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Re: lost
Hi Jim. My name is Randall and I have been reading your pros & cons the last two nights and I feel compelled to write this letter. You see I feel as if I no longer have contact with the lord. Back around 1972 I was saved in a little church in Commerce Texas. Or I thought I was. But shortly afterwards I went back to my same old life style. I even got worse. I have sinned every emaginable sin there is. And now I feel so far away and no way to get back. I am worried not only for me but also about my wife, daughter, son-in-law, son and all the rest of my family members.

What I would like to ask of you and your prayer partners is, could you form a prayer group and join in intercessory prayer for me. That the Holy Sperit might be renewed in me. And that I might be able inlighten them and to bring all of them to trust the lord before it is too late. Time is short, PLEASE HURRY!.

I have a hard time talking to my wife because sometimes she is such a skeptic. Pray that the Lord will also give me the courage to speakup and not be afraid. And that she will listen with understanding. I know that time is short and I need lots of prayer. Please pray hard and diligently. I NEED HELP!. Please reply soon. Randall Daniel

My reply

I'm not Jim; I'm Marilyn, but I will try to help. The Pros and Cons are mine. Jim Bramlett corresponds with me a lot. Maybe that is where you picked up on the Jim.

> I feel as if I no longer have contact with the lord.

You are obviously out of fellowship with the Lord. He hasn't been able to get close to you for your sins form a sin barrier between you and our Holy God. Thank God he has made provisions to remedy that situation, and it is as easy as confessing your known sins to God.

I John 1:3-9 says, "...and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. And these things write we unto you, THAT YOUR JOY MAY BE FULL. This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. IF we say that we have FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But IF we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have FELLOWSHIP ONE WITH ANOTHER, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. IF we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. IF we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness."

> I was saved in a little church in Commerce Texas. Or I thought I was.

You probably were, but just to make sure, you may want to pray again and ask Christ to be your own personal Saviour. If you do, write down the date and count it as your spiritual birthday, the day you know for sure that you are born again into God's family. You don't have to do it again. You can trust the Word of God that you are saved from before if you really meant it and believe in Christ in your heart. I like what Paul told the jailer in Rom. 10:9,10. He said, That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

> What I would like to ask of you and your prayer partners is, could you form a prayer
> group and join in intercessory prayer for me. That the Holy Spirit might be renewed in
> me. And that I might be able inlighten them and to bring all of them to trust the lord
> before it is too late.

We certainly will pray for you and with you. I prayed and added you to my prayer list already. I agree with you to pray for your family too. We would like to know what general location you are in so we can be more specific.

Know that the prayer of a righteous man availeth much. James 1:5-7 says, If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord."

> I have a hard time talking to my wife because sometimes she is such a skeptic.

Sometimes it is hard to reach those closest to us with words at first, but when they see the change in our lives, that speaks to them loudly. They will want the inner peace and joy that you have. If they won't listen at first to what you say they should do, you can still make it plain to them that you are making a change in your life. When they see that it is working, they will be more apt to discuss it with you. Pray about each individual. Let the Lord work on it. He is willing, probably just waiting for you to ask for his help. Someone else may talk to them too. The Lord knows what to bring about that will help.

Do you want people to email you? I can post your email address on the Web site if you want me to. Sometimes the Lord will move someone to say just the right thing that can help. Maybe they have gone through just what you are and can lead the way. I will post this without your email address unless you tell me to put it on.

God be with you and lead you every step of the way. We were put on this Earth to decide whether we would accept Christ or not. Our eternal destiny rides on this decision. Nothing is more important--nothing. This life is a test, and God gave us a manual so we could pass the test. It has all the instructions written down for easy reference. Read the New Testament first. It tells us how to walk the Christian walk, and it is not a day at a time, it is one step at a time. Christ said he would never leave us. The Spirit of Christ will dwell in you and guide you into all truth.

God bless you and claim you as his own. In His love

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From South Africa
Thank you once again for your wonderful website, I check for a new P&C every day. There seems to be a lot of "scoffers in the last days" and your replies just clarify everything over and over again. I read with great interest and hope of the possible date of the first Rapture being Cheshvan 17 (October 27, 1999) This seems to make a lot of sense to me in a global way as I think that the next few months could have it's fair share of problems, apart from the Y2K problem, in October there could be a possible movement of the globe, astronomically speaking. In the Spring 2000,( May 5th 2000), the new moon aligns with the Earth, Mercury, Mars, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn, a conjunction which only occurs approximately every 6000 years. Some have postulated a pole shift and/ or violent seismic activity at this time (see the work of Gribben and Plagemann, Tomaschek and others). Interestingly, this conjunction was even commented on by Berossus, a Babylonian astrologer who lived more than 2,300 years ago who, as the Roman poet Seneca recounts 300 years later, predicated that an inundation would take place "when the planets coincided in the sign of Cancer, and be placed that a straight line could pass directly through all their orbs". I think, hope and pray that I will not be around if or when these things should happen, but rather united with my family and loved ones in the arms of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Marilyn please keep up your good works, as I think that you have added a lot more souls to the list of the first Rapture, I know I'll be there and this certainty is thanks to you and the spirit of truth working within you. I pray for the forgivness of my sins and that I will be ready and accounted worthy to ESCAPE perhaps on October 27, 1999.

With kind regards and much love to you and your family.

My reply

Gee, thanks for all those kind words. There are times when some some people try to cut others to ribbons with unkind words, but that is not obeying the Lord's commandment. He said, "This is my commandment, that ye love one another, as I have loved you." Paying attention to this is so important in these latter days. Jesus also said, "Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." Then he repeated, "These things I command you, that ye love one another" (Jn. 15:12-17). We can disagree with one another, but we should do it in a way that edifies, not tears down. Does an angry person ever learn anything?

Paul said, "Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord" (Rom. 12:17-19). This was not something new added in NT times, either. De. 32:35 says, "To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence."

Some time ago, my friend Yvonne had sent me a letter saying that in August, B.C. 2, there was a massing together of four of the primary planets, Jupiter, Mars, Venus, and Uranus, in the vicinity of the sun. Astronomers said that was the beginning of a new age. We are now on the horizon of a new massing of the same planets, Jupiter, Mars, Venus, and Uranus, plus Saturn and the moon. All will be in the vicinity of the sun‹a rare event! That will be Friday, Nisan 30, 5760 on the Jewish Calendar.

In the Lamsa Bible, Lu. 21:24-28 says, "Jerusalem will be trodden under the feet of the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles comes to an end. AND THERE WILL BE SIGNS IN SUN AND MOON AND STARS; AND ON EARTH DISTRESS OF THE NATIONS, AND CONFUSION BECAUSE OF THE ROARING OF THE SEA; And upheaval that takes life out of men, because of fear of what is to come on earth; and the powers of the universe will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with a large army and great glory. But when these things BEGIN TO HAPPEN, have courage and lift up your heads, because your salvation is AT HAND" (Lu. 21:25,26).

Rev. 1:3 and 22:10 speak of the Rapture as being "at hand." Surely, we do not have long to patiently wait. "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise...but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to REPENTANCE" (II Pet. 3:9). Agape

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> Re: We look for preachers that tickle our ears
> What you have posted on the Internet regarding the second coming of Jesus is extremely
> interesting. HOWEVER, you conveniently leave out some rather important details. Examining
> these details will show your speculations to be groundless. Briefly, they are:

> 1. Read your history books. The prophecies of Matthew 24 were ALL fulfilled by the sack of
> Jerusalem in 70 A.D. The historical record will show that, indeed, not one stone was left
> upon another. The place was LEVELED. This includes the emperor riding his horse into the
> Holy of Holies!! Elsewhere in Scripture this is referred to as "the Abomination of
> Desolation."

***Read your Bible. De. 27:15 says, "CURSED be the man that maketh any graven or molten IMAGE, an ABOMINATION unto the LORD." The abomination of desolation is an image. Rev. 13:14 says that the False Prophet will say "to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an IMAGE to the beast." Satan is cast out of Heaven down to the Earth Mid-Trib. He will immediately enter into the False Prophet, speak "as a dragon" (Rev. 13:11), sit "in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (II Thess. 2:4), and place the abomination of desolation at the temple. When this happens, "Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains" (Mt. 24:16).

> 2. Also in Matthew 24, Christ refers to many signs and wonders and
> concludes that these things must take place, BUT THE END IS NOT YET!!

***Mt. 24:4-6 says, "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that he be not troubled: for all THESE THINGS must come to pass, but BUT THE END IS NOT YET." Not many signs and wonders had been covered up to that time. The very fact that it spoke of war and then said that the end is NOT YET should make you think twice about everything being finished with the war against Jerusalem in 70 AD.

***Did an asteroid strike the Mediterranean Sea (Rev. 8:8; Zeph. 2:4,5)? Did an even larger asteroid obliterate Babylon (Rev. 8:10; 18:21)? Did we come to Earth with Christ (Rev. 19:14), or aren't we saints? Zech. 14:4,5 says, "his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives...and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst...and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south...the LORD my God shall come, and ALL THE SAINTS WITH THEE....And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea (Mediterranean), and half of them toward the hinder sea (Dead Sea)." I guess you think all that happened in 70 AD too. Go to Israel and look at the Mount of Olives. It hasn't split yet. There is a fault there. One large hotel chain refused to build on it for that reason. They are smart. They believe what the Lord said.

***In verse 14, just BEFORE the verse about the abomination, Jesus said, "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and THEN SHALL THE END COME." Had the gospel gone out to the whole world in 70 AD?

> 3. In his epistles, John refers to the spirit of antichrist, which is "already among us."
> This does NOT refer to a specific individual, but the evil nature of the human condition.

***Whatever you want to call them, the Beast and the False Prophet are yet to come. See Rev. 13; 20:10.

> 4. I should not have to explain to you about the Jewish form of writing known as
> apocalyptic literature. This is a style of writing meant to show Believers that God's
> enemies will one day be crushed and that we should not lose hope. It was never meant
> to be taken literally or prophetically, other than to say that someday, GOD WINS!!.

***I thought only ostriches stuck their head in the sand. The Bible is God breathed. If all he wanted to tell us was that "GOD WINS," he would not have needed all the details he put in. He would have wasted our time having us wade through all those useless words. He would not have said, "Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition upon whom the ends of the world (ages) are come" (I Cor. 10:11). He would not have written, "the secrets of wisdom, that they are double (duplicates) to that which is" (Job. 11:6). He would not have written, "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things" (Mk. 13:23). He would not have written, "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets" (Amos 3:7). You will find out that there is not one jot or tittle that will not be fulfilled. God meant what he said. His word was meant to be taken literally and prophetically.

> 5. The most important point is Christ's own statement that NO MAN knows the day or hour
> of His coming. It's going to be "like a thief in the night." We're not going to have a
> clue until it actually happens.

***You mean, YOU are "not going to have a clue until it actually happens." God said, "Nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest: neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. Take heed therefore how ye hear." (Lu. 8:17,18). And just in case you think that might be mistranslated or something, he repeated it in 12:2: "For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known." Mt. 10:26 says, "Fear them not therefore: for there is NOTHING COVERED, THAT SHALL NOT BE REVEALED; AND HID, THAT SHALL NOT BE KNOWN."

***Jesus warned you, "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee" (Rev. 3:3). Believe me, I am watching. I am sorry that you are not.

> Please don't get me wrong. I am a Believer. Like you, I hope His coming
> is soon. However, the Great Commission tells us to preach the Gospel, NOT
> to try and figure out when the End is coming.

***The prophets who dutifully recorded the time clues did not necessarily understand them. But, they "prophesied of the GRACE THAT SHOULD COME TO YOU: SEARCHING WHAT, OR WHAT MANNER OF TIME THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHICH WAS IN THEM DID SIGNIFY" (I Peter 1:10,11). Why are you not searching? You don't need grace?

> I beg you, join with other Believers in preaching the Gospel of Jesus instead of engaging
> in useless speculation about the End Times. They will get here in God's own time.

***I do my best to bring others to Christ, but I also follow the Lord's oft repeated command to "Watch." No sticking my head in the sand for me. The grit in my eyes would make it hard to watch.

***The millennial "day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up" (II Pet. 3:10). "But ye, brethren (believers), are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief....Therefore let us not sleep, AS DO OTHERS; but LET US WATCH" (I Thess. 5:4,6).

***I beg you, join with other Believers in not only preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but of watching like He commanded. We are not to do the one and omit the other, but to do both.

***When you watch, you will see that the prophesied events for the Tribulation years are just about upon us. The Oslo Accords were signed Sept. 13, 1993. According to the Wye 2 Agreement signed Sept. 13, 1999, the Final Status Agreement is to be signed Sept. 13, 2000. Do you realize that we are seeing a repeat of the 7 good years and 7 bad years, as when Joseph was in Egypt? Sept. 13, 1993 + 7 = Sept. 13, 2000. Doesn't that make you think? Sept. 13, 2000 + 7 = Sept. 13, 2007, the very first day of the millennial Day of the Lord. Do you think God arranged this? The Oslo Accords were ratified three days later on Tishri 1, 5754. Tishri 1, 5754 + 7 + 7 = Tishri 1, 5768, which just happens to be Sept. 13, 2007. God is speaking to us if we only have the ability to hear. If you are not alert, you will miss the signs.

***If you miss the signs, you might get caught not being ready. We must repent and confess our sins so we will be wise virgins filled with the oil of the Holy Spirit. See I John 1:9.

***God "now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day (probably Tishri 1, 5768, Sept. 13, 2007) in the which he will judge the world" (the Judgment Seat of Christ) (Acts 17:30,31). This seems to be the day Christ is given his golden crown. "Rev. 11:15-18 says, "The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ...thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry (Israel is being attacked by the united nation's army under Gog, Eze. 38), and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth."

***Now "hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him" (I Cor. 12:18). We are each to do what we are called to do without trying to pour everyone into the same mold. Shalom and Agape

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FWD: Re: more on mark of the beast:
http://mercury.spaceports.com/~persewen/mark_of_the_beast.htm
The Microchip and the "Mark of the Beast", by Dr. Carl W. Sanders

Here are excerpts from an article published in the June-July, 1994 issue of NEXUS...It is the testimony of Dr. Carl W. Sanders, who was in charge of conceiving the microchip....

"Thirty-two years of my life was spent in design engineering and electronics ‹ designing microchips in the Bio-Med field.

"In 1968 I became involved, almost by accident, in a research and development project in regard to a spinal bypass for a young lady who had severed her spine. They were looking at possibly being able to connect motor nerves, etc.

"It was a project we were all excited about. There were 100 people involved and I was senior engineer in charge of the project. The project culminated in the microchip that we talk about now ‹ a microchip that I believe is going to be the positive identification and "the Mark of the Beast".

"Working on the microchip, we had no idea about it ever being an identification chip. We looked at it as being a very humanitarian thing to do...

"There are 250 000 components in the microchip, including a tiny lithium battery. I fought them over using lithium as a battery source but NASA was doing a lot with lithium at that time and it was the going thing. I had talked to a doctor at Boston Medical Center about what that concentration of lithium in the body could do if the chip broke down. He said that you would get a boil or grievous sore.

"As the development moved along, I left the project and came back as a consultant several times...

"As we developed this microchip, as the identification chip became the focal point, there were several things that were wanted. They wanted a name and an image (picture of your face), Social Security number with the international digits on it, finger print identification, physical description, family history, address, occupation, income tax information and criminal record.

"I¹ve been in seventeen ŒOne World¹ meetings where this has been discussed, meetings in Brussels, Luxembourg, tying together the finances of the world.

"ŠThere are bills before Congress right now that will allow them to inject a microchip in your child at the time of birth for identification purposes. The President of the United States of America, under the ŒEmigration Control Act of 1986¹, Section 100, has the authority to deem whatever type of identification is necessary ‹ whether it be an invisible tattoo or electronic media under the skin...."

My reply

What stuck out like a sore thumb to me were these words, "Social Security number with the international digits on it." When I get an email returned as undeliverable from overseas, I have seen 666 appended to it. Are those the international digits? I think the 6 means overseas for computers. Does anyone know more about this that could fill us in?

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FWD: The London Telegraph reported: "Israel is facing an unprecedented water crisis, with the level in the Sea of Galilee, its main freshwater reservoir, expected this week to fall below the critical level for the first time. Water experts have drawn a 'red line' for the Sea of Galilee at 213 metres below sea level, beyond which many believe further pumping would cause irreparable damage to the ecosystem. But that level is likely to be reached by Friday, and the authorities have authorised pumping to continue as an emergency measure. The Environment Minister, Dalia Itzik, said after touring the Sea of Galilee - which, despite its name, is a lake - that Israel should declare a drought emergency. The problem lies in the fact that the lower levels of the lake are salty, caused either by saline springs or residue from the time when the whole area was part of a salt sea. If the level goes too low, the water could become too salty to drink..."

My reply

We know that there will be famine in the Tribulation (Rev. 6:5,6) and no rain for the first 3 1/2 years (Rev. 11:6). This worsening news about Israel's water supply makes me wonder if there will be relief between now and the beginning of the Tribulation.

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FWD:I found this article on Van Impe's web site. I may be confusing this gate with another gate and stair, but was it not prophesied that Jesus would appear on this stair under this gate at the end of time (presumably after He descends and touches down on the Mount of Olives)? *

If so it is interesting that it should be opened now! * Source: John Romer, "Testament" videotape series

Here is the article. I believe the gate to which John Romer was referring was the "golden gate", in the mid portion of the eastern wall. I do not know if this is the same gate.

Muslim anger as Temple site is opened, FROM ROSS DUNN IN JERUSALEM

PALESTINIAN Muslim leaders have denounced the opening of a new Jewish archae-ological site beneath Jerusalem's Temple Mount, the flashpoint for centuries of religious rivalry. Yesterday tourists, guarded by Israeli police, visited a huge staircase used by Jewish pilgrims at the time of Jesus to enter the Temple Mount, Judaism's holiest site.

The Herodian-era staircase, known as the Hulda Ascent, led to one of the entrances to the Second Temple, which now houses the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa mosque, the third holiest shrine in the Islamic world. The opening of the staircase and other important archae-ological finds at the site by Ehud Barak, the Israeli Prime Minister, has stirred anger among officials of the Jerusalem Wakf, the Muslim religious trust.

"We are against this excavation and, as we've said in the past, all excavations in the area," said Adnan Husseini, the Wakf director-general. "The opening is illegal, unfair and provocative to the Islamic side . . . and the Israelis are clearly not creating an atmo-sphere of peace." The site has revealed other imposing architectural elements from Herod's Royal Portico, including parts of columns and large sections of embossed stone cornices with geometric designs. They formed part of a structure, 590ft long, built by Herod at the southern end of the Temple Mount, known as the Opel. It was said to be the largest-roofed structure of its time in Israel and one of the largest in the Ancient World, according to officials of the Israel Antiquities Authority.

In the Second Temple period, there were two gates in the south wall of the Temple Mount known as the Huldah Gates, possibly named after the prophetess Hulda, who according to tradition lived in Jerusalem during the First Temple period. The Roman Tenth Legion reduced the portico to its foundations during its destruction of the Second Temple in AD70.

My reply

That was very interesting. Hal Linsey's book, "A Prophetical Walk Through the Holy Land" says, "Acording to prophetic Scripture, the Messiah will one day enter Jerusalem through the Eastern Gate." It is east of the Dome of the Tablets, where some think the Holy of Holies was built.

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