Pro and Con 260

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***From Marilyn: Overall, interesting to read, but we disagree on the Rapture date, the date of the birth of Yeshua/Jesus and the date of the Second Advent. I will point out where we agree and differ below. Quoted paragraphs are usually individual excerpts, not connected text.

***He calls the whole Tribulation "the time of Jacob's trouble." The time of Jacob's trouble is one day, the Day of God's Wrath. Dan. 12:1 says, "and there shall be a time of trouble, such as NEVER was since there was a nation even to that same time."

***He adds 1517 + 483 = 2000 for Tribulation's beginning. To be more accurate, I used the Jewish Calendar (5278 + 483 = 5761, our 2000/01). I think the Seventieth Week of Daniel/Tribulation will begin on the Feast of Weeks/Pentecost in 2001.

"G-ds prophetic clock of prophecy was to be synchronized by the reginal year of Israel, 1949, not 1948. To 1949 we add 50 (not 40) as 50 is the year of Jubilee (a.k.a. year of release,,,read rapture here). This would have put them at 1989. But we know the groom tarries. How long-easy. The tarry time is given by the shadow on the steps of Ahaz, going back (i.e. delaying) 10 steps or increments. Thus it is quite compelling that 1989 + 10 = 1999 as the year of rapture.

***Let's see, 1949 + 50 = 1999, not 1989. Israel declared her Independence on Iyar 5, 5708. That is after the Sacred and Regnal Year began on Nisan 1. Therefore, the next beginning of a Regnal Year was Nisan 1, 5709. The year 5709 + 50 = 5759 (1999). I don't think we need that extra ten years to get to 1999. However, if we count from 5759 (1999) to the Second Advent in 5768 (2008) by Jewish inclusive reckoning, we get ten more years (5759, 5760, 5761, 5762, 5763, 5764, 5765, 5766, 5767, 5768), and the Second Advent is on Nisan 1 (Ezek. 29:17,21; Hos, 6:3). This ten years may line up with Rev. 2:10's "ye shall have tribulation ten days." That word translated "days" can mean various time periods, the meaning to be understood by the context. The remnant of the church under great persecution may have Tribulation ten years.

"490 years 1517 to 2007. Most probably 2007 is the year of the second coming of Yeshua. The pattern of seven eclipses of 1917, with the seventh occurring during General Allenbys liberation of Jerusalem will repeat itself on the 5th multiple of the Saros: 5 x 18 = 90. 90 + 1917 = 2007 / 2008.

***I think the Second Coming is Nisan 1, 5768 (Apr. 6, 2008). If we start with the Jewish year 5278 (1517), when Martin Luther tacked his 95 theses on the church DOOR in Wittenberg, Germany, and add 490 years (Dan. 9:24), we get 5768 (2007/2008). If we start with 5278 and add 400, the years in bondage after which they shall come forth (Acts 7:7), we get 5678 (1917/18). If we start with the Jewish year 5678 (1917/8), when Allenby liberated Jerusalem, and add 90 years, Sarah's age when she had Isaac, we arrive at 5768, when the Son of God will arrive on Earth. "For this is the word of promise, At this time shall I come, and Sarah shall have a son" (Rom. 9:9). It is interesting that it ends up on a Saros year, and that the 5th multiple of the Saros is 90.

"As far as Yeshua having his Passover feast, it will not be a mere earthly meal after having accomplished all his earthly sacrifices, he is too great as were his sacrifices too great for a mere earthly meal; rather it will be the Wedding banquet described in Revelations when his earthly bride is raptured!

***I think the Marriage of the Lamb follows the Coronation ceremony on Tishri 1, 5768 (Sept. 13, 2007). It is on the same day as the Pre-Wrath Rapture.

"30 A.D. {March 22nd was a Friday, April 6th was a Saturday} may have been an intercalary year of 13 months.

***I think April 6 (Crucifixion Day) was Thursday, Nisan 13, in 30 AD.

"YESHUA WAS CRUCIFIED ON WEDNESDAY APRIL 3, 30 A.D. (NISAN 13Š REMEMBER THE # 13 AND ITS MEANING, SEE ALSO PURIM 13TH DAY OF MONTH). THURSDAY NISAN 14 WAS THE FEAST OF PASSOVER. OUR L-RD AROSE JUST BEFORE TWILIGHT ON SATURDAY NISAN 16 (April 6th 30 A.D.)

***I think he arose on Sunday, Nisan 16, Apr. 9, 30 AD.

"HE WAS ARISEN ON SATURDAY, AT THE END OF 3 (three) COMPLETE 24 HOUR PERIODS. RESURRECTION WEEK WAS NISAN 10-16 SUNDAY EVENING ON NISAN 10 TO SAT. EVE NISAN 16.

***The three days "since" were Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Nisan 10 was Monday (started at 6:00 PM Sunday evening), 11th Tuesday, 12th Wednesday, 13th Thursday, 14th Friday, 15th Saturday, 16th Sunday.

"As we see the next saros will be in 2007/2008 the time of the 2nd coming.

***This agrees with my Nisan 1, 2008.

"Mathew 26: 2 "As you know, the Passover is two days away--and the Son of Man will be handed over to be crucified." His words indicate that he is to be crucified before Passover (within those the two days).

***I agree. Jesus, six days before the passover, came to Bethany" (John 12:1,12,13). The next day was Palm Sunday. On Monday, he purified the temple and cursed the fig tree. On Tuesday, he gave the Olivet Discourse and the fig tree had dried up. Then, "AFTER two days was the feast of the passover" (Mk. 14:1). Those two days were Wednesday and Thursday. Friday was the Passover, Saturday the Feast of Unleavened Bread and Sunday the Feast of Firstfruits.

"Yeshua did share a last supper with the Talmudim but it was not the Passover...39 However, you have a custom that at Passover I set one prisoner free. Do you want me to set free for you the 'king of the Jews'?" 40 But they yelled back, "No, not this man but Bar-Abba!" (Bar- Abba was a revolutionary.)"

***I agree.

"1967 + 40 = 2007 (2nd coming) minus 7 years for time of great tribulation = 2007 - 7 = 1999 as the year of Rapture!

***(5728 [1967/8] + 40 = 5768 [2007/2008]) (2007 - 8 = 1999) These 8 years may be prefigured by doubting Thomas seeing Christ after 8 days (John 20:26).

"1948 was re-birth of Israel. 1949 began the reginal year for Israel thus the jubilee year is 1949 + 50 = 1999. 1999 is also first year of new millennium as Yeshua was not born in the year zero, but rather 1-2 BC. 1999 is also the 3500 yr anniversary (50 X 70) of Jerusalem. The rapture will be in 1999.

***I think the Jewish 5759 (1998/1999) is the 6001st year since Adam was kicked out of the Garden of Eden and man began to be tried as mortal and knowing both good and evil.

***I think Jesus was born in 3756 (BC 5) and the wise men came to see him when he was about 2 years old in 3758 (BC 3). At that time they symbolically anointed him King and Priest by the gifts that they brought. Gold stands for deity and kingship. Frankincense stands for the priesthood. Myrrh stands for both bitterness and sweetness. The herb had to be bruised to bring forth its sweetness. The gifts were appropriate, and the year was appropriate.

***Adam was created in BC 4044/3 and was cast out of the Garden in BC 4004/3. That is when man's test as mortal and knowing both good and evil began. BC 4004/3 - 4000 years = BC 4/3 = Jewish 3758, the year the wise men visited Yeshua. The Jewish 3758 (BC 4/3) + 2000 years = 5758 (1997/8). The extra year to prove the Bride is a virgin and to purify her (Esth. 2:12) brings us to 1999 for the Rapture. We agree on the year and disagree on the month and day.

"SS2:10My lover (the groom) spoke and said to me (the bride),"Arise, my darling ("Come up hither"), my beautiful one, and come with me (The rapture). 11See! The winter is past (Its Spring); the rains (Nisan 1) are over and gone. 12Flowers appear on the earth; 13The fig tree forms its early fruit (Messianic Jewish movement); This passage irrefutably places the rapture in Spring.

***I agree.

"we will all be changed-- 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. {SINCE SHAOUL DIED PRIOR TO THE WRITING OF THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS, SHAOUL'S LAST SHOFAR CANNOT REFER TO THE 7th TRUMP OF REVELATIONS} For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

***Since all Scripture is God breathed, when Revelation was written has no bearing on it. However, both the Pre-Trib and Pre-Wrath Raptures take place before the seven trumpet judgments are cast on Earth. The Tribulation saints are in Heaven in Rev. 7:14. The seven trumpets sound in Rev. 8. Also, the two trumps of GOD are not the same as the seven trumpets sounded by ANGELS. The two trumps are prefigured by the two silver assembly trumpets of Nu. 10:2-4.

"You see the time of Yeshua's coming, contrary to popular Christian MISCONCEPTION IS SPECIFIED EXACTLY; all we need do is to discern when the "last trump" is. Also the exact time of the 2nd coming is specified in haftorah Daniel: 11"From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. 13"As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance." If you or I or anyone is alive when the abomination that causes desolation is set up, we can exactly "know the time ", just count off 1335 days. Thus we see the prevailing Christian concept that "no man can ever know the time" is incorrect and if it is incorrect in this instance, it is flawed logic totally!!!!

***I think Christ will return on Nisan 1, 5768 (Apr. 6, 2008). That is not the 1335th day counted from the middle of the Tribulation. Daniel is to stand in his lot in Israel on the 1335th day. Dan. 12:13 says, "thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days."

"Psalm 72:6 He will be like rain (MIRACLES) falling on a field BEFORE BEING mown, { mown as in a HARVEST,,, a harvest RAPTURE OF BELIEVERS ! } like showers watering the earth. Interpretation: Rain is the Holy Spirit, MOWN FIELD SYMBOLIZES a Harvest that just happened, i.e. The RAPTURE! RAIN (MIRACLES) BEFORE THE RAPTURE!!

***Psa. 72:6,7 in Green's Interlinear says, "He shall descend (Second Advent) like rain (the latter rain of Nisan 1) on the MOWN grass (the Day of God's Wrath is 7 months before the Second Advent, Ezek. 39:12); like showers that water the earth. In His days the righteous shall flourish, and plenty of peace." Unbelievers are as mown grass on the Day of God's Wrath.

"Noah et al, entered on Nisan 10 and were safely shut inside the ark on Nisan 16th. The flood began on the 17th day of the second month (Genesis 7:11)

***Nisan was the seventh month. The flood began on Cheshvan 17, which, at that time, was the second month. Also, "In the selfsame day entered Noah" (Gen. 7:11-13).

"If we compute the sixth month as the 6th month after Rosh HaShannah, {Nisan}& also assume that Yeshua was born in a 13 month long Hebrew year & also assume that Miryam conceived soon after arriving at Elizabeth's house & also assume that Miryam's pregnancy was SEVEN months (as opposed to 9 months long) then the month of Yeshua's conception is Nisan {Most likely Firstfruits Nisan 16}& the month of His birth Tishri (Most likely Yom Kippur The Day of Atonement}

***I think Yeshua was born on Tishri 1, in BC 5 and that his conception was 9 months prior. I have that Jewish year, 3756, marked as the 13th year of the 197th cycle, an OY, ordinary year. I think I got that from Bond's "Handy-Book of Rules and Tables for Verifying Dates with the Christian Era." There is a good chance that Yeshua was conceived on Hanukkuh, the Feast of Lights.

"FOR THOSE WHO STILL DO NOT SEE IT YESHUA WILL RETURN TO RAPTURE US ON HIS DAY OF CONCEPTION (NOT BIRTH, BUT CONCEPTION), HIS DAY OF RESURRECTION AT THE LAST SHOFAR!

***I doubt it, because Hanukkah is in the winter. Song of Solomon 2:10,11 says, "Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone."

"YESHUA WAS CRUCIFIED ON WEDNESDAY APRIL 3, 30 A.D. (NISAN 13Š REMEMBER THE # 13 AND ITS MEANING, SEE ALSO PURIM 13TH DAY OF MONTH). THURSDAY NISAN 14 WAS THE FEAST OF PASSOVER. OUR L-RD AROSE JUST BEFORE TWILIGHT ON SATURDAY NISAN 16 (April 6th 30 A.D.).

***I think the Crucifixion was Thursday, Nisan 13, April 6, 30 AD.

"AT 3:00 PM ON PASSOVER, THE SANHEDREN WAS COMPLETING THEIR ULTIMATE, FINAL HYPOCRISY BY SACRIFICING THEIR PASSOVER LAMB WHILE YESHUA EXPIRED.

***I think the lambs were killed at the temple between 3:00 and 5:00 PM on the Day of Preparation, Nisan 13. They had to be roasted to be ready to eat between 6:00 PM and midnight on Nisan 14. Jesus died about 3:00 PM on the Day of Preparation.

"YESHUA PROBABLY BEGAN HIS MINISTRY 1000 DAYS PRIOR TO NISAN 13, 4810 ON SIVAN 6, 4807 (SHAVOUT‹THE FEAST OF WEEKS-- PENTECOST, 2.76 YEARS EARLIER).

***I think there were 4 passovers and that Yeshua's ministry lasted 3 1/2 years.

"THE HALE-BOPP COMET HAS BEEN CALCULATED AS HAVING AN ORBITAL PERIOD OF BETWEEN 3,500 - 4,200 YEARS. EITHER NUMBER IS SIGNIFICANT (THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE CALCULATIONS DERIVES FROM PLANETARY GRAVITATIONAL "TUGS" MAKING EXACT CALCULATIONS DIFFICULT). 3,500 = 50 X 70 SEVENTY JUBILEES, BOTH NUMBERS ARE HIGHLY SIGNIFICANT SCRIPTURALLY. THIS ORBITAL PERIOD OF 3,500 YEARS HARKENS BACK TO KING DAVID AND THUS SYMBOLIZES THE RETURN OF THE HOUSE OF DAVID (YESHUA). AN ORBITAL PERIOD OF 4,200 YEARS REPRESENTS ITS BEING HERE LAST IN THE TIME OF NOAH (WHEN THE RIGHTEOUS WERE LIFTED ABOVE---BY WATER {‹THE HOLY SPIRIT‹} AND AS SUCH REPRESENTS A TYPE, FORESHADOW AND SIMILITUDE OF THE FIRST RAPTURE. THE SHOEMAKER-LEVY COMET FRAGMENTED INTO 21 PIECES AND HIT JUPITER OVER A SEVEN DAY PERIOD FROM JULY 16, 1994 TO JULY 22, 1994. { Asteroids, as foreshadowed by the Shoemaker-Levy Comet will be earthıs form of future judgmental punishment: STONING The ordinary form of capital punishment prescribed by Hebrew law. Stoning was the penalty for blasphemy (Lev 24:16), idolatry (Deut 13:6-10), desecration of the Sabbath (Num 15:32-36), human sacrifice (Lev 20:2), and occultism (20:27). Achan and his family were stoned because of his treachery to Israel (Josh 7:16-26). Jesus rebuked Jerusalem for stoning prophets (Matt 23:37; Luke 13:34). Stephen was stoned (Acts 7:58-59). Executions by stoning took place outside the city (Lev 24:14; 1 Kings 21:10, 13; Acts 7:58). } JULY 16 IN 1994 WAS TISHA BıAV ON THE JEWISH CALENDAR THAT YEAR. TISHA BıAV (THE 9TH DAY OF AV) IS THE ANNIVERSARY DAY OF THE DESTRUCTION OF BOTH THE 1ST AND 2ND OT. TEMPLES! THE 21 PIECES COULD BE THOUGHT OF AS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE 21 IMPENDING JUDGMENTS OF REV. (7 SEALS, 7 BOWLS, and 7 TRUMPETS); AND TISHA BıAV IS AN APPROPRIATE DAY FOR SUCH A STELLAR EVENT.

***Interesting information, except a Jubilee cycle is 49 years. The 50th year was the first year of the next cycle. The pieces of the comet hitting Jupiter seem to be a sign in the "stars."

"IF WE CONVERT 12/11/1917 INTO DAYS WE OBTAIN: (365.25 x 1917) + 345 (DAYS IN 1917 UNTIL 12/11/17) = 700,530 DAYS. THEORETICALLY, THESE NUMBER OF DAYS WOULD BRING US TO THE YEAR 0/0/00. BUT THERE WAS NO YEAR ZERO, AND JEWISH INCLUSIVE RECKONING USES THE BEGINNING AS NUMBER ONE. 700,530 DAYS REPRESENTS 700530/6585.3 = 106.377 SAROSı YESHUA MAY HAVE BEEN BORN IN A SAROS YEAR OF SEVEN ECLIPSES. THE SCIENCE OF PHYSICS REGARDING WAVES AND NODES HINTS THAT PATTERNS CAN REPEAT AT HALF NODES. IN ORDER TO GET TO THE NEAREST HALF NODE FROM 106.377 WE ADD 0.123 PARTS OF A SAROS. THE YEAR 0/0/00 WOULD CORRESPOND TO 1/1/-1 or 1 B.C.E.. 0.123 PARTS OF A SAROS IS = 0.123 x 6585.3 = 810 DAYS = 2.22 YEARS. IF WE GO BACK 2.22 YEARS FROM 1 B.C.E. WE MAY OBTAIN A ROUGH IDEA OF WHEN YESHUA WAS BORN. THIS TURNS OUT TO BE BETWEEN 2 & 3 B.C.E. YESHUA WAS PROBABLY BORN ON TISHRI 1 (THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS), SATURDAY (THE L-RD OF THE SABBATH, BORN ON THE SABBATH), SEPTEMBER 9, 4 B.C.

*** I think Yeshua was born on Saturday, Tishri 1, in 5 BC.

"The Return of Yeshua (via the method of Saros): 6585.3 X DAYS BETWEEN SAROS AND STARTING WITH 12/11/17 (ALLENBYı CAPTURING OF JERUSALEM) WHICH WAS THE 7TH ECLIPSE WE CALCULATE: 6585.3 X 5 = 32,926.5 DAYS = 90.147 YEARS = 90 YEARS 54 DAYS 6/11/17 + 90 + 54 DAYS = August 5 2007 - March 2008.

"we add 1967 + 40 to get 2007, the year of Yeshuas second coming

***I think the Second Advent will be on the beginning of the Regnal Year, Nisan 1, 5768 (our April 6, 2008). 5728 (1967/8) + 40 = 5768 (2007/8).

"(Mt. 26) 45 Then he returned to the disciples and said to them, "Are you still sleeping and resting? { The three "returns" Yeshua foretell of his delaying his coming, his "long-suffering" between the years 1967 to 1999

***Might not the three "returns" portray Rapture I (1999), Rapture II (2007), and the Second Advent (2008)?

"(The U.S.A.) is not a player in end time events. The only answer possible is that the U.S. is the whore of Babylon, referred to in the Book of Revelations.

***I think Babylon is literal Babylon on the Euphrates River in Iraq.

"(Satan) Often he transforms himself into "an angel of light" by presenting his apostles of falsehood as messengers of truth (2 Cor 11:13-15).

***This "angel of light" may call himself Mary too. He wants to be worshipped.

"I suspect these so-called space aliens are in fact fallen angels, those who rebelled with hasatan and hence are therefore are demonic creatures with evil intent.

***I agree.

"The ten panels represented the ten planets existing at the time of the Tower of Babel. The tower must have some how been associated with an attempt by hasatan to "regain" or see his old planet ­ Rahab. Rahab was explosively destroyed by G-d, symbolized by the birth of Yeshua and Him being the triumph of good over evil. The bright explosion, the destruction of the evil planet, led the wisemen to Bethlehem.

***I think Rahab was destroyed before Adam.

"As it stands now, Saturn is the 7th celestial body from the center of the solar system, using Jewish inclusive reckoning, the sun is the first. Some of Saturnıs physical properties are truly unique: The rings are named in order of their discovery, and from the planet outward they are known as the D, C, B, A, F, G, and E rings (INTERESTING TO NOTE THERE ARE SEVEN MAJOR RINGS).

"But the really startling phenomena is What may be a standing-wave pattern, repeated six times around the planet, makes cloud bands some distance from the pole appear to form a huge, permanent hexagon, despite Saturnian equatorial winds have velocities close to 1700 km/hr (1060 mph)!!! IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THE INTERIOR GEOMETRIC SHAPE OF THE STAR OF DAVID IS A HEXAGON !!!!!!

***Interesting information. Josephus said of the candlestick, it "spread itself into as many branches as there are planets, including the sun among them" (Antiq. III.VII.7). Then the candlestick represented the Sun, Mercury, Venus, EARTH, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Earth was in the center. Heaven was number seven, God's number. In the temple, the western light was to always be kept burning. That is because it represented the Sun. The other lamps were lit at night, proper for planets that could only be seen as lamps at night.

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Subject: present tense "knows"
Gone By 4299 and others rationalize the "No one knows the day or hour" argument by countering that because the word "knows" is present it must have applied only to the apostles' generation and no one else's but I don't think it's that easily dismissed.

I'm sure that anyone with an understanding of the nuance of the English language realizes that there is a broader time frame that can be given to a verb like "knows" that transcends the present to stretch backward and especially forward in time. I believe it was this usage that our Lord was using when He said "But of that day and hour knows no man" although only the original Greek would be able to get close to the true meaning and provide some insight into the flexibility of the tense.

Be that as it may, I believe what the Lord was saying was "Of that day and hour KNOWS no man, not now, not in the past and not in the future." It's similar to the response a person gives when asked a question he cannot answer. For example "When is Mary coming back?" Answer: "Who KNOWS?" The answer takes in more than just the present. It also alludes to the probability that the person making the response didn't know yesterday and won't know tomorrow and probably not for an indefinite span of time into the future. Many will argue that Jesus included Himself in the second part of the statement as well as the angels in heaven and that now He must know so the response has to be concerned only with the apostles' generation. However, the inclusion of the angels in Jesus' statement poses a complication. If Jesus and the angels did not know at the time Jesus made the remark and the remark only pertained to the generation of Jesus' day then Jesus and the angels must know now. So when did the angels come into possession of this knowledge and how? I can see the remark meaning exactly what it says. Only the Father is in possession of the time, Jesus having purposely divested Himself of this one event, so awesome and far-reaching must it be.

My reply

> I believe what the Lord was saying was "Of that day and
> hour KNOWS no man, not now, not in the past and not in the future."

I don't believe that we can go beyond what it actually says. On that particular day, no man knew.

Luke 12:42-47 says of an unwise steward (i.e., a foolish virgin), "The lord of that servant will come in a DAY when he looketh not for him, and at an HOUR when he is NOT AWARE, and will cut him in sunder (cut him off), and will appoint him his portion (the shortened Tribulation) with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself (i.e., did not confess his sins as per I John 1:9), neither did according to his will (did not watch, etc.), shall be beaten with many stripes."

However, let's turn it around and see what it would say if it were addressed to a wise steward (i.e., a wise virgin). The message to a wise steward would say that the lord of that servant will come in a DAY when he LOOKETH FOR HIM, and at an HOUR when he IS AWARE, and will NOT cut him off, and will NOT appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. I want to be a wise steward. Dan. 12:10 says, "none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise SHALL understand." God's shalls are stronger than steel.

Jesus warned the church, "hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt NOT WATCH, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt NOT KNOW what HOUR I will come upon thee" (Rev. 3:3).

Lets turn this one around and see what happens if one DOES WATCH. It would then say that if therefore thou shalt WATCH, I will NOT come on thee as a thief, and THOU SHALT KNOW WHAT HOUR I WILL COME UPON THEE.

Both of these passages refer to today, when the Rapture is "at hand" (Rev. 1:3; 22:10). I am watching. Jesus commanded us to watch. Refrain from doing so at your own peril.

In the parable of the wise and foolish virgins, Jesus said, "And while they (the foolish) went to buy (oil, symbol of the Holy Spirit), the bridegroom came; and they that were READY (the Bride of Christ) went in with him to the MARRIAGE: and the door was shut (as in Noah's Ark, where they went in two by two). Afterward (after the Rapture) came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you (foolish virgins), I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye (foolish virgins) know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh" (Mt. 25: 10-13).

He did not say that the wise know neither the day nor the hour. He addressed it to the foolish. If they were wise, Daniel said, "the wise SHALL understand."

It is the same way at the time of the Rapture. Mt. 24:41,42 says, "Two women (two religious groups) shall be grinding at the mill; the one (the wise Philadelphians) shall be taken, and the other (the foolish Laodiceans) left. Watch therefore: for ye (the ones left) know NOT what HOUR your Lord doth come."

Of the evil servant, the Lord said, "The lord of that servant shall come in a DAY when he looketh NOT for him, and in an HOUR that he is not aware of. And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there SHALL be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Mt. 24:50,51).

If it was addressed to the faithful and wise servant, it would say that the lord of that servant shall come in a DAY when he LOOKETH FOR HIM, AND IN AN HOUR THAT HE IS AWARE OF.

Some ministers are afraid of being wrong. Therefore, they shy away from dates totally. They are not watching. They say, "We don't go into that here." Jesus said, "But know this, that if the goodman of the house (church) had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house (church) to be broken up. Therefore be ye (the goodman of the house) also ready: for in such an HOUR as ye think NOT the Son of man cometh."

The Lord means for us to stay alert, search the Scriptures and watch.

I John 2:18-28 says, "Little children (the last generation), it is the last time (year?): and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we KNOW that IT IS THE LAST TIME.... But ye have an unction (anointing) from the Holy One, and YE KNOW ALL THINGS. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because YE KNOW IT...the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of ALL THINGS, and is truth...And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming."

"Nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest: neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad" (Luke 8:17). "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you ALL THINGS" (Mark 13:23).

The prophets who dutifully recorded the time clues did not necessarily understand them. But, they "prophesied of the grace that should come to YOU: SEARCHING WHAT, OR WHAT MANNER OF TIME the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify" (I Peter 1:10,11).

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