Pro and Con 279
i just read you're page and i really was interested, and it moved me, to thinking i need to make some changes(thats kind of funny). but i have never been to a baptist church in my life. i have been to catholic, jehovah's witnesses, and i was raised a mormon. i no longer attend any church because i don't know what i believe in. to the mormons i am an apostate. but i don't know maybe that church is true, maybe the jehovahs witnesses are the true church, i don't think they are but i don't know. there is no way to prove anything, to my knowledge. if the world is going to end how does God expect me to find this out?
there are so many religions so many different philosophies. well i know that i would feel better if i repented right now. but to who do i go confess to the catholic father,the mormon bishop,the jehovahs witness brother or elder, go to your church and confess to the people?
what if i have sinned only against a mormon principle, and every other church believes it is not a sin? what if i don't go back to the mormon church, in their book, i go to hell?
i just want happiness, and to know, i want that for everybody. i think i believe in christ but maybe i am just saying that because i was tought to believe in him, and it has been ingrained in my mind almost every week since i was a baby, and i don't want to go to hell.what if i make myself believe in him, just so i can have a better outcome? well you probably can't help me, but do you know how i can start repenting? that would relieve my conscience.
My reply > i don't know what i believe in....there is no way to prove anything, to my knowledge.
> if the world is going to end how does God expect me to find this out?
If you got a new computer, would you read the manual? If you got a new high powered stereo, would you read the instruction book on how to hook up the tuner, amplifier and speakers? If you have to take a test, would you study for it?
This life is a test, and God gave you a manual so you could pass the test. You say that "there is no way to prove anything, to my knowledge" when the Bible is the way to prove everything you need to know to get an A+ on your test. But how will you know if you don't read it for yourself?
There are errors in Catholic, Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormon teachings. How will you know which is truth and which is error if you don't read God's Word to find out the truth? Each of the three would very much like to brainwash you and make you think that their way is the only way that is right. If you follow their line of thinking, you will end up in error too because you have no background against which to judge what you are told. They can lead you astray without your realizing it. It would be as the Bible says, the blind leading the blind and they both fall into the ditch.
Catholics teach the right things about Christ, but throw in other errors, including Mary worship, idols, Pergatory, infallibility of the Pope, etc. In their list of the ten commandments, they have omitted the second commandment about not making images and split thou shalt not covet into two. They are now about to declare Mary as Mediatrix. I Tim. 2:5 says, there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Only the Bible can keep us on the right track.
Jehovah's Witnesses do not teach the right things about Christ. They teach the falsehood that Christ was Michael the Archangel. Both Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons are cults. Leave all this behind and grab a Bible. Jesus said that the truth will set you free, and it will. God has proved his Word true. His prophecies have all come true 100%. The Bible is the only rock-hard truth we have. It is our anchor.
First, you need to find out how to get off of the slippery slide that ends up in Hell. The "soul that sinneth, it shall die" (Ezek. 18:4). We have all sinned and therefore need a Saviour. To find out how to be saved, turn to Romans 10:9,10. It says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. II Cor. 5:18 says, "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself."
Heb. 1:1-3 says, "GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by ("en," in) his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of ALL things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON, and upholding ALL things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high."
Heb. 2:16 says, "For verily he (the pre-existant Christ) took NOT on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham."
John 1:1-3,14 (KJV) says, "IN the beginning was ('eimi,' always was) the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. ALL things were made by him...And the Word was made flesh (i.e., of the seed of Abraham), and dwelt among us."
The Jehovah's Witnesses will tell you that "The Word was a god." They will show you that their New World Translation says, "In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god."
They will cite the Emphatic Diaglott, by Wilson, as proof that this is correct. Yet the Emphatic Diaglott translation plainly says in English, "the LOGOS was God." Under the Greek words "kai theos en o logos," it has "and a god was the Word." However, Colwell's Rule of Greek Grammar says that a definite predicate nominative takes the article when it follows the verb; it does NOT do so when it precedes the verb as in John 1:1.
The proof the Jehovah's Witnesses rely on is really proof that their claim is false. Wilson correctly translated John 1:1 in the Emphatic Diaglott as "the LOGOS was God."
I have shown that to Jehovah's Witnesses when they came to my door. Do you think they believe it? Oh no. Just about everything they have been taught would fall, for it is built on that foundation. They think that surely their teachers can't be wrong, surely their teachers know more than I do. They can't explain it, but they can't let go of what they have been told, either. Brainwashed, helpless to explain it, they change the subject rather than let the truth soak in. Soon they are off to talk to someone that is not such a hard nut to crack.
You see, I KNOW that Christ is "the Almighty" himself (Rev. 1:8). Isa. 9:6 says, "For unto us a child is born (inheriting his human nature from his mother), unto us a son is given (inheriting his deity from his Father): and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Not only do the Mormons put "The Book of Mormon Another Testament of Jesus Christ" on a par with the Bible (a big no-no, Rev. 22:18), it too says, "concerning the coming of one Jesus Christ, a Son of God" (Alma 36:17). Christ is not just a Son of God. He is God incarnate. There is a world of difference.
Christ took the punishment due you and me. If we believe in him, our past sins are wiped off the books. We are given a fresh start. If you will accept Christ as your Saviour, pray and tell God that you accept his Son Jesus Christ. God knows your heart, and if you really mean it, Christ will baptize you with his Holy Spirit. From that day on, you will be a son of God, by adoption, part of God's family.
Galatians 4:5-7 says, "when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the ADOPTION OF SONS. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ."
When you were born on this Earth, you were the son of your earthly father and mother. When you are saved, you are born again, born into God's family. At the Rapture or at death, you will be whisked to your heavenly home. You can have the best of two worlds, an earthly life and an eternal life in Heaven, as "an heir of God through Christ."
I Timothy 3:16 says, "God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
> well i know that i would feel better if i repented right now. but to who do i go
> confess to the catholic father,the mormon bishop,the jehovahs witness brother or
> elder, go to your church and confess to the people?
Repenting means changing your mind, turning around. Right now, if you will accept Christ as your Saviour, every sin you ever committed will be forgiven. You do not have to go anywhere. You can accept Christ right where you are.
Later, if you sin, you must use I John 1:9, confess that sin TO GOD, to bring that sin under the blood of Christ. If you confess known sins to Him, he is faithful and just to cleanse you of "all unrighteousness."
> what if i don't go back to the mormon church, in their book, i go to hell?
Since they do not teach the truth, you could go to hell if you do go back. First, accept Christ. Second, read the New Testament for yourself. Then you will have enough of a background to know if any church group is teaching the truth or not.
> i don't want to go to hell.what if i make myself believe in him, just so i can have
> a better outcome?
What is wrong with that? You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Take a chance. Jesus came to save you from Hell. Let him do it. He died an awful death to take the punishment due you and me. Don't let it be in vain. He bought you with a terrible price. You owe him your acceptance. Along with saving you from Hell, he will give you eternal life with Him in Heaven, a better place. That is worth whatever it takes.
Please write me back and tell me you accept Christ as your own personal Saviour. Salvation is a free gift from the Lord, but you have to exercise your will and accept it for it to become yours. If you don't, you're still on that slippery slide that ends in Hell.
Incoming Email Re: The timing of the rapture
I thoroughly enjoy your website and read it every day! I heard your wakeup call last year and am trying to keep myself ready! I have been studying the rapture for the last year for clues of the timing! In Jeremiah 51:33 I believe mentions the destruction of the daughter of babylon(The USA)., there is so much evidence in Jeremiah that points to this being the USA. Verse 33 says-:The daughter of babylon is like a threshing floor, when it is time to thresh her(chastise her), YET A LITTLE WHILE AND THE TIME OF HER HARVEST(Rapture of the bride) IS COME.
The wording YET A LITTLE WHILE is also found in Hebrews 10:35-37, "Therefore do not cast away confidence which has great reward. For you have need of endurance so that after you have done the will of God,you may receive the promise.FOR YET A LITTLE WHILE, and he who's coming and will not tarry."
These verses seem to me to imply that there will come the destruction of the USA before the harvest(rapture of the bride).
The prophecies of Dimitru Duduman also state that the bride won't be raptured until after the destruction of the USA in July 99 before the tribulation begins. This is also the approximate time that nostradamus has predicted the USA's destruction. Now with the news that the Antichrist will be in power next march 2000 it is starting to add up! Just thought it was interesting!
My reply I'm glad that you are staying ready. That is most important as the Rapture draws nigh.
Hebrews 10:35-37 (KJV), "Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward. For you have need of patience (Rev. 3:10), that, after ye have done the will of God, you might receive the promise. FOR YET A LITTLE WHILE (mikron, a small space of time), and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry (chronizo, delay)." I'm delighted that it is a "little while," not a long time. Any way I look at it, the Rapture cannot be far off.
> In Jeremiah 51:33 I believe mentions the destruction of the daughter of babylon(The USA)
To me, the daughter of Babylon is the Babylon that is being restored on the Euphrates River in Iraq. Jer. 51:35 says, "The violence done to me and to my flesh be upon Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and my blood upon the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say." Remember the Scud missiles Iraq hit Israel with in Desert Storm?
Verses 42-45 say, "The sea (a tidal wave) is come up upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof. Her cities are a desolation, a dry land, and a wilderness, a land wherein no man dwelleth, neither doth any son of man pass thereby. And I will punish Bel (the False Prophet) in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up (Satan): and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him (he will be deposed from office as leader over the World Government): yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall. My people, go ye out of the midst of her (Rev. 18:4), and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD."
What causes the tidal wave? Rev. 18:21 tells us: "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone (an asteroid), and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all." This has not yet taken place, but it will when the "great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp" (Rev. 8:10) strikes when the third trumpet judgment hits.
I don't believe the prophecies of Dimitru Duduman or Nostradamus, only the Bible.
Incoming Email Dear Marilyn, It can't be too soon indeed. Truly.
It seems that last year at this time I was anxious for the rapture and had great expetancy. This year, I grow weary of the trying of my faith and patience. It seems as though the battles have become so intense and the pressures of this existence so overwhelming, that I lose sight of the purpose of this "trying".
I can empathize with you Marilyn. My wife's battle with MS is extremely intense at this time. This in addition to my own maladies, I'd sure like the rapture to be this May (or sooner). And financially it's really ugly. Yet, here in the U.S. the worldly prosper.
It can't be too soon, indeed.
In all my years of prayer and meditation, I have yet to "hear" from the Lord, never a "thus sayeth the Lord", no "vision", and no dreams other than my own bad ones. It confounds me when others say they have. I would have thought as the end time and rapture approached, those of us in the body of Christ would have these as stated in the Word. (You know - old men will have visions, young men will dream dreams").
Much of the discouragement comes from our own camp. From those that insist that pre-tribulation rapture is so much pie-in-the-sky. Your constant reminder of the time of testing for the bride of Christ and that it should have an ending, offers constant focus during these times. Your positive insights inspire me to continue on in this hope. I pray that He strengthens and keeps us
However, I do bring Him to remberance, His own word, ..."that hope deferred makes the heart weary". (Isa 43:26: Put me in remembrance: let us plead together: declare thou, that thou mayest be justified).
Thank you. Ever hopeful. In Him.
My reply > the battles have become so intense and the pressures of this existence so
> overwhelming, that I lose sight of the purpose of this "trying".
This being sifted in a sieve is no fun, but we can't let the cares of this life engulf us so that we do not bring forth fruit (Mt. 13:22). Jesus said for us to take up our cross and follow him. He also said to cast our cares on him. Lean on him. What we go through is nothing compared with what he went through for us. You are not alone. I hear from many that the trials are especially hard this year, and they have been for us too, but hang on, the time is SHORT.
Hebrews 10:35-37 says, "Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward ('the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus,' Phil. 3:14, i.e., the Rapture). For you have need of patience (Rev. 3:10), that, after ye have done the will of God, you might receive the promise (to be kept from the Tribulation, Rev. 3:10). FOR YET A LITTLE WHILE (mikron, a small space of time), and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry (chronizo, delay)." It is just a "LITTLE while," not a long time. The Rapture can't be far off.
> My wife's battle with MS is extremely intense at this time.
I am so sorry. Did you see the warning about the Aspartame danger? My muscle spasms and headaches are less now that I have cut it out. It is not the whole cause, but it evidently was adding greatly to my woes.
> old men will have visions, young men will dream dreams
Some people take this out of the proper order. Look at Joel 2:27. The Lord says, "ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel." That is the Second Advent. Then he says, "And it shall come to pass AFTERWARD (after the Second Advent), that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions."
You see, in that day, Satan and the demons will be in prison and cannot interfere. People will know for sure that it is of God. Now, false prophets abound. God acts, and Satan acts. It is hard to sort it all out. Everything has to be compared carefully with Scripture. If even one part fails to jibe with Scripture, it is not of God. He don't make mistakes. Satan is the author of confusion. He is very busy today, for he knows he does not have much time left. He is desperate to confuse mankind.
> Your positive insights inspire me to continue on in this hope.
> I pray that He strengthens and keeps us
I'm glad I can inspire you to keep on keeping on. Father, you know what we are going through. Wrap us in your everlasting arms and comfort us and give us the strength we need to be overcomers. In Jesus' Name, Amen. Agape
Incoming Email Thank you so much... God bless you.
Your answer was what I expected, although I wanted confirmation. The instructions for the ark of the covenant have been on my mind quite a bit lately. In looking at the instructions, it may be that they were written so as not to reveal the true shape. It is interesting to think about, nonetheless.
I suppose I began thinking a bit differently about this after rereading your section regarding the new Jerusalem. The dimensions are a cube but, you pointed out that those are also the dimensions of a sphere, a planet, if you will.
Well, that started me thinking about the dimensions of the Ark. Instead of viewing it as a box, I began to draw it as a sphere. Now this sphere turned out to be rather elongated. So, what is the only planet shaped not in a circle but rather more like an oval? Saturn. Then the instructions command to put on a crown. Well, crown can actually mean around, as in encircling, as in the ring of Saturn. God never gave the height measurement for the lid and, I think that is important. Just the length and width. So, I am visualizing the lid, or mercy-seat, as fitting appropriately with the shape of the main Ark. Then God commands that two cherubs be made of beaten gold. Well, beaten gold can mean knotted-up or rounded. So, make these spheres. And, they are to be placed on the ends, with their wings spread high above covering the lid. This is where I got stuck. So, thank you for the push. There are only two other planets that I know of that have "wings": Jupiter and Uranus. Both planets have a ring system like Saturn, although not nearly as grand and almost impossible to see even with regular optics. Picture it in your mind. It would rather look like two angels covering the Ark. Another clue that the Ark might represent Saturn come from the tablets to be placed inside. Although not stated, so, this is just a thought, the mountain where Moses saw God, had under the feet of God stone like the appearance of sapphire. Some say, again, not stated in scripture, that God's commands were written on blue star sapphire stone and placed in the Ark. I believe the reason they say the blue star sapphire is because of the color as well as when looking at this type of star sapphire, it literally radiates a six pointed star. And, of course, if you add a couple of lines, it's the Star of David. It really is beautiful. There are only four stones I know of that will make this star. Anyway, the other clue is that God states that between the two cherubs He will meet and speak with His people. So, where is God? On the planet between the two winged planets/cherubs, Saturn.
Also, the rings. Rings can also mean signs, like insignia. And, rings are round. Where were the tribes camped around the Tabernacle? To the four compass directions.And the signs for those directions were also the signs for the, first four terrestrial planets, Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars. And, where were these four "rings" located on the Ark? They may have been located under the ring of the Ark, which is where they are in orbit, under Saturn. The staves or sticks that had to go through the ring to carry it is also interesting. First, the wood used is different from that to be used on the Ark. Second, the word here looks at carving. Well, sticks don't need a lot of carving unless they are going to have a rather non-linear shape. The color of the wood was also probably dark brown or black.
The Ark might have represented, if originally in this shape, a continual reminder to His people that He was real, that He was near. He is real. Hear is near.
I am still trying to find your two books Heaven Found and Exit 2007. I just moved and can't find them. So, if you already covered this in one of your books, I just forgot. Just some thoughts. Marilyn, God bless you, your family and your work. Agape
My reply Thanks for sharing your additional insight with me. I wondered why Voyager found faint rings around Jupiter and Uranus. Now, you have shown me why. It ties in beautifully. The Ark was symbolic. It would not have had to be literally made in this shape, but we could still understand what it represented, as you have demonstrated.
> Where were the tribes camped around the Tabernacle?
In "Antiquities of the Jews," Bk 3.XII.5, Josephus gave us some information about the camp that I find very interesting. Think not of the camp as a square, but of a circle. It pictures Saturn and its many rings so well, looking like the ridges on a phonograph record. It may even indicate the spokes Voyager photographed.
Josephus said, "When they set up the tabernacle, they received it into the midst of their camp, three of the tribes pitching their tents on each side of it; and roads were cut through the midst of these tents. It was like a well-appointed market; and everything was there ready for sale in due order; and all sorts of artificers were in the shops; and it resembled nothing so much as a city that sometimes was movable, and sometimes fixed. The priests had the first places about the tabernacle; then the Levites, who, because their whole multitude was reckoned from thirty days old, were twenty-three thousand eight hundred and eighty males; and, during the time that the cloud stood over the tabernacle, they thought proper to stay in the same place, as supposing that God there inhabited among them; but when that removed, they journeyed also."
The Levitical cities were also round, with a central circle containing The City. Outside of that was another concentric circle. Between those two circles were The Suburbs. Farther out yet, was an outer circle, with the fields and vineyards in between the middle and outer circles. God has sprinkled clues all over the place. We must be alert to be able to pick up on them.
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