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From Nigeria to Florida! (Jim Bramlett)
The Spirit is moving -- all over the world! Jesus is coming soon!

Last night I saw Mike and Barbara Richmond for the first time in a couple of months. Barbara has just recently returned from several weeks in Africa and Israel. Her testimony of what happened in Africa is absolutely amazing. (One negative was that while there she lost a large molar filling and half the tooth broke off. But God had a purpose in that, as you will see below.)

One example was the weekly all-night prayer meetings in Nigeria, held every Friday night for about a year. There is a great hunger for God in Nigeria. Typical attendence at this weekly meeting is about 1 million! On one occasion it reached 2 million! People come from the bush and all over just to pray and intercede for revival in themselves and the world. To get there many walk all day, pray all night, then walk home on Saturday. The church is a concrete slab with a tin roof. There are no walls, which is good because of the 100+ degree heat. It is about 1 kilometer long (close to a mile!) and 1/2 kilometer wide.

Barbara spoke at one of the meetings -- only briefly as the purpose is to pray and worship and not preach. She said she looked out over a sea of heads almost as far as she could see. It was staggering. The main prayer she heard from the people over and over again, "Lord, make me holy." There is a deep hunger to walk in holiness before the Lord.

This is God!!!

Since they have been pouring out themselves for others, this week I urged Mike and Barbara to visit the Greater Life Assembly of God church in Ovieto with me at their regular Friday night revival service, the church where God has been moving so strongly and even giving people gold teeth. I wanted them to be blessed and ministered to. They say yes but called back later to say they had forgotten they had a house guest coming in from Los Angeles and they had to cancel. But after hanging up I felt led to immediately pray, "Lord, I believe you want them there so please let something happen to cause them to come anyhow." A few hours later Barbara called and said they had changed their mind again, that their guest wanted to come, and they would meet me! Praise the Lord!

We met at the church and sat together. At 7:30, to begin the service, Pastor Jeff Good explained what all God had been doing and suggested everyone take one of the small flashlights available and check each others' mouths so they will quickly recognize any change later. Barbara "opened wide" and we boldly stuck a flashlight into her mouth, just looking around. We were then in shock!!!

Already, before the service started, that half-broken tooth that had lost the filling in Nigeria was now a beautiful, shiney, totally gold tooth! It was not a crown because nothing of the natural tooth was visible -- just a big, smooth gold tooth. In addition, she had two new gold fillings right in front of it, and a natural-looking white filling in an upper tooth where a cavity had been (as she had procrastinated getting the dental work).

Needless to say we were all ecstatic. But in addition, when they got home her house guest found gold dust all over her hands (another recent, frequently occurring phenomenon)!

By the way, just praise and worship at the service last night went for 2 hours, 10 minutes, and the whole service lasted over 4 hours. I got home after midnight. It had to be God because I didn't even look at my watch as the hour grew late, very rare for me. I must have been caught up in the Spirit.

May the Lord be praised for what all He is doing in Nigeria and all over the world!!! He is drawing people to Himself and to personal holiness. Plus, He is revealing His reality and power in a most remarable way. Jesus is coming soon!

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Thanks for taking time in your extremely busy schedule to answer. I have studied so hard for solid written proof. I still think it is there. I keep going back to "as the days of Noah."

How do you feel about Acension Day? Kislev 24 is l50 days + 40 days "upward" to May l3th,Thursday(Acension Day).It is also the end of the anniversary year of Israel becoming a nation. 40 days from the Ressurection.

My reply

I keep going back there too.

Ascension Day is a possibility, but I think Pentecost has the best chance. Ascension Day is not one of the seven feasts.

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Re: Signs and Wonders,
Darrell Lockridge wrote:
Although I believe that the Bible has much to say about the Lord's Return I don't agree with your interpretations. The primary reason that I'm absolutely sure that you are wrong about the date of Christ return is because you a following a signs and wonders gospel. Sadly, you as well as most Christians today have be deceived by Satan the AntiChrist. He has come to you as an angel of light. Mrs. Agee, you must recognize that the Bible is the ONLY source of truth--God is not speaking outside of His word. I hope that you will consider this message after May 22. Love In Christ Jesus

My reply

You don't have to agree with my interpretations. You are responsible to search the scriptures and see if these things are so. The Bible is the only rock-hard truth we have. It is the only thing we can be absolutely certain is right.

I certainly am not following a signs and wonders gospel. I pass on interesting information I receive, but not one belief of mine is built on anything but the Bible. However, I do not limit the powers of God. Who are you to say that he is not speaking outside of His word. He is the Almighty. He can do what he pleases. We are near the Rapture. The last generation is different from others. I John 2:18-28 says, "Little children, it is the last time (i.e., year, Rev. 12:6,14)... But ye have an unction (anointing) from the Holy One, and ye know ALL THINGS....But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you; but as the same anointing teacheth you of ALL THINGS, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. And now (i.e., in this last time), little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear (at the Rapture), we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming."

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Re: Signs and Wonders,
Darrell Lockridge wrote:
Dear Mrs. Agee

You said: Who are you to say that he is not speaking outside of His word.

God said: For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away form the words of the book of this prophecy , God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Revelation 22:18

Capital letter signs and triangle lights have nothing to do with the Bible.

My reply

That's right. So they are neither adding to or subtracting from Scripture.

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Re: omer period
I read today, on Virtual Jerusalem, "Lag Ba'Omer." It included a section entitled "Anticipation," which said: "the tension increased as the days passed, but so did the anticipation of going up to the Temple on the upcoming festival of Shavuot (Pentecost). Shavuot was the religious climax of the counting period. Since Shavuot also commemorated the giving of the Torah on Mt. Sinai, observance of the holiday continued even in the post-Temple period when the offerings were discontinued. The period of the Omer thus became the natural bridge between Pesach and Shavuot. For what reason did the Children of Israel leave Egypt if not to receive the Torah? Thus the Jew counted the Omer as a bride and groom would count the days to their marriage; as each day passes, the anticipation grows." The Bride is counting the days to Pentecost, and yes, indeed, the anticipation is growing as each day passes. The article states that the omer is a specific measure of barley, in fact, a yield of a sheaf of barley, which was offered on the second day of Passover. From that day onward, it was necessary to count forty-nine days until Shavuot - the Feast of the Wheat Harvest.

After the destruction of the Temple, the practice of bringing barley was discontinued, but Jews continued to "count the omer period," a custom which has continued throughout the ages. It is interesting that this forty-nine day count has been preserved faithfully. I think that we are in a very significant period of time, right now. I continue to pray for you and Ed, that your bruises and pain will soon heal. In Jesus' Name, Amen. With love to you both

My reply

We are doing pretty good except my daily fight with muscle spasms. We walked in the mall today. Walking got the kinks out, driving home put them back. By the time I got in the house, I was putting the hot pack in the microwave and taking quinine. I slept a couple of hours after that. Now, I feel better.

> going up to the Temple on the upcoming festival of Shavuot (Pentecost)

Yes. They went up to Jerusalem. That makes Pentecost more likely for the Rapture than Ascension Day. We are to go up to New Jerusalem. Rev. 3:12 says, "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the TEMPLE of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is NEW JERUSALEM."

> Shavuot also commemorated the giving of the Torah on Mt. Sinai

It is also when the trumpet sounded long and God spoke. Ex. 19:20 says, "the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up." Moses means taken out of the water. Ex. 2:10 says, "she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water." As a baby, he rode in a basket on the water, just as Noah rode in the Ark on the water. Since the Spirit of Christ is called living water, there is a connection. The Spirit of Christ will raise us up too.

After his birth, Moses was hidden three months before being put in the basket on the water. Pentecost is the third month of the Jewish Sacred Calendar. There may be a connection there too.

> the Jew counted the Omer as a bride and groom would count the days to
> their marriage

Very picturesque of the five wise virgins that went with the bridegroom when he came.

> I think that we are in a very significant period of time, right now.

I think you are right. The Rapture can't be far off, no matter what.

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Since Pentecost is rapidly approaching, I feel there is something I must say.

A year ago, when the Rapture did not take place, the first thing I did was re-read the Ten Virgin parable. It only took a quick look to see the "tarry" we had all overlooked. Also, I realized that the virgins went out to meet the Bridegroom BEFORE the mid-night cry rang out.

So how did they know to go out? How did they know the 'cry' was at hand? I asked these same questions last year and it was generally agreed that by "watching" and by knowing the scriptures, the virgins knew to go out.

Since the Gamma Ray Burst of Jan., I've found myself re-thinking the facts we know. What if the cause of the virgins going out was some sign of a very, very unusual light from the heavens?

What I'm getting at is the possibility that Jan's GRB may be the reason for us to go out in the first place and the real "tarry" of a year will then begin.

I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble (personally, I believe the Rapture will be next month). I just don't want to see the drop off of believers like last year should this year be the tarry instead of the Rapture. Always with Agape

My reply

Whatever happens, we must stand strong through whatever the trial of our faith entails. There are wise virgins and foolish ones. We want to be wise ones who are ready whenever the Bridegroom comes.

Look at the 23s piling up. MAKES ME WONDER. There is another of those caps I did not mean to do.

Jan. 23, 1950, Knesset retored Jerusalem as capital of Israel.
Oct. 23, 1998, the Wye River Memorandum was signed.
Jan. 23, 1999, the gigantic gamma-ray burst was seen in the constellation Bootes just 120 days before Pentecost, Sivan 7, 5759 (Saturday, May 22, 1999). It was 49 years after Jerusalem became capital of Israel.
Feb. 23, 1999, Venus (glorious splendor) and Jupiter (righteousness) were in close conjunction. Billed as Super Duper Meeting of the Plants (in Pisces)
April 23, 1999, Troy saw a vision in Australia. Mars was brighter than it has been for nearly two years too. Earth passed between Mars and the sun Apr. 24.
I wonder if May 23, 1999 will be the Rapture for Troy in Australia?

I went to a file I copied from Avi Ben Mordechai's web page,, to get what Venus and Jupiter mean. He said some interesting things about Moses:

"1) It is ancient Jewish tradition that Adar 7 (Feb. 23 in 1999) is the birthdate and deathdate of Moshe (Kid 38a, Megillah 13a).

"2) By Rabbinic midrash it was also the 3 months from Adar 7 to Sivan 6 (Shavuot) that Moshe was hidden while Pharoah was searching to kill the Hebrew newborns. At that point three months later on Sivan 6, Moshe was brought out and put into the water and saved from the certain death of Pharoah's edict only to grow up to become the redeemer of Israel in the Exodus (Exodus 2:2)."

Since both Moses and Noah rode upon the water, the correlation here with Pentecost is thought provoking. How about Adar 7 to Sivan 7 being exactly three months?

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...Relax and enjoy, your work and your joy is almost complete.

"But call to remembrance the former days (last year and for years), in which after you were illuminated, you endured a great fight of afflictions; partly, while you were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, while you became companions of them that were so used. For you had compassion on me (us) in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in your self THAT YOU HAVE IN HEAVEN A BETTER AND ENDURING SUBSTANCE.

Yes Marilyn Agee  THIS IS YOUR LIFE!  To put it in the vernacular, you fell into the lens vat at the glass works for us and made a SPECTACLE of your self for HIM. And pointed us to life. Thank you very much and God bless every second that you have left.

My reply

Wow! thank you. I can almost see the notebook they made up on This is Your Life program a few years back...

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What a relief. I sort of panicked when you weren't there. I hadn't copied your address at the bottom of the page, I had no idea how to get in touch with you. I wrote and asked and I remember Jim Bramlett and emailed him. He was kind enough to guide me to the new site. Scary thought being here without you! I've come to look forward to logging on each morning and seeing if there is a new P/C....I wrote down your address and phone and fax numbers... I saw Venus last night... I was so fascinated by the story from the man in Australia on the 23rd. Venus did look bigger and it did look like a cross! I kept looking at it because I didn't want to delude myself into seeing something because I wanted to, it was really more like a diamond shape to me but wide and tall.... never seen anything like it. More like the star you see on a Christmas card over the manger.

...Sooooo glad your up and running. Agape

My reply

I have had too good scares. First my Web page disappears, then my 378+ emails disappear. All came back later, thank the Lord, the Web site after 2 days, the emails after a few hours I spent sleeping. I know how you felt when you didn't copy addresses. I had very few snail mail addresses. I'm too dependent on email. For awhile there, it really looked like someone was trying to put me out of business.

Thanks for sharing about the way Venus looked....Agape, Marilyn...

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I have read your website and know that this must be a very exciting time for you. Less than a month until the Rapture!

I must confess that prophecy interpretation is so difficult that I never have been able to get my mind around it. I just do my best to remain in the will of God and let what will happen happen.

So how are you making use of your last days on Earth? Do you feel anxious or worried?

Thanks for your very interesting site.

My reply

Anxious? Worried? No. I am ready, whenever Christ comes for us. I can rest in the Lord and wait patiently. Everything will come out exactly as He planned it before the world began. This is not some experiment on his part. He knows precisely what he is doing and has the power to bring it to pass. It can't be long, no matter how you figure it. World news alone indicates that the Tribulation is approaching. You can almost hear the hoofbeats. I am watching as the Lord told us to do. I am trying hard to understand and to accomplish as much as possible for him in the time I have left. I waste very little time.

Busy? Oh my yes. My server crashed the last two days of April. Then after getting my Web site back up, my computer seemed to lose all of my 378+ emails in my Inbox when I clicked to get offline then clicked to let it compress my mail folders. It thought my Inbox did not exist. The next morning, I got those back by going online and waiting about 5 minutes while it worked on the problem. It says, Error writing to mail file" and still can't compress my folders. Tried 3 times. Forget that and press on.

Today, I can't get online. People have told me I should get my Web site on several mirror sites so it will be accessible after the Rapture takes place. I am working on that and have it on two so far. So much to do, so little time. However, whatever I can accomplish, the Lord can use later on to reach others. He never leaves himself without a witness. Someone will pick up where we leave off. The Lord guides our steps all along the way if we will just let him. Father, guide me every single step of the way. In Jesus' name, Amen.

Today is Cardiac Rehab for Ed. Hope when we return, I will be able to send this. Father, please help fix their problems. In Jesus' name, Amen.

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Thank you. I recently wrote to you and told you I was having a rough time with my faith and i was feeling soo hateful...after i recieved your reply I felt much better...I went a head and started going to my new Church and I have never felt this alive!!!! I was a little nervous about starting Bible study...but i have found that i have learned alot from your books. I want to thank you for inspiring me to want more knowledge and for being so incouraging when i was scared to take another step in my relationship with our Lord...May the Lord bless you and your family

My reply

May he bless you too. You are an inspiration to others who are hesitating about taking another upward step.

Every time that we take another step up spiritually, we are tested to see if we will hang on or drop back. See that you withstand that testing. It doesn't last but awhile and then we are blessed because we hung on. Agape

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Thanks again. I'll check with in the Am Too. I am reading "My Utmost  for His Highest" as a diversion from prophecy. He is pretty astute in his teachings.  What livens it up for me is to read his message for the important dates  in my life, birthdays , Sivan 6, 7 and 8. often there are some uniquely related discussions. Oh BTW, if the lord comes on Sivan 7 at 4:36 am, Saturn rising, then it will be 6:30 pm our time (I think). If he comes with the "hole in the clouds" and a ladder, and a shout and a trumpet at 12 noon on Sivan 5 our time, it will be 10 pm Sivan 6 in Jerusalem time. Why do I stress the time and date of the hole in the sky, besides the fact that it was awesom, is because two prophets recently predicted the end of Calif on my birthday, May 8. I'm beginning to think that May 8 is like Tisha b'av. Well, not really.  I'll check back in the AM. Didn't two women or angels carry an Ephad to Shinar in the air? How does that tie into whole Church or is it the chosen people? I'm too beat to look it up. Thank you for the scripture. One of the Christian girls on CNN gave an alter call live on TV and her friend read one of our favorite passages, Is 57: 1-2. Ybic

My reply

Happy birthday!

> Didn't two women or angels carry an Ephad to Shinar in the air? How does
> that tie into whole Church

Check out Zech. 5:5-11. The ephah is the largest measure for wheat. It represents the world church. "This is their resemblance through all the earth." It does get carried to Babylon/Shinar, "and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base" (the Tower of Babel).

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Troy Geri wrote:
... Getting onto another point. I was reading Genesis 5:23& 24, (23)"And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:(24) And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him." Do you think it is significant that God walked with Enoch for 365 DAYS and then took him? If in some instances in the bible a year may be as a day, Numbers 14:34, "After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise." If God became engaged with us (the bride) last Penetecost, about one year or 365 days later (which = the 365 years of Enoch) is Pentecost 99'. If we walk with God as Enoch did for those 365 days, as we are being tested, we will be considered worthy, as Enoch was and, will be no more, as God will take us just as he took Enoch. You may have already raised this point in an earlier P & C I have not read but, if you haven't, what do you think? Agape love to you dear sister!!!!

My reply

> Do you think it is significant that God walked with Enoch for 365 DAYS and
> then took him?

Yes. I do. Enoch means teacher, dedicated, disciplined, well regulated. He is supposed to have been born and Raptured on Sivan 6, Pentecost. Not only does his 365 days suggest this year, from Pentecost 1998 to Pentecost 1999, but so does Noah's about one solar year in the Ark.

Troy, I just had a strange thing happen. I did a Search for the words "solar year" to find what I wrote about Noah's solar year in the Ark. When I clicked Pro and Con 303 to open it, the words "solar year" would normally be selected. However, the color seemed to fly up and "really" was selected in the paragraph above the information I was looking for. Here is what was said. I will emphasize what was selected like this (*really*) so you can find it....
> for a long time I have felt as though the Lord's description of
> His return, "as the days of Noah were" (Matthew 24:37, NKJV) had much more
> meaning than most of us have ever considered.

I feel the same way. Odd that you would send this tonight. This evening, we had lightning, so I had to turn off my computer. As usual in odd moments, I grabbed my Bible to read. Not being able to *really* get into the various laws given at Sinai where I had left off reading that particular version while waiting for Ed to get his echocardiogram, I marked my place and went back to read the account of Noah like I was drawn to it. Guess what I found out that I had not known before. It was just about one solar year between the second month, 17th day of Gen. 7:11 and the second month, 27th day of 8:14. This latter day was when the Lord told Noah, "GO FORTH" (8:16). That is close to "Come up hither."

If you multiply 12 months by 29.531, the lunar month, you get 354.372. Add the extra ten days from Cheshvan 17 to Cheshvan 27 and you get 364.372. That is just about 365 days, or just about one solar year from the time that Noah entered the Ark in his 600th year to the time he was told, "Go forth" in his 601st year.

Strange that it is roughly one year. It may be also roughly one year from Pentecost in the 6000th year to Pentecost in the 6001st year, when the Rapture may take place.
My computer has never done such a thing before. What I search for is always selected to show me where it is on the screen. It looks to me like we are on the right track comparing Enoch's days being 365 with Noah's about one solar year in the Ark. Thanks for bringing it up. Noah was 600 when he entered the Ark and 601 when he heard "Go forth." That suggests the 6000th (5758) and 6001st (5759) years of man's test since Adam was cast out of the Garden. Between the two Pentecosts of 1998 and 1999 is about one solar year.

We just ran our phone messages. One said that in Galena, IL, a pastor was checking out multiple reports of angels telling people that Christ's return is near.

It looks like we are on the home stretch. It seems to be the time to sprint and try our best to win the race that Paul was talking about. In 1 Cor. 9:24, concerning the prize, which is the Rapture, Paul said, "So run, that ye may obtain." In Phil. 3:14, he said, "I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."

I keep thinking about the gamma-ray burst being on the 23rd, your vision being on the 23rd, etc. If Pentecost is on the first day of the week as in 30 AD, it would be May 23. I'll be happy with May 21, 22, or 23, won't you? Agape

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