Pro and Con 369

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Since someone very nice sent me the book, I thought I would post my thoughts and scriptures I looked up as I read. It is an interesting book of just under 100 pages. I heartily agree that not all Christians will be caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture. We must confess our sins and have our lamps burning brightly when the Lord comes for his Bride. On p. 78, he said, "Fellowship with God takes more than the talk, it also takes the habitual walk! Failure to understand this will keep an uncountable multitude of Christian believers in the Tribulation! My mission through this book is to reduce the size of that group to whatever extent possible." That is commendable. So is his admonition on p. 83, "Walk a holy path. Be ethical in your behavior. Cleanse your robe through confession and repentance and sin no more. Live the Word through a righteous and pure life. Prove your faithfulness to Him by walking in the light as He is in the light. Be ready, watching and waiting for His return."

Too many people fail to see that to be "partakers of the divine nature," we should add to our faith virtue, knowledge, temperance, patience, godliness, brotherly kindness and agape love. For "he that lacketh these things is blind (like the Laodiceans), and cannot see afar off (Heaven), and hath forgotten that he was purged from his OLD sins (when he first accepted Christ). Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your CALLING AND ELECTION sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance (the Rapture) shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ" (II Peter 1:4-11).

However, as I read, I wondered about certain other points Bill makes. For instance, is there really a difference between passages mentioning weeping or wailing? Is there actually a literal place called "OUTER DARKNESS"? Is it possible for any carnal believers, OT or Church, to spend the whole Millennium in "OUTER DARKNESS," where "They can see into the New Heavenly Jerusalem...but they cannot enter...They will remain in this place for the seventh millennium," as Bill thinks? On page 22, he says that "they will be transferred to the place called "Outer Darkness" at the end of the Tribulation. There they will remain for 1000 years repenting (weeping and gnashing of teeth) for their failure to remain in Fellowship with God during their lifetimes. They will be raised at the time of the Great White Throne Judgment and their names will be found in the Book of Life which will allow them to enter the New Heavenly Jerusalem." On p. 21, Bill says, "Again, the simple fact to remember is that ALL Firstfruit saints from ALL ages MUST be taken into heaven in their glorified bodies PRIOR to any other resurrections or translations!" Hmmmmmm. He calls it a fact without any Scripture to back it up. Is he assuming this so-called "fact" on his own? Do these things jibe with Scripture?

On p. 80, Bill said, "At the time John wrote this last book of the Bible, the Lord's Day always meant 'The Day of the Lord.' The Day of the Lord refers to the seven year Tribulation in conjunction with the seventh Millennium. Thus, John was writing from a vantage point within the Tribulation....Those Christians (Firstfruit Christians) having the characteristics of those of the Churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia (Eph. 5:27) will be Raptured very early in the Tribulation. These are they who maintain their fellowship with God. Other Christians (Carnal Christians) will remain to experience the chastising remedies of the Tribulation."

The millennial Day of the Lord cannot start until after Elijah comes in the first half of the Tribulation. Mal. 4:5 says, "I will send you Elijah the prophet BEFORE the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD." The Rapture is before the Lamb is even given the seven-sealed book in Rev. 5. I can't see how he could think the Rapture will be in the Tribulation at all. The Rapture takes place in Rev. 4:1. Those "out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation" (Rev. 5:9) are in Heaven before the first seal is broken in Rev. 6. Also, Christ viewed the events he had John write about in Revelation from the vantage point of when the Rapture is at hand, not "from a vantage point within the Tribulation." If it was in the Tribulation, why send the messages to the churches? The "Lord's day" in Rev. 1:10 may be the same as the "day of the Son of man" (Lu. 17:26) when the Rapture takes place. In my mind, it can't be the Millennium.

On page 94, Bill said, "Old Testament Carnal Believers: Bodies remain in graves until Great White Throne Judgment. Spirits in Paradise transferred to 'Outer Darkness' at end of Tribulation and remain in Outer Darkness weeping and gnashing their teeth until the Great White Throne Judgement. Those found in the Book of Life (Rev. 20:15) then allowed entry into the New Heavenly Jerusalem. Confession and repentance takes place in Outer Darkness which allows for later entry into the New Holy City (Rev. 21:10-27)."

I think all carnal believers will be taken to New Jerusalem in the Pre-Wrath Rapture at the beginning of the Millennium, not its end, but what does Scripture say? To me, Rev. 7:14 shows that they repent and wash their robes in the blood of the Lamb during the "great tribulation."

As I started to compare his statements with Scripture, the very first two words I looked up in Strong's Concordance showed that Bill made a mistake. He evidently didn't consult a concordance before explaining the difference between "weeping" and "wailing" passages. He built his interpretation on the translation. He shows that there definitely is a difference between weeping ("Mat. 8:12,22:13;25:30" and "Mat.24:51 and Luke 13:28") and wailing "(Mat 13:42,50)".

However, Strong's #2805 (klauthmos, wailing, weeping) is used in ALL those scriptures. Therefore, there can be no difference based on either weeping or wailing in the translation.

Since he brought up the subject, I started there as I began to look up some scriptures. Not all of the weeping happens at the same time. Here is my personal study sheet. I can usually get farther by writing things down and trying to organize them a bit rather than keeping everything vague in my head. I can then reread it and study all like verses together.



Rev. 3:10-12: "I also will keep thee FROM the hour of temptation (peirasmos, trial, i.e., the Tribulation), which SHALL COME (i.e., after the Rapture) upon ALL THE WORLD, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Behold, I come (the Rapture is near) quickly: hold that fast which thou hast (the Philadelphians have already repented), that no man take thy crown. Him that overcometh will I make a pillar IN THE TEMPLE of my God, and HE SHALL GO NO MORE OUT: And I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is NEW JERUSALEM."

Rev. 4:1: "Come up hither (the Pre-Trib Rapture, before the seven-sealed book is given to Christ)...ROUND ABOUT THE THRONE were four and twenty seats (thrones): and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads CROWNS of gold."

Rev. 5:8-10: The "elders fell down before the Lamb, having...golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of SAINTS. And they (the SAINTS) sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book (sealed title deed to the Earth), and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed US to God by they blood out of EVERY KINDRED, AND TONGUE, AND PEOPLE, AND NATION (the elders are all Israelites); And hast made US (saints) unto our God KINGS AND PRIESTS: and we shall reign on (epi, over) the earth."


Mt. 24:50,51: "The lord of that servant (evil servant, i.e., carnal Christian) shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall CUT HIM ASUNDER, and appoint him HIS PORTION (2300 days, Dan. 8:14, of the Tribulation) with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH."

Lu. 12:46: "The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will CUT HIM IN SUNDER (lit., cut him off), and will appoint him HIS PORTION WITH THE UNBELIEVERS" (the Tribulation, shortened "for the elect's sake," Mt. 24:22).

The carnal Christian will be spewed out of Christ's mouth (Rev. 3:16) at the time of the FIRST TRUMP. After being chastised (Rev. 3:19) during the Tribulation, he will be caught up at the "LAST TRUMP." At that time, "ALL" believers will be changed (I Cor. 15:51,52). The mortal must put on immortality. If "ALL" believers are changed at the "LAST TRUMP," how can the carnal believers be in a place called "OUTER DARKNESS" during the Millennium?

Rev. 21:27: "there shall in no wise enter into it (New Jerusalem, lit by the glory of God, having no night) any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life." I think both spiritual and carnal Christians are written in the Lamb's book of life and are in New Jerusalem at the beginning of the Millennium.

I Thess. 5:4: "But ye, brethren (believers), are NOT IN DARKNESS...Ye are ALL the children of LIGHT...let us, who are of the DAY, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ. Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should LIVE TOGETHER WITH HIM."

John 8:12: "Then spake Jesus...I am the LIGHT of the world: he that followeth me shall NOT walk in DARKNESS, but shall have the LIGHT of life."

I John 1:5-9: "GOD IS LIGHT, AND IN HIM IS NO DARKNESS AT ALL. IF WE SAY THAT WE HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM, AND WALK IN DARKNESS (i.e., out of fellowship because of sin), WE LIE, AND DO NOT THE TRUTH: But IF WE WALK IN THE LIGHT, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. IF we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. IF we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness."

Mt. 4:16: "The people which sat in DARKNESS (i.e., out of fellowship because of sin) saw great LIGHT; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, REPENT: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Living out of fellowship requires repentance.

Isa. 59:2: "your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your SINS HAVE HID HIS FACE FROM YOU, THAT HE WILL NOT HEAR."

Mt. 25:11,12: "Afterward came also the other (foolish) virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily (AMEN) I say unto you, I KNOW YOU NOT."

Mt. 7:21-23: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY." We should be doers of the Word, not hearers only, if we want to go through the door.

Lu. 13:23-30: "Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once (i.e., at the first Rapture) the master of the house is risen up, and hath SHUT TO THE DOOR, and ye begin to STAND WITHOUT (outside the door), and to knock at the door, saying, lord, lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I KNOW YOU NOT WHENCE YE ARE: then shall ye begin to say, we have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; DEPART FROM ME, ALL YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY. THERE SHALL BE WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH, WHEN YE SHALL SEE ABRAHAM, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and YOU YOURSELVES THRUST OUT (outside the door). And they (Abraham, etc) SHALL come (at the time of the second Rapture) from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south ('from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other' Mt. 24:31; Mk. 13:27), and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. And, behold, THERE ARE LAST (caught up at the last trump) WHICH SHALL BE FIRST, AND THERE ARE FIRST (caught up at the first trump) WHICH SHALL BE LAST."

God is fair. We reap what we sow, get what rewards we deserve. It seems that those out of fellowship at the first Rapture are left behind on Earth and are not part of the Bride. However, there are some last that shall be first. We know that the martyrs are given white robes (Rev. 6:11).


Mt. 8:11,12: "many shall come from the EAST AND WEST (last trump, end of age, Mt. 24:31; Mk. 13:27), and shall SIT DOWN WITH ABRAHAM, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven (where the Father "made a marriage for his son, Mt. 22:2). But the children of the kingdom (Israelites who were 'not worthy' when called, Mt. 22:8) shall be cast out into OUTER DARKNESS: there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH."

At first look, the outer darkness here seems to be the EXTERIOR DARKNESS OUTSIDE THE DOORS of the brightly lit palace where the Marriage of the Lamb is taking place. That would place them out of fellowship with the Lord, and it would be because of unconfessed sin in their lives.

The Greek translated outer is EXOTEROS, exterior, from exo, OUTSIDE OF DOORS. These people are not invited to the wedding, but "are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb" (Rev. 19:9). His "wife hath MADE HERSELF READY. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness (lit., righteousnesses) of saints," (including Christ's righteousness imputed to them plus their righteous acts). Christ's righteousness takes sin out of the way in Salvation. Our righteous acts done when filled with the Holy Spirit earn us rewards. To be included in the Bride of Christ is the best prize.

Mt. 22:12-14: "Friend (believer, Jn. 15:15), how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment (a white robe)? And he was speechless (like the Laodicean, he thought he had it made, thinking, 'I...have need of nothing," Rev. 3:17)....Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into OUTER DARKNESS (outside the door); there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. for many are called, but FEW ARE CHOSEN."

Rev. 17:14: "the Lamb...he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are WITH HIM are CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL."

II Peter 1:Wherefore the rather, brethren (believers), GIVE DILIGENCE to make your CALLING AND ELECTION sure." There is more to it than just the calling.

Jn. 15:12: "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you....Ye are my friends, IF ye do whatsoever I command you" (Jn. 15:12,14). The one cast out of the wedding did not do what Jesus commanded. He was an unprofitable servant.

Mt. 25:28,30: "Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents....And cast ye the UNPROFITABLE servant (believer) into OUTER DARKNESS (outside the door): there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH." In other words, it sounds like the unprofitable servant will not be in the wedding, but will be called to the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.

Rev. 2:8-10: "to the CHURCH in Smyrna write...Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have TRIBULATION ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a CROWN OF LIFE."

James 1:12: "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation (peirasmon, trial, i.e., the Tribulation): for when he is tried, he shall receive the CROWN OF LIFE, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." This sounds like the Tribulation saint will be in "the first resurrection" (Rev. 20:5), "the resurrection of LIFE" (John 5:29), "the resurrection of the just" (Lu. 14:14), completed at the beginning of the Millennium. Those of the first resurrection "shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years" (Rev. 20:6).


Mt. 13:40-43: "As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world (consummation of the age). The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his KINGDOM all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. Then shall the RIGHTEOUS SHINE FORTH AS THE SUN in the kingdom of their Father."

Mt. 47-50: "the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind...gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. So shall it be at the end of the world (consummation of the age): the angels shall come forth, and sever THE WICKED from among THE JUST, And shall cast them into the FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH."

Mt. 25:34,41,46: "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world....Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels....And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."
On pp. 12-14, Bill said:

"CARNAL CHRISTIANS...OUT OF FELLOWSHIP...not FIRSTFRUITS...Where do they remain until final judgment? They remain in the place called "OUTER DARKNESS." They can see into the New Heavenly Jerusalem (Luke 13:28), but they cannot enter--just as Adam and Eve could not enter the garden after their fall. They will remain in this place for the seventh millennium and then, along with the lost, their spirits will be joined with their bodies at the Great White Throne Judgment. They are not part of the First Resurrection as shown in Rev 20:1-6. They will be separated from God and "WEEP and gnash their teeth" for failing to stay in Fellowship with Him during their time on earth.
"Although this is not the Roman Catholic place called Purgatory, it is an interim location apart from the New Heavenly Jerusalem. A place of obscurity. Those present will be separated from God and lose their reign with Jesus during the seventh millennium. They also lose their potential as a FIRSTFRUIT CHRISTIAN. At the end of the seventh millennium, they will be allowed entry into the New Heavenly Jerusalem because they will have confessed and repented of their sins during the previous thousand years of separation and isolation. This is confirmed by the fact that they WILL be found in the Book of Life (Rev 20:15) and the knowledge that there will be no more death, sorrow, crying, or pain for the saved at the end of the seventh millennium (Rev 21:1-5)...
"Very few who study the Bible discern the difference between these two verses,
"Revelation 21:8
"'But the fearful, and unbelieving [unbelievers], and the abominable [the unclean], and whoremongers, and sorcerers [drug users and pushers], and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.' "Revelation 22:15
"'For without [outside the New Heavenly Jerusalem] are dogs [those of moral impurity], and sorcerers [drug users and pushers], and whoremongers, and murderers [those who commit homicide], and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.'
"Yet, there is an eternity of difference! 21:8 describes the lost who will be thrown into the Lake of Fire at the Great White Throne Judgment. Note that this verse specifically includes UNbelievers while 22:15 omits UNbelievers!...The word 'without' in 22:15 means 'outside.' This is 'outside' the city of the New Heavenly Jerusalem as mentioned in the prior verse 22:14. This harmonized perfectly with Luke 13:28 which shows those cast out are able to see the prophets who are inside that great heavenly city...
"Book of Life? Those who are found in it at the great White Throne Judgment are the restored CARNAL CHRISTIANS who have been released from the place of 'Outer Darkness'!"


Rev. 21 tells us about New Jerusalem. Who can go in? There are 12 gates for the 12 tribes of Israel. The saved OT saints can go in. There are 12 foundations, standing for the 12 apostles. The Church saints can go in. Together, the 12 patriarchs and the 12 apostles are the 24 elders of Rev. 4 and 5. Of course they can go in. And who do they represent? the "FIRST OF THE FIRSTFRUITS," that are caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture in Rev. 4:1--before the Lamb even receives the seven-sealed book in Rev. 5. So, after the first Rapture, the elders and saints of Rev. 5:9 are in New Jerusalem. They are "kings and priests."

How about those left behind the first time? Rev. 14:1-5 says, "lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion (the heavenly one), and WITH HIM an hundred forty and four thousand (Israelites), having his Father's name written in their foreheads (their sealing)....And they sung as it were a NEW SONG before the THRONE...and the elders: and NO MAN could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth (at the Pre-Wrath Rapture): for they are virgins. These are they which FOLLOW THE LAMB WHITHERSOEVER HE GOETH. These were redeemed from among men, being THE FIRSTFRUITS unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are WITHOUT FAULT before the THRONE of God." It sounds like the 144,000 Israelites will be the last which shall be first, for "no man could learn that song" but the 144,000.

The Church saints sang "a new song" in Rev. 5:9. They are the "FIRST OF THE FIRSTFRUITS". In Rev. 3:4, the overcomers that have not defiled their garments, will WALK WITH CHRIST in white, "FOR THEY ARE WORTHY." It is very important to be "worthy." The 144,000 sing "as it were a NEW SONG", and they are "FIRSTFRUITS". And "NO MAN could learn that song" but the 144,000. That shows that the great multitude that no one can number are classed a bit differently from the 144,000 in Rev. 7.

Bill Wingo thinks that the CARNAL Christians cannot be numbered, and that they will be in "OUTER DARKNESS."...for the seventh millennium."

He may be right about the carnal of each era not being numbered. That is a subject I'd like to research. Maybe I can learn something from him on that. I hadn't thought about that before, but the Israelites were numbered just before they went into the promised land. However, I think that even the CARNAL Christians will be raised at the beginning of the Millennium, NOT the end.

Rev. 21:27 says of New Jerusalem, "there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: BUT THEY WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN THE LAMB'S BOOK OF LIFE." Those in the Book of Life enter New Jerusalem.

On the first day of the Millennium, Rev. 11:17,18 shows that all saints, "SMALL AND GREAT" will be judged at the JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST that day. It says, "thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry (attacking Israel, Eze. 38), and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the SAINTS, AND THEM THAT FEAR THY NAME, SMALL AND GREAT; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth."

I Cor. 3:15: Paul told the CARNAL CHRISTIANS, " is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; EVERY MAN'S work shall be made manifest: for THE DAY ('that day,' first day of the Millennium) shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try EVERY MAN'S work of what sort it is, If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned he shall suffer loss: but HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; YET SO AS BY FIRE." Whatever rewards the carnal Christians deserve are handed out at the Judgment Seat of Christ on the first day of the Millennium. Therefore, I don't think that the carnal Christians will be judged at the Great White Throne Judgment at the end of the Millennium.

When Miriam murmered against her brother, Moses, she was only shut out of the camp SEVEN DAYS. Nu. 12:14 says, "let her be shut out of the camp seven days, and after that let her be received in again." It is fitting that Miriam means "bitterness of the sea" (nations). The beast out of the sea (Rev. 13:1) will rule during the Tribulation. His kingdom is full of darkness (Rev. 16:10). Her seven days make a good type of the Tribulation. She seems to be a type of the foolish virgins that are shut out of the camp for a portion of the Tribulation.

Bill said, "At the end of the seventh millennium, they will be allowed entry into the New Heavenly Jerusalem because they will have confessed and repented of their sins during the previous thousand years of separation and isolation."

However, Rev. 7:14-16 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation (between the breaking of the sixth and seventh seals), and HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES, AND MADE THEM WHITE IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB. Therefore are they BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD. and serve him day and night IN HIS TEMPLE: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell AMONG THEM. They shall hunger no more...and God shall WIPE AWAY ALL TEARS from their eyes." If their tears are all wiped away as the Millennium begins, I don't think they will be weeping and wailing during the 1000 years, as Bill thinks. I think 2300 days of the Tribulation is enough time for them to repent and confess their sins. These are the multitude that "no man could number, of all nations" (v. 9). If Bill is right that the carnal Christians can't be numbered, then these carnal Christians have already washed their robes by the time of the second Rapture.

Rev. 20:4-6: "I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is HE THAT HATH PART IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION...they SHALL BE PRIESTS of God and of Christ, AND SHALL REIGN WITH HIM A THOUSAND YEARS." It seems that all FIRSTFRUITS will reign with Christ 1000 years.

I Cor. 15:22 says, "But EVERY MAN in his own order (tagmati, rank): Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming." Bill does understand about the ranks in the First Resurrection.

I think ALL believers are part of the first resurrection, "the resurrection of life" (John 5:28) and they shall reign 1000 years. I think the spiritual believers will be caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture, the carnal believers in the Pre-Wrath Rapture. Rom. 5:9 says, "being now justified by his blood, we shall be SAVED FROM WRATH through him." All believers' names are in the book of life. I believe that all left in the graves at the second Rapture will be part of "the resurrection of damnation" (Jn. 5:28) at the end of the Millennium. Their names are not written in the book of life. Our names stay in the book of life. It is not empty.

The stars (star performers) are still in Jesus' hand in the Preview of the first Rapture (Rev. 1:13,16). The others are around him. Lu. 14:8-10 may give us a clue that those most deserving will be closest to the Lord. It says, "When thou art bidden of any man to a WEDDING, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room. But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee." These things may be hints about the arrangement of saints at the Holy City.


Bill Wingo understands that there are ranks in the first resurrection, OT saints, Church saints and Tribulation saints. He just doesn't understand that all saints up to that time are raised as the Millennium begins. I don't think that any SAINTS are left to be raised after the Millennium. The SAINTS will rule with him 1000 years.

I agree with Bill's main conclusion that only the spiritual believer will be taken up in the Pre-Trib Rapture. I believe the carnal believers will be left behind, but only during the Tribulation, not during the Millennium.

At the first Rapture, there are two classes of believers, spiritual and carnal. It seems that the spiritual saints enter Heaven's door and the carnal believers are left outside, so they stay on Earth.

At the second Rapture, there are also these two classes of believers. All are caught up to Heaven to escape God's wrath. However, only the spiritual ones seem to go through the door to the Marriage of the Lamb. The carnal ones seem to only be called to the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.

It is imperative that we be ready when Christ comes. Our time is short. The matter is urgent. In Lu. 12:35, the Tribulation saints are told, "Let your loins be girded about (i.e., white garments), and your lights (lamps) burning." That goes for us too. See the Parable of the ten virgins in Mt. 25 and what Jesus said to the Laodiceans in Rev. 3:14-22. The lamps of the foolish virgins were sputtering. We have to have enough oil of the Holy Spirit or we are going to be awfully sorry. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. The sad sad words then will be, "It might have been." Now is the time for us all to get right with God.

Gal. 6:7-9 says, "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption: but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. And let us not be weary in well doing: for in DUE SEASON we shall reap, if we faint not."

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