Pro and Con 371

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Thank you very much for answering my questions! First I think I should tell you a little about myself. My name is ---- and I am 20 years old. I grew up in a religious but not Christian family. I attended a private Christian elementary school for 10 years. I also went to a United Church on and off. At the time I thought I really was a Christian. There was no doubt in my mind. I had asked God to come into my heart. I was very involved with the youth group and was very happy. Then around age 16 something happened. I gradually went away from the lifestyle and God. For the past four years I haven't been living the life of a Christian at all. And only lately did I start to miss living for God. Which brings me to my first question. Was I always a Christian or can you "unbecome" one? I know that God says he will never leave you, but how can I call myself a Christian and act the complete opposite?

I had a discussion with a Pastor at my friend's church who told me that if you aren't living a Godly life then you were never a Christian at all. But don't Christians make mistakes too? I was wondering what you thought of that.

This really scares me because I know I believe in God and I want to live my life the way I should. But I don't really know what to do. Do I just ask him to forgive my sins and he will do it. The problem is, is that I have felt this way many times before but only for a day or two and then went back to my lifestlye. So what if I wasn't a Christian to begin with? And how do I know?

Your email was very helpful but I must say that I don't really know that much about the bible. I was a little confused by your reference to wise virgins and foolish virgins. Are they different degrees of Christians?

I have been hearing a lot about the rapture and I am very scared of what will happen. From what I have heard this is how I think it will happen. God will come back and take all the Christians to heaven. But will that happen before or after the antichrist has come into power? And will the Christians be around when the mark of the beast comes into affect? Also what happens to people left behind? Are they given a second chance to accept Jesus as their saviour? Or is that what you were talking about when you mentioned wise and foolish virgins?

I guess I can babble alot and I'm know I've asked you a lot of questions here, but I'm just really scared and I really don't have anyone to ask these questions. Then I was searching the net and saw your website and it like it was speaking directly to me.

I would greatly appreciate any help you could give me. Thank you very much

My reply

> I had asked God to come into my heart.

You have to accept Jesus, not just God. If I was at all unsure, I would do it again. (I did do it again when I decided to turn my whole life over to Christ. At that time, I asked him what he wanted me to do for him.)

You can't afford to be unsure. Romans 10:9,10 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

> Was I always a Christian or can you "unbecome" one?

You can't "unbecome" one. Once born into God's family, you can't get unborn. However, you can lose rewards if you do not live the Christian life. You will be very sorry later on. This life is a test to see if we will obey God or not. Believe me, I want to pass my test with flying colors. The rewards are better than anything we can imagine. I Corinthians 2:9 says, "Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him."

> how can I call myself a Christian and act the complete opposite?

Christians can be either spiritual or carnal. It is hard to tell a carnal Christian from a nonbeliever.

> I know I believe in God

That is not enough. I John 2:23 says, "Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."

> Do I just ask him to forgive my sins and he will do it.

First, make sure you pray and say that you do believe in Christ, that you definitely accept him and want him to be your own personal Saviour. If you didn't ask Christ into your heart before, all your old sins will be wiped off the books. You can start from there and only need to confess sins committed after you accept Christ.

If you have asked Christ to come into your heart before, you would need to confess the known sins committed since that time. I John 1:9 says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

> wise virgins and foolish virgins. Are they different degrees of Christians?

Read Matthew 25:1-13. All are Christians for they are classed as pure as virgins. All their lamps are lit (dormant spirits are kindled to life). However, five of them are confessing their sins and living in fellowship with the Lord. Like Enoch and Moses, they walk with God. They are therefore filled with the oil of the Holy Spirit in their vessels (bodies). They are ready and will be the ones chosen as the Bride of Christ at the time of the Rapture, which is not far off now. Some think it could be this fall, but I think next spring, on Pentecost, is most likely.

The five foolish virgins are out of fellowship with God because of sin. Sin causes a barrier between us and our holy God. The level of the Holy Spirit goes down in us. At that point, we are quenching the Holy Spirit. We are not lost, but we are not going to win the prize of being chosen as the Bride of Christ. The Bride gets the best rewards. If they repent and confess their sins, they will become wise virgins. The Holy Spirit will well up within them like a fountain of living water. One of the commands found in the New Testament is to be filled with the Holy Spirit.

> Rapture...will that happen before or after the antichrist has come into power?

There are two Raptures, one before, one after, but you want to aim to be taken up in the first rank, in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture. It is a prize worth working for.

> will the Christians be around when the mark of the beast comes into affect?

Yes, some will be around, ones that did not get caught up in the first Rapture. The False Prophet will try to have them killed. There will be martyrs in that day. The sad thing is that many could have been caught up in the first Rapture, but neglected to confess their sins in time. They will have to do it later, so it is much better to do it now.

> what happens to people left behind? Are they given a second chance to
> accept Jesus as their saviour?

There are both carnal Christians and unbelievers that will get left behind. The carnal Christians are living according to the flesh and the world. They will get with it and confess their sins and be caught up in the Pre-Wrath Rapture on the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord. That is at the end of the shortened Tribulation, shortened or no flesh would be saved (Mt. 24:22).

The unbelievers will have a chance to accept Christ. However, they may have to be martyrs or they may believe a lie. II Thess. 2:8-10 says, "And then shall that Wicked (Satan possessed False Prophet) be revealed (after the Pre-Trib Rapture), whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." It is not safe to wait. We must get right with God now while there is time.

After getting right with God, when we are filled with the Holy Spirit, we are earning rewards. We are sending treasures ahead to heaven. I don't want to end up at the Judgment Seat of Christ aghast at what I lost that I could have had. Instead, I want to be thrilled beyond measure with what rewards I have been able to earn.

It takes some effort, some dedication, some resolve on our part, but we are not operating all on our own. We Christians always have Christ indwelling us and helping us along the way. He will help as much as we will let him. He just requires that we accept him, love him, and obey him. Very simply put, we should walk humbly with our God. We can walk the Christian walk, which is one step at a time, knowing that he is with us every step of the way.

Please write me again and tell me what you have decided to do. You are at a crossroads in your life. You must exercise your will and make some decisions. I'll help all I can. In His love

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The P&C 369 got me to thinking about something I have both read and been told about Jewish wedding customs. Those at the actual marriage ceremony can be as few as the bride, groom, both sets of parents, and their rabbi. I have been under the impression that immediately after the wedding ceremony, the bride and groom go into the bridal chamber for 7 days to consummate the marriage. After 7 days, they come out, the guests are called, and the Wedding Supper and celebration take place. I was taught that that 7 days was equal to 7 years -- relating to the time or duration of the Tribulation.

I have assumed that the "guests" to the Wedding Supper were the raptured Tribulation Saints along with resurrected "carnal" saints. But you said that just after the second rapture, the "worthy" Tribulation Saints will participate in the Marriage of the Lamb, while all the rest of the raptured saints watch on. They then celebrate with the Wedding Supper. Do they not have a 7 day "consummation" period? I believe that it was said this was to prove the bride a virgin. I realize you have said that we are in the proving time now; that we should stay 'fessed up and prayed up to be counted "worthy".

It seems unbelievable to me that ANY believer during the Tribulation could be a carnal one. With all that is going on in the world at that time, how could they be lukewarm? It seems to me that the Tribulation saints will come out of the ordeal stronger than those of us on this side of the Tribulation.

Could you enlighten me on any of this? God bless you and Ed, and your son and his family now. I know times are hard for you, but God is able to sustain and refresh and provide for all our needs....

Thank you, again, for all your hard work. God's richest blessings are yours in abundance. Love in Him

My reply

> you said that just after the second rapture, the "worthy" Tribulation Saints will
> participate in the Marriage of the Lamb, while all the rest of the raptured
> saints watch on.

I don't remember saying that. I know I said, "It sounds like the 144,000 Israelites will be the last which shall be first, for "NO MAN could learn that song" but the 144,000." That "NO MAN" seems to shut out from the Marriage anyone else from the Tribulation era, even the martyrs.

After the first Rapture, the church saints sing "a new song" (Rev. 5:9). Then after the 2300-day Tribulation, the 144,000 sing "as it were a new song before the throne...and the elders: and NO MAN could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand" (Israelites) (Rev. 14:1-5). The new song is mentioned in Psa. 98:1-3: "O SING unto the LORD a new song: for he hath done marvellous things: his right hand (Christ, Isa. 48:13), and his holy arm (also Christ, Isa. 52:10; 53:1) hath gotten him the victory. The LORD hath made known his salvation: his righteousness hath he openly shewed in the sight of the heathen. He hath remembered his mercy and his truth toward the HOUSE OF ISRAEL." That ties in with the 144,000 in Rev. 7.

> They then celebrate with the Wedding Supper. Do they n have a 7 day "consummation"
> period? I believe that it was said this was to prove the bride a virgin.

The espousal was normally a year to prove the bride a virgin. I believe that the consummation of the age is in the 7th year of the Tribulation, also that the Marriage of the Lamb is on the first day of the 7th millennium. That may be how the 7-day consummation period ties in. The Bride will rule with Christ 1000 years, i.e., during the 7th millennium.

Thanks for all your kind words.

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Iv'e Never Heard about 2 asteroids striking the earth in the year 2007 , did you get that from the bible?

It will be Intertesting to see what will happen in August of 1999 and the Years 2000 and 2007. According to Nostradamus WW3 would come this month or some time in the next few years and I think it would be Associated with the 3rd Anti-Christ they refer to in The Revelation...then during a certain point in WW3 or Armagedon Jesus Christ returns and Judges the Nations of the Earth. And about the Comets in 2007 isn't the destruction of Babylon the Destruction of America? Some people beleive that because God Describes them so much like the usa.

My reply

Yes. The asteroid is probably a binary like Toutatis. When it hits the Roche Limit about 11,000 miles out, it will probably break into two main pieces and release lots of smaller chunks. Here are some scriptures.

Rev. 8:8: "And the second angel sounded (a trumpet), and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea (the Mediterranean, Zeph. 2:4,5)."

Rev. 8:10: "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star (aster, star, asteroid or meteor) from heaven, burning as it were a lamp."

Isa. 22:16-19: "What hast thou here? (World Church and World Gov't headquarters at literal Babylon on the Euphrates River in Iraq) and whom hast thou here (False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high (first on his planet Rahab, later on a piece of it), and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. He will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country (Iraq): there shalt thou die (the Lake of Fire forms there), and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

> According to Nostradamus WW3 would come this month

Just go by the Bible, or you can be misled.

> I think it would be Associated with the 3rd Anti-Christ they refer to in The Revelation

What do you mean, the 3rd Anti-Christ? There is the Satanic Trinity, the Beast, the False Prophet, and Satan.

> ...then during a certain point in WW3 or Armagedon Jesus Christ returns

Armageddon can't take place until after Christ returns, and he returns 7 months after the united nations' army under Gog attacks Israel (Eze. 38; 39:12).

> isn't the destruction of Babylon the Destruction of America?

Babylon is not the USA. The world church is to have "an house in the land of Shinar" (Zech. 5:11). That is where the Tower of Babel was built (Gen. 11:2). It is Babylon in Iraq.

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Marilyn Agee, I see the Lord confirming our time for the rapture, preparing his body because corruption must put on incorruption and mortality must put on immortality.If you study the bible closely you will see that God has a set time for ALL prophecy.It is most important right now that we know where we are on Heavens clock.Marilyn you are sounding the trumpet now Loud , God Bless you! The time of the rapture is being reveiled now.I am paying close attention on an hourly bases to see what the Lord would have me to do, Iam also beginning to enter into his rest now.My prayer is for the body of Christ to be ready even now. WE must let everything go that hinders! In his Love! ---- Ps. pentecost 2000 is what God has put on my heart for the rapture. God sets the dates!

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Thanks for all the information , i guess you've answered all my questions oh and when i said the 3rd anti-christ that is refering to nostradamus...the 2 major anti-christs so far have been Napoleon and Hitler but it's questionable. Thanks again

My reply

We can trust the Bible. I John 2:18-22 says, "Little children (i.e., the last generation), it is the last time (year, Rev. 12:6,14): and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But ye have an unction (anointing) from the Holy One, and ye know ALL THINGS...Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."

When I turned to that, I noticed this in the next chapter. I John 3:1-3 says, "BEHOLD, what manner of love the FATHER hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the SONS OF GOD: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the SONS OF GOD, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he (the Father in the Lord Jesus Christ, II Cor. 5:19, I Tim. 3:16) shall appear (at the Rapture), we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this HOPE (the 'blessed hope,' Tit. 2:13) in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure."

We are SONS OF GOD by adoption (Gal. 4:5). R.B. Thieme, Jr. thinks we will each one bump one demon. It could be that we will each not only bump one such fallen angel (called a son of God because each was individually created by God), but will replace them in the government of God. We are to be kings and priests and reign over the Earth (Rev. 5:10).

"Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord" (Heb. 12:14).

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...You seem to know alot more than I do about God and the Bible so let me explain my problem to you...I am 14 years old and for the most part of my life i have been a VERY bad sinner. I didn't pray, read the bible, or go to church and i didn't even really know God. It was only in the past few weeks when reading up sites on Nostradamus that I realized i have to stop sinning and start praying and reading the bible. I think the reason i ever was a bad sinner is because my parents aren't religous at all. They don't go to church and they read the bible a little but who knows how long ago...and I'm pretty sure neither one of them has prayed much their whole adult life. But anyway i have done some very bad sins such as stealing and cursing the name of God. After reading most of the New Testiment and some of the Old i feel really bad about my whole life and wish i could start over because i didn't know God at all until now. I mean i feel so bad i would give my life for any person on all of the earth and i really mean that becuase iv'e been so bad in the past i dont care if i live or die and i dont care how i die. For about the past 2 or 3 weeks iv'e been reading the bible almost every night and also have prayed everyday for forgivness.I have probably cut my sins down by about 95 to 98 percent , And i would like to do good things to make up for all the bad things iv'e done but i cant really do anything since i'm only 14. And to be honest I can't wait to see if Nostradamus is right about ww3 in August or whenever there will be a war becuase maybe i could actually get to suffer some for my sins , then i would feel better. And then I think about how much other people are suffering around the world and I feel like i would like to join them becuase my whole life iv'e always had shelter and food and clothes , etc. And i was such a bad person that i didn't deserve it. And i dont deserve the computer that i write this to you from. You seemed like the right person to tell this to so i spilled it all out in the e-mail. What do you think?

My reply

Did you pray and tell the Lord that you accept Jesus as your own personal Saviour?

If not, please do so to make it definite. Write down the date of your spiritual birthday. Tell someone of your decision. Rom. 10:9,10 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

John 3:16-18 says, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

At that point all your old sins will be wiped off the books. You will get a fresh start. You can forget your old sins. You become a new person. Any new sins after you accept Christ will need to be confessed to keep your spiritual white robe. It is necessary to be caught up in the coming Rapture. Sins spot our fresh white robes. You want to use I John 1:9: "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

Isaiah 59:2 says, "But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear." The way to have your prayers heard is to accept Christ. Then your prayers will be heard. Or, if you have already accepted Christ, to confess your sins since that time. We have a holy God, and we need to come to him and ask to have our sins washed away so we can have fellowship with Him.

Sin causes a barrier between us and God. The Holy Spirit is being quenched. At this point, if we confess our sins (those committed after accepting Christ), he is faithful and just to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Then the Holy Spirit, as living water within us, wells up and fills us. At that point, we should be pure virgins with enough oil to be taken up in the Rapture.

At the Rapture, Jesus, who is the Bridegroom coming for his white-robed Bride, "shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord" (I Thess. 4:16,17).

The terrible seven-year Tribulation is approaching. It will start when the final status seven-year covenant of peace is confirmed, signed, by a man of Rome and a leader from Israel. It will be the worst seven years since there was a nation. You don't want to be here then. Jesus has given us a chance to escape to Heaven before the Tribulation begins. He said, "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also" (John 14:2,3).

Rev. 3:10,11 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee FROM (ek, out of) the hour of temptation (peirasmos, trial, i.e., the Tribulation), which shall (after the Rapture) come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Behold, I come quickly (at the Rapture): hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown." Crowns are given at the Pre-Trib Rapture.

Luke 21:36 says, "WATCH ye therefore, and PRAY ALWAYS, that ye may be ACCOUNTED WORTHY to ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS (the Tribulation) that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." The word for escape is EKPHEUGO, "escape OUT OF or AWAY FROM." We get our word EXIT from the prefix, "EK." Strong's gives "vanish" as an alternate meaning for EKPHEUGO.

When you read the Bible, start with John and read through to the end. Then start with Isaiah and read to John. After that, start with Genesis and read to Isaiah. Why? John wrote to prove that Jesus was God in the flesh. In John 20:31, he said, "these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." After that, the New Testament tells you how to walk the Christian walk. Then, when you get to Revelation, you get an outline of things to come. It is written as if the Rapture is at hand. You will see that it is "at hand" in both the first and last chapters, in Rev. 1:3 and 22:10. Jesus signs of with, "Surely I come quickly." We are at that point now. The Rapture is not far off.

After Revelation, you will read many OT prophecies that you can fit into the outline found in Revelation. After knowing what the prophecies are, when you start at the beginning and read Israel's history, you will see that the Lord had them play out many dramatic skits to show us how to understand prophecy.

Please let me know of your decision. When you have questions, I will do my best to answer them. I have been studying the Bible as deep as I can go since before 1960.

May God bless you abundantly. In His love

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