject in several translations. More comes clear that way.


Psa 89:8-11 (KJV) says, "O LORD God of hosts, who is a strong LORD like unto thee? or to thy faithfulness round about thee? Thou rulest the raging of the sea: when the waves thereof arise, thou stillest them. Thou hast BROKEN RAHAB IN PIECES, as one that is slain; thou hast scattered thine enemies with thy strong arm. The heavens are thine, the earth also is thine".

Isa_37:16 (KJV) says, "O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims (i.e., on Saturn, between Jupiter and Uranus), thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth."

Isa 51:9-16 (NEB) says, "Awake, awake, put on your strength, O arm of the LORD, awake as you did long ago, in days gone by, Was it not you who (1) hacked (chatsab, split) the RAHAB in pieces and (2) ran the dragon (i.e., Satan) through? Was it not you who (3) dried up the sea, the waters of the great abyss...the LORD of Hosts is my name. I CLEFT THE SEA AND ITS WAVES ROARED, THAT I MIGHT FIX THE HEAVENS IN PLACE AND FORM THE EARTH."

The third heaven Paul was caught up to in 2Cor 12:2-4 was Saturn, Paradise, where we are headed.

2Co 12:2-4 (KJV) says, "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Ezekiel saw the throne of Jesus on the amber planet Saturn that has a ring system around it.

Eze 1:1 (KJV) says, "the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God."

Verses 26-28 (KJV) say, "And above the firmament that was over their heads (i.e., farther out in space than the four terrestrial planets of which one was Earth, v. 15) was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (i.e., Jesus, the only God/man) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber (i.e., Saturn is amber), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about (i.e., Saturn's ring system looks like a rainbow). This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."

Sapphire, the September birthstone of Jesus, means both heaven and dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani (Saturn) and priya (dear). This is why the Lord was seated on a pavement of sapphire on Mt. Sinai.

Exo_24:10 (KJV) says, "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness."

Isa 51:9 (NASB) says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?"

Job 26:7-12 (KJV) says, "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. 8 He bindeth up the waters in his thick clouds (i.e., Saturn has thick clouds); and the cloud is not rent under them. 9 He holdeth back the face of his throne, and spreadeth his cloud upon it. 10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end. 11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof. 12 HE DIVIDETH THE SEA (i.e., he dug the Moon material out of our Pacific Basin) with his power, and by his understanding he smiteth through the proud (Heb. RAHAB, i.e., Satan's planet, now our Asteroid Belt)."

Job 26:12 (NASB) says, "He quieted the sea with His power, And by His understanding He shattered Rahab."

Job 38:8-11 (KJV) says, "who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? 9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, 10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, 11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?"

Psa 74:12-17 (CONF) says, "O God, my king from of old, you doer of saving deeds on earth. YOU STIRRED UP THE SEA BY YOUR MIGHT; YOU SMASHED THE HEADS OF THE DRAGONS IN THE WATERS."

Psa 104:1-9,30 (KJV) says, "Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain (i.e., the Tabernacle's 10-width curtain stood for the 10 original planets): Who layeth the beams of his chambers (i.e., on Saturn, our 3rd heaven) in the waters (i.e., the 'sea of glass', the ice crystal rings): who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind...Who laid the foundations of THE EARTH, that it should not be removed for ever. THOU COVEREDST IT WITH THE DEEP AS WITH A GARMENT: THE WATERS STOOD ABOVE THE MOUNTAINS. AT THY REBUKE THEY FLED; AT THE VOICE OF THY THUNDER THEY HASTED AWAY. They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto THE PLACE (i.e., the Pacific Basin) WHICH THOU HAST FOUNDED FOR THEM. Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth....THOU RENEWEST THE FACE OF THE EARTH."

Jer 31:35 (KJV) says, "Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, WHICH DIVIDETH THE SEA when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name".


The planet was solid, because diamond-bearing carbonaceous asteroids appear as the debris of its destruction. Carbonaceous asteroids are the most common variety, around 75% of all known asteroids.


Gen 2:5 (KJV) says, "And every plant OF THE FIELD BEFORE IT was in the earth, and EVERY HERB OF THE FIELD BEFORE IT GREW".

> > Also, could you give me some references for your belief that they're going to be three raptures. I know that is possible, and I believe there is some substantiation for this in the Bible, that there's going to be more than one Rapture so to speak.

The first Rapture was of the OT saints on Firstfruits in 30 AD. The second Rapture is Mid-Trib, when the archangel Michael is heard.

ITh 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the ARCHANGEL, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The third Rapture is in ICor 15:51-54. That is when we get our immortal bodies after the Great Tribulation.

ICor 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Rev 12:6-10 says, "And the woman (i.e., Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (arti, just now, i.e., Mid-Trib) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the Mid-Trib Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night." Agape


Stacey Kowalewski (12 Feb 2017)
"Reply to Gino about the Judgement seat of Christ"

"Where and when is the judgment seat of Christ?"

Exactly where and when is the judgment seat of Christ?

I Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every mans work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every mans work of what sort it is.
14 If any mans work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any mans work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

II Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Hi Gino,

In response to your question, the judgment seat of Christ is the throne which He is seated on. Where is it? It is in heaven, many passages tell us that Jesus is seated on His throne at the right hand of the Father in heaven. When do we appear before the throne of Christ (AKA the judgment seat)? When we are resurrected from the dead.



> > " the judgment seat of Christ?"

I am assuming that the judgment seat of Christ is the throne of Christ. His throne is located on Saturn, which is marked by magnificent rings.

In Eze 1:1, Ezekiel said, "the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God."

Looking up, Ezekiel saw the Sun with the four terrestrial planets orbiting it. One is the Earth. All four are flying globes, face all four directions, and orbit in all four directions. Their concentric orbits look like wheels within wheels.

Eze 1:15 says, "Now as I beheld the living (i.e., lively flying) creatures (i.e., creations), behold one wheel (ophan, revolve, i.e., orbit) upon the EARTH by the living creatures (i.e., Mercury, Venus and Mars), with his four faces."

Earth is a globe that not only faces all four directions, it orbits in all four directions.

Eze 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament (i.e., expanse of space) that was over their heads (i.e., farther out in space than the terrestrial planets) was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a SAPPHIRE stone (i.e., sapphire means dear to the planet heaven from the Sanskrit Sani [Saturn] and priya [dear]; the sapphire is the September birthstone of Jesus and means HEAVEN): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (i.e., Jesus, the only God/man) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber (i.e., Saturn is amber), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (i.e., from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness (i.e., Saturns ring system) round about. 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."

Isa_66:1 says, "Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool".

Rev_15:2-8 says, "And I saw as it were a sea of glass (hualinos, transparent, i.e., ice) mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass (i.e., on Saturn's rings), having the harps of God. 3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. 4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy JUDGMENTS are made manifest. 5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven (i.e., Saturn) was opened: 6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles. 7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. 8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled."

> > when is the judgment seat of Christ?

At the end of this age. Agape


> > F.M. Riley (12 Feb 2017)
"The Eighty Year Warning"...

> > 2017 is the year when this present Dispensation of Grace will end with the return of Christ to resurrect and rapture His Church and all true New Covenant believers to glory, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. The love and longing for Christ, in the hearts and minds of all true believers, will finally burst into glorious reality as we see and hear the Savior calling for us to "Come up hither," Revelaton 4:1. Just as Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 15:49-57, when the rapture occurs, we who are true believers, will finally have "victory" over the flesh, the world, the devil, and death. Glory to God! Praise the Lord! Hallelujah! Thank you Jesus!
2017 is the year when the terrible judgment of the seven year Tribulation will begin.

> > It appears to me that the world wide earthquake described by young Joe Brandt, age 17, at the time he had these dreams, will likely occur during this present year of 2017. If so, then truly the Lord God gave to mankind an eighty year warning of events to be fulfilled this very year.

Dear readers, are you ready? Really ready, for what is coming this very year?


Yes! I am ready. It is a good thing, because I live in Riverside, CA. within sight of Big Bear. It and the San Andreas Fault are east of me. We feel earthquakes from time to time. The rest of the house is not cracked, but my computer room has several bad cracks. The driveway and street in front of the house are cracked. The street is mounded up. Surely, it would have been flat when the blacktop was first applied. This hill seems to still be rising.

I lived in Yorba Linda before I moved here, and felt the Northridge earthquake. Our patio slab and sidewalk cracked that time.

I am hoping for the Rapture on Pentecost Sunday, June 4, 2017. Agape

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