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POOR Mr. Caps! Ms. Marilyn is STUBBORN! WHAT A shame! Maybe it TIME for Ms. Marilyn to CHANGE the very characteristic that GOT HER THIS FAR! Poor God is SO incapable of OPENING our minds/eyes, so it is WONDERFUL that a loving brother can find time to YELL at her!

It's sort of like I was with my teenagers. But I finally learned that YELLING did NOTHING to improve their HEARING.

But NOW I see all of the Friends of Marilyn [FOM?] coming to her rescue. It reminds me of the time that David was FLEEING from his son, and a Friend of Saul caught them in a valley and began THROWING ROCKS and CURSING. One of David's Aides suggested he GO OVER and CUT OFF HIS HEAD! David's answer was - NO! Perhaps, God will HEAR HIM and turn his cursing into a Blessing [paraphrased - but that was the POINT].

These LITTLE TESTS help us build PATIENCE! WOW - I sure HOPE SO! HA! Love

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...My position...Crucifixion was on afternoon of 14th, a Thursday, 30 CE...meal eaten, as Jews still do today, after dusk as the 15th began.

This is also the sequence in Exodus--it was also on a Thursday, I think (based on Rabbinic sources), 14th, and meal eaten on 15th.

I am well aware of your position but do not think it will stand. Yeshua's meal, was not the official Pesach--no leavened bread, no women present, etc. He said he desired to eat Pesach with them but would not (Lk 22: KJV has "again" but this is scribal addition) until fulfilled in the kingdom.

The best book on this of which I am aware is by Paul Finch. You can contact him via e-mail, use my name, get his book... pfinch@chicago.ess.harris.com

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> Crucifixion was on afternoon of 14th, a Thursday, 30 CE...meal eaten, as
> Jews still do today, after dusk as the 15th began.

The Thursday, 30 CE crucifixion agrees with what I think. Eating the Passover meal on the 15th agrees with what CAPS thinks. Jews today also list Pesach/Passover as the 15th on their calendar, but the Bible says it is the 14th.

Lev. 23:5,6: "in the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread." There are first 12 hours of night and then 12 hours of day for Nisan 14. Next came the 12 hours of night then 12 hours of day for Nisan 15. The second Passover is on "the fourteenth day of the second month at even" (Nu. 9:11).

John 19:14-16 says, "it was the preparation of the passover...Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified." Since the Passover is the 14th, the preparation of the Passover is on Nisan 13.

Mark 14:2 says, "NOT on the feast day." John 18:28 says, "They...went not into the judgment hall...that they might eat the PASSOVER."

Nisan 13 (night)(day) = Thursday, Preparation of the Passover
Nisan 14 (night)(day) = Friday, Feast of Passover
Nisan 15 (night)(day) = Saturday, Feast of Unleavened Bread
Nisan 16 (night)(day) = Sunday, Feast of Firstfruits

The "Tractate Sanhedrin" in the Babylonian Talmud says, "On the Eve of Passover Yeshu was hanged" (Sanhedrin 43a GBT VII. pg.181; SBT. pg.281). This agrees with the Bible. Since Passover was the 14th, and the Crucifixion was on the Eve of Passover, it seems to me that it had to be on the 13th.

The Crucifixion was on the day preceding the Passover. The Passover lambs were killed between 3:00 and 5:00 PM at the Temple so they could be roasted and ready to be eaten as soon as the Passover (Nisan 14) began. It began with night, at 6:00 PM. In Egypt, the death of the firstborn came in that night at midnight. If Jesus died on the 13th, and if they ate the Passover on the 15th, it would destroy the typology of the Passover. There would be one whole date (24 hours, 12 of night, then 12 of day) between the Crucifixion on the 13th and the eating of the Passover lamb on the 15th.

If the Crucifixion was on the 13th and the Passover was eaten as the 14th began, there would be no day skipped and the typology would be preserved.

> This is also the sequence in Exodus--it was also on a Thursday, I
> think (based on Rabbinic sources), 14th, and meal eaten on 15th.

That is interesting. I did not realize that the Exodus was also on Thursday. It makes sense though. That is the way God works. If they left Egypt on the 14th (which I agree with) and ate the meal on the 15th, what protected them from death at midnight on the 14th?

> I am well aware of your position but do not think it will stand. Yeshua's
> meal, was not the official Pesach--no leavened bread, no women present,
> etc. He said he desired to eat Pesach with them but would not (Lk 22: KJV
> has "again" but this is scribal addition) until fulfilled in the kingdom.

I agree that the Last Supper was not the official Pesach meal for Jesus was to die just before that meal was to be eaten. Lu. 22:15,16 says, "With desire I have desired to eat THIS PASSOVER with you BEFORE I suffer: For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled..."

"THIS PASSOVER" may indicate the Essene Passover. As can be seen from Qumran writings, the Essenes had a disagreement with the Pharisees and Sadducees over which day the Passover was to be celebrated on. It seems that Pesach was celebrated a day earlier by the Essenes than by the Pharisees and Sadducees. This is discussed on this URL:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/3682/passover.html
> The best book on this of which I am aware is by Paul Finch. You can
> contact him via e-mail, use my name, get his book...

I cannot afford a book. Does anyone out there happen to have this book that I could borrow?

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> In the parable of the wedding & 10 virgins, I've never heard it stated but the fact that
> there was a wedding ceremony at all Requires that "invitations" (with time & date) be
> sent out sometime prior to the wedding ceremonmy to allow the inviteed to prepare....

> THE RAPTURE
> One of the commonly overlooked points concerning the rapture is that it has
> two components: The resurrection of the dead, closely followed in time by the
> divine removal and being caught up in the air by those who are alive. If we
> desire to know what G-d will do in the future, all we need do is see what He
> did in past. Yeshua was raptured on the Feast of Firstfruits and the upcoming
> rapture will take place on same Feast day!!!

***From Marilyn: I hope you are right, but I have some doubts. I Cor. 15:22,23 says, "in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in HIS OWN ORDER (tagmati, rank): Christ the firstfruits; AFTERWARD they that are Christ's at his COMING."

***As a type, when could Christ be said to have COME after Firstfruits? He sent the "Spirit of Christ" to indwell the Church on Pentecost.

***Rom 8:9,10 says, "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." The Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ, and the Holy Spirit are all interchangeable terms. Since the Spirit of Christ came to the Church on Pentecost, don't you think it is possible that Christ will come to the Church again on Pentecost?

***Here's another thought. Some have said that it seems possible that the resurrection of dead saints might precede the catching up of the living saints by more time than it seems in reading I Thess. 4:13-18. Since the dead saints came out of their graves after Christ's resurrection, I could see the resurrection of dead saints preceding the Rapture and taking place on Firstfruits easier than I could see the whole Rapture event taking place on Firstfruits.

> NOTEWORTHY POINTS REGARDING THE FEAST OF FIRSTFRUITS: First, in this document using
> the menu "Find: or "Find word" command, look up and read through the section on the
> "SAROS". It is necessary as background material. Secondly in scripture: Noah et
> al, entered on Nisan 10 and were safely shut inside the ark on Nisan 16th. The
> flood began on the 17th day of the second month (Genesis 7:11).

***I think Noah loaded the Ark during the last seven days before he entered for the last time on Cheshvan 17. The door of the Ark was closed and the rain began that same day. This is easier to understand in the NIV than in the KJV.

> There was a one-month postponement (cf Numbers 9:10f) of the flood due to Noahs'
> mourning for his grandfather, Methuselah. The latter died in the year of the flood.

***Are you sure that Methuselah died exactly 30 days before the Flood? Gen. 5:27 tells us that he was 969, but it doesn't give the month of his death. Numbers 9:10 is talking about the second Passover, on Iyar 14. By that time, Nisan had been made the first month of the year. Before Sinai, the first month was Tishri.

> Thirdly; Pharaoh and his army pursued the Hebrews who were fleeing Egypt
> on Nisan 15th and 16th. The Egyptians were destroyed at daybreak (Ex. 14:27f)
> on Nisan 17th. If Pharaoh had not been killed by the third day, Moshe would
> have been legally obligated to take the Hebrews back. [Moshe' request, which
> Pharaoh finally granted, was to take a three-day journey to offer sacrifices
> to G-d (Ex. 3:18, 8:27 & 12:31]. The Hebrews escaped out of Egypt and through
> the Red Sea before dawn of the 3rd day, Nisan 17th.
> Fourthly: Joshua and the Hebrews were no longer given manna from shemayim on Nisan 16
> as they had now passed over the Jordan and entered The Promised Land (Joshua 5:12).
> Fifthly: Yeshua resurrected victorious over the power of death and
> entered shemayim by daybreak on Nisan 16.
> Supportive background information includes:
> PSALM 72: 5 HE WILL ENDURE AS LONG AS THE SUN, AS LONG AS THE MOON, THROUGH
> ALL GENERATIONS. 6 HE WILL BE LIKE RAIN FALLING ON A FIELD BEFORE BEING MOWN,

***What version says, "BEFORE being mown"? Green's Interlinear has, "He shall descend like rain on the mown grass." All flesh is as grass (I Peter 1:24).

> {MOWN AS IN A WHEAT HARVEST,,, A "HARVEST OF BELIEVERS!} LIKE SHOWERS WATERING THE
> EARTH. INTERPRETATION: RAIN IS THE HOLY SPIRIT, MOWN FIELD SYMBOLIZES A HARVEST THAT
> JUST HAPPENED, I.E. THE RAPTURE! RAIN (MIRACLES) BEFORE THE RAPTURE!!

***Green continues with Psa. 72:7, "In His days the righteous shall flourish, and plenty of peace." I think it is refering to the Millennium. Christ will return as the latter rain AFTER the seven trumpet judgments are cast on unbelievers. This is what mows them down.

> ...THE RAPTURE WILL OCCUR AT ASTRONOMICALLY LOCAL MIDNIGHT ON THE THE JEWISH HARVEST
> FESTIVAL OF FIRSTFRUITS- CALLED THE DAY OF RESURRECTION BY CHRISTIANS,,, 4/1-2/99.
> FIRSTFRUITS (Heb. reshith, bikkurim, Gr. aparche). In acknowledgment of the fact
> that all the products of the land came from God, and to show thankfulness for
> his goodness, Israelites brought as an offering a portion of the fruits that
> ripened first. These were looked on as a pledge of the coming harvest (The
> upcoming harvest after the rapture is the harvest of tribulation saints). Such
> an offering was made both on behalf of the nation (Lev 23:10, 17) and by
> individuals (Exod 23:19; Deut 26:1-11). These firstfruits went for the support
> of the priesthood. Yeshua is our (earthlings') ONLY priesthood-Intercessor to
> G-d; thus the fruits of the rapture belong to Him. Do not forget that at the
> rapture, Just as Yeshuas resurrection, the graces will open and yield their
> dead first, then we how are alive shall meet the L-rd in the air.
> Jesus is the firstfruits of all who die in faith (1 Cor 15:20). Believers, in
> turn, are "a kind of firstfruits" of all that God created (James 1:18)...

***Since we are "a KIND of firstfruits," do you think it is at all possible that we will be the "first of the firstfruits" (Ex. 23:19) of the wheat harvest on Pentecost? We are called wheat.

> The word rapture does appear in the bible as rapiere in the original Latin vulgate..
> circa 400 AD; harpazo in the Greek and Ha Natzal in Hebrew in the Tanakh (OT).
> THE SAROS
>
> Periodically both the sun and the moon return to the same position relative to
> one of the nodes, with the result that eclipses recur at regular intervals.
> {The pattern of seven eclipses of 1917, with the seventh occurring during
> General Allenbys liberation of Jerusalem will repeat itself on the 5th
> multiple of the Saros: 5 x 18 = 90. 90 + 1917 = 2007 / 2008.}

***I find this extremely interesting. Can you pinpoint when the eclipses will occur in 2007/2008? (Note: Maybe not. His email was returned as undeliverable.)

> The time of the interval, called the saros, is a little more than 6585.3 days or about
> 18 years, 9 to 11 days, depending on the number of intervening leap years, and 8
> hours. The saros, known since the time of ancient Babylonia, corresponds
> almost exactly to 19 returns of the sun to the same node, 242 returns of the
> moon to the same node, and 223 lunar months. The disparity between the number
> of returns of the moon and the number of lunar months is the result of the
> nodes moving westward at the rate of 19.5 per year. An eclipse that recurs
> after the saros will be a duplicate of the earlier eclipse but will be visible
> 120 farther west on the earth's surface, because of the rotation of the earth
> during the third of a day included in the interval. Lunar eclipses recur 48 or
> 49 times and solar eclipses 68 to 75 times before slight differences in the
> motions of the sun and moon eliminate the eclipse.
> During one saros about 70 eclipses take place, usually 29 lunar and 41 solar;
> of the latter, usually 10 are total and 31 partial. The minimum number of
> eclipses that can occur in a given saros year is 2, the maximum 7, and the
> average is 4.
> During the 20th century 375 eclipses have taken or will take place: 228 solar
> and 147 lunar. The last total eclipse of the sun visible in the United States
> in this century occurred over the state of Hawaii on July 11, 1991. The prior
> such eclipse occurred over the state of Washington on February 26, 1979. The
> next total eclipse will be visible from the U.S. in 2017....

***The chart arrived all jumbled. The following seems to be the important part.

> Exodus, escape from evil-----The rapture, deliverance from the wrath of G-d.

> Yeshua did share a last supper with the Talmudim but it was not the Passover
> as we see from : Mark 15:" 6 Now during a festival, Pilate used to set free
> one prisoner, whomever the crowd requested....
> And Mattiyahu 27:21," 15 It was the governor's custom during a
> festival to set free one prisoner, whomever the crowd asked for. 16 There was
> at that time a notorious prisoner being held, named Yeshua Bar-Abba.

***I think it is interesting that they had to decide which Yeshua, or which Jesus, they would choose. It probably goes much deeper than that too. Bar-Abba means "son of the father." Who is this rebel and murderer likely to represent?

> 17 So when a crowd had gathered, Pilate said to them, "Whom do you want me to set free
> for you? Bar-Abba? or Yeshua, called 'the Messiah'?"...24 When Pilate saw that he was
> accomplishing nothing...he took water, washed his hands in front of the crowd, and said,
> "My hands are clean of this man's blood; it's your responsibility."...John 18: 28 Then the
> Jews led Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman governor. By now it was early
> morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness the Jews did not enter the palace; they
> wanted to be able to eat the Passover" And Yochanan 18:39. ""I don't find any case
> against him. 39 However, you have a custom that at Passover I set one prisoner free. Do
> you want me to set free for you the 'king of the Jews'?" 40 But they yelled back, "No,
> not this man but Bar-Abba!" (Bar-Abba was a revolutionary.)" Yeshua was already in
> custody PRIOR to The Passover! Yeshua healed and did many miracles on the Shabbat as a
> type, foreshadow and similitude of what G-d, Abba would also do on the Sabbath to him,
> Also Yeshua was raised on The Sabbath as reminded by Luke 6:, "The Son of Man is
> L-RD of the Sabbath."

I think Jesus arose in the night portion of the first day of the week.

> The following calculations (several paragraphs below) are based on
> scripture and calculated using an ultra advanced Math software program
> developed for NASA called MATHCAD and a "canned" program using ephemeris time
> for the new and full moons. The use of ephermis time eliminates the slight
> inaccuracies introduced by employing sidereal or solar time. The scriptural
> assessments are accurate as are the calculations extremely precise!
> As far as Yeshua having his Passover feast, it will not be a mere earthly
> meal after having accomplished all his earthly sacrifices, he is too great as
> were his sacrifices too great for a mere earthly meal; rather it will be the
> Wedding banquet described in Revelations when his earthly bride is raptured!

***I think the Marriage of the Lamb and the Marriage Supper of the Lamb will take place on the Feast of Trumpets that is also Coronation Day and the first day of the Millennium....

> CONSIDER THE TIME OF DEATH OF YESHUA. WE KNOW THAT IT MUST FOLLOW THE PATTERN SET
> FORTH IN THE ACCOUNT OF PASSOVER EXODUS. SAME NIGHT I WILL PASS OVER.
> LET'S EXAMINE THE DAY FOR THE PHASES OF THE MOON...

(Note: His chart came in jumbled with no identifying colors showing, but I'm pretty sure it has Apr. 6/7 for the Full moon in 30 AD.)

> The above pattern suggests that the year 30 A.D. {March 22nd was a
> Friday, April 6th was a Saturday} may have been an intercalary year of 13
> months. Recall the Biblical significance of the # 13.
>
> YESHUA WAS CRUCIFIED ON WEDNESDAY APRIL 3, 30 A.D. (NISAN 13 REMEMBER THE # 13 AND
> ITS MEANING, SEE ALSO PURIM 13TH DAY OF MONTH). THURSDAY NISAN 14 WAS THE FEAST OF
> PASSOVER. OUR L-RD AROSE JUST BEFORE TWILIGHT ON SATURDAY NISAN 16 (April 6th 30 A.D.).

***I think Yeshua/Jesus was crucified on Thursday, Nisan 13, and arose in the night portion of Sunday, Nisan 16, in 30 AD.

> Strongly consider when the women...arrived at the tomb site. It was early Sunday morning,
> meaning that Yeshua arose prior to that time, while it was still dark before dawn...HE
> WAS ARISEN ON SATURDAY, AT THE END OF 3 (three) COMPLETE 24 HOUR PERIODS.

***Remember that 12 hours of the night preceded 12 hours of day. I think the three day and three nights were Thursday (day), Friday (night then day), Saturday (night then day), and Sunday (night). The three days "since" were Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

> RESURRECTION WEEK WAS NISAN 10-16 SUNDAY EVENING ON NISAN 10 TO SAT. EVE NISAN 16.
> AT 3:00 PM ON PASSOVER, THE SANHEDREN WAS COMPLETING THEIR ULTIMATE,
> FINAL HYPOCRISY BY SACRIFICING THEIR PASSOVER LAMB WHILE YESHUA EXPIRED.
> YESHUA PROBABLY BEGAN HIS MINISTRY 1000 DAYS PRIOR TO NISAN 13, 4810 ON
> SIVAN 6, 4807 (SHAVOUT-THE FEAST OF WEEKS-- PENTECOST, 2.76 YEARS EARLIER).

***Why 2.76 years earlier? seeing that there were four Passovers of his ministry.

> INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, SIVAN 6, WAS THE DAY UPON WHICH MOSES BROUGHT THE WORD
> TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL. FOR YEARS DEBATE HAS RAGED OVER WEATHER SATURDAY OR
> SUNDAY IS TRULY THE SABBATH. SINCE G-D NEVER CHANGES & SINCE YESHUA OBVIOUSLY
> WAS ARISEN PRIOR TO YOM RISHON (SUNDAY), THE TRUE SABBATH IS SATURDAY.

***The Sabbath is Saturday. The first day of the week is Sunday.

> THE CONFUSION ARISING BETWEEN WHAT DAY IS THE SABBATH PERHAPS LED YESHUA TO SAY
> NO MAN KNOWETH THE DAY.
>
> In concert with grand celestial events Yeshua may have been born in a Saros
> event (year of 7 lunar eclipses):
>
> THE SAROS AT YESHUA'S BIRTH
>
> HEAVENLY EVENTS ARE OF GREAT SIGNIFICANCE. THE HALE-BOPP COMET HAS BEEN CALCULATED AS
> HAVING AN ORBITAL PERIOD OF BETWEEN 3,500 - 4,200 YEARS. EITHER NUMBER IS SIGNIFICANT
> (THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE CALCULATIONS DERIVES FROM PLANETARY GRAVITATIONAL "TUGS" MAKING
> EXACT CALCULATIONS DIFFICULT). 3,500 = 50 X 70 SEVENTY JUBILEES,

***I think the Jubilee cycle is a 49-year cycle. The 50th year is also the first of the new cycle.

> BOTH NUMBERS ARE HIGHLY SIGNIFICANT SCRIPTURALLY.
> THIS ORBITAL PERIOD OF 3,500 YEARS HARKENS BACK TO KING DAVID AND THUS
> SYMBOLIZES THE RETURN OF THE HOUSE OF DAVID (YESHUA). AN ORBITAL PERIOD OF
> 4,200 YEARS REPRESENTS ITS BEING HERE LAST IN THE TIME OF NOAH (WHEN THE
> RIGHTEOUS WERE LIFTED ABOVE---BY WATER {-THE HOLY SPIRIT-} AND AS SUCH
> REPRESENTS A TYPE, FORESHADOW AND SIMILITUDE OF THE FIRST RAPTURE. THE
> SHOEMAKER-LEVY COMET FRAGMENTED INTO 21 PIECES AND HIT JUPITER OVER A SEVEN
> DAY PERIOD FROM JULY 16, 1994 TO JULY 22, 1994. { Asteroids, as foreshadowed
> by the Shoemaker-Levy Comet will be earth's form of future judgmental
> punishment: STONING The ordinary form of capital punishment prescribed by
> Hebrew law. Stoning was the penalty for blasphemy (Lev 24:16), idolatry (Deut
> 13:6-10), desecration of the Sabbath (Num 15:32-36), human sacrifice (Lev
> 20:2), and occultism (20:27). Achan and his family were stoned because of his
> treachery to Israel (Josh 7:16-26). Jesus rebuked Jerusalem for stoning
> prophets (Matt 23:37; Luke 13:34). Stephen was stoned (Acts 7:58-59).
> Executions by stoning took place outside the city (Lev 24:14; 1 Kings 21:10,
> 13; Acts 7:58). } JULY 16 IN 1994 WAS TISHA B'AV ON THE JEWISH CALENDAR THAT
> YEAR. TISHA B'AV (THE 9TH DAY OF AV) IS THE ANNIVERSARY DAY OF THE DESTRUCTION
> OF BOTH THE 1ST AND 2ND OT. TEMPLES! THE 21 PIECES COULD BE THOUGHT OF AS
> REPRESENTATIVE OF THE 21 IMPENDING JUDGMENTS OF REV. (7 SEALS, 7 BOWLS, 7
> TRUMPETS); AND TISHA B'AV IS AN APPROPRIATE DAY FOR SUCH A STELLAR EVENT.
>
> THE SAROS ARE CELESTIAL EVENTS BASED CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH THE 19 YEAR CYCLE
> OF THE JEWISH LUNAR CALENDAR. SEVEN IS G-DS PERFECT NUMBER. SEVEN LUNAR
> ECLIPSES IS PERHAPS HEAVENS WAY TO HERALD THE ARRIVAL OF ROYALTY
>
> PSALM 19: 1 THE HEAVENS DECLARE THE GLORY OF G-D; THE SKIES PROCLAIM THE WORK
> OF HIS HANDS. 2 DAY AFTER DAY THEY POUR FORTH SPEECH; NIGHT AFTER NIGHT THEY
> DISPLAY KNOWLEDGE. GIVES US CONFIDENCE TO LOOK TO THE HEAVENS OR SKIES FOR
> KNOWLEDGE. 1917 WAS A "SAROS" YEAR { A YEAR WITH SEVEN ECLIPSES IN IT; THE
> SEVENTH FALLING ON 12/11/17 OR KISLEV 25(CHANUKAH), 5678}. THE SAROS OCCURS
> EVERY 6585.3 DAYS (ABOUT EVERY 18 YR., 9-11 DAYS DEPENDING ON LEAP YEAR.). IN
> THE FLOW OF TIME THE YEAR 0 B.C.E. OR 0 A.D. (THE YEAR ZERO) WAS NOT EMPLOYED
> BY THE ANCIENTS OF THE MIDDLE EAST. THE INCAS' OF PERU ARE CREDITED WITH
> EMPLOYING ZERO IN THEIR CALCULATIONS.
> THEREFORE IF WE CONVERT 12/11/1917 INTO DAYS WE OBTAIN: (365.25 x 1917) +
> 345 (DAYS IN 1917 UNTIL 12/11/17) = 700,530 DAYS. THEORETICALLY, THESE NUMBER
> OF DAYS WOULD BRING US TO THE YEAR 0/0/00. BUT THERE WAS NO YEAR ZERO, AND
> JEWISH INCLUSIVE RECKONING USES THE BEGINNING AS NUMBER ONE. 700,530 DAYS
> REPRESENTS 700530/6585.3 = 106.377 SAROS' YESHUA MAY HAVE BEEN BORN IN A
> SAROS YEAR OF SEVEN ECLIPSES. THE SCIENCE OF PHYSICS REGARDING WAVES AND NODES
> HINTS THAT PATTERNS CAN REPEAT AT HALF NODES. IN ORDER TO GET TO THE NEAREST
> HALF NODE FROM 106.377 WE ADD 0.123 PARTS OF A SAROS. THE YEAR 0/0/00 WOULD
> CORRESPOND TO 1/1/-1 or 1 B.C.E.. 0.123 PARTS OF A SAROS IS = 0.123 x 6585.3 =
> 810 DAYS = 2.22 YEARS. IF WE GO BACK 2.22 YEARS FROM 1 B.C.E. WE MAY OBTAIN A
> ROUGH IDEA OF WHEN YESHUA WAS BORN. THIS TURNS OUT TO BE BETWEEN 1 & 2 B.C.E.
> YESHUA WAS PROBABLY BORN ON TISHRI 1 (THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS), SATURDAY (THE L-RD OF
> THE SABBATH, BORN ON THE SABBATH), SEPTEMBER 9, 4 B.C.

***I think Jesus was born on Saturday, the Feast of Trumpets, in BC 5, was visited by the wise men when about two years old in BC 3, before Herod's death in BC 1.

> According to the Gospels, Jesus was born some time before the death of Herod the Great.
> Josephus, the Jewish historian who was born A.D. 37, affirms (Antiq. 17.6.4) that Herod
> died shortly after an eclipse of the moon...astronomically fixed at March 12-13, 4 B.C.

***There was an eclipse of the moon on Jan. 10, BC 1.

> His death occurred shortly before Passover, which
> that year fell on April 4. Jesus was born at least some months before Herod's
> death. Christ's presentation in the temple after he was 40 days old (Lev
> 12:1-8; Luke 2:22-24) means that the wise men came at least six weeks after
> his birth. The time spent in Egypt is uncertain, perhaps several months. Thus,
> the birth of Jesus should be placed in the latter part of the year 2 B.C. }

***I don't understand. Here you say the birth of Jesus is in "2 B.C." Earlier, you said, "YESHUA WAS PROBABLY BORN ON TISHRI 1...SEPTEMBER 9, 4 B.C.

> The Return of Yeshua (via the method of Saros): 6585.3 X DAYS BETWEEN SAROS
> AND STARTING WITH 12/11/17 (ALLENBY' CAPTURING OF JERUSALEM) WHICH WAS THE
> 7TH LUNAR ECLIPSE WE CALCULATE: 6585.3 X 5 = 32,926.5 DAYS = 90.147 YEARS =
> 90 YEARS 54 DAYS 6/11/17 + 90 + 54 DAYS = August 5 2007 - March 2008....

***I think Christ will return on Nisan 1, 5768 (our April 6, 2008). I also think Allenby's taking of Jerusalem in 1917 was important. I have a file on it at:
http://www.kiwi.net/~mjagee/parallels.html
There is also a section of a file that gives an update on it at:
http://www.kiwi.net/~mjagee/pentecost1999.html

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