Pro and Con 464

Posted 3-13-00

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Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup: COLLECTING SHEKALIM The new umbrella organization formed to unify the efforts to increase Beit HaMikdash (Holy Temple) awareness has begun a new Shekalim campaign, in honor of the month of Adar and the traditional collection of shekels for the Temple. A silver-plated coin minted specially for the occasion is being offered for purchase, with the Hebrew words "Temple Treasury" engraved on one side, and "Anticipating the Renewal of the Commandment of Giving a Half-Shekel" on the other. Rabbi Menachem Makover, director of the Temple Institute in Jerusalem, told Arutz-7's Yosef Zalmanson today that the purpose of the campaign is to "increase public awareness of the importance of the Temple in our lives. We want to remind ourselves that this is a live issue, one that is dynamically relevant." He admitted that it is hard for us to understand what we are missing, "but our purpose is to do just that." Rabbi Makover said that the money being raised would be used not only to build more Temple instruments, "of which we presently have far from enough," but also to carry out large-scale educational programs on the centrality of the Temple. He emphasized that those who contribute are clearly informed that the money is not consecrated for actual Temple use, but merely for "preparing the way."

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Sapphires come in virtually any color you can imagine. We have called a particular color of red sapphire "ruby". The jewelry industry refers to all the non-blue sapphires as "fancy colors". It is interesting that many of the world's religions hold the blue sapphire in special regard. Remember that sapphire also comes in a star form, displaying a six-rayed star.

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Re: A big round of applause to you
Thank you for responding to my e-mail. Since I sent that query to you my search for the truth has taken me far deeper into the Word of God than I ever imagined I'd go. It has been a very sore point in my marriage as my husband is not a Believer and I have had to make a BIG effort to keep quiet about it all....

The reason I am telling you all of this is that it is through your work that God has brought me close to Himself and has enabled me to hold myself together. I keep reminding myself of the hope we have in Him and also of that strong possibility of going home to Heaven in just a few short months.

I am so glad that you are so focused and dedicated to doing what you believe to be the truth. Through you my faith has been challenged and has grown stronger and I am more in love with my Lord than ever before. With love in Jesus

My reply

Thanks for sharing this with me. Don't ever forget that Jesus said he would never leave us. You are NEVER alone.

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Is Ascension Day Iyar 25 (which would require you to count the omer differently than you did in P&C 462) as on you Expected Chronology of End-Time Events or Iyar 26 (May 31) as noted in several P&C's?

My reply

Iyar 26 (May 31, 2000) is Ascension Day (not figured by inclusive reckoning). By inclusive reckoning, it would be Iyar 25. The omer is counted from Resurrection Day (Nisan 16). The Ascension was on the 40th day of that 50-day countdown to Pentecost. The 40 years plus 120 days is figured differently. The 120 days are from Jesus' arrival at Bethany the day before Palm Sunday, Nisan 8 to Tishri 1 (not by inclusive reckoning. By inclusive reckoning, we would count Palm Sunday (Nisan 9) to the Feast of Trumpets (Tishri 1). Hope this helps. Agape

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Re: Polar shift? I think you are a very thorough bible scholar from your writings, and so I ask if you would look into this. This site talks extensively of a coming destruction due to polar shift, with many bible references. This could tie into your end times writings. Is there any thing valid to this? Thanks

My reply

I don't go along with why he thinks that there is a polar shift coming as a natural course of affairs on Earth. The Scriptures he refers to have to do with the Day of God's Wrath. The catastrophe when the Earth is turned upside down is caused by the asteroid impacts of Rev. 8:8,10.

He said that Peleg means earthquake. It means division. I do agree with him that the continents split apart in the days of Peleg. He said that America will sink into the ocean much like Atlantis. I find no Scripture that will support this. Babylon is literal Babylon on the Euphrates River, not New York. He said "the occult has maintained that the earth periodically RE-ORIENTATES ITSELF IN ITS AXIS SPIN." He is a Christian. Why would he pay attention to this?

I did learn something from him. Runway numbers at airports are assigned according to the # of degrees from magnetic north. That is interesting and sounds useful to pilots. Agape

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Years ago I read a book by Constance Cumbey on her choice for who she believed the Anti-Christ to be. Her book was very persuasive. Her choice: Maitreya. I have gone on his website. This website claims he will have a World Day of Declaration in which he will announce to the world his message. People who are not watching television will hear his message telepathically. The problem is not even he knows when this day will be. He must wait until the time is right so that he can have this World Day of Declaration. He is waiting for something. Could he be waiting for the one restraining to be taken out of the way? Could he be waiting for after the Rapture? The website is

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I don't know, but I don't put any stock in what he says. Personally, I think the Beast will be the Tribulation Pope and the False Prophet will be Jewish. Agape

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Here is an e-mail I received from Eric Casagrande.

Eric Casagrande wrote: I forgot to mention one thing. I do not remember if I previously told you about my website. At any rate, I have what I believe is an air-tight timeline, like nothing I have ever discovered before, and I first started this back in 1971.

In regards to the death, resurrection and rapture of our Lord Jesus Christ, it took place after the passing of 4,032 years from the creation of Adam. So now look: 4,032 = 576 (that number) X 7 (completion; perfection) !!!

Also, I have very accurately calculated the birth of David (the royal line through which the Messiah would be born into), at being after the passing of 3,024 years. Now look at this: 3,024 = "4" (Multiple of "8") X "756" (Anagram of "576").

Now look at this: 4,032 (Jesus dies; rises; rapture) + 3,024 (David Born) = 7,056 "7,056" is an anagram of the current year "5760". "756" is a derivative of "7,056" "576" is a derivative of "5,760" "432" is a derivative of "4,032"

Also, by the way, I have never posted this yet, but look at this gematria, made in reference to ISRAEL:

"FIG TREE" = "857" and therefore -- 857 X 7 (completion) = 5,999

I have also discovered that the raptures of both ENOCH and ELIJAH took place after the passing of a multiple of "7" years. Also note that the rapture to heaven of Jesus occurred after the passing of a multiple of 7 years (as noted above 7 X 576). So therefore, since the past year will be the last year (on the corrected calendar) that is a multiple of 7 (857 X 7 = 5999), therefore, the rapture of the Church must take place sometime during the 6,000th year, which we are currently in, and which ends at sunset on Friday, September 29, 2000 (which marks the start of 5761 on the Jewish calendar).

See ya in the air, Eric ---

My reply

I have what I believe is an air-tight timeline

Some of his things do not seem right to me.

the death, resurrection and rapture of our Lord Jesus Christ, it took place after the passing of 4,032 years from the creation of Adam

I think Adam was created in BC 4044, that man's test being mortal and knowing both bad and good started in BC 4004/3, and that the Crucifixion was in 30 AD. 4003 + 30 - 1 (no zero year) = 4032.

birth of David (the royal line through which the Messiah would be born into), at being after the passing of 3,024 years

I think David was born in 3033 AH. I am hoping for the Rapture next Pentecost, but not for his reasons. Agape

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Greetings, I enjoy your WEB site, what is your position on young children and the rapture?

More specifically perhaps, young children of born again believers? Is there any scriptural evidence that that they will be raptured? Until HE comes

My reply

Acts 16:18 says, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." We are not told whether this applies to just that family or not. However, all in the Ark were married. Noah's whole family was present with him. Even the animals went in 2 by 2. That seems significant.

I personally think all under age children of parents that are going in the Rapture will accompany them. How could it be otherwise? Agape

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Good site you have. Personally I think Rapture will be this year unless the Illuminati have thrown us some decoy bones....Thanks and keep up the good work! {i} Re: Iyar 25 or Iyar 26?
Bless you and all that you've done for the majority of us lazy Christians. I truly fail to grasp the maturity of those who profess to know Christ, het write letters which belie any relationship, such as Ben Powell's.

I'll apologize for him even though I know him not. Your page over the past few years have been a bright spot, a blessing in my wait for the "Rapture". It would seem to me that evangelizing takes many forms - your page certainly qualifies.

Truly hope this is that year (but I am reminded that there is a prayer, - "maybe this year in Jerusalem" has been prayed for many, many years). In Him.

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In your Projected Chronology of End-Time Events you state that Iyar 25 is Ascension Day. Yet in your P&C'x you have stated May 31 (Ascension Day) this year is a possibility for Rapture I (tho' I know you favor Pentecost). May 31, however is Iyar 26. I see how you can count 40 days from Nisan 16 and get Iyar 25 or 40 days from Nisan 17 and get Iyar 26. Both can't be correct. Please help me determine which is right. Many thanks! In His love

My reply

All I can do is show you how I figure it as Iyar 26. The Jews now count Nisan 16 as day 1, Iyar 25 as day 40, and Sivan 6 as day 50, Pentecost. They don't list the Feast of Unleavened Bread or of Firstfruits on the Talmudic Calendar at all, only Passover on Nisan 15, the wrong day according to Lev. 23. After reading Josephus and the scriptures, I decided that it seemed most likely that the 50-day countdown started on the day AFTER Firstfruits. If we start with Nisan 17 as day 1, we end up with Iyar 26 being the 40th day and Sivan 7 being Pentecost.

All seven feasts are holy convocations and days of rest (Lev. 23:2,36,37). Therefore, all feasts are sabbaths. Lev. 23:10,11 says, "ye shall bring a sheaf of the FIRSTFRUITS of your harvest unto the priest: And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it." Firstfruits is Nisan 16, the day AFTER Unleavened Bread. Josephus shows that the 14th, 15th and 16th are the 3 feasts, which is correct.

Lev. 23:15,16 says, "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days."

De. 16:9 says, "Seven WEEKS shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks FROM such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn."

The beginning of barley harvest is the sheaf of Firstfruits. In 30 AD, it was on Sunday (Resurrection Day). One week later would be on Sunday. Two weeks later would be on Sunday....Seven weeks later would be on Sunday. This puts Pentecost on Monday, Sivan 7, in 30 AD, and Ascension Day on Fri., Iyar 26. Agape

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Re: Encouraging
Thank you again for such an encouraging web site....

Your study of God's Word is really amazing. I am going through your pro/cons a little at a time. I have just been wondering about the 10 days of tribulation for the believers of Smyrna. Could it be a possible, literal, 10 day period prior to the 1st Rapture? The first believers tarried 10 days prior to the giving of the Holy Spirit. Just a thought. The way things are going it wouldn't surprise me at all. If you have written of this before could you let me know the response by which pro/con or teaching it is in? I am very much humbled and ashamed of the lack of knowledge I have of the scripture. I have read the Bible several times yet never with the indepth that you do. I thank the Lord for you. This is not flattery. Just genuine praise. Please keep sharing. In Never Cry Wolf the THIRD time was the real thing. Sincerely

My reply

Thanks for your encouragement.

The 10 days between Ascension Day and Pentecost fit so well that we can't throw that possibility out. Revelation is written as if the Rapture is "at hand" (1:3; 22:10). Those 10 days could very well be just before the Rapture. Agape

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You say in one article that there are two Raptures? There is only one. There is only one time that there will be a redemption of the body. Israel awaits the Resurrection. That's the way I see it. Thanks

My reply

Here is the way I see it. There are ranks in the first Resurrection. Jesus was the first to be resurrected. He is the head of the Body of Christ that is being born into a new world. Those of the two Raptures are like the two feet of the body. One foot can be born into a new world a bit ahead of the other foot. I Cor. 15:23 says, "as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. BUT every man IN HIS OWN ORDER (tagmati, rank); Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming." Those to arrive in Heaven as the first foot is born are seen in Rev. 5:9. It says, "thou...hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation." Those arriving as the second foot are seen in Rev. 7:9,14,15. It says, "I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne...These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God." Agape

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I never thought I would write to you,I was prompted to , just want to thank you ,for everything you done for me and my family & to introduce myself...again ,thank you & god bless you& y'all!!! best regards

My reply

Thank you for letting me know.

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Re: March 11, 2000
It is once again a time for sharing another experience on March 11, this time I was with my wife and children. I do not know why these continue to occur with me, but I do accept by faith they are from the Lord.

Before I begin, I want to discuss two passages of scripture.

First is Mark 13:28-29. I agree with you Marilyn that the six day war of 1967 was the "putting forth of leaves" The point here is that the fig tree is Israel, some disagree with me, but it does not change my discernment. ISRAEL IS GOD'S TIMEPIECE.

Second is Matthew 14:25. The Spirit discerned much for me in this passage. The fourth watch is the morning watch, the time from 3:00 AM in the morning, until daylight. (Jerusalem time of course). This passage refers to a coming of the Lord, and the sea refers to people. So I discern this as referring to the pre-tribulation rapture in this current age of God's plan. Even though it appears that the EXACT moment of the pre-trib rapture is not to be revealed, it can be "bracketed", as you and I have learned. When I convert the start of the time of the fourth watch in Jerusalem (3:00AM), to pacific daylight savings time, it is 5:00PM PDST (which will be daylight saving time for the pacific time zone in summer 2000). I can not find a reference to Jerusalem going on daylight savings time in the summer, but I could be wrong, someone correct me if I am. My story is not spoiled if I am in error here anyway.

So now listen to what happened on March 11. We were coming back from a day trip, travelling east on the freeway, towards the city where our house is, intending to carry past our exit, to go further east to have dinner at a place we enjoy. All within about five minutes the following happened: (1) A GIANTcloud of water droplets suddenly surrounded our car and for an area a few miles around us. It was NOT raining either BEFORE or AFTER this, just some broken clouds. I have NEVER seen anything like this in my entire life, huge fat water droplets just appearing out of literally nothing! And this was definitely NOT rain, I know what rain looks like living here on the coast! Besides, it was not falling, just sitting there suspended. (2) A huge double rainbow appeared, horizon to horizon, exactly over the hill on which our house is. It really did look like rings of Saturn! You had to see it. We were about four miles or so away from where our house is. (3)It was exactly 4:00PM pacific standard time, which will be exactly 5:00PM pacific daylight savings time this summer!

Here is what is really neat! March 11, 2000 is FORTY days away from Passover 2000, and NINETY days away from Pentecost 2000 (THREEx30 day Hebrew Months). How could this possibly be a random circumstance? Here are three seperate correlations, an exact time of day and two exact dates! And for us to be exactly there at exactly that time for exactly this condition to occur is in my humble opinion impossible without the Lord Jesus Christ intending it to happen that way! I accept this by faith. Now I am sure someone out there would take pleasure in saying "what a pile of self imagined daydreaming". This is not written to that person. This event is shared with my brethren, the true believers, the ones that can see the blessed evidence our loving Heavenly Father reveals to us. I am writing in the Spirit to urge all who walk by faith to stay strong just a short time longer. We will be gathered very soon! Agape

My reply

Wow! and this from the Canadian man upon whom the end of the rainbow shone as he rode in a van. In P & C 392 , you said, "Approximately one year ago, in the spring (was it Mar. 11, 1998?)...myself and the other two people witnessed the Rainbow literally MOVING to chase the van, and speeding DIRECTLY at the door on my side, and coming RIGHT INTO the van and on to me!"

I keep getting goosebumps. When I drove into the inner right end of a double rainbow, we too were traveling east. We ran into it where I would have normally turned. That seemed planned too.

If we count the days from Mar. 11, 2000, making Mar. 12 day one, the 40th day is Nisan 15 (the Feast of Unleavened Bread that the Jews now call Passover), the 80th day is Tue., Iyar 25 (Ascension Day, May 30), and Pentecost is Fri., Sivan 6 (June 9, 2000).

I figured that Pentecost would have been on Sivan 7 in 30 AD the same day Ed and I drove in the end of the rainbow. However, there is always the nagging fact that if there are to be 2300 days (Dan. 8:14) from the Feast of Weeks/Pentecost in 2001 to the Feast of Trumpets in 2007, those days must be counted by Jewish inclusive reckoning and start on Sivan 6. Maybe we are being shown that Sivan 6 is correct. The Jews keep Pentecost on both Sivan 6 and 7.

If Sivan 6 is correct, then Ascension Day would be Iyar 25, May 30, 2000. Here is an oddity. Not only is our son David's birthday on Apr. 6, when I think the Crucifixion and Second Advent fall, but our daughter's birthday is May 29, her son's is May 30 and my brother's is May 31. On Ed's side of the family, his cousin, raised with him as a brother, was born on June 1. Strange things happen. Agape

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