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The first english translation of the dead sea scrolls bible has just been published, and since two of the three authors, Martin Abegg Jr, and Peter Flint reside at the Trinity Western University which is only 15 miles away from my house, I had prayer and discussion with them. Specifically, some of the topics of your three wonderful books, and P&C 435.

To refresh our memory, nearly all modern english translations of the Old Testament are based on both the Leningrad Codex and the Aleppo Codex, which are part of what is known as the "Masoretic Text" a large group of texts. Between 1947 and 1956, eleven caves were discovered in the region of Khirbet Qumran, proximate to the Dead Sea and fourteen miles from Jerusalem. These older texts offer and confirm some very interesting correlations with present believers revelations. 1Kings 7:25-34 (fragments) contain additonal description of the "four wheels of bronze" and "axles of bronze" I am not going to write out all the fragments here, but when I studied them, they confirm further your correct interpretation of the "wheels" of Ezekiel and the Cherubim (planets). I hope you manage to obtain one of these bibles, they are a treasure!

The scrolls of Isaiah were discovered nearly complete, a wonderful gift from our Father. Regarding Isaiah 19:19, all three of us prayed and determined that this in no way represents the Giza Pyramid. Now I know we are just three "jars of clay", but certainly as more than two believers gathered, the Lord was present with us. We accepted by faith, prayer and discernment that "an altar" does NOT refer to the Giza Pyramid. Also, there are approximately 80 pyramids, which is more than "an altar" (one). And the other 79 or so are not in the location of this Giza Pyramid. May you also pray and receive discernment Marilyn.

Lastly, is another interesting occurrence. On December 18 (8:30pm) my wife suddenly felt overwhelming motivation to go outside (it is cold here now!) and look up in the sky. I was not home until late that night. She did not know the star, but the star she watched was wiggling and wobbling around. She went inside and got my older daughter, who came out and saw what she was talking about. They watched this wiggling and wobbling for over half an hour, before it got too cold to stay out. They told their story to me, and I did not know what to make of this. I asked obvious things such as to discern sattelites, meteors, airplanes, twinkling, body shaking from cold, atmospheric distortions, high level clouds and so on. I was convinced these were not so. It was overcast for the next three days, but on the fourth night later December 23 (10:30 pm), I got my chance to go out and investigate. I saw this same thing they talked about, this star was wiggling and wobbling about. Imagine my thoughts when I went inside to get my star atlas to confirm this wiggling star was indeed ALPHA (meaning brightest) TAURI. Specifically, Aldeberan in the constellation of Taurus. Now Bullinger and your wonderful writing of witness of the stars identify Taurus as the coming Messiah. I feel Alpha refers to Christ in the sense of the Alpha and the Omega. I stayed outside for half an hour, to check if any other star (especially those in Orion) were wiggling. NO OTHER STAR including those even brighter were doing this. ONLY Alpha Tauri was. I checked this out thoroughly, and I have been looking at the sky and through telescopes for over twenty years. So what do I think was witnessed? I don't suggest that Alpha Tauri was physically moving in the sky, this would have been reported all over the place. No such reports. But I do accept and believe by faith that just as only those worthy of the pre-tribulation bride of Christ will hear "come up hither" of 1Thess 4:13-18, that the Lord could touch the minds of myself, my wife, and my oldest daughter, to allow us to SEE this sign. What an incredible thing to witness! As always, let no one suggest we are puffing ourselves up with some sort of self glorification. I just want to share with everyone what we saw and examined carefully! Agape Love to all the Brothers and Sisters, Keep up the great web page writings Marilyn, there is not much time left to write!

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I'm glad you are enjoying your new Bible. I am certainly enjoying mine, the exeGesis Parallel Bible. I was so excited to get into it that I laid aside for a few days the "Dead Sea Scrolls," by Wise, Abegg and Cook. The prophetic scriptures just called for attention right away. I am now ready to finish the last third of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

In this Bible, Herb Jahn has transliterated some words, which can throw me at times. If you get one of these Bibles, be sure it is the Parallel one so you have the KJV right there to refer to. I like it being very literal, especially having the names of God as close to the original as possible, but I do have to learn the meaning of some new words along the way. Because of his background, he used some words that he understood, but I did not--accoucheuses instead of midwives, for instance. He used things like misvah for a command and qurbana for a hallowed oblation, so I need the KJV alongside to be sure I take what he says correctly.

I agree that the Giza pyramid is not an altar, but it could be a pillar. I feel that I am well grounded in the Bible and open minded enough to give the thing some thought, unafraid of being led astray. Anything such as this that I can not be sure of, yea or nay, I just look at it, then tack it back there in my mind to process later if something else turns up. I never have thought that measurements in it could fortell dates of upcoming events, though.

This pyramid is a strange thing, isn't it? How could the ancients build something that we don't know how to build that well today? The extremely close fit of the stones alone is astonishing. I read that you can't get a dollar bill between them. I also read that the reason the capstone did not fit was because of a 4" mistake in laying out the foundation. We can only guess why that mistake was made. We do know that God has everything under his control.

The capstone fits Christ being made the headstone of the corner, but that fits the width of fabric representing Earth that folds over the back corner of the Tabernacle too, so it is not necessary to look for another meaning. However, that does not limit it. There could be other meanings too.

Things that are clear in the Bible are a sure thing. Anything else, maybe yes, maybe no. I try to stay alert to new developments. Not knowing for sure what the pyramid is for, I have to consider that the gold capstone going up could herald Christ's return. I sure wouldn't want to say it didn't and then find out that it did. I would rather say that I don't know. It does seem possible in light of other signs we are seeing. I'll leave it there. We will find out one of these days.

The sphinx does seem to tell us where the Zodiac story begins and ends. It is mysterious too. Was it built at about the same time as the pyramid?

I have such a healthy curiosity about so many things in this world that I do not understand fully that I must always be on guard to not get so involved with something else that I neglect my main priorities. I take in all kinds of information, but I must push some things that I do not understand fully to the background and let them simmer there while I tend to things with a higher priority. Maybe some other information will bring it into focus for me....

The star that you have had your attention called to really catches my interest. ALDEBARAN (THE CAPTAIN, LEADER, OR GOVERNOR, which is Christ) is in the eye of the white bull reem (Taurus) that looks right at the head and skin of the roaring lion (Satan) that Orion (Christ) holds up as the victor's trophy.

If I am right about the new gamma ray burster (GRB991216) being in Orion (it is at 77.38 Right Ascension and 11.30 Declination), ALDEBARAN would be looking right at it. I hope you can check me out on that. Not being used to plotting by Right Ascension and Declination, I want to be sure I am figuring it correctly. Since my Star Guide does not have the Zodiac figures drawn on the constellations, I can't be positive, but I think this GRB would be in the lion's head.

Aside from this, Taurus is interesting, because the lineup of Sun, Moon and 5 major planets will be grouping together as they leave Aries and enter Taurus about May 4 or 5, 2000. Agape

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Well, you at least answered my questions ... sort of. Anyway, you say I have nothing to lose and so much to gain by going towards God. I think not. You have everything to lose. You lose your freedom to do what you want on the short time you are alive. God does have rules. If there is a big, invisible, spooky, old man in the sky that wants us all to be can we do that without putting restrictions and limits on what we do?

***From Marilyn: I can't imagine anything that you could do that would be worth going to hell for. You will have all eternity to regret your decision. Man was put on this Earth to be tested, and you have failed your test.

Look, its my belief that religion was created not only in celebration for a good crop or a place to blame problems, but also as a holding cell. Its meant to keep people in line. Religion puts a label on what's good or bad ... there is no direct sin or virtue. Its all in the perception of the person it happened to. That's where the truth lies. Not in a book written thousands of years ago by people who were barely civilized and couldn't even fathom what the world is like now.

***That is where you are wrong. The Bible is God breathed. Man was only a scribe to write under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God. There is no way that man could have produced it on his own. Only God, who knows the end from the beginning could have produced 66 books written down by many different people in different ages that all hangs together and tells one consistant story of what has already happened, is happening today, and is going to happen at the end of this age. Instead of 66 books, it really is one book with 66 chapters. It took one mastermind to oversee the whole thing. There is so much information packed into that one small book that it would take more than one lifetime to understand it all. Only God could have packed all that into one small book. His detailed prophecies that were of things in the past all came true 100%. Therefore, his prophecies of things that are still future will come true 100%.

***Do you have any idea what this world is facing in our days? As this age ends, two asteroid impacts will destroy civilization as we know it. There will be a worldwide earthquake and every wall will fall. One mountain sized piece of what is probably a binary asteroid will impact the Mediterranean Sea. Another larger piece will wipe Babylon on the Euphrates River in Iraq off the map and hurt Egypt so badly that no one will live there for the next forty years.

***Rev. 6:15-17 tells us that "the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

***Scripture tells us that this globe will be turned upside down. Can you imagine what will happen to the oceans and seas when that violent rocking takes place? The overflowing water will reach the hiding places. The dead will lay around the Earth. There will be so few men left that a child could write the number.

***About 3 years before the catastrophe, all people will be required to take the Mark of the Beast to be able to buy or sell. Here is the warning, so you can't say you were not told. Rev. 13:16-18 says, "And he (the False Prophet) causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

***On Dec. 10th a company received a patent for what may turn out to be the Mark of the Beast. It is a rice-sized bio-chip implant that is powered by muscle movement. It can store your whole life history and can be read by a scanner similar to the bar code scanners. Here is more info on it:
Re: The Mark is now being publicly announced!

Please see the above link which appeared as a headline on the Drudge Report website today. It is obvious that we are very close to having these implants widely available...interesting the timeline has them ready by year end 2000. Notice also how they are expounding on all the wonderful benefits of such a device. The PR campaign seems to have begun. I can understand how the masses of people unaware of Biblical prophesy will think this is the greatest invention ever. The sad fact is that it could be used for good, but in this world, we can't assume that's all it will be used for.

FWD: World's First Digital Device Implantable in Humans (same URL as above)

PALM BEACH, Fla.--Dec. 15, 1999--Inserted just under the skin, with maintenance-free regenerating power supply, miniature "Digital AngelŽ" has multi-billiondollar market potential.

Applied Digital Solutions, announced that it has acquired the patent rights to a miniature digital transceiver -- which it has named "Digital AngelŽ" -- that can be used for a variety of purposes, such as providing a tamper-proof means of identification for enhanced e-business security, locating lost or missing individuals, tracking the location of valuable property and monitoring the medical conditions of at-risk patients....

The implantable transceiver sends and receives data and can be continuously tracked by GPS (Global Positioning Satellite) technology. The transceiver's power supply and actuation system are unlike anything ever created. When implanted within a body, the device is powered electromechanically through the movement of muscles, and it can be activated either by the "wearer" or by the monitoring facility. A novel sensation feedback feature will even allow the wearer to control the device to some degree....

We expect to produce a prototype of the device by the end of 2000...."
***Look how serious this is. Rev. 14:9-11 says, "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his MARK in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone."

***I could be wrong on the timing, but the way I figure it, this mark will become mandatory in 2004, and the asteroid impacts will be Sept. 13, 2007.

That brings up something else. Where are all the religious pioneers and saints and all the kinds of people that are in the Bible?

***They are in Heaven with the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ right now. He is Lord of the living, not the dead. Only their body died. The real person went to a better place where they will only see with their eyes the asteroid impacts--much as we saw the comet pieces hit Jupiter.

Haven't really heard on the news lately that God spoke to some poor schmuck and now he's traveling the countryside preaching the world and performing miracles. Maybe you can help explain this ... or you could just let God do it for you. Thank you for your time.

***God has already done it. There will be two prophets of God (Moses and Elijah) prophesying during the first 3 1/2 years after a seven-year peace covenant is confirmed by two of Satan's men, the Beast and the False Prophet of Revelation 13 and 19:19, which says, "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone."

***Moses and Elijah will be killed by the Satan-possessed False Prophet in the middle of the seven-year Tribulation. They will not be buried. They will lay right in the street in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 days. Then a shiver should run through you, and the whole world, as you see this on TV: "And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them" (Rev. 11:11,12).

***The way I figure it, from the day they are killed to the catastrophe will be 1040 days. The man that has God's two witnesses killed will be the man that will require you to take the mark of the beast or you can't buy or sell. If you take it, you are out of luck right then. If you don't, you can still be saved by accepting Christ until the day of the catastrophe. That is unless you die before that. No man has a chance after that. It is appointed to man once to die, and after that the judgment.

***I feel sorry for you because of all the things you will have to go through, first on the surface of this Earth and then in its bottomless pit. The price of doing whatever it is that you think is so important is steep. Too steep for me. As for me, I choose to accept the Lord Jesus Christ's loving offer of salvation instead. He suffered and died on the cross so I would not have to die for my own sins. I am eternally grateful. I will be in Heaven while you are going through the worst seven years since there was a nation here on Earth.

***There are two times that a group of believers will be caught up to Heaven, once before the Tribulation starts and as this age ends and the Day of God's Wrath begins. You have two chances left. After the Pre-Trib Rapture takes place, you have only one chance left. I hope you will take it.

If you have questions you would like answered, ask right away. I can't answer you after I am in Heaven. The Rapture will be soon. You are fast running out of time. In the love of God

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Could you please answer the following questions?

I have been reading you pages on RAPTURE. Did you originally predict 1998 and it did not come? If so, are you now anticipating 2007?

Also, I find it very hard to believe that unless you "Believe", you will not be allowed to enter the KIngdom. My son-in-law is a wonderful MORAL young man, however he has a high level of doubt. I can not believe that God would not allow him to enter. Please explain.

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I can't see how you could read even my Home Page and think that I am anticipating 2007. I am anticipating Pentecost, 2000.

From 1968 to 1998, I thought the Rapture would be on Pentecost, 1998. Then I thought it might be on Pentecost, 1999. What I hadn't noticed was that in the parable of the barren fig tree in Lu. 13:6-9, Jesus only LOOKS in the first two years of Israel's grace years. He comes and speaks in the third year. He neither comes nor speaks in the extra year.

These verses may give us a good clue. Job 7:1 says, "Is there not an appointed time to man upon earth? are not his days also like the days of an hireling?" Ex. 21:2 says, "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and IN THE SEVENTH HE SHALL GO OUT FREE for nothing."

The Oslo Accords were signed Sept. 13, 1993. That seems to be the beginning of the seven good years. I hope that in the seventh (on Pentecost, 2000) we shall go out free at the Pre-Trib Rapture.

> I find it very hard to believe that unless you "Believe", you
> will not be allowed to enter the KIngdom.

It is simple. "God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is NOT condemned: but he that believeth NOT IS CONDEMNED already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God" (Jn. 3:17,18).

God offers us Salvation as a free gift. If one does not accept the gift--uh oh!! Jesus bought us with a stiff price on his part. He died in our stead. If we don't accept him, we will have to die for our own sins, and no one is sinless.

Rom. 10:9,10 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Time is getting short. I hope you can convince him to accept Christ. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain. Agape

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i think it is kinda hard to understand all of this, and i was wondering if there is anyway you can give me your thoughts on what will happen in year 2000? and whats is rapture? maybe a shortened version?

My reply

Short N sweet, the Rapture is when Jesus comes and those who are ready are caught up to meet him in the air and are whisked away to his heavenly home. I hope it will take place on Pentecost, 2000, June 9 or 10.

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I can't believe I'm e-mailing you!! I just don't do things like this. But you sure are a dedicated saint of our Lord to do so much research regarding His return!!!!!

I--like many--have always been taught that when Jesus said "No man KNOWS," He was referring to saints in the present as well as in the time he was speaking. But you certainly make some interesting points!! I would love to believe that your calendar is true.

You, like our very well-studied, conservative and cautious pastor, base your calendar on the Hebrew SPIRITUAL calendar.

I also like your concept of the "bride making herself ready." It sure has been happening for some people, that is for sure!! But the last-days revival...that sure hasn't happened yet.... not much time left, according to your calendar!! May the Lord be honored, His perfect will accomplished on earth as it is in heaven. God bless you for your faithfulness to Him and His cause!!

My reply

I don't know whether or not we will see a great revival before the first Rapture. In Rev. 5:9, we see the wise Philadelphian virgins in Heaven before the first seal that starts the Tribulation is broken. We know that they are ready in time.

In Mt. 25:1-12 and Rev. 3:14f, we see that some believers, the foolish virgins and Laodiceans, are left behind at the first Rapture. Lu. 12:46 shows that these will be cut off and appointed their "portion with the unbelievers" in the Tribulation. That should wake them up. Besides these, many non-believers will see the Rapture, "and fear, and shall trust in the LORD" (Psa. 40:1-3). I have an idea that all these will be the ones that are on fire for the Lord during the Tribulation. Between these and the ministry of the prophets Moses and Elijah, there should be revival in the first half of the Tribulation.

In Rev. 7:9,14, we see that "a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues" are caught up to Heaven in the Pre-Wrath Rapture. Such a great multitude in such a short time suggests revival to me.

May the Lord be honored in all we do, say or think. He deserves it.

Thanks for writing. May God bless us all in this coming year. Agape

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Re: Origin of Man
I am finding your website very interesting and informative, have it bookmarked, have been through a lot of links and wound up here. Somewhere I passed a site that remarked there was possibly a 12th planet inhabited by another race, which passes through our planetary system every 3,600 years. It was also conjectured that these beings (who were mentioned in the Bible as having come to earth and "mated" with us ?) possibly created us. I hold to the belief that Satan and his angels were cast down from heaven and therefore could possibly be the "inhabitants" of this planet. He is also the prince of the power of the air, and I know he is active on spiritual planes...however, I am now getting confused. This opens up the possiblity that these beings from this planet, whom I believe are demons, created us, or mated with us? Or...if they are just benign beings who created us or bred with us, how does our Lord fit into this? Thank you for any views you may have.

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You must have run across Sitchin's book, "The Twelfth Planet." I disagree with him. He did realize that there used to be a planet where our Asteroid Belt is now. I give him credit for that. However, I think he made up the 12th planet.

The 10 widths of fabric that made up the covering for the Tabernacle stood for 10 planets (cherubim) in this solar system. That is why cherubim were embroidered on each one. The planet that was assigned to Satan is called Rahab in the Bible. It seems to have been hit by a rock and split apart. The pieces of Rahab make up our Asteroid Belt.

Isa. 51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD (the pre-incarnate Christ, Yah Veh Sabaoth); awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (lit., split) Rahab, and wounded the dragon (Satan)?"

The reason I think a rock hit Rahab is because a rock will be thrown at Earth on the Day of God's Wrath, and it is "as in the ancient days."

Isa. 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here (Babylon)? and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here (on Earth) as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high (on Rahab), and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock (a piece of Rahab)? Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. He will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country (toss the piece of Rahab that Satan now lives on into Iraq): there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

Rev. 9:1,2 says, "to him (Satan) was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit."

I believe this is the "curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth...I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts (Yah Veh Sabaoth), and it shall enter into the house of the thief (False Prophet), and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name (the Beast/Tribulation Pope): and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof" (Zech. 5:3,4).

God created Adam and Eve. All mankind since are reproduced. Before man, God created the angels, each one separately. One third of the angels sided with Satan (Rev. 12:4). A portion of those "kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation." These God has "reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" (Jude 6).

I believe this last group of angels are those mentioned in Gen. 6:1-4. It says, "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God (fallen angels of Jude 6) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." This is why the Flood came upon Earth, to destroy these hybrids. Satan probably thought he would destroy pure humanity so that the Saviour could not come, and God overruled him.

The pre-incarnate Christ is the creator. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men" (Jn. 1:1-4). He created man and later on "was made flesh, and dwelt among us" (Jn. 1:14) so he could die in our stead and therefore be our Saviour. We need to give honor where honor is due. Agape

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