Pro and Con 449
Note: 1-28-00. Surprise, surprise. Does it really snow in Jerusalem? Sometimes, lightly, but 15"? You should see the hills of the West Bank now. This kind of snowstorm is rare. The northern Negev desert got covered for the first time in 50 years, with Beer Sheba getting about 4". In the Golan, Mt. Hermon's upper reaches now have 23', a stark contrast to last year, when almost no snow fell. Tel Aviv got rain and flooding.
Can you picture Amman, Jordan with 24" of snow? the normally arid desert in south and east Jordan with 36"? Syria and Lebanon got snow too.
FWD: World's elite gather for blue-chip mountain summit. DAVOS, Switzerland, Jan 27 (AFP)
The world's political and business elite were gathering in the Swiss Alps for the start Thursday of an
annual blue-chip summit to discuss the world's woes and attempt to sketch out its future....
The top-table annual conference brings together over 30 heads of state and government, scores of
ministers and more than 1,000 top business chiefs for six days of global brainstorming in the Swiss ski
resort of Davos.
US President Bill Clinton, who arrives Saturday, is the star of this year's show, the 30th edition of the
Davos meeting which in the past has played host to historic events including key Middle East and South
The meeting, this year, entitled "New Beginnings: Making a Difference," is billed as the first major
international meeting of the 21st century, and a chance to set the agenda for the new millennium....
"The compounding forces of globalization, the technology and biology revolutions, and the emergence
of the e-economy confront us with a challenge of unprecedented magnitude in modern history."...
Other key players on the agenda include South African President Thabo Mbeki, British premier Tony
Blair, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and Jordan's King Abdullah.
Chinese deputy premier Wu Bangguo, heading Beijing's delegation in Davos, arrived in Geneva on
Israeli premier Ehud Barak is also on the schedule, although his office warned earlier this week that he
might not come, since a trilateral Mideast mini-summit with Clinton and Arafat could not be organized
as the US president is only in town on the Jewish Sabbath.
Gal. 3:19-26, Mt. 5:17-19, Jer. 8:4,8,9
...Since Jeremiah speaks to many future conditions and circumstances regarding
the people of G_d, including, I believe, those who would be grafted into the
commonwealth through faith in Messiah, the jurisdiction of these verses is
extended to include "Christians." By "Christians," I don't mean the nominal
variety, but those believers in the Amendment to Torah, the B'rit Chadasha,
who have exercised saving faith in Messiah.
I also think this inclusive efficacy is true of all the passages in the
Tenach heretofore regarded as only for Israel. How else could such
incredible and wonderful truths such those of Psalm 1, for example, be of
any real significance to believers of the B'rit Chadasha?
Having said this, and using Jeremiah 7:8-10 as a backdrop, I offer the
following regarding chapter 8:8&9:
Much of what Non-believing, legalist Jews and Lawless, antinomian Christians
(as well as others) have written regarding the Scriptures in general, and
the nature of and man's relationship to G_d in particular, is precisely
that, falsehood. Many respected theologians, preachers and Rabbis from the
Judeo-Christian community...Orthodox as well as Fundamentalist,
Evangelical...will have much for which to answer when such is tested by fire
on that day. Baruch HaSHem that He has preserved the root, i.e. Torah, by
which Yeshua and the Apostles, including Sha'ul, measured, sifted and
presented truth, and by which we can do the same today. Shalom Ahlaychem
> I also think this inclusive efficacy is true of all the passages in the
> Tenach heretofore regarded as only for Israel.
I agree that the totality of Scripture is for all mankind. The descendants of Abraham were chosen to bring Scripture, the Redeemer and Salvation to the world. We are not so different, one from the other, either, since the progenator of all of us was Noah.
We have to read Scripture very carefully and think of all the ramifications to see when it only applies to Israel and when it applies to all believers. The Church did not take over God's promises to Israel, but interwoven with her story is His story, and that does have to do with us as well as Israel. Many things that happened to Israel were types of things still to come. We can't divide the Bible up and neglect any of it. If we do, there will surely be something that we will miss that we should not have missed.
> Much of what Non-believing, legalist Jews and Lawless, antinomian Christians (as well as
> others) have written regarding the Scriptures in general, and the nature of and man's
> relationship to G_d in particular, is precisely that, falsehood.
What we can find on the Internet is a good example. There are all kinds of ideas and interpretations out there--wild, sound and everything in between. We sure have to pray for the Lord to give us discernment.
On a different subject. One reason that I love to read different versions is that something will suddenly come clear just because the translator words it a bit differently. While reading the Complete Jewish Bible, I realized that Acts 1:12 makes it more likely that "when the day of Pentecost was fully come" (2:1, KJV), it was Mon., Sivan 7, just as I decided the day Ed and I were in the end of the rainbow 1-26-99.
Jesus ascended on the 40th day, then Acts 1:12,13 (KJV) says that afterward, "returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey. And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John..."
The CJB is clearer. It says, "Then they returned the SHABBAT-walk distance from the Mount of Olives to Yerushalayim. After entering the city, they went to the upstairs room where THEY WERE STAYING." It was evening, after 6:00 PM. The Shabbat had begun at 6:00. Therefore, I think the 40th day was Friday. I ran for my 1998 Jewish Talmudic Calendar. The Resurrection on Nisan 16 would have been Sunday, just as in 30 AD. I counted 40 days. It came out Fri., Iyar 26. Thus, the 50th day, Pentecost, was Mon., Sivan 7, in 30 AD.
Sivan 7, 5760, is June 10, 2000, the anniversary of the taking of the rest of Jerusalem and the temple area in the Six-Day War of 1967. Believers are the spiritual temple of the Holy Spirit. Will we be taken (raptured) on June 10? We don't have long to wait to find out.
Col. 3:16,17 (CJB) says, "So don't let anyone pass judgment on you in connection with eating and drinking, or in regard to a Jewish festival or Rosh-Hodesh or Shabbat. THESE ARE A SHADOW OF THINGS THAT ARE COMING." Thus, the festival of Pentecost seems more likely for the Rapture than Ascension Day. The feasts are "a shadow of things that are coming."
Re: The name of the Lord. The CJB usually has ADONAI (my Lord) for YHVH (KJV uses LORD). However, bless his heart, David Stern put "Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh" in these critical passages, Ex. 3:13-15; 6:2,3; 34:5-7, "Otherwise" he said, "the force of what is being communicated would be greatly compromised."
Here is what the CJB says, Ex. 3:13-15: "Moshe said to God, "Look, when I appear before the people of Isra'el and say to them 'The God of your ancestors has sent me to you'; and they ask me, 'What is his name?' what am I to tell them?" God said to Moshe, "Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh [I am/will be what I am/will be]," and added, "Here is what to say to the people of Israe'el: 'Ehyeh [I Am or I Will Be] has sent me to you.'" God said further to Moshe, "Say this to the people of Isra'el: 'Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh [ADONAI], the God of your fathers, the God of Avraham, the God of Yitz'chak and the God of Ya'akov, has sent me to you.' THIS IS MY NAME FOREVER; THIS IS HOW I AM TO BE REMEMBERED GENERATION AFTER GENERATION."
Ex. 6:2,3: "God spoke to Moshe; he said to him, "I am ADONAI. I appeared to Avraham, Yitz'chak and Ya'akov as El Shaddai, although I did not make myself known to them by my name, Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh [ADONAI]."
Ex. 34:5-7: "ADONAI descended in the cloud, stood with him there and PRONOUNCED THE NAME of ADONAI. ADONAI passed before him and proclaimed: "YUD-HEH-VAV-HEH!!! Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh [ADONAI] is God..."
I wish I could have heard that. We will know some day, and it may be pretty soon. Shalom and Agape
FWD: here we go....
U.N. CALLS FOR WORLD GOVERNMENT MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, Jan. 27, 2000
WorldNetDaily columnist Jon E. Dougherty's article today entitled Major U.N. Confab Seeks to Implement 'Global Decision-Making' World Government Meeting in September begins: "The United Nations is sponsoring a global government conference in the fall designed to examine 'the future of the world,' and to create 'an organizational structure whereby the peoples of the world can participate effectively in global decision-making in the context of the United Nations system.' In preparation for this unprecedented conference, 'Charter 99: A Character for Global Democracy' calls for all nations to adopt principles of 'international accountability, justice, and sustainable development' under the umbrella of democratic representation--through the United Nations. Called the 'Millennium Assembly and Summit,' the meeting is part of the U.N.'s latest initiative to implement global government. Paving the way for the meeting, Charter 99 is sponsored by a consortium of influential non-governmental organizations, or NGOs--including the World Federalist Association, Westminster UNA, the One World Trust, the Commission for Global Governance, and the Royal Commonwealth Society. Addressed to 'all the governments and peoples of the world they represent,' it openly invites representatives from every country to the U.N. conference..."
Re: The Open Door
I was wondering if you have yet read the work done by Lyn Mize. I was
wanting to know if you believe that JFK is the anitchrist too. If you
click on the page below then click on the chapter called "the
anitchrist" he talks about why he thinks JFK is the antichrist. I now
believe he is after reading this. Take care.
***From Marilyn: I have read it and don't for a minute believe it. His proofs don't hold water. Here are some quotes from his site. My comments are interspersed.
...the searcher for Antichrist...must believe that he is dead. Also, the Scriptures depict someone who has apparently died as a result of a mortal headwound.
***Not to me. Rev. 13:3 speaks of the beast (world government) out of the sea (nations, Rev. 17:15) that has 7 heads (Babel, Babylon, Media Persia, Greece, Rome, Ecclesiastical Rome, UN/Federation of the World) and 10 horns (kings over the 10 divisions the world has already been divided into). Rev. 13:3 says, "I saw one of his heads (the 5th one, Rome) AS IT WERE (symbolic language, i.e., not to be taken literally) wounded to death: and his deadly wound was healed." The power of the Holy Roman Empire was transferred to Ecclesiastical Rome. The leader of the 6th head is the Pope. It is not the Pope that died, but the Holy Roman Empire that ended. It's power was transferred to Eccclesiastical Rome, headed up by the Pope.
...The Antichrist's head wound was prophesied in Gen 3:15 where the mortal head
wound is first mentioned....
***Gen. 3:15 says, "I will put enmity between thee (Satan) and the woman, and between thy seed (the Satan possessed False Prophet, who speaks like a dragon, Rev. 13:11) and her seed (Jesus); it (her seed, Jesus) shall bruise thy (Satan in the False Prophet's) head, and thou (Satan) shall bruise his (Jesus') heel" (when his feet were nailed to the cross).
...Habbakuk 3:13 reveals another clue to the identity of Antichrist. In addition to
the scalp wound, it appears that Antichrist will have some damage at the base of
his neck. A wound at this very critical place may explain another prediction in
the Bible that he will have a withered arm.
Zec 11:17 (KJV) Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword
shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up,
and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.
Perhaps the wound to the head and scalp caused the blind right eye and this
indicates that the wound is on the right side of the head. Also the nerves to the
arms come out of the spine at the base of the neck. A wound here could cause a
***Zech. 11:17 is speaking of the False Prophet, who moves his headquarters to Babylon. The Sword of the Lord, the asteroid of Rev. 8:10 will wound him. This wounding is on the 2300th day (Dan. 8:14) of the shortened Tribulation, the Feast of Trumpets that begins the millennial Day of the Lord. Ithink it happens when the 3rd trumpet judgment hits Earth in 2007, not in 1963.
***None of the trumpet judgments have happened yet. They all strike Earth like quick drumbeats on the Day of God's Wrath, the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord. The asteroid of Rev. 8:8 hits at noon (Zeph. 2:4,5). The asteroid of Rev. 8:10 also strikes at noon (Job 20:23). Amos 8:9,10 says, "I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day: And I will turn your feasts (Feast of Trumpets, Joel 2:1-3; Mal. 2:3) into mourning...a bitter day."
...Rev 13:12 (KJV) And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him,
and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast,
whose deadly wound was healed.
The Antichrist will work closely with the false prophet, the Pope. The Pope will
cause the world to worship the Antichrist. This presents another clue to his
identity. The Antichrist will be closely aligned with the Catholic church. Even
though he is privately evil and ungodly, outwardly he will support the Catholic
church and worship as a Catholic.
***I think the Beast of Rev. 13:2-10 is the Pope. All "that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life" (Rev. 13:8). The False Prophet comes up out of the earth (i.e., Israel, not the sea, nations) (Rev. 13:11).
Rev 17:11 (KJV) And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is
of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
This is perhaps the most revealing verse for identifying the Antichrist. This
verse tells us that Antichrist will be the leader of the eighth world power, the
revived Roman Empire. This empire is represented by the ten toes of iron and
clay mentioned in Danial 2:42-43. This means that he will be the leader of the
European Common Market. This is also the Ten-Horned Beast mentioned in
The most intriguing part of this verse is that the Antichrist is also of the seventh
power. The seventh power is Babylon the Great which is the United States of
America. This means that Antichrist will have been a President of the United
States of America...
***The 7th is the UN/Federation of the World, ruled by the False Prophet during the last half of the 7-year Tribulation. The "eighth" is Satan himself, and he is of the seven, i.e., he guides them. Bringing the United States into this is not scriptural. Babylon is literal Babylon on the Euphrates River. Zech. 5:11 shows where the World Church ("MYSTERY, BABYLON," Rev. 17:) is moved. It says, "To build it an house in the land of Shinar (where the Tower of Babel was, Gen. 11:2): and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base," where the Mystery Religion of Babylon began.
***The 10 horns represent the 10 kings that rule under the leadership of the Tribulation Pope. They are over the 10 divisions the world has already been divided into.
Antichrist is also the Seed of the Serpent, and he had his head "bruised"
November 22, 1963 when an assassin's bullet ripped through his head giving
him a "mortal" or "fatal" wound....
***I think the False Prophet of Israel is the Seed of the Serpent. His wounds come on the 2300th day of the Tribulation.
Revelation 17:9-11 is one of the most mysterious passages in Scripture. It refers
specifically to the Antichrist. The "seven heads" are the leaders of the seven
world empires: (1) Egypt, (2) Assyria, (3) Babylon, (4) MedoPersia, (5)
Greece, (6) Rome, and (7) New Babylon (United States of America).
At the time John wrote Revelation, five of the empires had fallen and the sixth
empire, Rome, was in power. The leader of the seventh empire had not yet
come to power. When he does come to power he will remain for a little while.
This prophecy has been fulfilled since JFK has come to power and he was leader
of the seventh empire for approximately one thousand days.
He now "is not" but he will also be the eighth king who will reign over the
eighth empire which is the ten-horned beast or the revived Roman Empire. "Of
the seven" means that the origin of Antichrist was the seventh empire....
***Revelation is written as if the Rapture were "at hand" (Rev. 1:3; 22:10,20). When the Rapture is at hand, the 6th head (i.e., the Pope) is in power. The 6 kingdoms (or heads) of the great red dragon are: Babel, Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, Rome and Ecclesiastical Rome. The one who has not yet come is the 7th, the False Prophet, who is head over the UN/Federation of the World. The eighth, is Satan himself. He is of the 7, i.e., he guides the 7. The tail is Satan, who is the great red dragon, whose "tail drew the third part of the stars (angels) of heaven, and did cast them to the earth" (Rev. 12:4).
***Rev. 17:8 says, "The beast (Satan, the great red dragon) that thou sawest was (Satan was in Judas Iscariot), and is not (is not in man now); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition." Only Judas Iscariot and the False Prophet are refered to as sons of perdition.
Scriptures strongly imply that Antichrist will be
an Israelite, and that he will specifically be a member of the tribe of Dan (Gen.
49:16-17; Dan. 11:37). The Scriptures also indicate that he will rise to power
"out of the sea" (Rev. 13:1) which implies that he will be a Gentile. The grand
mystery is how both can be true. In actuality, he did rise up out of the Gentile
nations, but he is a real Israelite from the tribe of Dan
The rising "up out of the sea" has been fulfilled both literally and figuratively.
In August 1943 during World War II, JFK's PT boat was cut in two and sunk
from underneath him by a Japanese destroyer named "Amagiri"...Kennedy literally came up "out of the sea" and survived the destruction of the PT 109 which he commanded.
***It is the False Prophet that is out of the tribe of Dan, not the Beast. The Beast is out of the sea (nations, Rev. 17:15). This has nothing to do with a literal dunk in the ocean, and it has nothing to do with JFK.
***We must always compare everything with Scripture to see if these things are so.
FWD: Re: great post by David Hill on 5D recently...WOW!! I think you will like it.
I picked up a copy of Sky and Telescope the other day for the month of
Feburary, and was skimming through it when I came across something
On Dec 3rd of the year, someone spotted a New Nova in the Decan of
Aquila, the Eagle. This is a Decan of the Constellation Capricorn, that I
just happened to post on last week. The New Nova was brightest
around the 3rd and 4th, and continued all month. It occured near the
Star Al Okal, which is also in my post. According to Bullinger, this Star means, "Wounded in the Heel" refering
to Yeshuah as the one who would tread the serpent, and be wounded in
From a Hebrew Root Word Study (of similar words), however we learn even more about
this StarSign. Many of the words continue this theme of the Sacrifice
that I wrote about already: Restrict-Hold Back, A Prison, Separation, Attack, Forcible, To End,
Cease, Perish, Destruction, Basket-Cage-Trap, Entirely Consumed,
Sustenance, To Wound, Taunt, Insult, Reproach, Shame.
This theme shows us all that Yeshuah went trough in Purchasing Our
Redemption. The Rest of the Words in this Study show us the End of
Our Redemption, that He Purchased:
The Whole-All, To Finish, Maturity, Reins; and this is the real
interesting part; SOMETHING PREPARED, ESPOUCAL,
PERFECT-AS A BRIDE.
As I said, here we have reference to the Completion of our Redemption,
which is refering to the Marriage of the Church to OUR GREAT
You see, I have two main criteria for judging an astronomical event as a
Sign from Abba. One is that [in most cases] the Sign has to be visible to
the Naked Eye, which this New Nova was. And the Second is it
occurance on a Jewish Holiday, which it also was. You see, the night of
the 3rd of Dec, was the First Day of the Feast of Hanakkuh...
Look up for your redemption draws nigh!!!
Re: 7 Churches
I sure enjoy your Pro & Cons. Thank you sharing with us all the hard work
you do. I have a question - as usual. Is there any direct connection
between these 7 churches, and the common churches of today? Or
denominations? Like does Ephesus mean Babtist, and Smyrna mean Catholic?
"...and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus,
and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and
unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. "
And who are these Nicolaitanes?
"...So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes,
which thing I hate." Thanks in advance
...The messages to the 7 churches in Rev. 2 and 3 are given as if Christ is standing at the "open door" of Heaven when the Rapture is at hand, as it truly is in our days. They are an accurate assessment of different groups at that moment. Yet, Jesus went back in time, grabbed some history and then stretched it up to the present. Thus, we have a history of the developing church as well as a view near the time of the Rapture. Only one denomination stands out, as you will see.
Ephesus (meaning desired) represents both the early church and young churches of today. Part of the description of Christ given in the Preview of the Rapture in chapter 1, appears in His description to each group. To Ephesus, Jesus is "he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks" (at the Rapture). Thus their warning is, "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and REPENT, and do the first works; OR ELSE I will come unto thee quickly (at the Rapture), and will remove thy candlestick out of his place (already in Heaven, in the Preview), except thou REPENT." Return to thy first love is what they need to do. This is no time to cool off.
The Nicolaitans, those that set priests over the laity, were already trying to get a foothold in the early church. Some like power and want to lord it over the flock. The priesthood of the believer was being eroded. A pastor is supposed to take a lesson from Christ and serve the flock, be humble, not go off on an ego trip and set himself up as a king ruling an empire. Some make themselves out to be more than they ought. The church at Ephesus was commended because they hated the deeds of the Nicolaitans.
Starting toward the end of the first century came a terrible period of persecution by the Roman Emperors. There were times when the dead were piled in heaps in the streets. Thousands died. This period is represented by Smyrna (myrrh, an embalming spice that has to be beaten to emit its fragrance). These are reminded that Christ is a living Saviour. "These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive." No advise to repent was given. Martyrs for their faith are given white robes (Rev. 6:11). In history, this period lasted until the Edict of Toleration issued by Emperor Constantine in 316 AD. However, there are martyrs today.
There is a cryptic statement dropped into the message to Smyrna, "ye shall have tribulation ten days." There were persecutions under 10 Emperors, but it looks like it also stands for the years 5758 to 5768 now. I think 5758 was the 6000th year of man's test being mortal and knowing both good and evil, and that Satan was allowed to start sifting us as in a sieve to see of we stick by our beliefs or fall away when some trouble hits us. To prefigure it, Jesus said in Lu. 22:31,32, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren." We should take heed to these words as they very well apply right now. We are wheat. We must stay in the sieve no matter how hard we are shaken.
Jesus is "he which hath the sharp sword with two edges" to Pergamos (thoroughly married). The deeds of the Nicolaitans had become a doctrine that the Lord hates. It is the church under Imperial Favor, from 316 AD to now.
This is scary. Jesus said, "I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is." However, he said to hold fast his name, not deny the faith and REPENT. Balaamism is mentioned.
Satan's seat is probably that of the Pontifex Maximus of the Mystery Religion of Babylon. It was at Pergamos, but Attalus III willed Pergamos to Rome on his death.
By Thyatira (dominating female), the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes has full sway in the church with the Pontifex Maximus at its head. Balaamism has also triumphed. To her, Jesus is "the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass." He sees all and mentions a particular thing he has against her, she listens to Jezebel (meaning unmarried), and he mentions idols. I wouldn't be surprised if Jezebel stands for an apparition that encourages setting up shrines with idols.
Then he says to Thyatira, "I gave her SPACE TO REPENT...and she repented not." We are probably living in this space to repent right now. "Behold," he says, "I will cast her...into great tribulation, except they repent." Yet, to those "which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak," he says, "I will put upon you none other burden...hold fast till I come." The undercurrent seems to be the working of the Mystery Religion of Babylon, which became part of the church after pagans were brought into the church after Constantine's declaration that Christianity was the state religion.
Sardis (those escaping) represents the Protestant Reformation. Jesus is "he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars." He does not find their works perfect either. He says, "Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die." Just as the mention of the great tribulation in the previous message brings us to our days, this does too. Jesus says, "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee." He didn't command us to watch for nothing. Sardis is also told to REPENT, and not blotting a name out of the book of life is mentioned. Sounds like watching is serious business here.
Ah, Philadelphia (brotherly love). Not a word of condemnation is given. No command to repent is given. She already has repented. She is filled with the Holy Spirit and the evidence is her brotherly love. She seems to be made up of repentant living believers out of all groups that have gotten right with God, are wearing white robes, and have the "open door" of Heaven set before them. They are waiting patiently for the Rapture and will be kept "from" the trial that is coming upon the whole world. She is told to let no man rob her of her crown, and is to be a "pillar in the temple of my God." She sounds like the Bride of Christ.
And woe to lukewarm Laodicea (people of judgment). She has eyes that cannot see and is not wearing white garments. She thinks she has it made because she is Christian, never realizing that she is going to be spewed out of the Body of Christ at the Pre-Trib Rapture and picked up later at the Pre-Wrath Rapture. She seems to be living believers out of all groups that are lukewarm. To her, Jesus is "the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God." He gives her a last minute warning, "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and REPENT." Oh, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches." The Rapture is "at hand" (Rev. 1:3:22:10,22). Maranatha.
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