I don't know if you've even had time to look at this message, but I've thought of another question that I'd like to add on. In his book, End Time Events, Charles Capps made the statement that a bride has no authority to use the bridegroom's name until the marriage has taken place. However, we as the body of Christ have been given that authority.
He mentions, also, in John 3:28-29, that John the Baptist describes himself as a "friend of the bridegroom", not as "the bride" or part of the bride. And yet, I see that Eph.5:22-33 is about wives submitting to their own husbands, as to the Lord, and about the husband loving his wife as "Christ also loved the church...that He might present her to Himself a glorious church.... So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself." Verse 32 says, "This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church."
I can see that as the husband and wife are joined, they become one body. And as Christ and His 'wife' are joined, they, too, become one. But again, why does Rev.21 describe the bride as the holy city, the New Jerusalem? Thanks, again!
Blessings to you and Ed. May God supply all your needs richly and abundantly.
I will try to express my question, although sometimes it gets so jumbled up in my mind, I can't find a clear way to say what I mean. The church is the body of Christ -- of that I am sure. Jesus is the Head, and we are His body. How can Jesus marry His own body? If we are the body of Christ, Who is male, are we not also male? In Revelation 21:2,9-10, it plainly says that the bride (the woman) is "the great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God." How could Jesus marry a physical city? Rev. 21 goes on to describe the beautiful city, and I probably don't understand the metaphors and it is describing how perfect the bride is, but I can't seem to make the connection.
In Rev. 19:6-9, which is describing the Marriage and the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, it states that the wife (already married) has "made herself ready" (she WORKED to prepare herself for the groom) and her works allowed her to "be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright". A city cannot 'work'. I believe that when the righteous in Christ (His church, His body) are invited to the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, the wedding has already taken place.
So how could Christ get married without His whole body there? Who is Jesus marrying? (THIS PART I HAVE JUST NOW ADDED: And who are the ones invited to the Marriage Supper of the Lamb - the 'guests' if you will. I KNOW that they are not un-saved people. They are saved or they wouldn't be in heaven.)
Galatians 3:28 states that "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus", so I realize that both men and women are the 'body' of Christ. But a 'body' must be joined together with another 'body' to become 'one flesh'. So who is that 'other body'? I know you have written of this over and over, but I can't seem to grasp this. People say "Why are you worrying about this?" and "You should be studying how to live so that your good works will be approved by God". I realize that, but this subject of the coming of our Lord Jesus -- and (I hope)the coming of our 'Husband'-- has intrigued me for years; it is exciting to try to find the pieces to this puzzle. I love the OT, and see how important it is to understand its relationship to the NT, and sometimes this study consumes my waking hours (and even the night-hours also).
I realize you are not perfect, but you have studied much longer that I have, and I truly respect your knowledge of God's word, and your grasp of the whole picture. Could you please, one more time, explain, to the best of your understanding/knowledge, just WHO is the Bride of Christ Thank you SO much.
The Bride seems to be the firstfruits, the cream of the crop. There are ranks in the First Resurrection (I Cor. 15:23). Christ, THE firstfruit (the all important "SEED" in the sheaf offered at the Feast of Firstfruits), next the rest of that sheaf (those who came out of their graves on Resurrection Day in 30 AD, Mt. 27:52), after that, the wise Philadelphian virgins, later still, the 144,000 Israelites ("for they are virgins...without fault, Rev. 14:1-5).
New Jerusalem is the home of the Bride. Rev. 3:12 says, "I will write upon him (the Philadelphian to be caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture) the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem."
> again, why does Rev.21 describe the bride as the holy city, the New Jerusalem?
Because she lives there. Christ also calls himself the bright and morning star because he lives there. In Rev. 22:16, he said, "I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." Yet Rev. 2:28 says to the overcomers, "I will give him the morning star." This doesn't mean Christ, for the overcomer already has Christ. I think it means Heaven, where Christ lives. After the Rapture, wherever he is, we will be there also (Jn. 14:3).
Who is in New Jerusalem? All the saints whose home is a heavenly one. The "twelve apostles of the Lamb" are there (Rev. 21:14). The patriarchs of the "twelve tribes of the children of Israel" are there (Rev. 21:12). Members of the Bride are there. The "throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him" (Rev. 22:3).
> Jesus is the Head, and we are His body. How can Jesus marry His own body? If we are
> the body of Christ, Who is male, are we not also male?
A group of persons is called a body in our language. Perhaps you have heard of a governing body. The Body of Christ is a spiritual body made up of a group of persons. Each of us is connected to the Head by the Spirit of Christ that dwells in us. Gal. 3:28 says, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.".
> How could Jesus marry a physical city?
By marrying people who are chosen to live in this special place.
> A city cannot 'work'.
The people in it can work. A city would be nothing but a ghost town without its people. A city made up of people can enlarge its borders. It can build roads, lay pipes and wires. A city without people cannot do that.
The righteousnesses of the Bride encompasses both the righteousness of Christ that is imputed to them when they accept Christ and their righteous deeds afterward.
> how could Christ get married without His whole body there?
I think they will be there.
> Who is Jesus marrying?
Those that are called, and chosen, and faithful. Rom. 8:14-17 says, "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ."
> who are the ones invited to the Marriage Supper of the Lamb
All saints should be there, the Bride, the friends of the Bride and the friends of the groom.
> a 'body' must be joined together with another 'body' to become > 'one flesh'. So who is that 'other body'?
We become one with Christ because the Spirit of Christ dwells in us.
> one more time, explain, to the best of > your understanding/knowledge, just WHO is the Bride of Christ?
I think the wise virgins are the Bride of Christ. They have enough oil of the Holy Spirit to be caught up when the Bridegroom comes. The Bride must be "called, and chosen, and faithful" (Rev. 17:14). Agape
The next in the series of three equidistant massings of the above mentioned planets will occur on April 11, and the third on April 19/20 (Passover).
March 21-26 -- The Pope's pilgrimage to the Holy Land and to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
03/09/00 05:11 PM Double rainbow out side! Check it out!
03/09/00 05:22 PM All gone... sigh. Sure was pretty.
As the Tribulation begins in chapter 13, all 10 kings are crowned. Therefore, there is a gap between the two events. At the Rapture, the 10 divisions of this world that have already been decided on, still have no elected leaders. At the beginning of the Tribulation, authority is given the Beast over the World Church and Federation of the World. The 10 subsidiary kings also receive their crowns.
> People at churches I talk to clearly do not share my beliefs in Jesus return.
Don't let it worry you, and don't give up speaking about it when the subject comes up. The Pharisees didn't believe Jesus either. We have plenty of Pharisee types around. However, praise the Lord, they are not all like that. Some are really searching the word daily to see if these things are so. They are asking questions. They are more than interested. They are actively studying and seeking the Lord's guidance in every detail.
There are plenty of Laodicean types too. People are basically no different today than back in 30 AD. Some did not believe, but some did. Ask the Lord to guide you and show you who to talk to that will delve into the scriptures to try to prove or disprove it. If they can see it in Scripture, they are more apt to believe it than coming out of your mouth. Just try to get them to keep an open mind about it as they read Scripture.
The Lord warned the churches, "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt NOT KNOW what hour I will come upon thee" (Rev. 3:3). What will we know if we do watch? Turn it around. It would then say that if therefore thou shalt watch, I will not come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt KNOW what hour I will come upon thee. Try that one on a few and see what kind of answers they come up with.
If they say no man knows. Tell them that knows (or knoweth) is present tense. No man knew on that day. Jesus didn't say that no man would ever know. Noah knew 120 years before the Flood. He also knew more precisely 7 days before the rain began. That 7 days was so he could load the Ark. Raise the question, will we get a 7-day warning. Jesus told us to watch. What are we watching for? Israel back in the land was one thing that should alert us that the end times are near. The Sign of the End of the Age in 1967 was a big alert. Israel grew leaves (Sinai, West Bank, Gaza Strip and Golan Heights) in that war. She was 19 years old. That year, 1967, was the last year that the fig tree (Israel) could be considered young. The word translated tender in Mt. 24:32 is apalos, young. Only those under 20 were considered young at the Exodus. We are in the end times. Just the fact that the Final Status Peace Agreement is slated to be signed Sept. 13, 2000 should show anyone that knows their Bible that we are in the end times. Agape
The word translated keep in 1:3 is tereo, guard from loss. The same word is used in 3:10, "Because thou hast KEPT the word of my patience, I also will KEEP thee from the hour of temptation" (the Tribulation trial that is to come upon all the Earth).
Rev. 22:14 says, "Blessed are they that DO his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may ENTER in through the gates into the city."
If he says to repent, we need to repent. If he says, "Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die," we should do that.
I just can't buy the idea that an ordinary conjunction of planets was the Star of Bethlehem. That star guided the wise men to the very house where Jesus was. I think it was supernatural.
The grand lineup of the Sun and planets that the candlestick represented (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn), plus the Moon and 5 comets will be an unusual occurrence. However, we will not be able to see it because the Sun's brightness will blank out the rest. We will be on the opposite side of the Sun from the other planets. Agape
Fifty days from an Easter date on 3/19/2000 brings us to Pentecost on or about May 5th which also happens to be the day of the so-called "Planetary Alignment" that all of the New-Agers are getting excited about. Just type in 5/5/2000 on any search engine and do your own research about this phenomenon.
If the Rapture were to happen on May 5th of this year, the whole world would be ready to buy into New Age philosophy and this might usher in the revealing of the Anti-christ.
Israel grew leaves (Sinai, West Bank, Golan Heights, Gaza Strip) in the Six-Day War and fulfilled the fig tree parable of Mt. 24:32-34. There is only one generation from then to the catastrophe on the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord (1967 + 40 = 2007).
That period ends on a feast day. Mal. 2:3 says, "your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it." We know from Joel 2:1-3, and other passages, that it is the Feast of Trumpets. The Feast of Trumpets in 2007 is Sept. 13.
From Nisan 9 in 30 AD (Palm Sunday, when Jerusalem and that generation's fate was sealed) to AV 10 (when Jerusalem was burned) in 70 AD was 40 years plus the 120 days from Nisan 9 to Av 10.
In our days, from June 7, 1967 (Iyar 28, when Israel took the rest of Jerusalem) to Tishri 1 in 2007 (the day of catastrophe for this generation) is 40 years plus the 120 days from Iyar 28 to Tishri 1. Things keep adding up.
The Pope's meetings with other faiths just shows us how close we are to the Tribulation when all faiths will be under the Tribulation Pope's rule.
James, half-brother of Jesus, gave us a good clue. In Jas. 5:7, he said, "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain." The word used for the early rain is proimon, which means autumnal showering. Opsimon is used for the latter rain and means spring showering.
In De. 11:14, God said, "I will give you the rain of your land IN HIS DUE SEASON, the first rain (Tishri 1) and the latter rain (Nisan 1). In Israel, the rainy season starts with Tishri and ends with Nisan. From then till the following Tishri, it is dry. In the fall, wheat is planted as soon as the rains soften the ground. This wheat is harvested the following spring.
Jer. 5:24 says, "Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, IN HIS SEASON." The Hebrew word used for the former rain is yowreh, which means autumnal sprinkling rain. Malqowsh is the word for the latter rain. It means gathered spring rain. Both rains are to come in "his season."
Hos. 6:3 says, "...the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and HE SHALL COME UNTO US AS THE RAIN, AS THE LATTER AND FORMER RAIN UNTO THE EARTH."
Joel 2:23 says, "rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will CAUSE TO COME DOWN FOR YOU THE RAIN, THE FORMER RAIN, AND THE LATTER RAIN IN THE FIRST MONTH." In the Bible, unless a day number is mentioned, we are to assume the first day of the month for the word for month also means new moon.
Eze. 29:17 sets the day of the Second Advent, "in the first month, in the first day of the month." Then verse 21 says, "In that day (Nisan 1) will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD."
We know that Ezekiel went by the Sacred Calendar. Eze. 45:18,21 says, "In the first month, in the first day of the month...In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover" (Nisan 14). Agape
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