Pro and Con 27

Incoming Email

I have noticed some other "coincidence!" The year 1967 was the sign. Not until 20 years old is considered adult. You published your book in 1987 (20 years). Also, 30 years old is mature. Hence, 1997, most people should know about the times fortold. Interesting, yes? Keep adding to your site.

My reply

Thanks. I had not thought of that 20 year bit. I copyrighted my book then to show that I knew that nothing was going to happen in 1988.

Incoming Email, Re: FAX from Jerusalem

This FAX was really exciting to me and my father. This is a great revelation from the Word related to these last days. When I showed this FAX to my father, who has studied and taught bible prophecy for the last 40+ years, tears came to his eyes. This what he was taught by a bible teacher years ago at the begining of his christian walk approx. 40 years ago. He was so exciteded. He gave it to the senior pastor at our church and this FAX was read in front of approx. 300-400 people in our church.

The word is spreading. Thank you for keeping us informed

My reply

Thanks for this information and for spreading the word.

Incoming Email, Re: Predestination

Your web site is fascinating. I have no idea when the rapture is but I hope you are right. The groom will not leave his bride standing by the alter once the acceptable date arrives.

I saw something on predestination in one of your Pro and Cons. Since no one can know that Jesus Christ is God unless the Holy Spirit first reveals it to him the decision comes not from our nature [desperatly wicked] but from God. No one could ever accept Jesus Christ with out this truth first being revealed to them.

This does not make us robots but makes us love God all the more. We have spiritual decisions to make every day-the difference is after we are born of the spirit our will is no longer in bondage to sin. Eagerly awating your reply,

My reply

Amen. I'll put this on the Pro and Con for all to read. Thanks.

Incoming Email

...I have enjoyed your web page and your book, The End of the Age. God bless you in your ministry. Thanks.

Incoming Email

Dear Marilyn, I read your book about 3 years ago and have just finished reading it again. There was so much I had forgotten. I also recieved new insights as I realized just how much the world has changed/progressed towards these very end times. Thanks again for an outstanding book. It raised a question that has been brought to my mind often. What is your theory on the "shortened" tribulation. Will it will still have 1260 days as the first? If it were less days it would mess up the future dates and times. Could it be that the earth would revolve more rapidly causing "shortened days". It would still be a day, just not a full 24 hours, although I don't know of any verses to substantiate something like this. I'm puzzeled over this and and am curious how you think they will actually be shortened. Thanks

P.S. I'm getting your next book. Can't wait to read it.

My reply

Glad you liked my book.

Re: the shortened tribulation.
First, an overview. The whole Tribulation is 2,520 days, 7 years long. It is the Seventieth Week of Daniel (Dan. 9:27). At the end of it dominion is taken from Satan. The first half of the Tribulation is the 1,260 days that Moses and Elijah prophesy (Rev. 11:3). During this time, the Jews sacrifice at the temple. Then in the middle of the Tribulation, the False Prophet kills Moses and Elijah, probably because they will not bow down to him or his idol the day he sits in the temple shewing himself that he is God (II Thess. 2:4). Sacrificing stops that day because the temple is desecrated.

The number of days of the Shortened Tribulation are given in Daniel 8:13,14. It says, "How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." These are literal days for verse 26 says that this is a "vision of the evening and the morning." This ties in to Genesis 1:5: "And the evening and the morning were the first day."

The total of days the Jews sacrifice in the temple plus the days they don't because of the transgression of desolation are 2,300. Thus, the Shortened Tribulation lasts 2,300 days. Therefore the last half is shortened to 1,040 days. This is when the Wrath of God is poured out on Earth. If these days were not shortened, no flesh would be saved (Mt. 24:22).

The 2,300 days run from the Feast of Weeks that begins the Tribulation in 2001 to the Feast of Trumpets in 2007, in the 40th year since the Sign of the End of the Age in 1967. This was when Israel grew leaves (Sinai, West Bank, Golan Heights, and Gaza Strip) in the Six-Day War and fulfilled the Fig Tree Parable of Mt. 24:32-34.

The Lord uses a whirlwind to cause the binary asteroid to split apart and strike Earth on the 2,300th day, the Feast of Trumpets. It seems to me that he makes it strike on that particular pass so it will hit at an oblique angle. If he let it go on to a later time, it would probably strike with a direct hit and the Earth might fly apart as Satan's planet Rahab did.

I found something interesting in Dr. Tabor's sample translations for the Original Bible Project. Ezekiel 28:16 says, 'In the increase of your trading they filled the midst of you with violence, and you (Satan, the guarding cherub) sinned, and I pierced you, from the mountain of ELOHIM, and I destroyed you, O covering Cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire (the planets)."

"I pierced you, from the mountain of ELOHIM" is what caught my eye. Satan's planet Rahab was hit by a rock and split into pieces forming our Asteroid Belt. This statement suggests that the rock that hit Rahab may have come from Heaven, the mountain of Elohim.

Only because the days are to be shortened will Earth escape the fate of Rahab. The astroid impacts, one in the Mediterranean Sea, the other at Babylon, will be bad, but not that bad. Dr. Tabor's translation of Isaiah 24:1 says, "Behold, YHVH empties the earth and wastes it, and has twisted its face, and scattered its dwellers."

Incoming Email

As I was looking for an answer, I happen across your pages. I know that God has sent me on a mission to find him and bring my family and I closer to him in these final days. I praise the work you have done and hope that you will continue.

May God continue to bless you as he has me.

My reply

I am not a prophet, but I have been studying the Bible as hard as I can go since 1960. It looks to me like we have only a matter of months to get ready. We have to first accept Christ as our own personal Saviour. Pray and tell him you believe in him and then tell someone else. Romans 10:9 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

At this point you are as a pure virgin, sinless. All old sins are wiped off the slate. When you sin after that, use I John 1:9. It says, "If we confess our sins (known ones), he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (including unknown sins). This is like when Jesus washed Peter's feet.

The wise virgins in Matthew 25 have done this. Therefore they have plenty of the oil of the Holy Spirit to go with the Lord when he comes for his Bride. The foolish virgins are left behind because they are not filled with this oil. Sin quenches the Holy Spirit. It's level goes down, not all the way for we are sealed until the Day of Redemption, but we are not filled either. To be sure we go in the Rapture, we must do our best to do what Scripture tells us, be filled with the Holy Spirit.

Luke 21:36 also tells us what to do. It says, "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

Terrible destruction will hit Earth at the end of the coming Tribulation. It will destroy civilization as we know it. We have been given a chance to escape in the Rapture before the Tribulation. To be chosen as the Bride of Christ and be caught up to Heaven at this time, we must be wearing the white wedding garments, i.e., be a wise virgin.

Peter gives us good advice. In II Peter: 1:4-11, he says, "Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity (God's agape love). For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But he that lacketh these things is blind (like the Laodiceans of Rev. 3:14f), and cannot see afar off (Heaven), and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, he shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ."

Incoming Email

You are not the first brother propose to me the idea of 2 raptures. Do you think there is any correlation with the Scripture "Many are called but few are chosen"? Does the number of virgins being 5 have any significance to the identity of the virgins? since 5 is the number for grace. Only true christians have recieved the grace of God right? Does the feast of Trumpets in Leviticus 23 give us any clue as to the timing of the Rapture? Does this line up with the LAST TRUMP that Paul mentions in 1 Cor 15. I would appreciate your feedback on this.

My reply

> Do you think there is any correlation with the Scripture "Many
> are called but few are chosen"?

Yes. I think all Christians are called, but only the wise virgins will be chosen as the Bride of Christ and be caught up to Heaven in the first Rapture. This is a prize we must run the race to win.

Paul said, "Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air; But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway."

Paul could not lose his salvation. Neither can we. We are sealed until the day of redemption. But, Paul could be a castaway if he acted like a lukewarm Laodicean. They are to be spewed out of Christ's mouth at the first Rapture. They will have to endure the Tribulation, take their chances of being martyred, and be taken up in the second Rapture just before the Wrath of God is poured out as the Millennium begins. They are not the Bride of Christ, but they are still the Body of Christ. The Bride is one foot of the Body. The rest of the Body is the other foot. The Bride not only wins that prize, but gets to be taken to Heaven Pre-Trib. The last foot is taken to Heaven Pre-Wrath. It is infinitely better to go in the first Rapture.

> Does the number of virgins being 5 have
> any significance to the identity of the virgins? since 5 is the number
> for grace. Only true christians have recieved the grace of God right?

All the ten virgins are believers and have received the Holy Spirit. THEY ARE SAVED BY GRACE. However, only the five wise virgins will be caught up in the first Rapture. (The caps happened again. I did not mean to capitalize the above. It just happened. Neither the caps lock or shift key were down.)

The foolish virgins are saved by grace. Their problem is that they think they have it made and they don't. They are in the Body of Christ, but are still in the stomach, unassimilated, and can be vomited out. If they were working parts of the Body, they could not be vomited out.

As for the number 5, just maybe there is a correlation between the five wise virgins and the fifth of the corn that was taken up by Joseph in Egypt.

> Does the feast of Trumpets in Leviticus 23 give us any clue as to the
> timing of the Rapture? Does this line up with the LAST TRUMP that Paul
> mentions in 1 Cor 15.

The spring feasts in Nisan have to do with the First Advent. Pentecost belongs to the Church. The fall feasts in Tishri have to do with the beginning of the Millennium.

I think Pentecost is the time of the first trump, the Pre-Trib Rapture, and that the last trump will call the Tribulation saints to Heaven on the Feast of Trumpets that begins the Millennium. That will be the Pre-Wrath Rapture.

Incoming Email, Re: First Rapture, First Resurrection

Thanks for your response to my last email to you. I really didn't think you would answer back so soon. I'm glad you did. I now have 51 of your articles downloaded into my wordprocessor for further detailed study. ...I really appreciate the time and effort you have invested in your Bible studies and for placing them on the Internet for the benefit of others, such as myself. From what I have seen thus far, I am impressed with the spirit I see you manisfest in your writings. It certainly makes such controversial issues easier to consider. I'm sorry to admit that we are so prown to judge a message by the vessel it comes thru, and not on its own merits.

I would like to ask you a question. Please correct me if I am wrong. But it seems from what I have read thus far that you consider the coming first Rapture of the church, the Body of Christ to be an earned reward, rather than a part of the package deal that was purchased for us by our Lord Jesus Christ on Calvary's cross. That the coming first Rapture is reserved only for the church age saints that are ready and deserving of it. If that be true then how do you explain the situation and involvment of the departed saints that are already in heaven--WHETHER they are LIKEWISE deserving--that will have their part in the corresponding First Resurrection--along with the saints that are caught up in the first Rapture at that same time? It is going to take some time for me to understand this. The jury is still out. Thanks again for your time.

My reply

You understand my position. Here is what Paul said:

(omitted because it is the same as above)

> how do you explain the situation and involvment
> of the departed saints that are already in heaven

Each person will be part of the group they belong in, whether they are now on Earth or are in Heaven.

Incoming Email, Re: hello

hello. my name is...a baby christian. I gave my life to the Lord three days before the N.F.L. draft. i was drafted...God has been working in my life big time. i to am very excited about the coming of Christ. everything you say makes sense, and i too hope that we go on Pentecost. my only question to you is, in the bible it says that no one knows the day nor hour of his return? could you please respond. thank you and take care.

My reply

To accept Christ was the best decision you ever made in your whole life. It is what we were put on Earth for.

As for the no one knows the day and hour, here is something I wrote to someone else about that.

Subject: No man knows? (omitted for it is already on Pro and Con somewhere)

Incoming Email, Re: hello

thank you so much for explaining it to me. i have done my own research and findings. even though i have everything, i want to get out of here. i am so excited for His coming and the rapture. i will be alert in the days to come. take care and God bless. You have a powerful message to share may God continue with you in your journey. see you in heaven.

Incoming Email, Re: tracts

Thanks bunches for your quick response! God bless YO too, Marilyn! I sure hope that you are right about this coming May. It is all very exciting!

Incoming Email

I just heard they are sending camera's,etc. to Saturn. Do you think God will let them see any kind of sign? I already have 4 folders of your site printed out. Where will Saturn be May 1998?

My reply

The Cassini project will send a school bus-sized robotic spacecraft 2 billion miles through space to Saturn to arrive in 2004. Don't know about a sign, but they ought to get the best pictures they have ever had. They won't see the surface, however, the clouds are too thick. In May, 1998, Saturn will just be entering Aries (the Ram)....

Incoming Email

I just wanted to say that I have read through your work. I am glad some see the two raptures accuring. I have known for about 15 years now. The Lord has shown me many years ago that I will be, as you say "friend of the Bride groom " and suffer and die for his Name and help others during the Tribulation. Have you done any reasurch into the history of the "friend of the Bride groom " and what they do as thier task? It is quite interesting. I look forword to that day with great joy , to die for his name....

My reply

The best prize that can be won is to be the Bride of Christ. If I were you, I would run the race to win that.

Incoming Email, Re: Thank you

That you for your Web page. I have found it very exciting. I have to confess that I was probably one of those 5 virgins that are not paying that much attention. Feeling that once saved I was going to make the rapture whenever it happened. I think many people feel that way. Your web page has made me sit up and pay attention. I realize that I have taken God for granted most of the time and I always feel guilty when I catch myself relying on myself instead of him. It is a daily struggle to change from my old ways. Praise God for his love and grace. Thanks for your tremendous work. I know God will bless you.

Now I have one request. Have you ever written a short version of your studies? One that a child could read and understand? I only say short because of there attention span seems to be that way. I would like to give it to my children or for that matter anyone, something that would explain what is about to happen. I am not as knowledgeable as you. I can not explain what you discovered. I have tried, but I do not think I am being very successful. Becoming a Christian late in my life did not set a good example for my children. I feel great pain in my heart for anyone who is not with Christ. That pain is even greater when I think that my children could not be with Christ because of my inability to tell them of God's great gift. Of course they are at the age (teenagers) where they already know everything, and God is not interesting to them. My wife and I pray for them and we are trying to set an example, but I fear they are not saved as of yet. I thought maybe you have written something that would get there attention.

Thank you again for you studies and sharing with us, your insight into the scriptures. Forgive me for not explaining myself very well. I hope you understand what I am asking for.

My reply

> Your web page has made me sit up and pay attention.

Praise the Lord. That is what it all about. I would like to be able to reach the Laodiceans and change them into Philadelphians. They are the ones facing the open door. The Laodiceans face a closed door.

I haven't written anything so far other than my books and Web page....

Incoming Email

I believe that in the first 3-1/2 years of the Tribulation God will once again choose Israel to be His client nation. During that time a token nation will be established consisting of the 144,000, 12,000 from each tribe. Thus those Jews who are sealed in their foreheads during the first 3-1/2 years of the Tribulation will inturn conssumate the Church Age. For the church began with twevle Jews (the apostles) and the gospel was preached to the Jew first and it will end with 12 to the third power (12,000) times 12 or 144,000. Since 70 AD, when Jeruselum was overthrown by the Romans (God's divine discipline on Israel) and inturn ceased to be God's client nation, the gentiles became God's client people. But just as Israel became blind to God's word so it is with the gentiles in the latter days, and so God chooses Israel once again to be His client nation. Now during the middle of the Tribulation (The Great Tribulation), at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. The church, concluded by the 144,000, but also consisting of any gentile believers alive during that time (the mid-point of the Tribulation) will be delivered, everyone that shall be found written in the book. But as we know the dead in Christ shall rise first, so many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake. At the Bema Seat Judgement the body of Christ will either gain rewards (everlasting life) or loose rewards (shame and everlasting contempt....

Revelation 12:1-12 1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered....6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (The Great Tribulation / 3-1/2 yrs)....

The woman is the nation of Israel, and in this case I would like to point out that it is the token nation of Israel, i.e. the 144,000 sealed by God. This token nation of Israel, relative to the literal nation of Israel as a whole, is the first to become clothed with the sun, meaning that the 144,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel will hear and receive (believe) the light of God's truth (the gospel). As for the moon being under the woman's (Israel's) feet, first know that the moon represents Satan, for it too is desolate like Satan. It too, like Satan, has no light of its own, but instead counterfeits the light of the sun just as Satan, the deceiver and the angel of light, counterfeits the light of God. And just as the moon has a dark side, never seen by mankind with the exception of a few astronauts, Satan too has a dark side that he keeps hidden from mankind. He, Satan, like the moon never turns his face away from the world that he is deceiving. How interesting it is that God has even put the image of a face on the surface of the moon (the man in the moon) to allow us to understand that the woman Israel, with the moon under her feet, is identifying with Jesus Christ's victory on the cross, where The Lord Jesus Christ bruised His heal by crushing the serpent's (Satan's) head. And thus Israel has been crowned with twelve stars, because she (Israel) has become a partaker of the heavenly gift that was first revealed, here on earth, by the apostles beginning at the Day of Pentecost.

I believe that right now in the land of Israel the gospel of Jesus Christ is being heard and believd by those Jews who will constitute the 144,000. Once the last Jew is sealed by God, which I believe will take place at the end of the first 3-1/2 years of the Tribulation, then the rapture will take place.

My reply

I used to think there was a Mid-Trib Rapture, that is until I realized that Daniel 12:1,2 hinged on when the False Prophet came "to his end" (Dan. 11:45) "at the time of the end" (Dan. 11:40). The chapter division kept me from seeing the whole picture at first. What confused me was that Michael was mentioned, and in Rev. 12, he is mentioned in the middle of the Tribulation. However, at that time, he is occupied with the "war in heaven" (Rev. 12:7). He can't fight Satan and his angels and at the same time have anything else to do.

> I believe that in the first 3-1/2 years of the Tribulation God will once
> again choose Israel to be His client nation....those Jews who are sealed in their
> foreheads during the first 3-1/2 years of
> the Tribulation will inturn conssumate the Church Age.

Yes, the clock stopped for Israel on Pentecost in 30 A.D. and it will, I think, restart on Pentecost/Feast of Weeks in 2001. However, I think this Age of Grace will not end until Elul 29, 5767 (our September 12, 2007). God's Wrath is poured out on Earth as the Millennium begins on the Feast of Trumpets the next day, Tishri 1, 5768.

> Now during the middle of the
> Tribulation (The Great Tribulation), at that time shall Michael stand up,
> the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there
> shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even
> to that same time

The time of trouble, Jacob's trouble, is on the Feast of Trumpets in 2007, not in the middle of the Tribulation.

> 6 And the woman
> fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they
> should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (The Great
> Tribulation / 3-1/2 yrs).

The woman in Rev. 12:1 is Israel, and Israelite believers have to flee into the wilderness for the last 3 1/2 years of the Tribulation.

> I believe that right now in the land of Israel the gospel of Jesus Christ is
> being heard and believd by those Jews who will constitute the 144,000. Once
> the last Jew is sealed by God, which I believe will take place at the end of
> the first 3-1/2 years of the Tribulation, then the rapture will take place.

I believe the 144,000 will be sealed right at the end of the age, then the second Rapture will take place on the 2300th day of the Shortened Tribulation, just before the Wrath of God is poured out on Earth. In Ezek. 9:4f, the man clothed with linen was told to "set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite...Slay utterly." The slaying immediately followed the marking/sealing.

My heartfelt thanks to all who like my Web Site. God's wonderful blessings on you all. May we meet at the assembly in Heaven right after the Rapture.

In Christ,
Marilyn
(Mrs.) Marilyn J. Agee


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