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Greetings and Shalom in Christ Jesus. Please let me first take this opportunity to say we are sorry about your husbands illness, he is in our prayers. We thank the Lord for all of the hard work that you do and if there is anything we can do for you please let us know. Do not feel obliged to reply to this e-mail, for i wish not to put more load on you. Only one small request and that is to have the correct pronounciation of your last name.

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Easy, pronouncing "Agee" is like naming these two letters of the alphabet, A and G (AG).

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350-year-old prophecy (Jim Bramlett)
According to the February/March 1999 "End-Time News" newsletter, 350 years ago there was a Jewish Rabbi Avraham Ben Mordechai Azulai who wrote that the Jewish year 5760 will be a year of powerful judgments on the world.

We are now in the Jewish year 5759, and 5760 will begin on Rosh Hashanah, September 11, 1999, the day which at least two Bible scholars have calculated as ending exactly 6,000 years since the creation of Adam. Jim

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Insights from J.R. Church (Jim Bramlett)
In his recent letter, J.R. Church provides some fascinating Bible insights:

He says there are 248 bones that support the human body and 365 ligaments that hold everything in place. The bones represent a positive element while the ligaments represent a negative force. They total 613. "Sound familiar?" Church asks. "Rabbis have long said that when Moses ascended Mount Sinai, God gave him 248 positive laws and 365 negative laws -- a total of 613 laws in the Mosaic Covenant!"

He also describes the letters in God's holy, sacred name, YHWH (properly pronounced Yahweh, and mispronounced Jehovah, from the KJV). Based on their individual or root meanings, which he explains, the four letters in the name say, "Behold, here is the hand, behold, here is the nail."

God is awesome! Jim

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I really need some clarification from you regarding the cherubim. In your book, it appears you are stating the cherubim are the four terrestrial planets, Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars. It also appears you are stating the remaining five planets, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, are represented by the seraphim. In between the two groups is the former planet Rahab.

My problem, which I am having great difficulty finding the answer to is this: In Ezekial 10, it states that coals of fire are gathered from between the cherubim. If the asteroid belt, aka Rahab, is where the fire is gathered from, then the two "cherubim" would have to be Mars and.....Jupiter. Well, Jupiter is not a cherubim, it is a seraphim. Please, please, please clarify this for me. I know you are increasingly busy so, I will appreciate it all the more. Thank you.

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It seems that all the planets can be called cherubim. True, Ezekiel only saw four, the terrestrial planets, but Gen. 3:24 says, "he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims" (plural). The only one outside our orbit that was seen by Ezekiel was Mars (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars). Mars would be a cherub/cherubim, singular. For it to be "Cherubims," plural, it has to include at least one more planet outside Mars. Since Gen. 3:24 also mentioned the "flaming sword," which is a shard of the planet Rahab that broke apart, that explosion had already taken place. Therefore, the next planet called a cherubim had to be Jupiter. Other scriptures agree.

"He bowed (i.e., put a rainbow of ice crystals around) the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet. And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind" (II Sam. 22:10,11).

The LORD of hosts (Christ, Isa. 44:6)...dwelleth between the cherubims" (I Sam. 4:4; II Sam. 6:2). "THE LORD...sitteth between the cherubims" (i.e., between Jupiter and Uranus) (Psa. 99:2). In the pattern of the heavens, the Tabernacle, the Lord spoke to them from between the cherubims on the ends of the mercy seat covering the Ark.

In Antiquities of the Jews (VII.7), the priest Josephus said of the candlestick, it "spread itself into as many branches as there are PLANETS, including the sun among them. It terminated in seven heads, in one row, all standing parallel to one another; and these branches carried seven lamps, one by one, IN IMITATION OF THE NUMBER OF THE PLANETS. These lamps looked to the east and to the south, the candlestick being situate obliquely." That reminds me of the way I see the ecliptic. The planets rise in the east and are seen in the south as they traverse the night sky. Here in southern California, we are about the same latitude as Israel too. The lampstand stood for Sun, Mercury, Venus, EARTH, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, all spheres that can be seen with the naked eye as they travel the ecliptic.

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Well, I agree that the 2nd seal indicates the dual purpose of the Antichrist in his Federalist New World Order technique of "enforced peace" through takeover of the 3 nations or regions of the world according to Daniel. It is not just a vague war; but that destruction of an overwhelming army by a few which could very well spell the UN armies being destroyed by the EU Eurocorp armies. Soveriegnty will be lost in the Western hemisphere nations I believe; at that time. This would include those in the NAFTA region (North; Central and South America). I believe that there could very well be nuclear weapons on a limited scale in European countries; aiding in the running "underfoot"; similar to the technique used to squash 80,000 Iraquis by the tanks in the matter of a few weeks in Operation Desert Storm a few years back. I don't know if that matter of the 3 and one half years without rain can be extended beyond Israel; where the two prophets are outside in the elements preaching at that time; but it certainly will be filled with the many plagues they have the power to enforce.

As to the 7 day theory of warning before the Tribulation; I wonder if just the whole "gambit" of delayed negotiations of the Arabs and Jews and their tenative deadline; and the affairs of Serbia could bring about some sort of unilateral temporary phase in a worldwide peace agreement. This would be evident if there is to be say a 1 year interum before May, 2000 for the next 7 years of the Oslo peace accord agreements to be enforced; which makes the 2001 prediction for the treaty seem a bit odd to me for things to begin with your timing. Anyway, here's an interesting question; about 666; could it stand for conquest beginning June 6, 2006 (coincidental with "D Day"?) a year, a month and a day later; if we follow the 6th trumpet battle would be 777 (July 7, 2007); God's day?? Could be a facinating coincidence; what are your thoughts on the matter???

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> takeover of the 3 nations or regions of the world according to Daniel. It is not just
> a vague war; but that destruction of an overwhelming army by a few which could very
> well spell the UN armies being destroyed by the EU Eurocorp armies.

It is my understanding that the False Prophet will overcome three kings when he comes to power in the middle of the Tribulation. Also, I think the united nations will end up being the group in control of the world government. Whether they will be called the UN or some other name, I can't tell.

> As to the 7 day theory of warning before the Tribulation

The seven days that Noah knew exactly when the Flood would come have to do with the Rapture. There is to be a gap between the Rapture and the Tribulation, but what would tell us that it would constitute a 7-day warning?

> the 2001 prediction for the treaty seem a bit odd to me for things to
> begin with your timing.

Why isn't it logical? It is the first year of the new millennium, which starts Jan. 1, 2001.

> question; about 666; could it stand for conquest beginning June 6, 2006
> (coincidental with "D Day"?) a year, a month and a day later; if we follow
> the 6th trumpet battle would be 777 (July 7, 2007); God's day??

I can see no Biblical reason to think such.

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Re: Thoughts to ponder. Looking for response:
I am thinking about those at this website...
http://www.do-you-love-me.org/wsomers/whatsnew.html
What's New at End Time Prophetic Vision.

They have refused a few months ago to accept my prophetic insight; at least partially because I am so "closeminded" about the Rapture of the church occuring before the Tribulation. I am certainly seeing a pattern here beyond a difference of opinion. There seems to be many things which are unscriptural in interpretations of the modern day prophets of God. First off, if one is to be entirely objective and impartial about their views of such a subject (PreTribulation vs. During Tribulation Rapture or Post Tribulation theories); they shouldn't entirely exclude other viewpoints. Could you consider if the Lord would find it favorable in your wisdom to have a page like this; a posting area for the people who would have visions or dreams with the opposing viewpoint (the PreTrib Rapture?) It would be interesting to compare writings of others, to see unifying concepts and in time to verify data about international events as to their conformity or lack thereof to specific times in the next year or so particularly until Jesus returns.

Anyway, about the above mentioned website; through the concepts of many I know in this viewpoint, it seems as though a certain cult philosophy may be the end result; as no doubt true believers as well as false ones caught up in improper doctrinal beliefs may be led astray at least for a time. Surely the idea there are Apostles running around today is ludicrous. Equally insane is the concept on some of your links which would seem to indicate that we are already in the midst of the Seal judgments. I have seen people caught up in the arena of this idea being very shaky in their confidence; and this idea seems to reflect in the previous posting of yours which contains the writings of someone who seems to indicate we must have a new soul after we are judged in front of Satan in the fire of hell. This is so wrong!! What we build on gold ALREADY has the foundation of Christ; this cannot be broken. Christ was a living soul; perfect in His human nature as the Perfect Man as well as being God in Spirit. We should not take this concept too lightly. As you would agree; (Agee-that rhymes!!) when we truly are Born again we have Salvation and the Spirit guarantees as His seal of deposit that heaven is our eternal promise. The fire which we pass through at the Judgement seat is simply the presence of God; which we can experience to a limited extent whenever we are filled with the Spirit now; if we would allow God to exercise this power within our souls. He is a consuming fire; but this is not the torment of the second death; not by ANY means for we shall not be hurt at ALL by the power of the second death; not at ALL! Our souls AND bodies shall remain intact for those alive at His coming. Why can't God who created man PERFECT be able to restore through His Spirit our souls so that indeed even while on earth Jesus' command to "be ye perfect" can be a reality; even exceeding that of the Pharisees. For indeed, the old nature and new nature bring a conflict in our souls while we are alive on the earth. But if we look at life as being only evil in the things which our soul desires; then the scriptures promising BELIEVERS that they can "live life to the FULLEST" is meant only in the FUTURE tense. Christ indeed does live within all true believers; and being that He has already forgiven ALL our sins (past, present and future--until He comes) there is surely NO condemnation for those who live in Christ Jesus. NOW is the Day when we can stand in victory (the wicked will NOT be given the privilege to stand in the Judgment). Abundant life; and victory NOW is the ONLY way people are going to see; albeit it beyond our frames of dust; and our fallen nature to JESUS who is inside; molding and shaping us for our destiny above. It is the only calling suitable for the Wedding Feast. Tying this idea to the previous PreTrib. Rapture "theory" (you can guess my belief is soley in that arena); the call I believe at this time is for the Lord's coming in a time we don't expect Him. This will be the time the world is said to be acclaiming the arrival of "peace and security" as many Israeli developments and other International policies seem to be heading toward in rapid procession. I have said it before; and feel the need to KEEP hammering it home; that ONLY the wise will understand the WARNING trumpet to come. Some people consider it to be unbelievable that after the history of the church being one of episodes of blessing followed by persecution that we could possibly escape relatively unscathed; thus sealing the fulfilled promise of the great Hope of our rescue before God's wrath is released in the Seal judgments. Yet if we look to the parable of those servants who are jealous because those who begin work in the 11th hour; (like today) we see events paralleling what God seems to be doing in relation to calling a final invitation to the Wedding feast to those in the "highways and byways"; who are eligible for a "quick reward" and little time for labors in the heat of the day as many longtime believers have done. But what is the sacrifice of the Church if it has lost its true love?? And can't God do His strange work; even at the marvel of some who have written it off or say that He must continue things as they have always been; and we are destined in the Church Age to go through WORLDWIDE persecution?? What about the Restrainer holding back the "Mystery of Iniquity" until it is removed (ie. the Rapture). You know the verses about prayer to escape "all things which shall come to pass", so we can stand before the Son of Man (note: STAND!) God knows our state; despite our wayward condition He has offered an ETERNALLY binding sacrifice which we can praise Him for forever. We never; NONE of us deserve this, but because He loves us surely we need not fear God anymore....

(I guess since I'm agreeing with you I am putting you in a better mood than my earlier letters). I don't like to be entirely predictable; after all we are all a bit different in temperament since we all are created as individuals; what's wrong with that?? It isn't a problem for God to reconcile these "problems"; in fact to me one of the greatest miracles is that we shall all get along (I think) in heaven someday. Agape love from above

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I tried the URL. It said that no such was listed. Maybe their server is temporarily down. Anyway, I do not want to post a lot of dreams. They can be misleading. God does speak in dreams at times, but Satan tries to throw in a lot of junk so that we won't know what is right and what is wrong. I want to stick to the rock-hard truth, the Bible. Satan can't interfere with that. I am very skeptical when someone claims to be a prophet. Jer. 23:25,26 warns, "I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed. How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart." We have to compare everything with Scripture to see if it is true or not. Otherwise, we leave the door open for Satan to toy with us.

> What about the Restrainer holding back the
> "Mystery of Iniquity" until it is removed (ie. the Rapture).

We are the salt that is holding back the growth of leaven (evil). When we are taken out of the loaf, it will rise to world church proportions. In Mt. 13:33, Jesus said, The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a women (i.e., religious group) took, and hid in three measures of meal (Gentiles, Jews and the Church), till the whole was leavened."

There are three 2000-year ages in Time, the Age of the Gentiles, the Age of the Jews and the Age of the Church. The evil unleashed upon the world with Adam's sin will leaven the whole loaf at the end of this age. Many know that this age is coming to and end. They also realize that the Age of the Jews has an ending along with the end of our age. What I think they fail to see is that all three ages will have this extension so that judgment can fall on unbelievers of all peoples alike.

I Cor. 10:11,12 says, "Now all these things happened unto them (Israel) for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends (plural) of the world (lit., ages) are come." In earlier days, the extended end of the first age was deferred. In Dan. 9, we see that the last seven years of the Age of the Jews was deferred. The extended ends of those two earlier ages will run together with the end of our age and end in judgment.

> You know the verses about prayer to escape "all things which shall come to
> pass", so we can stand before the Son of Man (note: STAND!)

Yes, stand. Luke 21:36 says, "WATCH ye therefore, and PRAY ALWAYS, that ye may be ACCOUNTED WORTHY to ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS (the Tribulation) that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." The word for escape is EKPHEUGO, "escape OUT OF or AWAY FROM." We get our word EXIT from the prefix, "EK." Strong's gives "vanish" as an alternate meaning for EKPHEUGO. From ESCAPE to VANISH, not the slightest hint of "survive through."

In the Preview of the Rapture, Rev. 1:12,13 says, "And I turned to see the voice (Christ's voice like a trumpet saying "Come up hither," Rev. 1:10; 4:1) that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks (the seven churches, Rev. 1:20); And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle." John saw us all in Heaven right after the Rapture standing around Christ. Agape

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Blessings to you Marilyn! I am the lady who is going to make you fudge when we get into heaven.....just wanted you to know I haven't forgotten! You continue to be such a delight to me and my family, and the information learned on your site is being passed on to so many people in need of Jesus. Your Spiritual gifts, especially kindness and patience flow out of you in your writing, and you are truly an inspiration to us to get ready and to stay ready for our beloved's call.

I pray for your family, and still look forward to meeting you in heaven! Love in Christ

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Thank you. You made me smile in spite of my back pain this morning. When we all get to Heaven, what a day that will be. I cry when I'm happy sometimes, so I don't know if I'll laugh or cry initially. Wonder if I'll be red eyed? or if that kind of a thing will be of the past? I know I'm going to be mighty glad I'm there. It can't be too soon. I thank the Lord he made it possible. What a blessed hope we have.

I feel sorry for those who think they have to experience everything up to the seventh trumpet judgment. What a thing to look forward to. Ugh! People that are kept alive by medicine will die when they can no longer buy it, and they will be the lucky ones. The Tribulation will be the worst seven years since there was a nation. I want no part of it. I really appreciate that the Lord has planned a way for us to escape all these things.

I appreciate your prayers for us. Ed felt some better yesterday. Agape

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The "Millennium Bug" Computer Problem in the Bible Codes
http://www.aristotle.net/~bhuie/code2r.htm

MILLENNIUM (red letters on white) [the latter must refer to the matrix]
"Millennium" in Hebrew (aleph-lamed-pey-shin-nun-hey) is encoded in the Torah at an ELS of 23, beginning in Numbers 7:62 and ending in Numbers 7:60.

BUG (light pink letters on blue)
The Hebrew slang word for "bug" (cheth-resh-koph) is encoded at an ELS of 18 (in Numbers 7:61) and at an ELS of 154 (beginning in Numbers 7:69 and ending in Numbers 7:61). Both occurrences use the same final "koph."

YEAR (blue letters on light blue)
The Hebrew word for "year" (shin-nun-hey) is highlighted twice in the matrix, both at an ELS of 1. It is found in Numbers 7:53 and and in Numbers 7:65.

2000 (black letters on light blue)
The Hebrew year "5760" (tav-shin-samek), which corresponds to the year "2000," is highlighted twice in the matrix, both at an ELS of 38. Once it begins in Numbers 7:56 and ends in Numbers 7:55; the next occurrence begins in Numbers 7:68 and ends in Numbers 7:67.

COMPUTER (pink letters on dark gray)
Underneath "millennium" is the Hebrew word for "computer" (mem-cheth-shin- beth). This word is found at an ELS of 17, beginning in Numbers 7:65 and ending in Numbers 7:63.

PROBLEM (white letters on blue/green)
Beginning with the final beth in "computer" and running diagonally upward, the Hebrew word for "problem" (beth-ayin-yod-hey) appears. It is found at an ELS of 112, beginning in Numbers 7:63 and ending in Numbers 7:55.

CODE (yellow letters on purple)
The Hebrew word for "code" (lamed-koph-dalet-dalet) runs vertically downward in the middle of the matrix. It is found at an ELS of 88, beginning in Numbers 7:57 and ending in Numbers 7:63.

DESTRUCTION (yellow letters on blue)
The Hebrew word for "destruction" (hey-cheth-resh-beth-hey) appears twice at an ELS of 4, first beginning in Numbers 7:55 and ending in Numbers 7:56, and next beginning in Numbers 7:67 and ending in Numbers 7:68. Both times this code appears, it crosses the tav of the year "2000" codes in exactly the same way.

USA (white letters on black)
The Hebrew acronym for the United States (aleph-resh-hey-beth) appears in the matrix at an ELS of 173, beginning in Numbers 7:54 and ending in Numbers 7:67.

GOVERNMENT (yellow letters on black)
The Hebrew word for "goverment" (mem-mem-shin-lamed-hey) appears at an ELS of 239, beginning in Numbers 7:53 and ending in Numbers 7:75.

BRING DOWN, FAIL (yellow letters on green)
The Hebrew word for "bring down" or "fail" (hey-pey-yod-lamed) is found at an ELS of 109, beginning in Numbers 7:74 and ending in Numbers 7:67.

BANK (white letters on purple)
The Hebrew word for "bank" (beth-nun-koph) appears at an ELS of 23, beginning in Numbers 7:60 and ending in Numbers 7:61.

POWER (white letters on red)
The Hebrew word for "power" (kaph-vav-cheth) is found at an ELS of 46, beginning in Numbers 7:61 and ending in Numbers 7:59.

GRID (black letters on pink)
The Hebrew word for "grid" (resh-shin-tav) is found at an ELS of 23, beginning in Numbers 7:57 and ending in Numbers 7:58.

ELECTRICITY, ELECTRIC (blue letters on yellow)
The Hebrew word for "electricity" (cheth-shin-mem-lamed) appears at an ELS of 154, beginning in Numbers 7:68 and ending in Numbers 7:57, with the initial cheth being the second letter of the second occurrence of "destruction." Additionally, using the root word for "electricity," the word for "electrical" or "electric" (cheth-shin-mem-lamed-yod) can be found beginning in Numbers 7:68 and ending in Numbers 7:54.

TELECOMMUNICATION (black letters on orange)
The Hebrew word for "telecommunication" (beth-zayin-koph) appears at an ELS of 38, beginning in Numbers 7:60 and ending in Numbers 7:59.

CUT OFF, SEVER, DISRUPT (black letters on yellow)
The Hebrew word for "cut off," "sever," or "disrupt" (lamed-nun-tav-koph), which relates specifically to electricity or telecommunications, appears at an ELS of 154, beginning in Numbers 7:71and ending in Numbers 7:59.

DISRUPTIVE (red letters on light green)
The Hebrew word for "disruptive" (mem-shin-beth-shin) is found at an ELS of 45, beginning in Numbers 7:55 and ending in Numbers 7:59.

PANIC (black letters on dark pink)
The Hebrew word for "panic" (beth-hey-lamed-hey) appears at an ELS of 199, beginning in Numbers 7:55 and ending in Numbers 7:68.

PANIC, TERROR, DREAD (black letters on light green)
Another Hebrew word which means "panic," "terror," or "dread" (aleph-yod-mem- hey) appears at an ELS of 22, beginning in Numbers 7:61 and ending in Numbers 7:59. The final hey is the second letter of the other Hebrew word for "panic."

FAMINE (dark red letters on gray)
The biblical Hebrew word for "famine" (resh-ayin-beth-yod-nun) is found at an ELS of 67; the middle "beth" is the last letter of "computer" and the first letter of "problem." "Famine" begins in Numbers 7:66 and ends in Numbers 7:60.

HUNGER, STARVATION (white letters on maroon)
Beginning next to the final "koph" in "cut off" and just above "millennium," the Hebrew word for "hunger" or "starvation" (resh-ayin-beth) appears. It is found at an ELS of 65, beginning in Numbers 7:59 and ending in Numbers 7:55.

PLAGUE (light blue letters on maroon)
The Hebrew word for "plague" (nun-gimel-ayin) appears toward the bottom of the matrix at an ELS of 52, beginning in Numbers 7:71 and ending in Numbers 7:73.

DEATH (white letters on green)
The Hebrew word for "death" (mem-vav-tav) appears at an ELS of 45, beginning in Numbers 7:59 and ending in Numbers 7:61.

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