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Just wanted to say 432 was an outstanding lesson. Halfway through reading it I felt so spiritually happy about our Lord, I got on my knees and thanked him for so much he has given me/us! I never told you this, but last July 99, I woke up, for really no reason at all, in the middle of the night, and a thought or message or whatever you want to call it, came into my head, to "study like Marylin." That was all! I wasn't thinking about you or your website or even our Lord or anything biblical. I just woke up in the middle of the night! To me that was a confirmation that whatever else people may think about what you are writing, you are, in the Lord's eyes doing the following: 2Tm:2:15: Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. God bless

My reply

Thanks for sharing this with me.

One would have to study a lot to study like me. I have really applied myself ever since before 1960. Even when we had our Spring Crest Draperies, I would come home at 11:00 PM and work on my first book till around 3:00 AM.

I wrote that book 7 times. I kept learning more and more, plus an English Teacher at BIOLA said that I should rewrite it and put it in chronological order so people that did not have the Bible background I did would be able to keep things in order. I had told it step by step as I had found it out. That was the fifth time.

Both the fifth and sixth times were while we had the drapery business. I was using an electric typewriter. When I started over again because I was learning even more, Ed got me a computer. He said, "I'd like to see that book finished while I am still alive." After I typed it into the computer, I revised and revised until the very day it went to the printer. Wish I had had a computer at the first, but considered myself lucky to have a big electric typewriter. I had started with Ed's old college portable and a rickety card table in the corner of the kitchen. When Ed got me the typewriter, we had made the garage into a room so I could teach kids Good News Club out there. My writing place was transferred to a corner of the garage room. We went to an auction and bought a desk heavy enough to take the slamming carriage of that Olympia 40. No card table would do for that thing.

Ed didn't know it was a model 40, but he got it for my 40th birthday. Mom sent me $40 too, something the likes of which she never did at any other time. The typewriter was to come in the week after my birthday. I guess I got a knowing look on my face. Ed said, "You think it will come on your birthday." I grinned and nodded, and lo and behold, it did.

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Re: The Mark is now being publicly announced!
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/991215/fl_applied_3.html

Please see the above link which appeared as a headline on the Drudge Report website today. It is obvious that we are very close to having these implants widely available...interesting the timeline has them ready by year end 2000. Notice also how they are expounding on all the wonderful benefits of such a device. The PR campaign seems to have begun. I can understand how the masses of people unaware of Biblical prophesy will think this is the greatest invention ever. The sad fact is that it could be used for good, but in this world, we can't assume that's all it will be used for.

I have enjoyed your website enormously and still have much to read. I am so grateful I found it! May God richly bless you and your family for all the work you have done and continue to do for us. Have a wonderful holiday season! Agape.

My reply

Thanks. How anyone could not realize that we are in the end times is hard to imagine. I got the following information on the device in my incoming email.

FWD: World's First Digital Device Implantable in Humans (same URL as above)

PALM BEACH, Fla.--Dec. 15, 1999--Inserted just under the skin, with maintenance-free regenerating power supply, miniature ``Digital Angel«'' has multi-billiondollar market potential.

Applied Digital Solutions, Inc....today announced that it has acquired the patent rights to a miniature digital transceiver -- which it has named ``Digital Angel«'' -- that can be used for a variety of purposes, such as providing a tamper-proof means of identification for enhanced e-business security, locating lost or missing individuals, tracking the location of valuable property and monitoring the medical conditions of at-risk patients....

The implantable transceiver sends and receives data and can be continuously tracked by GPS (Global Positioning Satellite) technology. The transceiver's power supply and actuation system are unlike anything ever created. When implanted within a body, the device is powered electromechanically through the movement of muscles, and it can be activated either by the "wearer" or by the monitoring facility. A novel sensation feedback feature will even allow the wearer to control the device to some degree....

We expect to produce a prototype of the device by the end of 2000....

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Re: look at the name of this star
December 15, UK Astronomers See Light From New Planet, By Patricia Reaney

LONDON (Reuters) - British and American scientists said on Wednesday they had made the first sighting of a new planet beyond our solar system. Armed with a specially designed computer program and with the help of a huge telescope on La Palma in the Canary Islands they discovered faint light from the so-called millennium planet.

"The signal is very faint, but it tells us that it's coming from a planet twice the diameter and eight times the mass of Jupiter -- a real monster," said Dr Andrew Collier Cameron of the University of St Andrews in Scotland. Twenty-eight new planets have been reported in the past four years but Cameron and his team are the first people on Earth to see light from one. The planet's parent star, Tau Bootis, can be seen with the naked eye but the planet itself has not been directly observed. Tau Bootis is located 55 light years from the Earth. One light year is the equivalent of six million, million miles.

Astronomers know other planets are out there by star wobbles. As a planet orbits around a star it tugs on the star and causes a wobble in the light coming from it. Until now scientists have not been able to confirm the planet's existence directly.

"This is the first time that we have been able to detect the light that is coming to us from the planet itself," Professor Keith Horne, who worked on the project, told Reuters.

My reply

I see what you mean. In "Tau Bootis," the Tau is the Greek letter "t." It is a symbol of the cross. One type of cross, shaped like a thick capital T, is called the Tau Cross. "Bootis" could be from the Heb. BO, to come, just as the constellation BOOTES is. That name is pretty expressive. The signs keep adding up. Praise the Lord.

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Thank you SO much for your beautiful answer to the man with the Jewish wife. I am writing down the OT scriptures in the front of my bible to have them readily available when needed. It is so clear that the OT points to the NT, but to Jewish people, who don't believe the NT, we must prove it from what they DO believe. My favorite book of the bible is Genesis -- I have taught it many times to our ladies' bible study, and each time God shines new light on it.

Thank you for sharing your hard-earned knowledge with all of us. I check out (almost) each scripture you give and the front of my bible is marked with special references to our having been given ALL knowledge, to Israel as being the fig tree, and to references to our being told to WATCH. With your help, I have easy access to my own concordance! I just pray enough of this is getting directly into my memory, so that if I ever lose my personal bible, I'll still be able to share with others these precious scripture promises.

I am eagerly awaiting our meeting in the air on Pentecost, 2000. May God bless and protect you now and in the coming confusion of this world. In Jesus' Service

PS: Have you heard about the predicted earthquake in the Los Angeles area for next week? The prediction was made by the same man that predicted the LA quake and the first quake in Turkey. He is a scientist (I believe a geologist), and is saying this is due to the alignment of the planets and the sun beginning Dec. 22nd. Also, because of this alignment, there will be unusual solar activity from now through March. Lots to watch for as we watch for our Redeemer to come.

My reply

I appreciate those nice things you said.

If I had heard of the earthquake prediction, I forgot it. I just know that if the Lord wants me here doing his work, I'll be here doing his work. If not, Heaven is a better place. He will be with me wherever or whatever. He promised. I have wondered about our having to move to Riverside. May be a good reason. We have to play the game before we know the whys and wherefores. Agape

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A Big Thanks for all your help this year, you have done a tremendous Job. I have read,{THE WAY}, Written in the stars. I believe it was early mans Bible. I have just ordered a Book, [END OF DAYS,1971-2001] written by Charles Debois Willis. I believe the end of days began after the six day war in 1967. I am interested to know why he picked 2001, which maybe next year,too complete these end of days.I hope you are getting your rest from time to time, God Bless!

My reply

Thanks. I appreciate the things I have learned this year as well.

I took a nap this morning. Sometimes sleepiness catches up with me....Agape

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I love your work on Pro & Con pages. I want you to know I thank you for your hard work and time you put in. You writings have been a great source of information for me.

I have two questions. First, What role in the timing of the rapture might the peace talks now with Syria and Israel have, if any? My second question is probably silly but here goes. On Dec. 22, the moon is supposed to be brighter than it has in 133 years because a full moon appears on Winter Solstice. I will include a copy of text from e-mail sent to me today below. This is the first time this will happen since 1866. Do you think this has any ties with anything mentioned about the rapture? Thank you very much.
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An interesting occurrence to happen for the first time in the life of anyone around today, we'll see a full moon occur on the Winter solstice, Dec. 22nd. Since a full moon on the Winter Solstice occurs in conjunction with a lunar perigee (point ináthe moon's orbit that is closest to Earth), the moon will appear about 14% larger than it does at apogee (the point in its elliptical orbit that is farthest from the Earth). Since the Earth is also several million miles closer to the sun at this time of the year than in the summer, sunlight striking the moon is about 7% stronger making it brighter. Also, this will be the closest perigee of the Moon of the year since the moon's orbit is constantly deforming. If the weather is clear and there is a snow cover where you live, it is believed that even car headlights will be superfluous.

On December 21st, 1866 the Lakota Sioux took advantage of this combination of occurrences and staged a devastating retaliatory ambush on soldiers in Wyoming Territory.

In layman's terms: It will be a super bright full moon, much more than the usual AND it hasn't happened this way for 133 years! Our ancestors 133 years ago saw this. Our descendants 100 or so years from now will see this again.

My reply

Thanks for those nice words.

> What role in the timing of the rapture might the peace talks now with
> Syria and Israel have, if any?

I think the Final Status Agreement of Sept. 13, 2000, will be a peace agreement. It seems that the PLO, Syria and Israel may sign it. I also think that this covenant will be "confirmed" (Dan. 9:27) for 7 years when the two beasts of Rev. 13 sign it on the following Pentecost, in 2001. That will kick off the Tribulation.

> Do you think this (moon) has any ties with anything
> mentioned about the rapture?

The beautiful moon in the daytime sky today even seemed bigger than usual. I love to see these things in the sky. The coming big bright moon could be a sign since it is a rare event. Lu. 21:25 says there are to be signs in the sun, moon and stars. Agape

Note: It was astonishingly bright for us. It was like a big full locomotive headlamp both the 21st and 22nd.

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Re: interesting post by Jim Bramlett on 5D...I think you will like this.

Dear friends:
A friend faxed me a page from a newsletter of archaelogist and presumed Hebrew expert Vendyl Jones in Israel. It included an interesting quote, which I do not fully understand, but I pass it on anyhow.

"Many fear or are even in awe of Y2K. The year 2000 CE holds no importance for me. The Jubilee year 5,760 from Adam, that begins March 22, 2000, has me in awe! The previous issue of the RESEARCHER reminded all of us that, 'The days of man are the measure of the Miqvah.' (The Miqvah is the Jewish 'Baptistery.') The measure of a Miqvah is 40 Sheahs. One Sheah is 12 dozen or 144 eggs. The Kabbalahist liken one 12-month elliptic orbit of the Earth around the sun as one egg. Hence, 144 X 40 = 5,760. That Jubilee year, 5760, begins March 22, 2000. 'The days of man are the measure of the Miqvah.'"

I never heard of the Miqvah or a Sheah. The egg connection is probably because an elliptical orbit is shaped like an egg. As to March 22, 2000, he may be relying on the sacred vs. the civil calendar, but I am not even sure March 22, 2000 is the beginning of the next sacred year (I do not have a Jewish calendar handy). The above is the same as the result of multiplying a 40-year generation by the number of hours in the six-day creation (144), assuming each hour represents generations; thus, 144 X 40 = 5760. Can anyone give insight or a source for the quote: 'The days of man are the measure of the Miqvah'? Fascinating.

Jones' Web site in Israel is http://www.vendyljones.org.il (Even if his 3/22/99 start date is in error, this reinforces our previously perceived importance of Jewish year 5760.)
Jim

My reply

>The Jubilee year 5,760 from Adam, that begins March 22, 2000

I can't imagine why Mar 22, 2000 would be the start of 5760. Mar. 22 is 15 Adar II. 5760 is not right for counting "from Adam," either. The Jewish calendar started Oct. 7, BC 3761.

I don't know of a verse about the Miqvah. It isn't listed in Strong's. One verse about man's days is Gen. 6:3: "his days shall be an hundred and twenty years." That was until the Flood.

Another verse about man's days is Job 7:1: "Is there not an appointed time to man upon earth? are not his days also LIKE THE DAYS OF AN HIRELING?" It seems that the days of an hireling are counted to the next Jubilee.

Isa. 16:14 says, "Within three years, AS THE YEARS OF AN HIRELING, and the glory of Moab shall be contemned."

Isa. 21:16 says, " Within a year, ACCORDING TO THE YEARS OF AN HIRELING, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail."

Lev. 25:47f says that the children of Israel are servants. and if they or a sojourner is sold, the price is calculated to the next Jubilee, when that person will go out free. Lev. 25:40 says, "But as an hired servant, and as a sojourner, he shall be with thee, and shall serve thee unto the year of jubile."

If I remember right, Charles Capp multiplies the 120 years man was given before the Flood by 50 (which he calls a Jubilee) to get 6000 years, the length of what he calls the Earth lease given man. However, I think the Jubilee cycle is a 49-year cycle. The 50th year is also the first year of the next cycle. That keeps the sabbatic years aligned with the Jubilee cycle.

I think 5761 is a Sabbatic year, according to the present Jewish Civil calendar. It divides evenly by 7. The year 5754 was a Sabbatic year too. That was when the Oslo Accords were ratified in Israel on Tishri 1, 5754 (Sept. 16, 1993). Adding 7 good years and 7 bad years brings us to the Sabbatic year starting Tishri 1, 5758 (our Sept. 13, 2007). Agape

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Monday, December 13, 1999 / Tevet 4, 5760, Hebraic.Heritage.Newsgroup, Arutz-7
FINALLY - RAIN
Long-awaited rain finally fell this morning - but not without damage. One woman apparently drowned after rains flooded a church in Jerusalem this morning, and five people were rescued there by a team of firefighters and divers. Mekorot National Water Company reports that the level of the Kineret is 213.28 meters below sea level, or 28 centimeters below the red line - and only two centimeters above the "secondary" red line that Water Commissioner Meir Ben-Meir informally set several weeks ago. The effect of today's rains are not expected to be felt in the Kineret for a few days, if at all. Large traffic jams were caused this morning on many roads, particularly the Ma'aleh Adumim-Jerusalem highway. The rain is expected to continue intermittently until Tuesday or Wednesday.

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The p and cs on the triune nature of God are most interesting. Love

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Hello, my name is ---- and I, not unlike you, study God's Word and seek the truth. I dont want you to take this the wrong way, or be insulted. If you feel I have please forgive me. I just am searching for the truth. I was just wondering if you are aware that the word "rapture" is not in the KJB or in the manuscripts. The entire rapture theory I believe to be a lie. It was started by a mentally disturbed lady in the 1800's who was having a 'vision' that she said had a dark and evil presence to it. There were a few preachers present and they picked up on theáidea of everybody flying away and they used this basis for their new church. Then most other denominations began to teach it as well. Our Father allowed this to happen [for it will be part of the antichrist's (Satan) doctrine when he shows up here] as part of the test of who you will follow, the false christ (antichristos- instead of christ who isáSatan himself) who shows up at the 6th trump or the real Christ who comes on the 7th trump. I can give you more info and links so you may research this all for yourself if you have the notion to. Thank you for your time and God Bless.

P.S. I enjoy reading your work and hope you are correct on your dates for the return of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, for I too believe it will be soon since we are the last generation, the Generation of the Fig Tree.áBut if you are not, do not be discouraged because the window of this generation does not end until 2027.

My reply

> the word "rapture" is not in the KJB or in the manuscripts.

Neither is Trinity, First Advent or Second Advent. Would you like to toss them all out?

Maybe you would rather call the Rapture the Harpazo. That is the Greek word used for "caught up" in I Thess. 4:17. You could also go back to the Greek and call Jesus "Iesous." Or even go back to the Hebrew and call him Yah Shua (Joshua in English). They are essentially the same.

I can tell you where we got the word Rapture if you like. In my Latin Bible, harpazo was translated into Latin as "rapiemir." That was brought into English as Rapture, but you don't have to use it. Harpazo will do just fine.

> The entire rapture theory I believe to be a lie. It was started by a
> mentally disturbed lady in the 1800's who was having a 'vision'

You are just parroting something you have heard. If you had done some good research, you could have found that early writers taught the Rapture. Here is one.

In his just-under-1500-word sermon, "On the Last Times, the Antichrist, and the End of the World," Pseudo-Ephraem (c.374-627 AD) said, "All the saints and elect of God are gathered together before the tribulation, which is to come, and are taken to the Lord, in order that they may not see at any time the confusion which overwhelms the world because of our sins." I have the entire text of his sermon both in Latin and in English.

If there is no Rapture, why does Luke 21:36 say, "WATCH ye therefore, and PRAY ALWAYS, that ye may be ACCOUNTED WORTHY to ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS (the Tribulation) that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man"? The word for escape is EKPHEUGO, "escape OUT OF or AWAY FROM." We get our word EXIT from the prefix, "EK." Strong's gives "vanish" as an alternate meaning for EKPHEUGO. From ESCAPE to VANISH, not the slightest hint of "survive through."

> for it will be part of the antichrist's (Satan) doctrine when he shows up here

I don't think so. It would be mentioned in the Bible if that was what he would teach. We would be warned against it, just as we are warned, "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not" (Mt. 24:26).

> the false christ...who shows up at the 6th trump

What do you mean the 6th trump? That is the eve of Trumpets, the last day of this age. The 6th seal is broken in Rev. 6:12. Verse 17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come." It is 6:00 PM, when the next Jewish day starts. The Wrath of God falls the next day. The False Prophet shows up at the breaking of the 4th SEAL. Rev. 6:7 says, "behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was DEATH, and HELL followed with him."

Isa. 28:15-18 says, "Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with DEATH, and with HELL are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves: Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD...Judgment also will I lay to the line...waters shall overflow the hiding place. And your covenant with DEATH shall be disannulled, and your agreement with HELL shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through (on the Feast of Trumpets that begins the millennial Day of the Lord), then ye shall be trodden down by it."

> or the real Christ who comes on the 7th trump.

I don't think Christ will return at the 7th trump. One "great mountain burning with fire" will have impacted the Mediterranean Sea (Zeph. 2:4,5). Another "great star (aster, star or asteroid) from heaven, burning as it were a lamp" will have destroyed Babylon. The worldwide earthquake will have made every wall fall (Eze. 38:20). There will be fires and dead bodies all over the Earth beneath the thick darkness of the day (Joel 2:1-3). Amos 8:3 says, "there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence."

Under those conditions, when civilization as we know it is wiped out, Christ could not return in glory that day. The devastation will be catastrophic.

The Second Advent is not on a dark day. Zech. 14:5-7 says, "the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor DARK: But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light."

"So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day (the day of catastrophe) and forward" (Eze. 39:22). "And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown THE DAY THAT I SHALL BE GLORIFIED, saith the Lord GOD" (Eze. 39:12,13).

The "LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the Earth" (Hos. 6:3). The First Advent was as the former rain, on Tishri 1, the first day of the Jewish Civil Year. The Second Advent will be as the latter rain, Nisan 1, the first day of the Regnal and Sacred Year.

The 7th trumpet judgment will be on Tishri 1. There will be the 7 months between the Day of God's Wrath and the Second Advent on Nisan 1, because that Jewish year is a Leap Year, when they add a 13th month. I think it is 5768.

This agrees with Eze. 29:17,21. The date is set by v. 17: "the first month, in the first day of the month." Then verse 21 says, "In that day (Nisan 1) will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth (Word, Logos) in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD."

> the window of this generation does not end until 2027

I think the Sign of the End of the Age was the Six-Day War of 1967. That year + 40 years is 2007. Did Israel wander in the wilderness more than 40 years, which means probation and testing?

I Cor. 10:11,12 says, "Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for OUR admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." Agape

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