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Posted 3-27-00

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Thanks Marilyn for your prompt reply.
I really enjoy reading your views, even if I dont always agree. Here is a site with some great Messianic Teachings on the Festivals of the Messiah... let me know what you think.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2175/chap2.html#CHAP2

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In this Overview of the Festivals, from his book, The Seven Festivals of the Messiah, Eddie Chumney said,
The Passover Lamb was slain on the fourteenth of Nisan and the people left Egypt (Mitzrayim) before midnight in the evening of the fifteenth after the death angel struck the firstborn of Egypt....

Fifty Days From the Red Sea: Shavuot (Pentecost)

From the crossing of the Red Sea (Nisan 17) to the day Moses (Moshe) met G-d on Mount Sinai were 47 days. For 47 days the children of Israel traveled through the wildemess before they came to Mount Sinai on the third day of the third month (Sivan) (Exodus [Shemot] 19:1). G-d instructed the people through Moses (Moshe) to sanctify themselves before He visited them three days later on Mount Sinai, which would be the sixth day of the third month of Sivan (Exodus [Shemot] 19:10-11). This day would be the fiftieth day following the crossing of the Red Sea; it came to be known as the revelation of G-d at Mount Sinai. This day being the fiftieth day from the crossing of the Red Sea on Nisan 17 would be the Feast of Weeks (Shavuot), or Pentecost.

Therefore, from the Exodus story, we can see that the Lamb was slain on the fourteenth of Nisan, the day of Passover (Pesach). On the fifteenth of Nisan, the day of Unleavened Bread (Hag HaMatzah), the people left Egypt; on the seventeenth of Nisan the children of Israel crossed the Red Sea; and 50 days later on the Feast of Weeks (Shavuot), or Pentecost, G-d gave the Torah (instruction) on Mount Sinai. In the following chapters, we will see how Yeshua (Jesus) died on Passover (Pesach) (Nisan 14), was in the sepulcher on the day of Unleavened Bread (Hag HaMatzah) (Nisan 15), and was resurrected on the day of First Fruits (Bikkurim) (Nisan 17), and the Holy Spirit empowered the believers 50 days following Yeshua's (Jesus) resurrection on the day of Pentecost (Shavuot). We will also discover what these feasts mean to the individual believer and how they relate to our personal relationship with G-d....

The biblical name for Rosh HaShanah is Yom Teruah, which means "the day of the awakening blast." Non-Jews call this the Feast of Trumpets. It is observed on the seventh month (Tishrei) and the first day of the month (Leviticus [Vayikra] 23:23-24). G-d gave us this day to teach us about the resurrection of the dead, the coronation of the Messiah, the wedding of the Messiah, and much more. This day is both the Jewish New Year and the beginning of a period of soul-searching known as the High Holy Days, culminating on Yom Kippur. Therefore, the last 10 days of the 40-day period of Teshuvah, beginning on Elul 1, is also called the High Holy Days....
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I enjoy reading what Eddie writes. We disagree on a few things, but do so agreeably. Here are some places where we disagree:

> > The Passover Lamb was slain on the fourteenth of Nisan and the people left Egypt (Mitzrayim) before midnight in the evening of the fifteenth after the death angel struck the firstborn of Egypt....

I think they killed the lamb between the evenings (3 - 5 PM) on the 13th to have time to roast it and eat it after 6 PM as the 14th began. I believe that they were forced to start leaving Egypt in great haste after the death of Egypt's firstborn at midnight on Nisan 14. They were to be clothed and have their shoes on, and they had no time to leaven their dough.

Jewish days start at 6 PM. Night comes first. Midnight on the 14th is 6 hours later, before the 12 hours of day belonging to the 14th arrive.

Ex. 12:29-43 says, "And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt...And Pharaoh rose up IN THE NIGHT...And he called for Moses and Aaron BY NIGHT, and said, RISE UP, AND GET YOU FORTH from among my people...And the Egyptians were urgent upon the people, that they might send them out of the land IN HASTE; for they said, We be all dead men. And the people took their dough before it was leavened...and they borrowed of the Egyptians jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment...And the children of Israel JOURNEYED from Rameses to Succoth...they were thrust out of Egypt, and COULD NOT TARRY, neither had they prepared for themselves any victual...And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that ALL THE HOSTS OF THE LORD WENT OUT FROM THE LAND OF EGYPT. It is a NIGHT to be much observed unto the LORD for BRINGING THEM OUT FROM THE LAND OF EGYPT: this is THAT NIGHT of the LORD to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations. And the LORD said unto Moses and Aaron, This is the ordinance of the PASSOVER."

The following 12 hours of day belonging to the 14th were still to come. They started in the night and still traveled in the day of Nisan 14.

> > Yeshua (Jesus) died on Passover (Pesach) (Nisan 14), was in the sepulcher on the day of Unleavened Bread (Hag HaMatzah) (Nisan 15), and was resurrected on the day of First Fruits (Bikkurim) (Nisan 17)

I think Yahshua/Yeshua/Jesus died as they were killing the lambs about 3:00 PM on Thu.., Nisan 13, was in the tomb Fri., Nisan 14, Sat., Nisan 15, and was resurrected on Sun., Nisan 16. The 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth (Mt. 12:40) were Thu., day; Fri., night then day; Sat., night then day; and Sun., night. The 3rd day "since" of Lu. 24:7 is Fri., Sat., and Sun. The sabbaths of Mt. 28:1. in the Greek, are Fri., Nisan 14, Passover; and Sat., Nisan 15, Feast of Unleavened Bread.

The 50th day after the resurrection on Sunday, Nisan 16, puts Pentecost on Mon., Sivan 7. Seven weeks were to be complete (Lev. 23:15). The resurrection was on Sunday. We count from there 7 Sundays. Then the 50th day was on Monday.

Here is Eddie Chumley's chart:

----FEAST-------------MESSIANIC FULFILLMENT
1. Passover-------------Death of Yeshua on the tree
(Pesach)

2. Unleavened Bread---The Burial of Yeshua
(Hag HaMatzah)

3. First Fruits-----------Resurrection of Yeshua
(Bikkurim)

4. Pentecost------------Pouring out of the Holy Spirit (Ruach HaKodesh)
(Shavuot)-----------------on Shavuot (Acts 2)

5. Rosh HaShanah------The Resurrection of the Dead /
(Yom Teruah)------------Rapture (Natzal) of believers

6. Day of Atonement---The Day of Messiah's Second Coming (Zech 14:4)
(Yom Kippur)

7. Tabernacles----------The Messianic Era/Millennium
(Sukkot)----------------(Athid Lavo)
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I think there will be a Pre-Trib Rapture for the Bride of Christ, also that there will be a Pre-Wrath Rapture on Tishri 1, Yom Teruah, the day of the awakening blast. That will be the last rank in the First Resurrection.

I disagree that Tishri 10, Day of Atonement is the day of the Second Advent. I think it will be 7 months later (Eze. 39:12) on Nisan 1, 5768 (a leap year) (Apr. 6, 2008), the first day of the Jewish Regnal Year and Sacred Year. Hos. 6:3 shows that it will be as the latter rain, which starts Nisan 1. Eze. 29:17 sets the day, "in the first month, in the first day of the month." Then v. 21 says, "In that day (Nisan 1) will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD (YHVH)." I think the Second Advent will be on the anniversary of the Crucifixion on our calendar, Apr. 6, 30 AD.

Christ is the "redeemer the LORD (YHVH) of hosts." Isa. 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHVH) the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD (YHVH) of hosts; I am the first (YHVH, king of Israel), and I am the last (YHVH of hosts); and beside me there is no God."

> > The biblical name for Rosh HaShanah is Yom Teruah, which means "the day of the awakening blast." Non-Jews call this the Feast of Trumpets. It is observed on the seventh month (Tishrei) and the first day of the month (Leviticus [Vayikra] 23:23-24). G-d gave us this day to teach us about the resurrection of the dead, the coronation of the Messiah, the wedding of the Messiah, and much more.

Here, we are in close agreement. I think there is a Rapture on this day, the last rank in the First Resurrection. I think it is Christ's Coronation Day in Heaven, and the day of the Marriage of the Lamb in Heaven. Agape

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From Jim Bramlett:
The other day a well-meaning fellow sent a message out on the Internet critical of date setters. I wholeheartedly agree. Date-setting is a detestable practice, and those who practice such should be banned from the Internet, castigated and shunned by believers everywhere!

The only problem is that I do not know of any date setters! All reasonable people admit that only God can set dates. No human can do so. The best anyone can do is try to discover what God chooses to reveal about His "appointed times," or close to it. There have been numerous attempts at that, seemingly unsuccessful so far but the jury is still out on speculation about the beginning of the final seven years. Also, it does not logically follow that past failures guarantee future failure, if the seeker is on solid scriptural ground (see below). This is demonstrated by Thomas Edison's repeated errors before finally discovering the light bulb.

Everyone I am familiar with did not set a date but merely said that such was what they thought MAY happen according to their understanding. Based on the information below, that is certainly a legitimate and scriptural endeavor, humble and honest. And they may not have been far off in their understandings. Many testify that their alerting has awakened them and been a great blessing.

In most Christian circles today, in discussing end-time events, just the question "when?" causes some Christians to scoff and criticize. They quickly point out that Jesus said, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man" (Matthew 24:36 KJV). They may also mention Paul's words that the day of the Lord will come like "a thief in the night" (1 Thessalonians 5:2). But most believers have so misunderstood these verses that they are oblivious to the times, not watching for the Lord as He commanded, and are often absorbed by the cares of this world and their own agendas, a major tragedy of the modern church.

As to Matthew 24:36, some scholars point out that Jesus' words here are in the present tense, addressed to His hearers at the time, and not to those alive at the end of the age when Israel would be regathered and Daniel's vision unsealed (Daniel 12:9). This would be similar to Matthew 16:20: "Then he warned His disciples not to tell anyone that He was the Christ"(NIV). As evidence, many other Scriptures reveal to us that God will reveal at least the approximate time. If the "day and hour" restriction is literally valid today, it may be because the earth is in 24 time zones and always in two different days. Also, the modern Jewish calendar is claimed to be inaccurate, possibly corrupted from the days of the Babylonian captivity, and the Gregorian calendar is also probably inaccurate.

Here are some thoughts:

1. It is clear that Jesus will not come as a "thief in the night" for watchful believers, because in the very same passage, verse 4, Paul tells us, "But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this DAY should surprise YOU like a thief." If we are trusting in Christ and looking for His coming, Paul said that even the very DAY does not have to surprise us! In fact, Jesus exhorted, "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief" (Revelation 3:3, KJV), saying He will come as a thief ONLY TO THOSE NOT WATCHING!

2. Jesus rebuked those who did not understand the signs of the times in His day: "O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky, but can ye not discern the signs of the times" (Matthew 16:3).

3. Of the end of the age, Jesus said, "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh"(Luke 21:28). He said we would know when it is near!

4. God said, "Surely the sovereign Lord does NOTHING without REVEALING it to His servants the prophets" (Amos 3:7, NIV). God said "nothing," and He did not exclude Christ's return. I take Him at His word.

5. God not only knows the end from the beginning, He tells us that He makes it known! "I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come." (Isaiah 46:10). He has already made it known! I personally believe it has been hidden in His Word all along, to be unlocked in His timing to whom he chooses.

6. God said, "I have even from the beginning declared it to thee; before it came to pass I shewed it thee" (Isaiah 48:5, KJV).

7. Jesus said the Holy Spirit "will teach you ALL things" (John 14:26). He said "all things." Did Jesus make a mistake, forgetting to exclude when He will return? I don't think so.

There are other such passages. God clearly promised that we would know at least approximately when Christ will return, and even "the day" will not surprise us, as the Holy Spirit reveals through Paul!

In addition, there is ample precedent for God revealing specific times in advance. (1) He gave Noah notice of when the flood would be (Genesis 6,7). (2) He told Abraham how long the Israelites would be in Egypt (Genesis 15:13). (3) He revealed to many the very day of Elijah's rapture (2 Kings 2). (4) He told Jeremiah how long the Babylonian exile would be (Jeremiah 29:10). (5) He told Daniel exactly when Messiah would come the first time (Daniel 9:25-26). (6) Some, including the brilliant Sir Isaac Newton, believe this same passage holds the key to the timing of His return (see below). (7) There is evidence that the Bible reveals the exact number of years of "the times of the Gentiles" and the exact span of time to Israel's rebirth in 1948 and the recapture of Jerusalem in 1967.

Leaving us clueless now would violate God's own established pattern!

Finally, faulty speculation before the latter part of the 20th century was doomed to failure because a major biblical clue was tragically ignored -- that is, end-time events could not occur until Israel was regathered and back in the land. Such failure was no doubt due at least in part to the error of replacement theology and anti-Semitism. Now, we not only have a reestablished Israel as of 1948 but as of 1967 she is now in control of Jerusalem again. Further, we have the end of the six millennial days since Adam and two millennial days since Jesus' birth, all of which places us in a historically unique time frame of convergences. There are numerous other signs.

I join in the condemnation of date setters, if they exist, who might dare usurp the role of the Almighty Himself. However, I salute those noble, diligent souls who "watch," study and labor to unlock the secrets of His timing that God has promised to reveal, at least approximately, and, like Patrick Henry (paraphrasing), to declare to those in villages and cities around the world that "Jesus is coming!" I am persuaded that such seeking and bold proclamation please Him.

ONE MAN AWAKE
One man awake awakens another.
The second awakens his next-door neighbor.
And three awake can rouse the town,
And turn the whole place upside down.
And many awake can raise such a fuss
That it finally awakens the rest of us.
One man up with dawn in his eyes, multiplies.
(Author unknown. From Bob Schlenker's Christian Research Ministries

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Recieved from Robin, one of our daughters. God works in mysterious ways.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Family] Fw: Air Alaska's Final Minutes
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:25:43 -0600
To: "ChristianTestimonies.com"

Some of you may know that my daughter, Robynn, just graduated from flight attendant school with Alaska Airlines. God certainly does have His way of making sure people hear the gospel. Aren't you glad? Outta here. jp

We probably wouldn't hear this over the secular media! If it is true - WOW!!

John Hernandez (a friend of ours at church) recently shared a testimony that is so remarkable, and credible, that we feel compelled to share it with a wider audience.

John related that last week he talked with an Alaska Airlines pilot who is involved in the investigation of the horrific crash of Alaska Flight 261. The pilot has listened to the cockpit voice recorder from the downed plane and he reported that for the last 9 minutes of the flight, the wife of the pastor from Monroe, Washington can be heard sharing the Gospel with the passengers over the planes intercom system. Just before the final dive into the Pacific Ocean, she can be heard leading the sinners prayer for salvation.

The pilot also told John that the flight data recorder from the plane indicates that there is no good explanation for how the plane was able to stay in the air for those final 9 minutes. But it did stay in the air until the pastors wife had a chance to share the Gospel with the very attentive passengers and presumably lead many to salvation in Christ.

So, in the midst of this tragedy, nearly 90 people had an extraordinary opportunity to get right with their Maker just prior to meeting Him.
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Looking forward to worshiping with you around The Throne in just a few weeks. Hallelujah! :) MARANATHA!

My reply

Thanks for sharing this with us. Ed and I both were teary-eyed. Agape

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I trust that ALL is well with you and yours. It will be a year this coming May that I first came across your website as I was searching for sites that had Bible based views on "Prophecy and End Time Events." I have been greatly blessed in seeing scriptures come alive with a fresh understanding, and "That we are living in the last generation that will see ALL fulfilled".

I thank GOD for leading me to your website and teaching me SOME MORE OF HIS TRUTHS through the HOLY SPIRIT.

Exod 12:3.TAKE to them EVERY MAN A LAMB, according to the house of their fathers, A LAMB FOR AN HOUSE: verse 4.And IF THE HOUSEHOLD BE TOO LITTLE FOR THE LAMB, LET HIM AND HIS NEIGHBOUR next unto his house TAKE IT (i.e. SHARE IT) ACCORDING TO THE NUMBER of the souls; every man ACCORDING TO HIS EATING shall make your COUNT FOR THE LAMB.

MARILYN...I AM GLAD THAT YOUR LAMB (JESUS) IS TOO BIG FOR YOUR HOUSEHOLD. THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR HOUSEHOLDíS LAMB WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR (i.e. ALL KINDREDS, NATIONS, TOUGUES, AND PEOPLE).

Until seeing your website and allowing the Holy Spirit to open afresh THE WORD, I had always been taught from a very early age (now in my 50s) that there would be ONE RAPTURE at which I firmly believed to be PRE TRIB. Reading books from various Christian authors and trying to interpret the Bible from their prospective led me to believe that it was NOT for us as BELIEVERS to KNOW THE DAY NOR THE HOUR. If we tried to pursue this way of thinking, it would only lead into FALSE DOCTRINE and CONFUSION.

After searching the scriptures, I now SEE WITH UNDERSTANDING - Pre-Trib (Rapture of Bride), Mid-Trib (Rapture of Two Witnesses), Pre-Wrath (Rapture of ALL Body of Christ), and Post-Trib / Post-Wrath (Second Advent / Second Coming).

You noted in P&C 470ÖÖ.I am Pre-Trib and Pre-Wrath. There are two Raptures. The first group is "out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation." They are seen in Heaven in Rev. 5:9. The second group is the "great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues" that "came out of great tribulation" in Rev. 7:9,14).

I agree with the RANKS OF RAPTURE that you have placed on the two groups. Please note the scripture in relation to the first group (PRE-TRIB) which states "OUT OF EVERY KINDRED " (i.e. Wise Virgins or Philadelphians, OUT OF the Body of Christ) , whereas, the scripture in relation to the second group (Pre-Wrath) states "OF ALL NATIONS and KINDREDS" (i.e. Foolish Virgins or Laodicians including ALL Believers, that "CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION."

PRE-TRIB?? - 1 Pet 2:9

But ye are a CHOSEN GENERATION ( i.e. BEGINNING JUNE 7, 1967, SIX DAY WAR), a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye (BRIDE) should shew forth the praises of him who hath CALLED YOU (i.e. PHILADELPHIANS) OUT OF DARKNESS (i.e. BEFORE TRIBULATION) into his marvellous light (i.e. HEAVEN):

PRE-WRATH?? - 2 Pet 2:9

The Lord knoweth how to deliver (PRESERVE) the GODLY ( i.e. LAODICIANS) OUT OF TEMPTATIONS ( i.e. BEFORE WRATH) , and to reserve the UNJUST (i.e. NON BELIEVERS) unto the DAY OF JUDGMENT (i.e. FIRST MILLENIAL DAY) to be PUNISHED (i.e. WRATH OF GOD):

I am especially excited about the strong possibility that Our Lord May Return for HIS BRIDE this coming ASCENSION DAY or perhaps on PENTECOST 2000.

I WILL BEGIN WITH A QUESTION, AFTER MAKING SOME COMMENTS---You were so sure that THE RAPTURE would be in 1998. When 1998 passed, then you were even more sure that 1999 would be the year of the RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE. I can understand how some pieces of the APPOINTED TIME did not fit which has led to PENTECOST 2000 as the TIME TO LEAVE.

NOW FOR THE BIG QUESTION, HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF ANYTHING THAT MAY BE MISSING AND PERHAPS POSTPONE THE RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE TO HEAVEN ON PENTECOST 2000?? I cannot think of anything missing that would hinder OUR LORDís RETURN FOR HIS BRIDE THIS PENTECOST.

The WORD tells us: I Jn 3:14

PRE TRIB?? We (Bride) know (Rapture Revealed) that we have PASSED (i.e.Blessed Hope) FROM DEATH (i.e. before Tribulation) UNTO LIFE (Heaven) , because we LOVE (Agape) THE BRETHREN (i.e. Body of Christ).

PRE WRATH?? He (i.e. Laodiceans) that LOVETH NOT his BROTHER (Body of Christ) ABIDETH (i.e. remains ) in DEATH (i.e. Great Tribulation).

What is the correlation between "even at the DOORS" (plural) in Matthew 24:33 and "TIMES (plural) of the Gentiles" in Luke 21:24?????

PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK! In Christ Jesus

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Thanks for your kind words.

> > Please note the scripture in relation to the first group (PRE-TRIB) which states "OUT OF EVERY KINDRED " (i.e. Wise Virgins or Philadelphians, OUT OF the Body of Christ) , whereas, the scripture in relation to the second group (Pre-Wrath) states "OF ALL NATIONS and KINDREDS" (i.e. Foolish Virgins or Laodicians including ALL Believers, that "CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION."

I was elated to think I was going to learn something, but when I looked up the Greek, the difference evaporated. I'm quoting from Green's Interlinear. Rev. 5:9 says, "You were slain and have purchased us to God by Your blood, OUT OF (ek, Strong's: a prim. prep. denoting origin [the point whence motion or action proceeds], from, out of) every tribe and tongue and people and nation."

Rev. 7:9,14 (Green's) says, "And no one was able to count it--OUT OF (ek) every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues...These are the ones who come OUT OF (ek) the great tribulation." I Pet. 2:9 says, "Him who called you OUT OF (ek) darkness into His wonderful light." II Pet. 2:9 says, "The Lord knows how to deliver the godly OUT OF (ek) temptation and to keep the unjust to a day of judgment to be punished." Rev. 3:10 says, "I also will keep you OUT OF (ek) the hour of trial which is about to come on the whole world to try those who live on the earth."

> > PRE-TRIB?? - 1 Pet 2:9 > > But ye are a CHOSEN GENERATION ( i.e. BEGINNING JUNE 7, 1967, SIX DAY WAR), a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye (BRIDE) should shew forth the praises of him who hath CALLED YOU (i.e. PHILADELPHIANS) OUT OF DARKNESS (i.e. BEFORE TRIBULATION) into his marvellous light (i.e. HEAVEN):

I agree, "we are NOT of the night, nor of DARKNESS" (I Thess. 5:5).

> > PRE-WRATH?? - 2 Pet 2:9

> > The Lord knoweth how to deliver (PRESERVE) the GODLY ( i.e. LAODICIANS) OUT OF TEMPTATIONS ( i.e. BEFORE WRATH) , and to reserve the UNJUST (i.e. NON BELIEVERS) unto the DAY OF JUDGMENT (i.e. FIRST MILLENIAL DAY) to be PUNISHED (i.e. WRATH OF GOD):

I think this might be a bit different. "The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly (wise Philadelphian virgins) out of temptations (the trial that is to come upon all the Earth during the Tribulation), and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment (first day of the Millennium) to be punished."

> > NOW FOR THE BIG QUESTION. HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF ANYTHING THAT MAY BE MISSING AND PERHAPS POSTPONE THE RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE TO HEAVEN ON PENTECOST 2000? I cannot think of anything missing that would hinder OUR LORDís RETURN FOR HIS BRIDE THIS PENTECOST.

No. It seems to me that we are running out of time.

> > The WORD tells us: I Jn 3:14

> > PRE TRIB?? We (Bride) know (Rapture Revealed) that we have PASSED (i.e.Blessed Hope) FROM DEATH (i.e. before Tribulation) UNTO LIFE (Heaven) , because we LOVE (Agape) THE BRETHREN (i.e. Body of Christ).

I'd say that passing from death unto life is talking about Salvation. When we are saved, Christ baptizes us with his Holy Spirit. Then, because one of his attributes is agape love, we too have agape love and are bound together with other believers into the Body of Christ by the Holy Spirit and his agape love.

> > What is the correlation between "even at the DOORS" (plural) in Matthew 24:33 and "TIMES (plural) of the Gentiles" in Luke 21:24?

Door is a symbol of the Rapture, Rev. 3:8; 4:1. There are two Raptures, hence two doors. A "time" is a year (Rev. 12:6:14). Therefore, times are years. Agape

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Subject: Confirmation of Final Status Peace Treaty. I assume the Israel Knesset will vote on the treaty that Barak and Arafat (and others?) may sign later this year. Do you assume that the Knesset will have approved such a deal by Sept 13, 2000, or only that the leaders will have signed the agreement by that date?

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My guess is that it will be signed Sept. 13, 2000, but ratified later by the Knesset. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it turned out to be ratified on Tishri 1 (Sept. 30, 2000). The Oslo Accords were signed on Sept. 13, 1993 and ratified 3 days later, on Tishri 1, 5754....Agape

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