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Re: Kaitlyn Hudson: from Robin MacAhan
Kaitlyn is doing much better thanks to your fervent prayers. She is still in ICU and has had all of her tubes removed except her feeding tube. However, last night she had a horrible nose bleed that was so bad that they are considering giving her blood today. When I went to see her last weekend, she suddenly started to complain of being really hot. She became almost violent because of this oppressive heat. I immediately thought to start praying over her and rebuking any demonic activity that may have been involved. She immediately became calm and went to sleep. For those of you who are experienced at praying against demonic activity, please do so as I now think that could be the case here. I will continue to update you as I am informed of her progress. Again, thank you so much for all you have prayed for her. She wouldn't have made it this far without your prayers!

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From Incoming Email in P@C 403 someone wrote:

> 4. I should not have to explain to you about the Jewish form of writing known as > apocalyptic literature. This is a style of writing meant to show Believers that God's > enemies will one day be crushed and that we should not lose hope. It was never meant > to be taken literally or prophetically, other than to say that someday, GOD WINS!!.

If the Bible was never meant to be taken literally or prophetically, as this writer contends, then why did Jesus say the following?

(Mark 13:14 KJV)  But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Jesus says that when you LITERALLY see the LITERAL abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the LITERAL PROPHET LITERALLY standing where it should not be standing, then let the reader understand that those in Judea had best LITERALLY flee to the mountains.

Tell Ed hello for me. Agape

My reply

Thanks. If they don't run when the Bible says to run, they will be sorry they didn't. If God didn't mean that literally, why the instructions not to go down to take any thing out of the house? Their running or not running will sure show who believes the Bible and who doesn't.

To me, God has adequately proven that we are to take his Word literally unless it is obviously symbolic, such as Daniel telling Nebuchadnezzar, "Thou art this head of gold" (Dan. 2:38). God's prophecies have come true 100% in the past. Therefore, they will come true 100% in the future. It makes no difference whether we believe them or not, they will come true, right on schedule. Dan. 2:45 says, "the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is CERTAIN, and the INTERPRETATION THEREOF SURE."

If the Bible was never meant to be taken literally or prophetically, then why write it? It would be worthless. Even history would be worthless, because it is meant to be taken literally. That statement of his makes no sense to me.

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From Finland:
I checked the planet positions next spring, and indeed major planets and Moon are pretty much on the same direction at the end of april and this continues later in the spring.(quote from P/C 403 below)

Recently there has been unusually many earhthquakes and weather problems It could be that the interval between earthquakes & weather problems is getting shorter - like a woman approaching labor. Maybe we are in a 9 month countdown allready?

One other interesting thing is that in his deathbed Ron Wyatt "published" and confirmed his discovery of the Ark of Covenant. More and more people are aware of this fact. One day it could pop up so that it will become breaking news. Then the Jews will no doubt get the Ark from down below to daylight - what an excellent spark to building a Temple for the Ark!

I tend to note that you are making "concessions" to people who claim that Rapture must be before 2000 (witness of an autistic boy etc.) Sure it is a possibility, but I think we will see more definite "signs" before the D-day.

Dreams and vision are sometimes right sometimes wrong, and sometimes probably misinterpreted by people. It keeps on reminding me of my rapture dream (it is there in a P/C of last year) I saw it on March - April -98 and did only realize after several months what was the significance (that is how I see it at least) of me first,(maybe 3 - 4 or 5 times) trying to fly up. Then suddenly I was taken feet first and woke up as I was amazed of the speed (at least mach 2 ;) which I approached the small hole in the wool like little clouds.

What kind of "certified" me, that maybe this was more than just a brainproduct, was that in the very same P/C there was an other person who told about his dream where he was taken up with others, and that they looked like candles upside down. I never before could have even thought that raptured people would go feet first. (there are several artists who have painted rapture as people sort of circling upwards heads first.) But if you give this a second thought you will understand that if you go at a great speed upwards you really get scared if you look down and canīt see where you are going to.

"In the Lamsa Bible, Lu. 21:24-28 says, "Jerusalem will be trodden under the feet of the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles comes to an end. AND THERE WILL BE SIGNS IN SUN AND MOON AND STARS; AND ON EARTH DISTRESS OF THE NATIONS, AND CONFUSION BECAUSE OF THE ROARING OF THE SEA; And upheaval that takes life out of men, because of fear of what is to come on earth; and the powers of the universe will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with a large army and great glory. But when these things BEGIN TO HAPPEN, have courage and lift up your heads, because your salvation is AT HAND" (Lu. 21:25,26)."

Letīs wait for clear understanding!

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> Maybe we are in a 9 month countdown allready?

That's an interesting thought.

> I tend to note that you are making "concessions"

I personally think Pentecost has the best chance, but still acknowledge that it is possible on any day. Only the Lord knows for sure. If the date is soon, I think, "Well, I hope you are right. It can't come too soon for me. However, I think we will probably have to wait till Pentecost."

The head of the Body of Christ was "born" into another world on the Feast of Firstfruits. Jesus went to Heaven that day and returned. The first resurrection is in ranks. I think they come in order.

FIRST RESURRECTION
(1) Christ---------------Feast of Firstfruits---Nisan 16---1st month
(2) Church saints--------Feast of Pentecost-----Sivan 7----3rd month
(3) Tribulation saints---Feast of Trumpets------Tishri 1---7th month

The fact that the Spirit of Christ came to the Church on Pentecost in 30 AD seems to be showing us that Christ would come to the Church on Pentecost this time too. There are lots of prophecies with double fulfillments.

> "THERE WILL BE SIGNS IN SUN AND MOON AND STARS"

The lineup of the majority of the mass of our Solar System on May 5, 2000, includes the "SUN AND MOON AND STARS...And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh" (Lu. 21:25,28).

Earlier, my friend Yvonne sent me a letter saying that in August, B.C. 2, there was a massing together of four of the primary planets, Jupiter, Mars, Venus, and Uranus, in the vicinity of the sun. Astronomers said that was the beginning of a new age. We are now on the horizon of a new massing of the same planets, Jupiter, Mars, Venus, and Uranus, plus Saturn and the moon. All will be in the vicinity of the sun‹a rare event! All the seven heavenly bodies will be coming together in a massing of the planets. It will occur May 5, 2000. To me, that seems to be a pretty good sign.

Also, this is interesting. Jesus was 33 when he was resurrected. Jerusalem all belonged to Israel in 1967 when summer was nigh. The year 1967 + 33 = 2000. Summer is nigh at Pentecost.

Lu. 21:30,31 says, "summer is now nigh at hand. So likewise ye, when he see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand."

Food for thought.

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...thank you for the books, I still have to read the Revelations 2000.

One question, from Heaven Found, are the seven days of Genesis (creation) implied to be 1000 year periods on Earth, and one day periods in Heaven? As a person with a scientific training, the earth time of 6000 years to re-shape planet Earth, and create all the life on it are very logical. Please clarify this for me.

  From P&C 401, the El-Asadeyat Meteors. Something which happened to me before you posted this.

On October 1/99 at 0140 hrs, I was driving home from my weekend job, and saw EXACTLY the type of meteor described (very white, very snowball like, and clearly seen). I live in the Vancouver BC Canada area. I have been a amateur astronomer for over 25 years, and know well how meteors appear. I have seen fireballs with smoke, rapid meteors, slow moving that break up into doubles and triples, even sattalites, and I know the star positions well. I HAVE NEVER SEEN anything like this before. I could not possibly miss this meteor. It's magnitude (brightness) was -2 (very bright), and it drew an arc of over ten degrees, which is HUGE. Also it dissappeared only when it got right to the horizon. I would have expected there to be a large fragment found, but I have heard none of this in the news. It first appeared just above the constellation ORION. If any of you have star charts you can check for yourself, the origin was where the SUMMER SOLSTICE position of our Sun is (which is usually June 21, the start of summer in the northern hemisphere). The scriptures of Matt 24:32 and Mark 13:28 and Luke 21:30 all refer to the sign of summer is nigh or near. This to me indicates that I witnessed a sign that Rapture I is indeed very likely to be on June 10, 2000, which is just before summer. Rejoice brothers and sisters, the Lord is near! Agape love to all.

My reply

> are the seven days of Genesis (creation) implied to be 1000 year periods
> on Earth, and one day periods in Heaven?

No. The seven days were literal ordinary days. The plants would have died during a 500-year night.

Days of Heaven just refer to 1000-year periods of time on Earth. Literal days in Heaven would be 10.2 hours if regulated by its rotation. However, Rev. 22:5 says, "there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light." That is not hard for me to believe. Saturn radiates three or four times more heat than it gets from the Sun, and it has thick clouds to hold in the heat. Job 22:14 says of God, "Thick clouds are a covering to him...and he walketh in the circuit of heaven" (i.e., as it orbits along the ecliptic).

> 6000 years to re-shape planet Earth, and create all the life
> on it are very logical. Please clarify this for me.

The Lord is more powerful than that. He didn't need 6000 years. He holds this whole Universe together by his power.

Heb. 1:10-12 says, "Thou, Lord in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish (apollumi, be destroyed, marred, lost); but thou remainest: and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture (covering) shalt thou FOLD THEM UP, and they shall be CHANGED." We know that the surface of the earth has folded. We see that Mars has lost most of its water and atmosphere, probably because Satan's planet, Rahab, blew up next door. Mars is badly scarred on one side. Angular rocks lay on the surface just about everywhere we look.

I believe that the Earth itself is very old, that an asteroid impact had wiped out life, plant and animal, on the planet, burying "much wood" (Isa. 30:33), plant life and animals to make coal and oil for us. The land had sunk in the sea.

Gen. 1:2,6-10 says, "the Spirit of God moved (i.e., as a wind) upon the face (surface) of the waters....God said, Let there be a firmament (expanse of space) in the midst of the waters...and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament...And God called the firmament Heaven (lit., heavens)....And God said, Let the waters under the heaven (heavens) be gathered together unto ONE PLACE (the Pacific Basin, where the Moon material had been blasted out by an asteroid impact), and let the dry land appear...And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas."

In Gen. 1:17, God set (nathan, lifted up, brought hither, thrust, placed, fastened) the sun and moon "in the firmament of the heaven (heavens) to give light upon the earth." Verse 14 says, "let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years." All was carefully regulated, the placement in space of the Earth, Moon and Sun, the rotation, the tilt of the axis, etc. I think time in this kosmos, order of things, was to begin to be counted from when God rested, when everything was ready to operate, our Friday at sunset, the Jewish Saturday, Tishri 1, 283 BJE (before the Jewish Era), BC 4044.

Gen. 1:11 says, "Let the earth bring forth grass,, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose SEED IS in itself, UPON THE EARTH: and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass" etc.

Gen. 2:5 says, "every plant of the field (i.e., world, kosmos) BEFORE IT was in the earth, and every herb of the field BEFORE IT grew." The only acts of original creation in that week were of animal life and man. The plant seeds were already in the earth, and they were caused to germinate and grow.

The meteor you saw is sure interesting. Shortly after midnight the night before the last big meteor shower we had, I saw two. One was a short far-away arc, gone in one quick flash. The other was the most splendid one I had ever seen and such as I never even hoped to see. It seemed so close to the Earth, like a plane that has not yet gained much altitude. (I live near March Air Reserve Base. It seemed closer than the Blue Angels go in the Air Show.) I thought I could almost hear it sizzle. It drew a very thick long white straight line directly overhead before it burnt out abruptly after covering about 1/3rd of the sky.

Hope all is well with you and your family. God bless.

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Your web page was very interesting, i would not call my self "religious" but i do have a strange kind of belief that i can't really explain in words. All that i know for sure is that time is running out!(but why? i don't know). I have searched through many religious beliefs and none have any answers, but your page looks close to the truth. What about the beast? as far as i'm concered if the revelation is true then i'll fight both sides because i'm not a puppet i have a mind of my own. Can you explain where it says we can't stand as a race on our own. sure if your god wants to come and take care of those blinded by by thier own mortal desires then good, but what about us who have beliefs and are looking but don't know where those beliefs lie?

My reply

All of us are created with a need for God. If we don't find him, we keep trying to fill that need with other things, but we still know that we have not found the answer. It is a hunger that is hard to do away with no matter how long we search for the wrong things. When we get those things, the hunger is still there. When we find God, we know that the void has been filled. We are astonished to find that this is what we were looking for all along and just didn't know it.

You are right that time is running out. We are living in the end of the age. The Rapture, when Jesus comes to take his Holy Spirit filled believers to Heaven can't be very far in the future. All the prophesied things that are to come to pass during the seven-year Tribulation that follows the Pre-Trib Rapture are clicking right into place. The Final Status Peace Agreement is to be signed Sept. 13, 2000. The Rapture is likely to take place between now and then. The Tribulation will begin when two men, called the Beast and False Prophet in Scripture, confirm that seven-year peace covenant. I think that will take place just a few short months after it is first signed next September.

> I have searched through many religious beliefs and none have any answers

None except Christianity. None other has a Saviour that died in our stead and was resurrected from the dead as proof of who he was, the Son of God. You see "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. That name is Jesus Christ.

All men are lost and on their way to Hell to pay for their sins. We desperately need a Saviour. Jesus lived a sinless life, died in our place, was resurrected, ascended to Heaven, and ever lives to be our Saviour, our mediator between us and God. He died to pay the price that we deserve for our sins. By so doing, he took sin out of the way as an issue in Salvation. Now, it is "What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? (Matthew 22:42).

He paid the price for sin in our place. He offers us Salvation as a free gift, but it does not apply to us until we accept his gift. We have to exercise our will and make a decision. Do we believe in Him or not. We can't sit on the fence. No decision is a "NO" decision. Each of us was put on this Earth to be tested to see what kind of a decision we would make on this issue. Those who accept Christ are promised an eternal home in Heaven with Christ. Those who do not already have Hell set before them as their ultimate destiny. The soul that sinneth, it shall die. We have all come short of the glory of God. We are all lost without a Saviour.

Romans 10:9-13 shows us what we need to do to accept Christ as our Saviour. It says, "That if thou shalt confess with they mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Verse 13 says, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Do you believe Jesus Christ is the sinless Son of God?
Do you believe he died in your place, for your sins? so you don't have to die for your own sins?
Do you believe he was resurrected from the dead?

If you pray to our heavenly Father, and tell him you accept Jesus Christ as your own personal Saviour, and mean it in your heart, you will be saved. It is guaranteed by God himself.

Jesus will baptize you with his Holy Spirit. He dwells in you and seals you until the day of redemption. From that day, you never walk alone. He said that he would never leave you. Every sin you ever committed will be wiped off the books. You will get a fresh start. You will be born again, born into God's family as an adopted son. You can pray to the Father in Jesus' name, and he will hear your prayer. James 1:5-7 says, If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord." You see, God decided that man must walk by faith. That is our test. There is none worthy of our faith but one, the Son of God. He loved us enough to die a horrible death in our stead. That is the ultimate love. And we love him because he first loved us.

Jesus is watching, waiting, hoping that you will become a believer. He draws you with cords of love. Will you accept him?

Please write me back and tell me your decision. Now is the day. Tomorrow could be too late. No one knows when they might die. Then it is too late. We have to come to the Lord Jesus Christ while we are alive. After this earthly life, the judgment. You have everything to gain and nothing to lose. Think about it.

> What about the beast?

Since we are placed on Earth for this test, we are given a manual so we have a good chance to pass our test. The Bible is the only pure truth we have to go by. It is God breathed. In Revelation 13, there are two men of the Tribulation years. Both are evil and so are symbolized as beasts. In Rev. 20:10, we find out that the first is called the Beast and the second one is called the False Prophet. The Beast will rule the world during the first half of the seven-year Tribulation. The False Prophet will rule during the second half. He is the one who will be Satan possessed and will speak "as a dragon" (Rev. 13:11). The dragon is a symbol of the devil called Satan.

God is drawing you toward himself. Satan and his demons will do all they can to keep you from being born into God's family. Which side wins and gets you on their side is strictly up to you. Neither will force you, although they will try to influence you. You were given free will when God created you. The decision is yours to make. As for me and my family, we choose God. We have all asked Jesus Christ to be our Saviour. Anything else is too horrible to even contemplate.

We are waiting for Jesus Christ to come take the group called the Bride of Christ to Heaven to live with him. He said, "In my Father's house are many mansions (dwelling places): if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also" (John 14:2,3).

When he comes at the Rapture, this is how it will go. I Thessalonians 4:13-18 says, "I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren (believers are already close to the Lord), concerning them which are asleep (the dead in Christ), that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For IF WE BELIEVE THAT JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him (at this point, they are alive in their celestial bodies). For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (Old English for precede) them which are asleep. for the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first (get their resurrection bodies): Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

> i have a mind of my own

We all do, and we must make up our minds whether we will accept God's free gift of salvation or not.

> Can you explain where it says we can't stand as a race on our own.

Romans 3:23 says, "all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." We are all lost without a Saviour.

John 3:16-18 says, "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

> sure if your god wants to come and take care of those blinded by by thier own mortal
> desires then good, but what about us who have beliefs and are looking but don't know
> where those beliefs lie?

Just as when you hit a so-called "brick wall" when using your computer. When all else fails, read the manual. Read the Bible. God put the information you need in there. He did his part. Now you need to do yours. You will find what you are looking for. Read the New Testament first. It is Jesus' Last Will and Testament. It superceded the earlier Last Will and Testament and became effective at his death. You have a chance to become his heir.

After we believe, we are told, "ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ" (Romans 8:15-17).

I Cor. 2:9 says, "Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him."

He is watching and waiting to see what you will decide.

I'd love to hear from you again. In His love

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