Pro and Con 31, uploaded 11-11-97

Incoming Email, Re: Thank You

...I read everything you put on your web page, and watch every couple of days or so for anything new. A bit of information here or a nuance of truth there or a different insight or association I've never seen before....

You are feeding the Church with strong meat and we are gulping it down. You have the most well written web page with the most precise teaching and answers that I have found. You are doing a good work and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. With this email I want to encourage you. We are listening.

My reply

Bless you. Hearing this makes it all worth while....Thanks...for your encouragement.

(Note: The church is now OLD. If she is ever to have strong meat, it is now.)

Incoming Email, Re: Heaven Found

...I first read Exit-2007 about eight years ago. Since then it has become one of my treasured books. As 1998 draws closer so does my excitement to see if your studies prove to be correct.

I was a little skeptical about getting your new book. I know how scripturally based you are, but still I wondered if you were "off your rocker" to approach the subject of Heaven.

Having finished your book in less than one day, I am now awestruck about your insights and conclusions. It is truly an amazing study.

I enjoy your website very much. Your patience and kindness in response to negative e-mail certainly shows your Christian love. Thanks again

My reply

Thanks for letting me know how you feel. I don't deserve the credit. The Lord does. I just wanted to know everything about the Bible, all the deep things, and the Lord answered my prayer. I didn't have a clue at that time that I would find out where Heaven is. There was more in that Bible than I knew even after that first seven years of intensive study.

Now with the search for Bible Codes, we may find that there is more there than we could ever have dreamed.

Incoming Email, Re: Church of Sardis

I was trying to explain to one of the members of my church the transformation that has taken place in my life as the Holy Spirit has opened the truths regarding the 5 Wise and the 5 Foolish virgins to me these last few months. I think this person had a hard time understanding how I could place myself in the "5 Foolish"" category, given my reputation. But it was a shock to me when the Holy Spirit revealed that there are activities (carnality) that I can partake of that won't necessarily effect my salvation status but they can effect my status as a bride. I had presumed upon a relationship with the Lord that I did not have. I was a Foolish virgin. My friend sent me these verses from Revelation 3 this week and asked me if that was what I was trying to express:

REV 3:1 "To the angel of the church in Sardis write: These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead.

I had a reputation in the church of being alive (wise) but I was dead (foolish).

REV 3:2 Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God.

But now the Holy Spirit has graciously awakened me. I am strengthening and striving to make my deeds complete in the sight of God.

REV 3:3 Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.

I am obeying what I am hearing and repenting. Now I know the time He will come. He will not come to me like a thief.

REV 3:4 Yet you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes. They will walk with me, dressed in white, for they are worthy.

There are others in our church who walk worthy of being the bride.

REV 3:5 He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.

But there are those who will have to overcome during the Tribulation. Then they will be dressed in white like them (the bride). I will never blot out his name from the book of life.

REV 3:6 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

Oh, how very, very important it is to get close to the Holy Spirit and to hear what He is saying to the church today. How urgent it is to stop anything that grieves Him (movies, hellavision, over-eating, busyness, lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God) and to humbly beseech the Holy Spirit to take us by the hand and lead us to the Groom.

I really look forward to your WEB page. What a delight.

My reply

I'm glad you like my Web site....

My main desire is to "Wake up" the foolish Laodiceans in time for them to become wise Philadelphians. Time is short. God bless you

Incoming Email

> The church did not begin observing Sunday as a separate day of worship
> until the Romanization of the church, about 360 AD.
The idea that an early Pope changed the worship day from Saturday to Sunday is promoted by the Seventh-Day Adventists, and to them evidence that the Pope is the antichrist, as having "changed the times," according to Daniel 7:25. However, I believe it is an extremely weak argument. The Radio Bible Class did an excellent study on this subject and they cite historical evidence of Sunday worship in the very earliest church, and in the Scriptures. It undoubtedly was encouraged by the revelation to the 1st Century church in Acts 15 that the Gentiles were not obligated to keep the Mosaic law (I am not saying the moral and relational portions that are reiterated in the New Testament) and Paul's direct revelations from Jesus concerning grace versus law that he so eloquently explained in Romans, Galatians, etc.

As to the day of week of the rapture, another interesting idea is that it will be on the day the Jewish bridegroom traditionally comes for the bride. I have heard it taught that it is Wednesday, although Gary Stearman of Prophecy in the News wrote recently that it is Tuesday.

My reply

Thanks for your helpful addition to this subject. I have heard of this Wednesday tradition, but never of Tuesday. However, I think the Rapture resurrection will take place (in Jerusalem at least) on Sunday, the day of Jesus' resurrection.

Whenever it is, I don't see how it can be far off. We must all strive to be wise loving Philadelphians (without condemnation) and not foolish lukewarm Laodiceans (who are to be spewed out of the Body of Christ for chastisment during the Tribulation).

Incoming Email

"And every mountain and island were moved out of their places." This does not mean that every mountain and island on the planet will be moved, but rather when these star-like bombs go off in the vicinity of a mountain, or an island', the targeted mountains and islands will be severely moved and shaken by the intense heat and violent forces of the nuclear blast's concussion wave.

My reply

There will be a worldwide earthquake. A binary asteroid will split on the way in. One piece like a mountain burning with fire will fall in the Mediterranean Sea. The other "aster" burning with fire will destroy Babylon. "And every mountain and island were moved out of their places."

Incoming Email, Re: Great Rift Valley

we must remember there can be no question that the Jordan fissure was formed before about 4000 B.C. Indeed, according to the most recent presentation of the facts, the origin of the fissure dates back to the Oligocene, the third oldest stage of the Tertiary Period. We thus have to think in terms not of thousands, but of millions of years. Violent volcanic activity connected with the Jordan fissure has been shown to have occurred since then, but even so we do not get any further than the Pleistocene which came to an end approximately ten thousand years ago. Certainly we do not come anywhere near to the third, still less the second millennium before Christ, the period that is to say, in which the patriarchs are traditionally placed.

My reply

I accept the Bible as truth. I do think the Earth is old and was made chaotic by a catastrophic asteroid impact pre-Adam. I believe that YHVH refreshed the Earth and made it a fit habitat for Adam in 4043 B.C., that Abraham left Haran in 2083 A.H. (our 1960 B.C.) and that the cities of the plain were destroyed after that, not in the distant past you describe. Given enough time, archaeology always seems to catch up to the Bible.

Incoming Email, Re: the Great Rift Valley

The Rift begins in the valley of the Orontes River in Syria; at Baalbek it goes over to the Litani River Valley, then to Lake Huleh in Palestine; along the Jordan River to the Sea of Gaiilee, called also Gennesaret or the Sea of Tiberias, which lies in a depression below the level of the Mediter- ranean; from there to the Dead Sea, the deepest depression on earth, between the Judean and Moabite mountainous plateaus that were torn apart; then along the Araba Valley to the Gulf of Aqaba in the Red Sea and across the channel of this sea into Africa; thence for an enormous distance to the Sable River in the Transvaal, branching, on the way, eastward to the Gulf of Aden and westward to Tanganyika and the Upper Niie, and the rift valleys of Lakes Moeris and Upemba in the central Cong~all the way from about 36' north latitude in Syria to about 28" south latitude in East Africa, in a sinuous line along a meridian for more than a third of the way from one pole to another.

It was recognized that a horizontal force of one kind or another had been the cause of this rift valley. "The simplest and earliest thought was that Africa had been pulled apart." However, another school of geologists questioned whether the Rift could not have been produced under horizontal pressure, which forced the margins of the rift valley up and the valley strip down. After a long debate the consensus restated the view expressed by Eduard Suess, a prominent geologist at the turn of the century: "The opening of fissures of such magnitude can be explained only by the action of a tension, directed perpendicularly to the trend of the split, the tension being relieved in the instant of bursting, that is, of opening of the fissure." He observed also that immense floods of lava gushed out of the earth along the Rift and a most vigorous volcanic action took place. Suess brought to geology the now generally accepted concept of Gondwana land, a continental mass that occupied the larger portion of the Indian Ocean, and that in a relatively recent subsidence was torn apart and drowned. The subsidence of the Gondwana continent could have caused a strain on western Asia and Africa, and under this tension the land must have been rent and the Great Rift formed.

Gregory wrote: 'The nearest approach in size [to the Rift] can probably be found on the moon, whose clefts or rills no doubt represent long, steeply walled valleys and present to us much the same aspects as this East African valley would do to any inhabitants of our satellite. Not the least interesting of the points raised by the African-Red Sea-Jordan depression is the possibility that it may explain the nature of those-lunar clefts which have so long been a puzzle to astronomers." '

The Rift was produced by tension; hence the rifts on the moon were also caused by tension. Gregory followed Suess in linking the Great Rift Valley with "the mountain chains due to the last great uplift of fold mountains" in Europe, Asia, and the Americas. Thus the time of the last uplift, if established, would also clarify the time when Africa suffered the Great Rift. It is probable, too, that the Rift began in one great tension and increased in the next.

Gregory concluded: "This wide-spread valley system is obviously not the result of some local fracture. Its length is about one-sixth of the circumference of the Earth. It must have some world-wide cause, the first promising clue to which is the date of its formation.

Although Gregory thought that the Rift first came into being at an early epoch-because of marine fossils found in it-he also saw signs of great earth movements along the Rift "at a recent date." "Some of the fault-scarps are so bare and sharp that they must be of very recent date. This continuation of earth-movements into the human period is one of the most striking features of the district." Gregory found also that human memory retained recollection of the - upheaval. "All along the line the natives have traditions of great changes in the structure of the country.

The globe was in tension and its crust cracked along a meridian for most of the length of the African continent. The cause may have been the subsidence of the Indian Ocean, or both tension in Africa and subsidence in the Indian Ocean could have a common cause. The mountain ridge on the floor of the Atlantic Ocean may have been produced by the same cause; and the time of the rupture and faulting must have been coincident with one of the periods of mountain formation in Europe and Asia. Those mountains attained their present height in the age of man; the Rift, it is assumed today, was also created largely in the age of man at the end of the Ice Age.'

What kind of force is necessary to tear apart a continent? Whence came the tension that was relieved by the bursting of the African land mass? Ice did not do it, nor the wind that erodes mountain heights, nor the rivulets that carry eroded detritus down to the sea.

My reply

: I hope you know how much I appreciate all this wonderful information on the Great Rift Valley, a subject in which I am greatly interested.

The force that split this apart was, I think, an incoming asteroid that destroyed Sodom, Gomorrah, and the cities of the plains. There was fire and brimstone at the time. Luke 17:29 says, "But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone FROM HEAVEN, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed."

This revealing is the Sign of the Son of Man mentioned in Mt. 24:30. Both the "great mountain burning with fire" is "cast into the sea," Rev. 8:8) and the "great star ('aster') FROM HEAVEN, burning as it were a lamp" (Rev. 8:10) will fall on that day, the first day of the Millennium.

Both times, something comes in "FROM HEAVEN."

Incoming Email, Lyn Mize

I hope You are doing well. Thank you so much for copying and sending me the tract from the las Vegas minister I asked you for. I have received it and I am also wondering if you know where Lyn Mize's book "The Open Door" might be available. I have heard you mention it on your pro and con section.

Thanks for your time. I find all of this greatly exciting, especially with all that is currently happening in the middle east right now with Israel and with Iraq. I believe that in the very very near future, we will see Suddam Hussein pull something off really dirty and vile - because that is his nature! Take care. I for one - am "looking up"!

My reply

Someone kindly bought me "The Open Door" (publ. in 1994) when someone else mentioned it in email. It is available from:

Meat In Due Season Ministries
332 Cedar Glen Circle
Chattanooga, TN 37412

Mr. Mize signed the book and put in this note: "Dear Marilyn, Someone asked me to send you this book. I hope you enjoy it. I think your Web Site is super. God Bless, Lyn Mise."

He dedicated the book to "all those Christians who aspire to be part of the Bride of Christ" and quoted Song of Solomon 2:10-13 (which shows that the Rapture will take place at Pentecost). He repeats over and over that salvation is by grace and rewards are according to works. Therefore, his basic beliefs are sound.

There is much I can agree with and some I cannot, which is to be expected. No two people think exactly alike. He believes in two Raptures, which is to his credit. Many cannot even see that. He thinks that the Philadelphians are going to be raptured before the Tribulation, calls it "the Firstfruits Rapture," and that Sardis and Thyatira will also be rejected at that Rapture. Like me, he thinks the first Rapture will be on Pentecost and the second on the Feast of Trumpets.

Here is one main difference. He places "the Main Harvest Rapture" on the Feast of Trumpets in the middle of the Tribulation and applies I Th 4:13-18 to this Main Harvest Rapture rather than at the first trump Pre-Trib Rapture. Then he applies 1 Cor 15:51-52 to the second Main Harvest Rapture also.

I think the first trump (I Th 4:13-18) is the Pre-Trib Rapture and the last trump (1 Cor 15:51-52) is the Pre-Wrath Rapture on the 2300th day of the Tribulation. However, early in my studies, I too thought that the second Rapture was in the middle of the Tribulation. That is easy to do because Dan. 12:1 mentions Michael and Rev. 12:7 mentions Michael in the middle of the Tribulation. The chapter division at Dan. 12 kept me from hooking it to Dan. 11 for maybe 2 years. The second Rapture takes place "at the time of the end" (Dan. 11:40), when the False Prophet "shall come to his end" (Dan. 11:45), when "there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time (the very day of Jacob's trouble): and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book" (Dan. 12:1).

In discussing the Parable of the Dragnet, he says, "This is a clear description of the 144,000 Jewish evangelists who are the Firstfruits of the Jews preaching the gospel of the kingdom during the last 42 months of the tribulation. Numerous Gentiles will be saved during this proclamation of the gospel of the kingdom.
"These saved are not part of the Church and WILL NOT BE RAPTURED since they were saved after the Church Age ended. They will enter into the millennium in their bodies of flesh and blood."

This would make these saved have to go through the Day of the Wrath of God. That cannot be true. They will be pulled out of the fiery furnace just like Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in Dan. 3.

Some say that if all the saved go to Heaven and all the unsaved are cast into the winepress of the wrath of God, there would be none to live on into the Millennium. They forget that all Israel will be saved in that day. There are still sheep and goats for Jesus to judge at the Judgment of the nations. Men will be few, but not all will die in when the asteroid impacts Earth. Many will turn to God at that time. They will live on into the Millennium.

Lyn says, "It seems certain that John Paul II is the False Prophet described in Revelation 13. He is the 'beast coming up out of the earth" who will identify the Antichrist as the Messiah and "causeth the earth and them who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly would (sic) was healed' (Rev. 13:12)."

I think the second beast of Rev. 13 comes up out of eretz Israel.

Lyn also thinks Babylon is USA. I think Babylon is on the Euphrates River in Iraq. He says, "Ancient Babylon did not have a mother since it was founded by Nimrod." I think the Mystery Religion at the Tower of Babel was the mother of all false religions. Rev. 17:5 says, "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." He thinks Missiles will destroy Babylon. I think the "aster" of Rev. 8:10 is an asteroid.

So, you see, we agree in things that really matter (salvation, etc.) and disagree on some minor details (how to interpret prophecy). If we believe the right things about Christ, we will make it to heaven even if we are wrong about some other things. Lyn is to be commended for his delving into the Word deeply. It is no easy task to sort all these things out. I wish more people were so dedicated. God will certainly bless his tremendous effort, both in teaching and in writing. He is trying hard to understand and to help others understand. What more can be expected?

Her reply, Re: Lyn Mize

Once again, thank you for taking the time to respond and so quickly too! I also received from Bob Ware his phamplet on numbers he came up with and the way that they parallel yours, but I confess, much of his stuff is way over my head. I just couldn't undertand a lot of it and what it meant. The numbers are confusing.

I'm not sure about John Paul II being the "beast" or the one who Points to the antichrist or the falst prophet - I do believe that the "Man of Sin" will TAKE over the Papal Throne because Satan desires WORSHIP and the pope truly is worshipped today {in the sense that God speaks of worship}. I mean, he lets people bow down to him, kiss his feet, call him a name reserved for God alone {Holy Father} - etc., etc. and he truly is the "idol shepherd". His "vatican" is surrounded by idols. I was raised Catholic. The churches I went to then were full of idols, large and small with candles burning everywhere. I don't think that USA is Babylon though. I believe Babylon is BABYLON and will be in Iraq. I also believe that all these so-called "apparitions" of Mary in these last days is none other than the false "angel of light" -Satan - deceiving millions. These apparitions do not support the bible. This Virgin Mary {so-called} appearing - is telling people to do "penance" for their sins so her son will have mercy on them, but HIS mercy was shown at the cross, not thru "penance", etc. I was just curious about the book by Lyn Mize. Did you ever hear anything more from the Malaysian who Bob Ware says was the THIRD person who found this numbering system you came up with? Also, I am wondering about one other thing I forgot to ask you when I read your other book - Your numbering system relies a lot on those 4 years when the FIG tree was cursed. You know, the rapture, then 4 years, THEN the start of the Tribulation. Is there anywhere else in scripture that supports this 4 year gap between the rapture and the tribulation that you know of?

Well, God bless you and thank you so much for taking out the time to go into detail to answer my questions and for your insight on Lyn's book. As we grow closer to the time - I am certainly getting excited. I noticed that 1998 is one of the "NINE" years. I mean - it is divisible by the number 9 just like the number 1611 is {when the Bible was printed - the AV 1611} and NINE is the number of FRUITfulness. No matter how you add up those numbers, [1998 and 1611} you always end up with the number 9 or a number divisible by nines. Peculiar, ain't it...?

My reply

> much of his stuff is way over my head.

Mine too. I just absorb a little more each time I study it.

(Note: since this, Bob sent me what he must have sent her. I understand more this time than ever before, but I have a better chance than she does because I have some of his charts that she does not. I hope he gets his Web page up where the words and charts can be shown together. It will be easier to understand that way.)

> No matter how you add up those numbers, [1998 and
> 1611} you always end up with the number 9 or a number divisible by nines.
> Peculiar, ain't it...?

Yes. Another strange thing. 666 x 3 = 1998. I don't know what to make of it, but there it is--peculiar.

As for the two beasts of Rev. 13, I think the first one will be the Tribulation Pope. He comes out of the sea (nations, Rev. 17:15), but is a Roman (Dan. 2:40:7:7) and is worshipped. I expect him to be elected Secretary General of the world government. He is given a bow but no arrows (Rev. 6:2) meaning that he controls the world's armaments but has none of his own. The Beast will rule during the first half of the Tribulation.

He will have ten kings under him. Since he is a religious leader (riding a white horse as a prince of peace) and not a statesman, this will give the nations more confidence in his leadership. This is just a way they think they can bring peace to the world; "who is able to make war with him?" (Rev. 13:4).

In the middle of the Tribulation, Satan is cast down from Heaven to Earth. He enters into the False Prophet of Israel, the beast out of the land. He is depicted as having two horns because Satan has two comings, in Judas and in the False Prophet. It seems that Satan engineers an accident that incapacitates the Beast long enough for the False Prophet to pull off a coup and take over both the world church and the world government. He will immediately sit in the temple shewing himself that he is God (II Thess. 2:4). He will kill God's two witnesses (Rev. 11:7) because they will not worship him--a busy first day.

> I also believe that all these so-called "apparitions" of Mary in these last days is
> none other than the false "angel of light" -Satan - deceiving millions.

There may be a tie in with "Jezebel." Rev. 2:20 says, "I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication (join together), and to eat things sacrificed unto idols."

Mr. Kuek does not answer our mail.

> Your numbering system relies a lot on those 4 years when the FIG tree was cursed.
> You know, the rapture, then 4 years, THEN the start of the Tribulation. Is there anywhere
> else in scripture that supports this 4 year gap between the rapture and the tribulation
> that you know of?

There are ten years between the two Raptures (5758-5768). Rev. 2:10 says to the persecuted church, "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil...shall cast come of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." The word translated days means several different periods of time, including years. The meaning is to be determined by the context. The Tribulation proper begins on The Feast of Weeks/Pentecost in 5761. This leaves 5758, 5759, 5760, 5761, Pentecost to Pentecost, for those four years of grace for Israel mentioned in Luke 13:6-9.

Also, In Rev. 17:12, "the ten horns (kings) which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet (at the time of the Rapture); but receive power as kings one hour with the beast." The ten kings have no crowns. Yet, in Rev. 13:1, as the Beast comes to power at the beginning of the Tribulation, those horns have crowns. This shows that the Rapture is not exactly at the beginning of the Tribulation. Remember here, that all of Revelation is written as if the Rapture were "at hand" (Rev. 1:3; 22:10).

Incoming Email

I have read both your website and your book, The End of the Age. I am excited about the possible time frame you have suggested. I am equally approving of the presentation of your material, not as a "prophet of God" or with some holy authority, but as a simple researcher and lover of Jesus desperately waiting his return. I am certain you are proving yourself a "wise virgin".

first last: for many be called, but few are chosen." Remember also the prodigal son story and the son who had always been faithful to his father. He was quite upset also. Scripture clearly states the Lord already HAS a special reward for those of us are looking for and "love his appearing". However, the most subtle sin is vanity-it's the one found in Lucifer causing the fall. So while I really do hope your time frame is accurate, I am concerned about any dividing of the body of Christ, whatever

One last note, what about the 144,000 sealed of God during the Tribulation ? Is it your belief that these are Actual Jews in light of Romans 2:28-29. Have you ever thought about the possible mercy of the Lord in removing the vast majority of the Church, consisting of the "babes in Christ" and those carnal, easily swayed ones and leaving himself a remnant of mature sealed believers to preach untouched for a time about the timetable of God. Your thoughts on who this group is would be appreciated.

Thanks for your time and your exhaustive labor in the Word of God. Hope to see you sometime in May !

My reply

I appreciate your kind words. You display the agape love of those who are filled with the Lord's Holy Spirit, as the wise virgins do.

>as a simple researcher and lover of Jesus desperately waiting his return.

You don't know how desperate I am, but you hit the nail on the head.

>the Lord already HAS a special reward for those of us are looking for and "love his appearing"

This special reward just may be to be chosen as a member of the Bride of Christ. What "prize" do you think Paul was working for? It certainly was not his salvation. He already had that. Since he mentioned the possibility of being a "castaway," it must have been to be included in the first group to be raptured. Since it looks to me like the second group to be raptured are caught up after the Marriage of the Lamb, the chances of the first of the firstfruits being the Bride are good. Rev. 19:7 says, "the marriage of the Lamb is come" and the 9th verse says, "Blessed are they which are CALLED unto the marriage supper of the Lamb."

My son, David (born on April 6, the date of both the Crucifixion and Second Advent on our calendar) heard the Lord, who is called the Son of David, speak to him in audible words. The gist of what was said is that we have to be perfect. Dave forgot the rest of it for it was pretty long, but what is indelibly etched in his brain is that we must be perfect. I do not want to take any chances. Let's strive to be a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless in the sight of God (Eph. 5:27).

Since there are first that shall be last and last that will be first, I cannot say that this division of the Bride is certain, but it looks that way.

At the second Rapture, every believer will go to heaven. It seems that the penny represents salvation. It is given to all with faith in Jesus Christ regardless of how much work they did for him, regardless of sins. When Christ died, he took the punishment we deserved for our sins upon himself. By doing that, he took sin out of the way as a criterion for salvation. But that does not mean that there are no rewards that we can work for. We do not work for salvation, it is a free gift, but we work for rewards. We send treasures ahead to enjoy when we get to Heaven, and we can work in hopes of being chosen as the Bride.

>Remember also the prodigal son story and the son who had always been faithful to his father

The faithful one still had his inheritance. The prodigal one was taken back, but he had squandered his inheritance. The faithful one can represent those taken in the first Rapture, the prodigal those taken in the second Rapture. Like Lot, they are saved so as by fire.

>However, the most subtle sin is vanity-it's the one found in Lucifer causing the fall.
No contest there. We are to operate as humble servants, as Paul did. Yet, Paul was working for an incorruptible crown and tried to avoid being a "castaway."

>what about the 144,000 sealed of God during the Tribulation ? Is it
>your belief that these are Actual Jews in light of Romans 2:28-29.

Yes, the 12 tribes are listed. The clock will have started again for Israel. The Tribulation is the Seventieth Week of Daniel. Israel will be fulfilling her duties as believer priests after the Rapture of those of the church fulfilling their duties as believer priests. In the church, there is neither Jew nor Gentile. We are all members of one body. But after the Rapture of the main part of the church, the Jews are again carrying on the Lord's work. It looks like two things will wake them up, the Rapture and the appearance of God's two witnesses, Moses and Elijah. A vast number of people will be saved during the Tribulation.

>Have you ever thought about the possible mercy of the Lord in removing the vast majority
>of the Church, consisting of the "babes in Christ"" and those carnal, easily swayed ones and
>leaving himself a remnant of mature sealed believers to preach untouched for a time about
>the timetable of God.

That would not be fair, and God is fair. He will raise up a new batch of believer preachers. When Elijah was taken up, Elijah saw him go up and therefore was given a double portion of the Holy Spirit. Those who see the Rapture take place (and "many shall see it," Psa. 40:1-3) may also receive this double portion. They may be the ones that are so sure of what they are saying that they will gladly give up their lives if that is necessary.

Everything I find looks like May is a good choice, especially the Son of Solomon 2:10-14, This hope burns strong. But, in case the Rapture is at a different time, we must stay in a state of readiness, watching and waiting patiently. Rev. 3:10 mentions "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation (trial), which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

His reply, RE: of course, the Rapture

Thanks so much for your quick reply. I truly have no problems with your analysis. I consider it to be a non-issue. Again, your book is most encouraging. I wish teachers would concentrate on our lord's coming and his kingdom instead of how to get temporary material goods and fleeting status. You, Maryilyn have chosen the good part, (Wisdom), and it shall not be taken from you. Luke 10:42 God Bless You.

My heartfelt thanks to all who like my Web Site. God's wonderful blessings on you all. May we meet at the assembly in Heaven right after the Rapture.

In Christ,
(Mrs.) Marilyn J. Agee

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