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Bobby Dill wrote: (
This was sent first to my friend Bill who knows alot about Bible Codes and also to some of you on my list.

Hi Bill, I just looked up Arafat and found him listed 7 time just searching from 1 - 100 skip distance. The closest skip distance of 7 in 2 Sam. 3:14. Along with his name, I found the following words, alarm, confusion, panic, scare, trepidation, murmur, sickness, adequate, apposite, becoming, congruous, consonant, decorous, felicitous, fitting, germane, bluffer, captives, cheat, chisler, deceitful, fake-fraudulent-phony-rogue-or swindler. All of these were found in that one verse alone, didn't have time to check out the other passages yet. A Pretty impressive list of (choice descriptions) of Arafat. On word I thought you might know is Hashabiah also there. Found Happy, that must of been a fluke. lol

I also looked for the date of May 4, but didn't find it if I did it right. I just wish I knew Hebrew a little. lol

My reply

Thanks for sharing this with me. What does Hashabiah mean?

Have you looked for Sivan 6, 5759 (May 21,1999), Sivan 7, 5759 (May 22, 1999), Shavuot (Pentecost), Natzal, Shilhuv (Rapture)?

You mentioned 2 Sam. 3:14. It is interesting. Before David (type of Christ) became king, "David sent messengers...saying, Deliver ('nathan,' COME, BRING FORTH, BRING HITHER, LIFT UP) me my wife MICHAL" (which means who is it that has all, who is perfect or complete, or the whole is water). Reinforces the command to be filled with the Holy Spirit, doesn't it? Michal is a shortened form of Michael (who is like God?). This sounds like it pictures the Pre-Trib Rapture. David had much tribulation before he became king. Yet, he called Michal to be his wife before his tribulation.

Let's think back a little. Saul had two daughters. They might represent the Laodiceans and the Philadelphians. See what you think. After David had slain Goliath, Saul proposed to give David his firstborn daughter, Merab. However, when time came for the marriage, she was given to another. It appears that MERAB HAD NO LOVE FOR DAVID. But "MICHAL Saul's daughter LOVED DAVID" (I Sam. 18:20). Does Merab (he that fights, or disputes) represent Israel, and Michal (who has all, is complete, perfect, the whole is water) the Holy Spirit filled Church?

Eph. 5:25-27 says, "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."

Saul gave David Michal after having him slay a hundred Philistines (he slew 200). "And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife. And Saul saw and knew that THE LORD WAS WITH DAVID, and that Michal Saul's daughter LOVED HIM" (I Sam. 18:27,28). Later, Saul (death, or hell) sought to kill David (beloved), son of Jesse (who is), "So MICHAL LET DAVID DOWN THROUGH A WINDOW: and he went, and fled, and escaped" (I Sam. 19:12). This could be a picture of the one who loves Christ being in Heaven while he goes down to tend to other things.

David in rejection gathered his mighty men. Do they represent the 144,000 of Rev. 7:1-8? David was given "the shewbread, that was taken from before the LORD, to put hot bread in the day when it was taken away" (I Sam. 21:6) and GOLIATH'S SWORD (v. 9). When we see Christ in the Preview of the Rapture, he has a SWORD "Rev. 1:16.

Later, David could have killed Saul, but "David took the spear and the cruse of water from Saul's bolster...Then David went over to the other side, and stood on the top of an hill AFAR OFF; A GREAT SPACE BEING BETWEEN THEM" (i.e., great space between Heaven and Earth) (I Sam. 26:12,13). Saul said, "I HAVE PLAYED THE FOOL" (i.e., Satan, now "the god of this world," II Cor. 4:4) (I Sam. 26:21). David then dwelt in the land of the Philistines "a full year and four months" (I Sam. 27:7).

After that, Saul consulted the witch of En-dor, saying, "Bring me up Samuel (heard of God or asked of God)" (I Sam. 28:11). He may be a type of Moses being allowed to come back to prophesy during the first half of the Tribulation.

Samuel was allowed to return from the dead to tell Saul, "the LORD hath rent the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour, even to David: Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD...Moreover the LORD will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines: and to morrow shalt thou and thy sons be with me" (I Sam. 28:17-19). He was. I Sam. 31:4 says, "Saul took a sword, and fell upon it." His three sons also died.

David was told that he was "AS AN ANGEL OF GOD" (i.e., as Christ, the true "angel of the LORD") (I Sam 29:9). David rescued his two wives, Ahinoam (beauty and comliness of the brother, or brother of motion) and Abigail (the joy of the father) (I Sam. 30:5,18). Does this picture the Pre-Wrath Rapture and the preservation of the remnant of Israel as the Day of Wrath begins?

At Hebron (society, friendship), "the men of Judah came, and there they anointed David king over the house of Judah" (II Sam. 2:4). "And the time that David was king in Hebron over the house of Judah was seven years and six months"

This is pretty close to the length of the shortened Tribulation--Feast of Weeks, 5761, 5762, 5763, 5764, 5765, 5766, 5767, plus six months is fairly near Tishri 1, 5768. If you started with Nisan 1, the beginning of the official Regnal year, it would be exact.

(II Sam. 2:11). All this was preliminary--"To translate the kingdom from the house of Saul, and to set up the throne of David over Israel and over Judah" (II Sam. 3:10).

Then David said, "Deliver me my wife Michal" (II Sam. 3:14).

II Sam. 5:1,3,4 says, "THEN came all the tribes of Israel to David unto Hebron, and spake, saying, Behold, we are THY BONE AND THY FLESH...So all the ELDERS of Israel CAME TO THE KING TO HEBRON (society, friendship); and...they anointed David king over Israel. David was THIRTY years old when he began to reign, and he reigned FORTY years."

It seems significant that Michal was given to David earlier. Then he had to be let down out of a window (I Sam. 19:12), as if she was in Heaven and he had to go below to tend to other things. After Saul was dead and David was king over Israel and Judah, he called for her. Is this a picture of the Bride of Christ being Raptured, but having to wait until after the Coronation to be called to the assembly for the Marriage of the Lamb?

Mt. 24:31 says, "he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other."

At the same time the Church is gathered in Heaven, the Tribulation saints are gathered from the earth. Mk. 13:27 says, "And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH to the uttermost part of HEAVEN."

Since I think Christ's Coronation Day is Tishri 1, 5768, our Sept. 13, 2007 (5728 [1967] + 40 = 5768), last year, I wondered if the 30 years also applied (5728 + 30 = 5758). That was our 1998, to which most time clues seemed to point. I thought 5758 + 10 = 5768 (1997/8 + 10 = 2007/8). However, someone pointed out that ten years counted by inclusive reckoning would be (1) 5759, (2) 5760, (3) 5761, (4) 5762, (5) 5763, (6) 5764, (7) 5765, (8) 5766, (9) 5767, and (10) 5768. There still may be an application that is echoed in Rev. 2:10's "ye shall have tribulation ten days."

If Michal and David were engaged the customary 12 months to prove that she was a virgin, it would tally with the fact that Queen Esther was purified 12 months before being taken to the king (Esth. 2:12). Types are sometimes rather vague, but close enough to help us understand. At any rate, it would have taken Michal awhile to come to David in the first place. Mull it over and see what you think all this signifies.

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...I've been reading your books and studying this whole end-time Bible prophecy matter. I sure like the idea of a first rapture before the tribulation; however, I am a bit puzzled by a few scriptures. Please help me with the following questions:

1. Do you say that the first rapture that which is written about in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17? If not, please correct me.

1Thes 4:15-17 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (KJV)

2. If the answer to question #1 is, yes, then is it reasonable to see this passage also describing the "first resurrection" (since the dead in Christ are raised) as mentioned in Rev 20:6? If not, please explain why not.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (KJV)

3. Will the "mark of the beast" be instituted during the tribulation?

4. If the answer to question #3 is, yes, then please explain when those, who refuse to worship the beast, his image, or take his mark, will be resurrected?

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (KJV)

Here is my problem: if those who refused to worship the beast are beheaded, and if the rapture (with the resurrection of the dead in Christ) has already taken place before the advent of the beast and his mark, how can those beheaded souls partake in the first resurrection and reign with Christ for a thousand years?

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (KJV)

I am unable to reconcile the above questions and scriptures with a pre-tribulation, pre-beast, pre-mark-of-the-beast rapture/resurrection.

I do have a possible solution. Perhaps the first rapture only involves those "Philadelphian" Christians who are alive on the face of earth, i.e., no dead Christians are raised. Surely over the past 1970 or so years there were many "Laodicean" Christians who died. Why would they be included in the first rapture? If they would were alive today, they would be excluded. And if Revelation is written with the rapture "at hand", then the letters to the churches are written to living Christians at that point in time (rapture at hand) - the dead are not reading Revelation. The dead will wait until the second rapture which will be the first resurrection. The first shall be last and the last shall be first?

Thank you for your help. In service to the King of Kings,
Pastor ----

My reply

> 1. Do you say that the first rapture that which is written about in 1
> Thessalonians 4:15-17?...

Yes, I Thess. 4:13-18 is the first Rapture. The passage in I Cor. 15:51,52 is the second Rapture. At the time of the first assembly trump (Nu. 10:2-4), it is as the days of Noah. No fire falls, only rain, symbol of the Spirit of God. In Hosea 6:3, the LORD "shall come unto us as the rain."

The second Rapture, the "last trump," is as the days of Lot. "But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all" (Lu. 17:29).

> 2. If the answer to question #1 is, yes, then is it reasonable to see this
> passage also describing the "first resurrection"

Yes, but there are ranks in the first resurrection. Both Raptures are part of the first resurrection. I Cor. 15:22,23 explains: "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order (tagmati, rank): Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming."

Dan. 12:1,2 says of the Tribulation saints on the day of "trouble, such as never was since there was a nation (i.e., the Day of God's Wrath)...And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life..." This is Rapture two. It comes between the opening of the sixth and seventh seals as the Day of God's Wrath begins.

The sixth seal breaks in Rev. 6:12. The Day of God's Wrath begins in Rev. 6:17. The Tribulation saints are seen in Heaven in Rev. 7:14. Then the seventh seal breaks in Rev. 8:1. The asteroids of Rev. 8:8,10 hit at noon that day. The saints are gone before they hit. However, they already know what is coming. At the sixth seal, there is darkness in the sun and moon, small rocks begin to fall, the Sign of the Son of man is seen and men say for the rocks to fall on them and hide them from His face.

> 3. Will the "mark of the beast" be instituted during the tribulation?

Yes. Rev. 13:11-18 is during the last half of the Tribulation.

> 4. If the answer to question #3 is, yes, then please explain when those, who
> refuse to worship the beast, his image, or take his mark, will be resurrected?

On the Day of God's Wrath, but before the seven trumpet judgments hit at noon (Zeph 2:4,5; Job 20:23; Psa. 91:6).

> Here is my problem: if those who refused to worship the beast are beheaded, and if the
> rapture (with the resurrection of the dead in Christ) has already taken place before
> the advent of the beast and his mark, how can those beheaded souls partake in the first
> resurrection and reign with Christ for a thousand years?

Not all will be beheaded, but many will. Those that flee to Petra are protected (Rev. 12:16). When the Bible says to run, RUN. They need to show their faith by their works. In 70 AD, those that ran to Pella were saved from destruction. In 2007 AD, I think those that flee to Petra will be saved.
The beheaded souls will be raised at the Tribulation Rapture. They do not have to wait long to be resurrected. Rev. 6:10,11 says, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should REST YET FOR A LITTLE SEASON, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled." The sixth seal opens in the very next verse. They are then seen in Heaven in Rev. 7:14. After that, the Judgment Seat of Christ takes place and the seven trumpet judgments hit Earth (Rev. 8:1f).

Those of the Pre-Trib Rapture will be "kings and priests" (Rev. 1:6; 5:10). Those of the Pre-Wrath Rapture will be "before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple" (Rev. 7:15).

Those of the Pre-Trib Rapture will be given an "incorruptible" crown (I Cor. 9:25; Rev. 3:11). This is not mentioned concerning the one that was a "castaway" (I Cor. 9:27) at the time of the Pre-Trib Rapture. Like Paul, we must run the race and "press toward the mark for the PRIZE OF THE HIGH CALLING OF GOD IN CHRIST JESUS" (Phil 3:14).

1. All mankind is being tested. Will we or won't we accept Christ as our own personal Saviour. The just shall walk by faith.

2. All the saved are running a race to win the prize of being taken up in the Pre-Trib Rapture. Luke 21:36 says, "WATCH ye therefore, and PRAY ALWAYS, that ye may be ACCOUNTED WORTHY to ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS (the Tribulation) that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

Our time is short. We must get ready NOW and stay ready. "He is so near, He is at the door" (Mt. 24:33, Berkeley Version).

When Paul was told by "the angel of God" (Acts 27:23, i.e., Christ) what to do to avoid losing men in a shipwreck, Paul told the men, "Except these abide in the ship, ye cannot be saved" (Acts 27:31). The men decided to trust Paul. They stayed in the ship. He told them to eat. They did, and then "CAST OUT THE WHEAT INTO THE SEA" (Acts 27:38). We are wheat. In our days, each of us must be a wise Philadelphian virgin and abide in the ship, or we could be a foolish Laodicean virgin "castaway."

As in Noah's day, we stay in the ship until the Lord says, "GO FORTH" (Gen. 8:16). Noah went in when 600 and came out when 601. He came out of the Ark a bit shy of one solar year after he entered. Last Pentecost was May 31 in the 6000th year of man's test as mortal and knowing both good and evil. This Pentecost is May 21 in the 6001st year, a bit shy of one solar year later.

AFTER we ESCAPE and go to the island of Melita ("from whence honey [Word of God] distils," i.e., Heaven), a "viper" will come forth. But after a little while, he will be cast down "into the fire" (Acts 28:3,5). Satan will be cast out of Heaven Mid-Trib (Rev. 12:7-9) and be cast into the fire where the beast and false prophet are, at the end of the Millennium (Rev. 20:10).

This same ESCAPE before the "viper" comes forth is pictured in Rev. 4:1: "behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking (Christ, 1:10,13) with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be HEREAFTER." AFTER the great Pre-Trib ESCAPE, the "viper" will come forth.

> The dead will wait until the second rapture which will be the first resurrection.

No, "we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (Old English for 'precede') them which are asleep" (I Thess. 4:15). There are different ranks in the first resurrection. There are two Raptures, and last that shall be first and first that shall be last. All will be fair at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

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For some reason, I'm getting a screen coming up on 281 & 282 that gives the URL and says something like "that is an Unknown Host." I can get all the others, I hate missing even a one. There is so much in everything you post. You don't need to answer this.... I know how busy you are, but you might want to check. I've tried more than once and tried coming to those P/C's by both direct link from the main page and the link from the previous P/C.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you once again, for all your hard work. You will never know how you have blessed me with this website. I read everything on here. I've learned so much and been so blessed. God bless you, Ed, Millie and the rest of your family. I'm sure hoping for Pentecost. I'm trying to forgive everyone and keep "short accounts" with the Lord. I want to go in the Rapture so badly.

With deepest respect and admiration. Agape

My reply

My web site got full. Thanks for alerting me. Please do let me know if troubles arise again.
I appreciate your kind remarks; makes my loss of sleep, etc. worth it. Ed is feeling better since he is getting more water out of his lungs. Millie called last night and is not feeling very good. She sure needs our prayers. Dave is recovering his taste after such a bad cold. Ed and I have so far avoided the cold by taking Vit. C and Echinacea.

It is now raining lightly. We all saw Venus and Saturn just as they appeared at twilight last night. It's a good thing we saw them early. By the time we drove home, the clouds had moved in.

See you in glory--soon, I hope. Many prophecy teachers are now in agreement that the Rapture can't be far off. Everything is in place.

To me, it seems possible either this Pentecost or next. However, the 12 months Queen Esther was purified make this year the most likely. We have that in writing in the Bible. Also, Noah being in the Ark just about one solar year, from when he was 600 to 601 years old, is down in print in God's Word. I think we are now in the 6001st year.

Avi Ben Mordechai, in "Signs in the Heaven," on p. 270, said, "On the Feast of Trumpets 6001, Y'shua will return to take His bride home (nissuin) to His completed wedding chamber or 'room,' not for seven days, but for seven years. During that period, there will be a great celebration in Heaven, and great trouble on earth, Ya'acov's (Jacob's) Trouble." On page 276, Avi said, "Usually after a one-year preparation period the bride was taken to the groom's wedding chamber for seven days." On p. 277, he said, "Legally, we are married, but the groom has not returned for His bride and we watch and wait for the marriage to be consummated. When will that happen? I do not claim to know the Gregorian year, but I am confident it will happen on the first day of the seventh month according to the Jewish calendar, in the Jewish year 6001....which according to my calculations could fall as early as September of 1999."

Just before the spies were sent into the promised land, Nu. 10:11 says that it was "in the second year." The major clues seemed to point to 1998. These things seem to point to this year as being "the second year." Nu. 13:20,21 says, "Now the time was the time of the firstripe grapes. So they WENT UP, and searched the land." To me, this points to Pentecost, rather than the Feast of Trumpets, but the 6001st year since mankind's test (being mortal and knowing both good and evil) began makes good sense.

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Jim Bramlett wrote:
Excerpt from article on March 18, 1999, in multi-part series by Christopher Ruddy titled, "Russia and China Prepare for War," at

"There is growing evidence that Russia and China are planning for a major war with the United States, and that they could deliver a killing blow anytime in the next two years. The Y2K problem has significantly increased the possibility of war during 1999 or just after the turn of the clock to the year 2000."

In this Part 8 of the series, Ruddy explains: "Why are Most Americans Oblivious to These Terrifying Facts?"

If Ruddy is correct, the fulfillment of Ezekiel 38-39 may be closer than most people realize. Citing both Scripture and supernatural revelations (to others), in my 1995 article, "God's Judgment on America" (at, I speculated that Russia would make a surprise preemptive strike against the U.S., in our national stupor and delusion, to neutralize us for their move on Israel and the Middle East, ostensibly to gain Middle East oil, minerals and direct Persian Gulf access. I also said that may be why the world's most powerful Gentile nation and historic friend of Israel is not mentioned in Ezekiel 38-39. It may be because we are not even a factor.

The utter destruction, mass deaths, confusion and world chaos resulting from such an event is all the more reason to look for "the blessed hope" (Titus 2:13).

My reply

There will be wars and rumors of wars, but I think the army led by Gog in Ezek. 38 will attack on the Day of God's Wrath, the 2300th day of the Tribulation, not now, or within a couple of years. I think it will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 13, 2007.

Ezek. 38:8,18-23 says, "in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel...And it shall come to pass at the SAME TIME when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY shall come up in my face. For in my jealousy and in the FIRE OF MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in THAT DAY (first day of the millennial Day of the Lord) there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel" This is caused by the mountain burning with fire of Rev. 8:8 impacting the Mediterranean Sea.

"So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and ALL THE MEN THAT ARE UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, SHALL SHAKE at my presence (translated sight in Ezek. 36:31)." This is when the Sign of the Son of man is seen (Mt. 24:30).

And "the mountains (plural, including the burning 'star,' asteroid, of Rev. 8:10) shall be thrown down (tossed like a ball, Isa. 22:18), and the steep places shall fall, and EVERY WALL SHALL FALL to the ground...And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the EYES of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."

This is at the breaking of the seventh seal. Rev. 6:17 says, For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand." As soon as the Tribulation saints are safely in Heaven, the seventh seal is broken. Out of it come the seven trumpet judgments, two of which are these "mountains" burning with fire that impact Earth on that day. When that happens, civilization as we know it will be destroyed.

I'm looking for that "blessed hope" too. I pray that I will be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass and to stand before the Son of man. We can't say we haven't been warned. Agape

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in reading your postings, and the Five Doves, there are those who, it appears, don't think that God has favorites, that no one is "better" than anyone else, everyone is on the same level in His Eyes, and, proceeding on the same argument, no one, therefore, will be favored by being taken out in an early evacuation. God has lovingly and mercifully, sent His Son to save us from destruction; a gift of grace. Proverbs 14:35 reads "The king's favour is toward a wise servant; but his wrath is against him that causeth shame." I do believe that God does favor those who seek Him in sincerity and truth, with all of their heart, soul, mind, and strength, forsaking all, and following on to know Him. I, for one, seek His favor, knowing that the only thing I have to offer Him is all the love that I have in my heart. Marilyn, I am filled with such intense longing to leave this earth! I am praying earnestly for those who will be left behind to face the final days, and have such heaviness in my heart for them, but, at the same time, I lift up my head to the joy of seeing Jesus face to face! I read today that the Palestinians now want all of Jerusalem. I am listening for my Lord's command to join His Side forever. In His Love

My reply

As far as Salvation is concerned, believers are all one. We have Salvation and a heavenly home. We have eternal life.

However, if what we do afterward for the Lord didn't count for rewards, why have our works that are built on the foundation tried by fire? Why have a Judgment Seat of Christ for believers at all? Why would there be wise virgins and foolish virgins? faithful and evil servants? Why would they be treated differently? Why have an unused talent taken away and given to one who has gained more by using his talents? How could the Laodiceans be spewed out of his mouth? I wonder if some people are blind to those part of Scripture that they don't want to see.

I'm with you in wanting to join the Lord. I won't be sorry to escape all that is coming upon this evil world. It has no appeal whatsoever, and no hold on me. Heaven is a better place, no pain, no sorrow, no tears. I've had my share of those things in this world. It will be a relief to replace them with happiness. Can you imagine being care free? I have been so blessed to have a wonderful husband. We have gotten along working side by side in business, something everyone told us would lead to divorce. There is no marriage in Heaven, but here, two become one flesh. They all went into the Ark two by two and came out two by two. It looks to me like we can be together if we choose to be.

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