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FWD: Re: eclipse anomaly: ISSUE 1540 Friday 13 August 1999
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Astronomers baffled by dark streaks across sky
By Aisling Irwin, Science Correspondent, in Guernsey

...ASTRONOMERS admitted yesterday that they are unable to explain a strange phenomenon which appeared in the sky just before and after the total eclipse.
Long, dark streaks across the sky baffled watchers, including people on the Channel Island of Alderney. BBC Radio Guernsey was inundated with calls yesterday morning from those who had witnessed them. One caller said she had taken a video recording, but when she watched the tape later, the streaks had vanished.
Prof Donald Lynden-Bell, an astronomer at Cambridge University, said the bands appeared at right angles to the direction of the Moon's shadow. He said: "It appeared to be a line across the sky and a darkening of the cloud about two fingers wide. It struck me as odd."
Prof Mark Bailey, director of the Armagh Observatory in Northern Ireland, said: "I haven't seen anything in the literature that could explain it." Prof Lynden-Bell witnessed the spectacle some 20 minutes before totality, and saw another band which stretched two thirds of the way across the sky after totality.
Prof Phil Charles, of Oxford University, said: "I was taking wide-angle pictures, looking with my 17mm lens, and I saw this dark band that went across a large fraction of the sky. It puzzled me because it was roughly perpendicular to the direction of the Moon's shadow." Paul Sutherland, of the Society for Popular Astronomy, said: "It was very strange. I didn't know what they were and I have been an amateur astronomer for years." Some reported that the bands sank gradually downwards. Dr Simon Mitton, astronomy specialist at Cambridge University Press, said the bands must have been shadows cast on to the low cloud by condensation trails from the two Concordes which tracked the path of the eclipse. "The uneclipsed Sun is very, very bright and normally there is insufficient contrast for you to see the shadow of a high cloud being cast on a lower one.
"The Sun's brightness is greatly turned down because of an eclipse - which makes the contrast easier. Nobody has ever reported seeing this in an eclipse. It is a rare meteorological phenomenon."
But Dr Helen Walker, of the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, in Oxfordshire, who saw four bands, dismissed this theory. She said: "This was a uniform band of shadow and there was no shearing. You might get one such trail, but not four." She believes it resulted from ice crystals forming.

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Thanks for passing the news along to me. Ed just brought me our morning newspaper, Press-Enterprise, Aug. 17, 1999, and pointed out a surprise to astronomers.

The first page/back page article: "Palomar star search spots light that stumps experts. Object's spectrum never before seen," by John Noble Wilford, New York Times News Service, is very interesting.

Astronomers have admitted that "Now, they have an unyielding mystery on their hands, something they have observed and pondered for three years, a point of light deep in the northern sky that appears to be like nothing seen before." Its spectrum is like nothing else they have ever seen.

They are beginning to sympathize with those who tried to read hieroglyphice without the Rosetta Stone, because they can't tell what it is. There is nothing familiar about its light spectrum. S. George Djorgovski, astronomer at the California Institute of Technology, led the Digital Palomar Sky Survey of the entire northern sky that found the mystery object. He said, "I've never seen a spectrum anything like this, and I take spectra for a living."

The newspaper published three spectra, of a star like our sun, of a typical quasar, and of this mystery object. You don't have to be an expert to see that it is totally different from the other two.

It may be the first evidence of an entirely new cosmic phenomenon. The light signature of a normal star is much simpler. A distant galaxy would have a very different pattern. If it is a quasar, it is beyond current understanding. Wallace Sargent, Caltech astronomer and quasar specialist who is director of Palomar Observatory, said, "It doesn't look like a quasar to my eye."

Astronomers suspect that this starlike light, hundreds of times brighter than its associated galaxy, may be the aftereffects of a gamma-ray burst. Djorgovsky said, "This was the first one of something new, and a complete mystery to us."

Not only do they not know what this light is, they don't even know how far away it is. If you find out exactly where in the northern sky this light appeared, please let me know. This article does not mention any constellations, or even which sector of the northern sky it is in.

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Your time frames are interesting.

Have you viewed the sky maps over Jerusalem for August 11, September 11, May 5, 2000, and the June 2000 time periods?

The Sky Map website is: http://www.fourmilab.ch/yoursky/#Skymap

Click on "Set for nearby city" and look up Jerusalem. By typing in Jerusalem time at sunrise or sunset, converting from UTC time, you get some REALLY AWESOME star maps. (Example: type in 3:00:00 to get 6AM Jerusalem time -- Jerusalem is 3 hours ahead of UTC). Or you can just adjust the times to find out when sunrise or sunset would be in Jerusalem.

On many of these maps on these dates, both the Big Dipper and Little Dipper are dipping to the earth (harvesting?) at the same time. You can also clearly see the "pearl necklace." You can view the sky overhead, or you can view from the horizon (views to North and East are especially interesting). Pisces (fish) and Leo (lion) are clearly visible. Don't know what all this means, maybe you do?

Also, I'm sure you knew that between the solar eclipse of August 11 and the planetary alignment of May 5 2000 is nine months, or the human pregnancy period (birth pangs?).

Also, in 1967 was the Six-Day War, specifically, June 6-11 - corresponding to your June 9-11 2000 time period very neatly.

Just thought I would pass these along to you. DO PLEASE check out the star maps: I would be interested in reading your comments on your Bible Prophecy Corner....

Thanks for keeping us posted.

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Thanks. I have been there before, but I have a planisphere for Lat. 42N. It only differs at the top and bottom a little from Jerusalem's Lat. 31N. Recheck the big and little dippers. Don't their handles face nearly opposite directions?

What I find interesting at midnight on June 10 is that the big dipper, or greater sheepfold, is spilling its sheep out of the dipper and down the handle directly to Bootes, the coming shepherd. His arm is stretched out toward the sheep with a harvest sickle in his hand too, and we are also the wheat harvest. Bootes is where the huge gamma ray burster was seen on Jan. 23, 1999.

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I read your book "Heaven Found", very well done. Another book "A Divine Revelation of hell" by Baxter also pinpoints shemayim (heaven) as a planet, although Mrs Baxter does not specify it.

I don't know if you are "open" to ideas in Apocryphial books, but there is something very interesting in the Book of Enoch: Chapter 33; 3 I saw there heavenly gates opening into heaven; three of them distinctly separated. The northern winds proceeded from them, blowing cold, hail, frost, snow, dew, and rain. 4From one of the gates they blew mildly; but when they blew from the two other gates, it was with violence and force. They blew over the earth strongly. Ch 34,,, 2 From there I went to the extremities of heaven eastwards; where I saw three heavenly gates open to the east, which had smaller gates within them. Through each of these small gates the stars of heaven passed on, and proceeded towards the west by a path which was seen by them, and that at every period of their appearance.

The Book of Enoch goes on to mention gates of heaven; about heavenly bodies & the significance of what gate they appear in and exited through the sky. Solomon's Temple , which was 'patterened after the things in the heavenlies', also served as a calendar generating structure. The appearance of a star, comet, the moon, the sun in a particular Temple gate had impact on human events (history) as well as temporal (time) significance and could be determined by the priest.

Heavenly events ("signs in moon, stars & sun") are of great significance. The Hale-Bopp comet has been calculated as having an orbital period of between 3500-4200 yr. Either number is significant (the uncertainty in the calculations derive from planetary gravitational "tugs" making exact calculations difficult). 3,500 = 50 X 70 seventy jubilees, both numbers are highly significant scripturally. This orbital period of 3,500 yr. harkens back to king David and thus symbolizes the return of the House of David (Yeshua). An orbital period of 4,200 yr. represents it's being here last in the time of NOAH (When the righteous were lifted above---by water {-The Holy Spirit-} and as such represents a type, foreshadow and similitude of the rapture.

The Hale-Bopp comet is also very different from others. If one were to observe our solar system from the side, it would appear somewhat like a set of dishes within dishes (wheels within wheels). Most comets enter & leave the solar system on the same plane as the planets. The Hale Bopp is significantly different in that it entered our solar system from above (from the north & scripture indicates the symbolism of things coming in from the north).

Let's assume that the Hale Bopp was (is) indeed a Divine sign, and that it has great meaning, indeed representing the word of G-d. Then we recall Isaiah 55: 11 "so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it". In late Oct. early Nov. 1999 the Hale-Bopp Comet will intersect the orbital path of Saturn (heaven). So many potentially disruptive phenomena are set for this period (The Leonid meteor showers, y2k, & the peak of the 11 year solar storm / sun spot cycle) that it is difficult to imagine that humanity will pass through this period unscathed.

It appears that the beginning of great tribulation is slated for Nov. 1999.

...I believe great miracles will preceed the rapture. I, like you, believe the rapture will preceed the tribulation period. Keep up your great work. May Ad-nai greatly Bless you and your loved ones.

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

I don't go by anything but the Bible, but other accounts are interesting to read. The only thing is, they may be right and they may not. The Bible is pure truth.

It is interesting that Hale-Bopp will intersect the orbital path of Saturn in late Oct/early Nov., 1999. Do you know where Saturn and Hale-Bopp will be in relation to each other? We will see Saturn in Aries, but where will Hale-Bopp be? It looks like Saturn will be on the border of Aries and Taurus next Pentecost.

No matter what happens in the seven good years, it won't be as bad as what happens in the seven bad ones. I shudder to think that some will throw away their chance to get out of here before the Tribulation begins--and for what? With any perspective at all, they should realize that nothing is worth losing the best prize of all, the one Paul was working hard to earn, the chance to be chosen as the Bride of Christ and be caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture.

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I hope things are going well for you & your loved ones & I am very glad, that you cling tightly to your "oil", especially in these last days. Your web site is true inspiration, courage, may Ad-nai greatly bless you. I hope somehow that after the impending rapture, that your assessments remain for surely as scripture says: John 9:4, "I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work."

Regarding the Hale-Bopp, this is a most amazing comet. As you are likely aware if we can picture our solar system, "from the side", it would, for purposes of simplified discussion, look like a horizontal line. Superimposed on this, the Hale-Bopp, would look something like the letter "C" or perhaps a "greater than" symbol "<". The horizontal line, piercing either symbol in its mid-section. Diagramatically this indicates that the Hale-Bopp' inbound trajectory comes in at a steep angle, "from the high north" or "above" and receeds away from the earth from below, on it's outward bound trajectory. What all this means is that when the H-B was approaching the sun, people in the northern Hemisphere could see it; and now on its outward bound course, it is the people in the Southern Hemisphere who can see it. For a while now, telescopes in Australia & New Zealand have tracked it.

As previously noted, the H-B will intersect the orbital path of Saturn in late October, early November, 1999. The 12 more famous mazzaroth (Ref.: Job38:32 "Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth (constellations) in his season?) of theNorthern Hemisphere would of course have corresponding segments "reflected" into the Southern Hemisphere, but with different names. If I were to make a guess, I would suppose that the outward bound trajectory of the H-B as seen from the Southern Hemisphere is likely the area of the "Southern Cross". In what constellation the Southern Cross corresponds to its Northern Hemisphere counterpart, I don't know, but likely a simple web search might reveal the connection.

The H-B is likely the most seen (both hemisphere's), most pictured comet in all of human History. It poured out more water upon the earth, hundreds of thousands of tons, than any other celestial object ever known. It is virtually unique, in that its orbital constant is not constant as is usually the case as per Keppler's laws of celestial motion. It's inbound trajectory afforded it a 4200 year periodicity; its outward bound trajectory, due to gravitational tugs from Jupiter, provide for a periodicity of 2400 years.

I know you have strong affections for Shavuot (Pentecost) for being the appropriate time for the rapture, and it may be so. I tend to favor The Feast of Firstfruits (Nisan 16--April 21), 2000. I base this "hunch" partly on the intersection of the H-B with Saturn. I like you also believe this to be the location of Heaven; but for reasons above I believe that the late Oct/ early Nov 1999 intersection date (this date was calculated in late 1997), will be somewhat modified (delayed) due to the H-B slowing down after it passed Jupiter (due to Jupiter's massive gravitational pull). I suspect that a revised date of the end of December, 1999 is more appropriate. Her's where things get interesting. I, like you, believe that we will be given advanced warning of the rapture. We know that the end times are associated with Noah. Noah had two "advanced notices". #1= Genesis 7:4, "For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth." and #2 Noah had 120 years to build the ark. We know that sometimes days are symbolic of years & vice versa. With this in mind, we observe with great interest two passages from scripture: John 4:35, "Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.". The Biblical month is 30 days, thus 4 months = 120 days (same 120 as Noah, but instead of years, in our case it is days). And as we realize harvest = rapture Scripture #2: Hosea 6:2 "After two days he will revive us (Since a day = 1000 yr. in the L-rd's sight, it has been 2 full days of Yeshua's death); on the third day (commencing in the year 2000) he will restore us (great miracles precede the rapture), that we may live in his presence (the rapture). 3Let us acknowledge the L-RD; let us press on to acknowledge him. As surely as the sun rises, he will appear; he will come to us like the winter rains (We will likely have 4 months warning & great miracles before the rapture). The winter rains come to Israel in December (Hebrew month Tebeth). This makes the timing absolutely perfect & in harmony with the 2 above scriptures. 4 months (120 days) from December 21 is April 21, Nisan 16, the same Feast Day when Yeshua arose.

Two reasons I believe there will be great miracles preceeding the rapture are: Ps72:6He will be like rain (MIRACLES) falling on a field BEFORE BEING mown,{mown : a HARVEST, a RAPTURE OF BELIEVERS!} like showers watering the earth (MIRACLES) B4 THE RAPTURE!!. Interpretation: Rain is the Holy Spirit, MOWN FIELD SYMBOLIZES a Harvest that just happened, i.e. The RAPTURE! RAIN (MIRACLES) BEFORE THE RAPTURE!!

Even though the following verse speaks about faith it is a prophesy for our time; someone(s) will actually do it for the glory of G-d: Matthew 21:21, "Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done."

The second is a little more personal, it involves a personal vision, from the time I was a young boy & a prophetic word spoken of me by a very pious & holy Messianic Rabbi, who has brought the Gospel to literally millions of people in Russia.

As I say, I know you have personal affection for Pentecost as the day of rapture & far be it from me to try & alter the mammoth amount of work you have accomplished. I want to thank and encourage you for you incredible work. Whatever happens we know two things with certainty for our immediate future: Matthew 24:32-34, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors." and 2 Timothy 4:8, "Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the L-rd, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing."

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Thanks for all those nice things you said. May the Lord bless you and yours.

> corresponding segments "reflected" into the Southern Hemisphere, but with
> different names

I may misunderstand what you mean by this, but the patterns of the stars are seemingly constant. It takes more than one man's lifetime to see any movement. With sensitive instruments, they have been able to detect movement, but we assume that they are fixed in place. What people see in the northern hemisphere is different from what they see in the southern hemisphere, except there is some overlap. Some things are seen by both.

> It poured out more water upon the earth, hundreds of thousands of tons,
> than any other celestial object ever known.

Wow! that is very interesting. I knew that our upper atmosphere gets hit with about six small water comets every day, but I didn't know that a large comet just passing by dumped a load of water on us. How did you find out?

> I tend to favor The Feast of Firstfruits (Nisan 16--April 21), 2000.

It would make sense, because the head of the Body of Christ did ascend that day. However, he also returned that day, and that trip was not emphasized much. Also, it is in Nisan, the month of the latter rain. Song of Sol. 2:10-14 says that winter is past and the rain is over and gone.

Ascension Day, 40 days later, would seem more likely to me, because he did not return that time and because Nisan was over.

It is just that Israel was espoused to the Lord when the first trump of the Bible sounded at Sinai on/near Pentecost. Things that happened to Israel are types for us here at the end of the age.

> you, believe that we will be given advanced warning of the rapture.

At least, I am thinking it is possible because of the similarity to the days of Noah.

> he will come to us like the winter rains

I notice that the NIV translates it "winter rains" and "spring rains," but Green's Interlinear has "as the latter (and) former rain to the earth." The former rain is in Tishri. I think Jesus was born Tishri 1. The latter rain is in Nisan. I think the Second Advent will be Nisan 1, as in Eze. 29:17,21. Verse 19 has "in the first month, in the first day of the month." From Eze. 45:18,21, we can tell that it is Nisan because it also mentions the passover. Then Eze. 29:21 says, "In that day will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth (i.e., Logos, Word) in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD (YHVH)." That is the perfect time for the return of the King of kings and Lord of lords because it is the beginning of both the Jewish Regnal Year and Sacred Year.

> Ps72:6He will be like rain (MIRACLES) falling on a field BEFORE
> BEING mown,{mown : a HARVEST, a RAPTURE OF BELIEVERS!} like showers watering
> the earth (MIRACLES) B4 THE RAPTURE!!. Interpretation: Rain is the Holy
> Spirit, MOWN FIELD SYMBOLIZES a Harvest that just happened, i.e. The RAPTURE!
> RAIN (MIRACLES) BEFORE THE RAPTURE!!

I don't think the rain refers to miracles. Psa. 72:6,7 in Green's Interlinear reads, "He (Christ) shall descend (Second Advent) like rain on the mown grass (after the Day of God's Wrath mows the unbelievers down, Eze. 38:19,20; 39:12,13); like showers that water the earth (like the latter rain of Nisan). In His days the righteous shall flourish, and plenty of peace" (the millennial Day of the Lord).

"All flesh is grass" (Isa. 40:6, KJV).

In De. 11:14 (KJV), the LORD says, "I will give you the rain of your land (Israel) in HIS DUE SEASON (Christ's due season), the first rain and the latter rain."

Job. 37:6 ties in. It says, "For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small rain (First Advent), and to THE GREAT RAIN OF HIS STRENGTH" (Second Advent).

> also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast
> into the sea; it shall be done."

That is a good hint. I think the asteroid of Rev. 8:8 will fall into the Mediterranean Sea, Zeph. 2:4,5, Eze. 38:19,20). I also think that we will have something to do with it. Psa. 149:5-9 says, "Let the saints be joyful IN GLORY (Heaven): let them sing aloud upon their beds. Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand (there are two main pieces of the asteroid, probably a binary, Rev. 8,10); To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people: To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD."

It looks like we will say, "Wherefore should the heathen say, Where is now their God? (Psa. 155:2), and He will save Israel from the united nations' army under Gog that is attacking them on the first day of the Millennium.

Jer. 23:19,20 says, "Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of THE WICKED (one, the False Prophet at Babylon). The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider (biyn, understand) it perfectly."

Zech. 11:17 says, "Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! (moves from Israel to Babylon) the sword ("sword of the Lord," Jer. 47:6; "flaming sword," Gen. 3:24) shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened."

> love his appearing."

You bet. That we can agree on 100%, and that is what counts.

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Thanks for sending me the verses that mentioned six days.

> > [Ezek 46:1.21] Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.> >

That sounds very interesting. The first Rapture could be on the sabbath (Sivan 7, 5760) and I feel certain that the second Rapture is on Rosh HaShanah. Verse 3 says, "Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the DOOR of this gate before the LORD in the sabbaths and in the new moons."

> > [Mark 9:2.3] And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.> >

After six 1000-year days AND after six days of the week fits.

> > [Amos 8:9] "And on that day," says the Lord GOD, "I will make the sun go down at noon, and darken the earth in broad daylight. [the eclipse on August 11th, seen by more people than any in history] > >

This dark day is the first day of the Millennium. As you quoted, verse 10 says, "And I will turn your feasts (it is the Feast of Trumpets) into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation...and the end thereof as a bitter day."

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I hope that this note finds you and Ed doing well!

A thought just came to me a few days ago when I was listening to all the evidence Bonnie Gaunt has found in the Bible codes for a 1st Tishri or Sept 11 rapture. It occurred to me that when Song of Solomon speaks of WINTER being past and the "flowers appear" on the earth that the entire Song of Solomon here may be referring to the past 6000 years of history! Perhaps the last 6000 years ARE a type of WINTER for the world!!!! That it is the 1000 year reign of Christ that will be the earth's SPRING!!!! It's rebirth!

Just a thought.....I keep hearing more and more evidence for a Sept 11 Rosh Hashannah rapture - just listened to a tape by J. R. on the "Days of Old" and it had some pretty convincing stuff for a Sept 11 rapture.

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I know. I hope they are right too, but I am not convinced. The second Rapture is on Rosh HaShanah though.

Christ was resurrected, and the OT saints followed, on the Feast of Firstfruits. I think the Pre-Trib Rapture will be on the next feast, Pentecost. Then the Pre-Wrath Rapture will, I think, be on the following feast, Trumpets.

I don't trust the Bible codes for dates. If that was so, the Rapture would have taken place May 31, 1998. I have two matrixes that made that date seem like that would be it. It wasn't. There are too many dates. Every letter is a number. That is a lot.

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