Pro and Con 36, uploaded 11-20-97
Incoming Email, Re: What?
> I'm very excited about the Bible codes that have been found by
> Peter Hader, and posted on your web page. Heady stuff! Makes you want to
> get a microphone with a sound system suspended above the earth that the
> whole world could hear, and shout "looky here!" "Jesus is coming
> But back on earth, there is a question jumping up and down in my
> head. Peter Hader said that he found the codes in the 30th thru the 34th
> chapters of Genesis. You said those chapters deal with Joseph, a type of
> Christ. But the saga of Joseph doesn't begin until the 37th chapter, and
> goes to the 50th chapter. The 30th - 34th chapters deal with Jacob's
> wives and children and his dificulty with uncle Laban and also Esau, and
> the murder by Jacob's sons of the men of Shechem.
> Come on, what gives. I've checked three Bible versions. (KJV NAS
> NIV) I bet you're not just testing us to see whether we check the
> scriptures to see if these things be so. Whats happening?
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! for correcting me. It was unintentional. I picked up on what someone else said without checking it out. Shame on me. I should be more careful than that. I hope I don't do that again. It proves I am no prophet.
At least Genesis 30:22-24 says, "And God remembered Rachel, and God hearkened to her, and opened her womb. And she conceived, and bare a son; and said, God hath taken away my reproach: And she called his name Joseph."
Now, lets reassess this. Why are Rapture words found in Gen. chapters 30-34? What kind of teaching can this lead us to?
Jacob (supplanter) becomes Israel (a prince with God) and goes to the Promised Land. Gen.32:28,30 says, "Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed....And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel (the face of God): for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
Is there any connection here with the Rapture?
We will be given "a white stone, and in the stone a new name written" (Rev. 2:17). We will go into the Promised Land and see God in the face of Jesus Christ.
Rev. 22:3-5 says, "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne (one throne) of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his (singular, both God and the Lamb in one person) servants (believers) shall serve him: And they shall see his face (one face); and his name (one name) shall be in their foreheads. And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever."
Zechariah 14:9 says, "And the LORD (YHVH) shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD (YHVH), and his NAME ONE."
Isaiah 46:21-23 says, "who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD (YHVH)? and there is no God else beside me; a just God AND a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return,, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear."
Rom. 14:10,11 says, "we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God."
Phil. 2:19-11 says, "Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." In other words, Jesus Christ is YHVH incarnate, as II Cor. 5:29 attests: "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself."
When we see God, it will be in the face of Jesus Christ, and we will know him as he is. both God and Saviour.
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The man who chose Buddhism wrote:
> >please explain the purpose of faith<
One of the men corresponding with this man answered:
> I forgot to answer that one. Faith is second part of a two-way street that
> is the only way to bridge the gap between the human, material, visible,
> temporal world, and the spiritual, nonmaterial, invisible and eternal world
> where God dwells. An unbridgeable chasm separates the two, because of
> God's holiness and man's sinful nature. Like oil and water, they cannot
> mix. The first part of that two-way street is when out of His great love
> God bridged the chasm Himself by becoming incarnate, dying for our sins,
> being raised, and ascending into heaven. Faith is our response to what God
> did. The word "faith" can be translated "trust," or reliance." We trust in
> what He said, and did. By that and that alone, we have access to the
> Father. Otherwise, we are calling God a liar, and His great sacrifice
> unnecessary. He doesn't like that -- at all. In fact, God blatantly calls
> anyone a "fool" who doesn't believe Him. That is because He went to a lot
> of trouble on our behalf, and to document and preserve the truth in history.
> I hope you do not remain in that category....
My reply to incoming email
My Subject: The Beast and False Prophet
> At the same time the Vatican is clamoring to become the chief
> peace broker in the Middle East. This is interesting in
> light of the fact that the man most favored to be the next Pope isthe
> Archbishop of Paris, Jean Marie Lustinger, who is a
> converted Jew. This man, if he were to become a central figure in
> bringing a peaceful solution to the conflicts in the Middle
> East, would be the first man of Papal authority , who could be mistaken
> by the Jews as the long awaited Messiah.
In the Tribulation, you know that the Beast and False Prophet of Rev. 19:20 are the same as the Beast of Rev. 13:4-10 and the False Prophet of Rev. 13:11-18.
It looks to me like the Tribulation Pope will be the Beast who will "continue forty and two months" during the first half of the Tribulation. He comes out of the sea (nations, Rev. 17:15), yet is a Roman (according to Nebuchadnezzar's image in Daniel). And "who is able to make war with him?...and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb."
In Rev. 6:2, the Beast comes in riding "a white horse: and he that sat on him has a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer (from nikao, as is the "doctrine of the *Nicolaitanes,* which thing I (Jesus) hate," Rev. 2:15).
This man comes in on a white horse as a prince of peace. He has a bow but no arrows. In other words, he controls the armaments of the world government but has no armaments of his own.
In contrast to this man coming out of the nations, the False Prophet comes out of "the earth," the land, Israel. And "he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon" (Rev. 13:11). He speaks like a dragon because Satan enters into him as he did the other horn, Judas Iscariot. Satan has two comings as does the lamb (Jesus). Satan's ministry at this time lasts about 3 1/2 years, as did Jesus' in 30 A.D.
Satan is cast down from heaven (Rev. 12:9) the very day this man pulls off his coup and takes over control of both the world church and the world government, probably by engineering an accident that incapacitates the Beast for awhile. Not elected to office, but by using flatteries and talk smooth as oil, the False Prophet now "exerciseth all the power of the first beast" (Rev. 13:12). He goes to the temple "so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (II Thess. 2:4).
This is still the 1,260th day of the Tribulation. Moses and Elijah have "finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them" (Rev. 11:7), evidently because they will not worship him or bow down to the image he places "in the holy place" (Mt. 24:15). When Satan takes control, he acts FAST. He knows his time is short.
A day filled with events, this is the day that those "which be in Judaea flee into the mountains...For then shall be great tribulation" (Mt. 24:16,21). They had better move fast. When the Bible says flee, fly.
"And to the woman (Israel) were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place (Petra, in Edom), where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time (3 1/2 years), from the face of the serpent...And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev. 12:14,17).
As Judas seemed to be with Christ, yet betrayed Christ and in effect sentenced him to death, the False Prophet will probably seem to be with Israel's Christians and then betray them and sentence them to death. And as Christ could not be held by death, neither can Christians. Our Lord Jesus Christ has the power to save, redeem and resurrect, and he has promised to do just that.
Ruth 4:7 says, "Now this was the manner in former time in Israel concerning redeeming and concerning changing, for to confirm all things; a man plucked off his shoe, and gave it to his neighbour: and this was a testimony in Israel"
Psalms 60:8 and 108:9 both say, "over Edom will I cast out my shoe."
> By the way i love your website it really gives me insight to things i
> might not understand or otherwise would not have ever explored.......have you
> read a book called Divine Revelation From Hell, by MaryKay Baxter...i just
> wanted to get your take on this book.............i have not read any of your
> books which ones would you suggets.........i am 35 white single christian
> male.......and i have just now started to enjoy reading.......i guess if the
> Rapture is next may then i want have to worry about ever getting
> married.........i hope you have a great day...........Candler..........in
> Atlanta Georgia
> PS..how in the world do we today find a good church to attend.......what
> would you suggest.........
No, I have never heard of the book you mentioned.
Of mine, start with Exit: 2007, The Secret of Secrets Revealed. Then my book explaining Revelation, Revelations 2000....Last, Heaven Found: A Butter and Honey Star.
...Exit: 2007 gives proof of what is to come...
As to good churches, it is next to impossible to find one that will teach when end time events will take place, giving dates. They feel that their reputation is on the line. On this, you will have to do your own research.
For the basic good Bible teaching, I like the Baptists because they open their Bibles and teach right straight out of the Scripture. However, there are several non-denominational churches I have attended that are just as Bible based. I am sure there are others. Denomination is not important. Scripture is. It is the only rock-hard truth we have.
I like pastors that feed the flock. Some teach what I call the baby stuff over and over and never get around to the strong meat. However, we do have to remember the main reason for attending is to worship the Lord. I can worship with a group even if I do not agree with everything that is said, just so long as they teach the right things about Christ.
If we are right about Christ, we'll make it to Heaven even if we are wrong about some other things.
I ordered your first two books from you earlier and find
> these absolutely fascinating and so very well researched. I have
> reread them and continue to go back to certain points and ask the
> Holy Spirit to clarify in my mind these points according to His
> Word. Here in a small town in the midwest it is sometimes hard to
> find certain books and I would like to know if I may order two
> of your new "Revelation 2000" books from you?
> I check your web site all the time. May the Lord continue to bless
> you with powerful insights and thank you for sharing all this with
> others like myself. God bless you
I read your books and I must say that if the rapture does not
> come in May 1998, then no one knows when it will come. I thought your
> entire reasoning made sense. God bless you. Much Christian Love,
Thanks. One thing for sure, it has to happen before the Tribulation. And just looking at world events makes one know that it can't be far off. I just keep working hard to spread the word for Christians to get ready.
I pray Luke 21:36: "pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."
I want to be "accounted worthy to escape." I want to be like Enoch, for he "walked with God; and he was not; for God took him" (Gen. 5:24).
Our test is to walk with God by faith that we might be accounted worthy to walk with Christ in Heaven literally by sight.
> Your web site is fabulous. I'm tempted to buy the software now available
> for code study, but sheesh! there's already not enough hours in the day
> to catch all God's throwing our way, I can barely keep up as it is!!!!!
> Isn't God Incredible? I just absolutely cannot WAIT to see Him face to
> face. I have communion every night and ponder my betrothal to Him...it's
> a bit overwhelming to say the least! God bless your diligent attention
> to His word! Watch and Pray
Someone offered to buy me the Bible Code software and I had to turn it down. First, I do not have enough memory or a powerful enough computer. Second, if I did that, I could not do what I do now. The computer would be tied up when I was free etc.
Incoming Email, Re:"No man knows" and Pr 29:18
Just a thought...another way to look at the argument that "no one knows the day or the hour" is that I do not know the day or the hour with absolute certainty. But there is very strong evidence from scripture and other sources that points to a certain date. Am I 100% sure? No. When asked how I would react if 6 Sivan 5758 comes and goes and nothing happens I say that my faith will be unmoved, as it should be. I don't say that if is impossible for the rapture not to happen on that date. Nevertheless, if He does come on that date (or any other) He will not surprise me as a thief in the night would. I am not in darkness that that day should overtake me like a thief. I am alert and sober.
Another look at Proverbs 29:18 "Where there is no vision the people perish (or cast off restraint)..KJV."
The Amplified says, "Where there is no vision [redemptive revalations of God] the people perish..." The revalation of the Bride of Christ is a redemptive revalation that causes us to be restrained and to pray that we may be found worthy to escape the trouble that is coming upon this earth. Without that redemptive revalation we risk not being a bride that has prepared
herself and thus perishing in the Tribulation as a martyr.
I agree with you 100%. We'll just keep on watching. Nothing can shake my faith.
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Incoming Email, Re: Your books
> Dear MJ; I read your books and I must say that if the rapture does not
> come in May 1998, then no one knows when it will come. I thought your
> entire reasoning made sense. God bless you. Much Christian Love
Thanks for the vote of confidence. I have looked at every date I have found any information on, and this one makes the most sense to me. However, I am not a prophet. I cannot guarantee this date, but I do expect it to happen then.
It is sort of like the week before my 40th birthday, 1968. It was the year I found out when end-time events would take place. I had been using my husband's old portable college typewriter on a rickety card table. He wanted to help so bought me a huge desk at an auction. We put it out in the corner of the garage which we had just converted to a room for me to teach Goodnews Club to the neighborhood kids. He ordered an Olympia electric typewriter from someone he dealt with in his work. It just happened to be a model 40. (My mother also sent me $40.00 for my birthday, something she had never even come close to before.)
The typewriter had been on order for quite awhile, so Ed called to see if he could find out when it would come. He was told it would be about two weeks. I smiled, and I guess I looked at him funny. He smiled back and said, "You think it will come on your birthday, don't you?" I nodded. And sure enough it did. The call came, and he was able to bring it home that day.
I hope the Rapture happens according to my expectations as well. There are no guarantees, but to me, the clues all point in that direction.
Thanks so much for your replies. I think that if anyone is correct about a date for the rapture that it is you. However, I will not be disappointed if it does not come on that date. I will never give up the faith in looking for that Blessed Hope. We need to be always watching. So many people are going to be caught off guard and will be doing things that they will be ashamed of doing when Jesus comes. The sad part is that they don't realize that Jesus sees them right now.
I have read all of your books except for your newest one. I will check with the book stores to get a copy. Please keep up the good work. I am 42 and was brought up a Catholic, and became a born again Christian last year. I am now non-denominational and do not go to church anymore because I am so down on organized religion. However, I have gone to crusades (hosted by people like Jesse Duplantis, Benny Hinn, etc.); I watch TBN every day; and I do want to attend Pastor Jack Hayford's church in Van Nuys. He seems so loving and sincerely genuine. I am moving to Vegas next month and will have opportunities to attend Pastor's Hayford's meetings. I really think that Jesus' Church is a spiritual one based upon the principle of love. I have seen enough hatred and selfishness to last me a lifetime, Marilyn. I am trying now to study and understand God and His Word, and to surround myself with loving and kind people who love Jesus. Again, thank you so much for your replies and kind words of encouragement. Kindest Regards
Thanks for sharing this with me. Of course the Church is a spiritual one. It is the Body of Christ. All believers are in it. The Bible did not tell us one thing about denominations.
> I have read all of your books except for your newest one. I will check
> with the book stores to get a copy.
You can't get my third book yet in a bookstore. It has a Jan. 1, 1998 pub date.
> I wrote to you last September when I first found your web site. Since then
> I have read all the material on your web site as well as your books. I've
> studied a lot of prophecy and yours is the only one I've found that answers
> all questions without leaving gaps and contradictions with other scripture.
> God truly picked an 'Ag-ee' to become the expert of the Ag-es!
> I found something interesting after reading about the woman who dreamed she
> missed the rapture in Pro and Con 29. I got to thinking that if this dream
> were really God, there would be some significance found in the meaning of
> the Eucalyptus trees. So, I looked up the word with my online
> Merriam-Webster Dictionary, ( http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary ).
> What I found was most startling.
> Notice the parallel meaning of eucalyptus (to conceal, cover) with satan
> being the 'cherub that covereth' (Ezekial 28:14). Also, notice that its
> closest associated word is 'hell'.
> I know that those left behind are not all condemned to hell. But Jesus did
> describe the time of tribulation for the 'foolish virgins' as being a time
> of 'weeping and gnashing of teeth' -- the same description He always used
> for hell.
> I am planning to be there at the first rapture. Plus, I am going to do my
> best to get my family and friends ready as well. Thank you and God bless
> you. Your ministry is well-timed for this last hour.
Thanks for such nice remarks and the interesting information.
> God truly picked an 'Ag-ee' to become the expert of the Ag-es!
Shammah the son of Agee the Hararite was one of David's mighty men in II Sam. 23:11. It kinda startled me when I found the name in the Bible.
I think we are in sync on conclusions from the circle book. What a revelation from our Precious God. I pray He will continue to give us understanding as we move closer and closer to His perfect time to take us home.....terrorism in Egypt, Israel almost at war, Likkud plots to overthrow Natanyahu, Clintonista's in power, 50 suitcase nukes missing....if He does not come soon there will be none to come for. Maranatha!!!!
My heartfelt thanks to all who like my Web Site. God's wonderful blessings on you all. May we meet at the assembly in Heaven right after the Rapture.
(Mrs.) Marilyn J. Agee
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