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Posted 4-24-00

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You may find this article of interest:
New Object, By John Maynard and Jamie Stensrud, April 24, 2000
...XTE J1118+480 appeared seemingly out of nowhere on March 29th this year...When describing this new object, Robotic Optical Transient Search Experiment scientist Jim Wren of Los Alamos Laboratories and Ron Remillard of MIT have described it as "a mystery", "a beast" and as "a slow moving searchlight." These unique comments set this discovery apart from other routine discoveries of new objects. Consequently, this particular discovery stands out like a red flag, simply because it has left astronomers in a baffled state....

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Thanks. A visit to this site show exactly where in the Big Dipper constellation this light is located. If you draw lines along the outer stars in the Dipper, they will come together at just about the right spot. It is above LEO and very close to LEO MINOR. It appeared on Ed's birthday.

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Re: requestings
Barukh HaShem! Frist of all, Thanks to HaShem & You. For HaShem let me find your good site.

I'm a korean Messianic-Jewish, I'm very interest about The Bible Chronlogy. Specially I want to know The Times of Prophecy.

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May HaShem bless Your Workings. Shalom to All of You. Amen & Selah. Sincerely Yours, BenAdam-Lee

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In Acts, 1:7,8, Yahshua/Jesus told the apostles, "It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you" Ten days later, on Pentecost, they recieved the POWER to figure out the times and seasons. However, it was not possible until the Sign of the End of the Age appeared. That is why Yahshua told us so many times to watch.

In Mt. 24:32-34, Yahshua answered the disciples' question about what would be the "SIGN" of his coming and the end of the age (v. 3) with the parable of the fig tree. He said, " Now learn a parable of the fig tree (Israel, Joel 1:6,7; Hos. 9:10; Eze. 36:8; Jer. 24:5,6); When his branch (klados, scion broken off for grafting into an old rootstock, i.e., modern Israel) is yet tender (apalos, young, i.e., no more than 19, as when they came out of Egypt, Nu. 1:3 ), and putteth forth leaves (Sinai, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, West Bank, in the Six-Day War of 1967, when she was 19), ye know that summer is nigh (the war was June 5-10; summer was June 21): So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it (the Rapture) is near, even at the doors (symbol of the 2 raptures, Rev. 3:8, one Pre-Trib, the other Pre-Wrath). Verily (Amen, so be it) I say unto you, This generation (40 years, as in Mt. 23:36, which was 30 to 70 AD) shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

Forty years from 1967 is 2007, the end of this age and the beginning of the millennial Day of the Lord. I think the first day of the Millennium is on Tishri 1, 5768 (Sept. 13, 2007), the Feast of Trumpets. That is the day of God's Wrath (Joel 2:1-3; Mal. 2:3). We know that the shortened Tribulation/Seventieth Week of Daniel lasts 2300 days (Dan. 8:14). This is both the time when the Jews can sacrifice and the time when they can't because the False Prophet desecrates the temple Mid-Trib. Counting backward by Jewish inclusive reckoning, we find that the Seventieth Week of Daniel/Tribulation starts appropriately on the Feast of Weeks in 2001.

I am hoping for the Pre-Trib Rapture on Pentecost, 2000, and expect the Pre-Wrath Rapture to take place just before the Wrath of God is unleashed on unbelievers on Sept. 13, 2007.

There seem to be 7 good years and 7 bad years, as when Joseph was in Egypt. I think they started when the Oslo Accords were signed Sept. 13, 1993. The 7 good years would be 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 and 2000. The 7 bad years would be 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007. Joseph took up 1/5th of the grain in the good years. We are the wheat. I expect to be taken up in the 7 good years too. Pentecost is the wheat harvest festival. I think it is the most likely time for the Pre-Trib Rapture.

Sept. 13, 1993 + 7 + 7 = Sept. 13, 2007. The Oslo Accords were ratified 3 days later in Israel, on Tishri 1. Tishri 1, 5754 + 7 + 7 = Tishri 1, 5768, which is Sept. 13, 2007. That seems like something God would plan.

Since I think that 5758 (1997,1998) was the 6000th year since Adam was cast out of the Garden of Eden, I thought the Rapture would take place on Pentecost, 1998, 50 years after Israel declared her Independence. It didn't. Why? The year 5758 means the season of Noah, and the Rapture is to be as the days of Noah (Mt. 24:37).

There is another parable of a fig tree, the barren fig tree, in Lu. 13:6-9. In that parable, the Lord only speaks in the 3rd year. He just comes and looks for fruit on the fig tree in the first 2 years. He neither comes nor speaks in the extra year. It may be that we entered the season of Noah in 1998. The 2 years that the Lord would come and look for fruit on the fig tree (Israel) would correspond to Pentecost, 1998 and Pentecost, 1999. The 3rd year, when he speaks, would correspond with Pentecost, 2000. The extra year would extend to the Feast of Weeks/Pentecost, 2001, when I think the Final Status Peace Agreement will be confirmed by the Beast and False Prophet of Rev. 13. It may be that the digging and dunging about the fig tree in the extra year will be the declaration of a Palestinian State on Sept. 13, 2000.

Do you remember the death and resurrection of Lazarus (which means 'whom God aids')? Jn. 11:6 says that when Yahshua heard that Lazarus was sick, "HE ABODE TWO DAYS STILL IN THE SAME PLACE WHERE HE WAS." Then he came and resurrected Lazarus. If this might apply to our days, we could say that on the 1st day (Pentecost, 1998). Yahshua came and looked for fruit on the fig tree, found none and so abode still in Heaven. On the 2nd day (Pentecost, 1999), he did the same thing. Then what would take place on the 3rd day? RESURRECTION, as with Lazarus. On that day, Yahshua "cried with a LOUD VOICE, LAZARUS, COME FORTH" (Jn. 11:43). At the Rapture, I Thess. 4:16-18 says, " For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a SHOUT, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and THE DEAD IN CHRIST SHALL RISE first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

When the Rapture takes place in Rev. 4:1, Christ's voice like a TRUMPET says, "COME UP HITHER." In spring, in Song of Sol. 2:10, the Bridegroom says to his Bride, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, RISE UP, my love, my fair one, and COME AWAY." Does that remind you of Yahshua's words to Lazarus after 2 days? When Israel was at Sinai, the Lord said for Moses to tell them, "be ready against the THIRD DAY: for the third day the LORD will come down." The first trump of the Bible sounded at Sinai on that 3rd day. Ex. 19:16 says that "the VOICE of the TRUMPET (was) exceeding LOUD."

The voice like a trumpet is Yahshua's. He gave Moses the 10 commandments before he dwelt in a human body. Isa. 48: 16-18 says, "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD (Adoni Elohim), and his Spirit (Holy Spirit), hath sent ME (Yahshua). Thus saith the LORD (YHVH), thy REDEEMER, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. O that thou hadst hearkened to MY COMMANDMENTS! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea."

Isa. 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHVH) the King of Israel, and HIS REDEEMER the LORD (YHVH) of hosts; I am the first, AND I am the last; and beside me there is no God." YHVH of hosts is the redeemer. He dwelt in Yahshua so that he could die in our place and therefore become our redeemer. II Cor. 5:19 says, "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself." Our redeemer came in his father's name. Yah shua means Yah saves. Yah is short for YHVH. YHVH of hosts is our redeemer, our Yahshua.

Let us be sure that we have confessed all our sins (I Jn. 1:9) just in case the Rapture is soon. Time is getting short.

If you read my most recent Pro and Cons, you will find out a lot about people that believe as you do all over the world. Internet email has brought us together in a way that wasn't possible until these days. Shalom in His glorious Name

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Re: the next Pope
There was a comment in your last P&C:
> > "Also, the beast is to be of Jewish descent (see Daniel) and unless the next pope (who could be soon considering John Paul's health) has some Jewish blood, it would seem that he couldn't be the antichrist. .."

Jean-Marie Lustiger, the Archbishop of Paris, is considered by many conservatives to be the next Pope. Lustiger has a Jewish heritage. I also think it is the Pope after next we have to be concerned about. Agape.

My reply

The Beast of Rev. 13:1-10 may be of Jewish descent, but I don't see why he has to be. He is the Beast that comes up out of the SEA (nations, Rev. 13:1; 17:15). He is the 6th head of the great red dragon, the one that "is" (Rev. 17:10) at the time of the Pre-Trib Rapture. He is head of the Roman Ecclesiastical Empire. Rev. 13:7,8 says, " power was given him over ALL kindreds, and tongues, and NATIONS. And all that dwell upon the earth shall WORSHIP HIM, whose names are not written in the book of life." He is head of the UN and the UR.

Dan. 7:7 says, "behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great IRON (symbol of Rome) teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was DIVERSE from all the beasts that were before it; and IT HAD TEN HORNS" (i.e., ten toes). Dan. 2:40 says, "And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces (divides the world into 10 regions) and subdueth all things" (the whole world).

There are 10 subsidiary kings under him. The False Prophet is the OTHER that comes up. He is a Jew, probably from the tribe of Dan. Rev. 13:11 says, "And I beheld ANOTHER beast coming up out of the earth (i.e., out of eretz Israel); and he had two horns (Satan has 2 comings in man, in Judas Iscariot and the False Prophet) like a lamb (as Christ has 2 comings in a human body), and he spake as a dragon" (he is Satan possessed). Dan. 7:20 says, "And of the ten horns that were in his (the first Beast's) head, and of the OTHER (the False Prophet) which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things (because he speaks like Satan), whose look was more stout than his fellows." Dan. 7:24 says, "And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise (as the Tribulation begins): and ANOTHER shall rise after them; and he shall be DIVERSE (he is not the same man as the Beast) from the first, and he shall subdue three kings."

Rev. 17:10 says, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and ONE IS (the 6th head of the great red dragon, the BEAST, the Tribulation Pope), and the OTHER (the 7th head, the False Prophet) is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." Rev. 17:12 says, "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received NO KINGDOM AS YET; but receive power as kings one hour (42 months) with the BEAST." Rev. 13:5 says, "and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months."

Rev. 13:1 says, "And I stood upon the sand (hinting of Babylon in the desert) of the sea (nations, Rev. 17:15), and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (nations), having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns TEN CROWNS, and upon his heads THE NAME OF BLASPHEMY (PONTIFEX MAXIMUS, Christ is our true High Priest). The Beast is the 6th head. The 10 horns are 10 kings over the 10 regions of the world. Rev. 17:3 says, "So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness (desert, i.e., Babylon): and I saw a woman (United Religions) sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns."

Rev. 18:2-4 warns, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For ALL NATIONS have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication (joining), and the kings of the earth have committed fornication (joined) with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

Rev. 12:3 says, "And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and SEVEN CROWNS upon his heads." Rev. 13:11,12 says, " And I beheld ANOTHER beast coming up out of the earth (Israel); and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him (he becomes head of the UN and UR), and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

2300th DAY OF THE TRIBULATION (Dan. 8:14)
Rev. 18:21 says, " And a mighty angel took up a stone (asteroid) like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

Rev. 19:20 says, "And the BEAST was taken, and with him the FALSE PROPHET that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." Agape

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Thank you so much. By the way, it is always good advice to remind everyone to UPDATE THEIR WILL.

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City of Light Web page. Excellent reference!
You probably already know about this which I found there:

"...Over the years 1996 to 1999, precisely at the time of the Feast of Trumpets in Israel (Tishrei 1), there will be a sign in the heavens that has never occurred before (while man was on the earth) and cannot occur again for another 25,920 years, according to astronomers. The new moon will be 'born' in the constellation of Bethulah (the Virgin) on this date during each of these four years, and will then move directly to the feet of the Virgin within 24 hours. The Sun is just below the horizon, so that Bethulah is 'clothed' with the Sun. Positioned over the Virgin's head is the constellation known as "Bernice's Hair" - the crown of twelve stars! And higher, above her legs, we find Draco, the Dragon, poised to devour her child when it is born...."

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FWD: Dr. Rod Lewis:
> >Last Friday, the 14th of April, 2000, which coincidentally was the 88th anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic, witnessed the largest decrease in value of the equities markets in history.

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It also was Nisan 9, the anniversary of Palm Sunday in 30 AD.

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Re: rapture
I really enjoy your web site! Still i do have questions. First, Hal Linsey believes in one rapture, with the taking of even the carnal christians, as Paul when he was writing about the rapture was addressing the corinthian church and they were known to be carnal, he said we shall all be taken up. what is your response to this? also are you certain we will be taken up in june? i so want to believe it! what will you say when the june dates come and go and nothing happens? do not get me wrong, i sincerly hope you are right, however how can you be so sure? i am going to be so dissapointed if nothing happens. i probably deserve least to go in the rapture...ive struggled so hard to be ready, i hope you can see why i am so concerned. keep me informed..and keep up the great work!

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> > one rapture, with the taking of even the carnal christians, as Paul when he was writing about the rapture was addressing the corinthian church and they were known to be carnal

I Thess. 4:13-18 is the FIRST TRUMP. So is Christ's voice like a "TRUMPET" in Rev. 4:1. I Cor. 15:551-53 is the "LAST TRUMP." The first trump includes the wise Philadelphian virgins (Mt. 25:1-13; Rev. 3:7-13). The last trump includes the carnal Christians, the foolish Laodicean virgins (Mt. 25:1-13; Rev. 3:14f). The first group is seen in Heaven before the Tribulation begins, in Rev. 5:9. The Tribulation starts in Rev. 6. The second group is seen in Heaven between the breaking of the 6th and 7th seals, in Rev. 7:14. The 7th seal brings forth the 7 trumpet judgments, starting in Rev. 8. The first is the "little flock." Lu. 12:32 says, "Fear not, LITTLE FLOCK; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom." The second group is a great multitude which no man can number (Rev. 7:9).

Jacob worked 7 years for a wife. It turned out to be Leah (weary, tired, i.e., workers). She had 4 sons. He then worked another 7 years for another wife, Rachel (a sheep). She only had two children, and was barren for quite awhile. The first wife represents the wise virgins, probably to be raptured in the 7th year of the 7 good years that started when the Oslo Accords were signed Sept. 13, 1993 (1993 + 7 = 2000). The second wife represents the foolish virgins and Israel, probably to be raptured in the 7th year of the 7 bad years (as when Joseph was in Egypt), Sept. 13, 2007 (1993 + 7 + 7 = 2007).

I think the first Rapture will be on Pentecost, the second on the Feast of Trumpets. Gen. 29:22,23 says, " And Laban (white, shining, gentle) gathered together all the men of the place, and made a FEAST. And it came to pass in the evening, that he took Leah (the 'FIRSTBORN,' V. 26) his daughter, and brought her to him."

Nu. 10:1-4 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Make thee TWO TRUMPETS of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps. And when they shall blow with them (both), ALL the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation (as in I Cor. 15:51,52). And if they blow but with ONE TRUMPET, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel (i.e., 24 elders, 12 patriarchs and 12 apostles), shall gather themselves unto thee" (as in I Thess. 4:13-18; Rev. 4:1-4).

> > are you certain we will be taken up in june?

No, but it seems likely. We are in the 7th good year. We seem to be running out of time. Do you remember when Lazarus was raised from the dead? Jesus abode where he was for 2 days. Then Lazarus was resurrected. Since 1998 was so clearly marked by the 480th year in the Modern Parallels, I thought the Rapture would be on Pentecost, 1998. It wasn't. However, the Rapture includes resurrection. Maybe Jesus keeps his abode in Heaven on Pentecost, 1998 and Pentecost, 1999. Then may come resurrection on Pentecost, 2000.

It would agree with the parable of the barren fig tree in Lu. 13:6-9. Jesus only comes looking for fruit on the fig tree (Israel) 2 years. Then, in the 3rd year, he comes and SPEAKS. Let's hope he says, "Come up hither" (Rev. 4:1) in the 3rd year, Pentecost, 2000.

If not, it can't be long, however you figure. We must stay the course, whenever the Rapture is. We are being tested, and we must not fail. Satan is allowed to sift us like wheat. We must stay in the sieve, no matter what happens. Agape

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I have been perusing your website today after doing a search on the internet for "Pentecost."

Last year I started delving into prophecy and listening to a very good teacher, Chuck Missler, and also trying to better understand the Jewish feasts. Of course, there was a lot of talk about the blood moon, the alignment of planets, the signs in the heavens, and even the possible return of Christ during Rosh Hashannah. Of course, He didn't return then, and since then I've been wondering if the rapture of the church is NOT related to the Jewish feasts but will happen on an anniversary of the ascention and first fruits times, since the church IS the first fruits, and your website was similar to what I was pondering in the back of my head. I'm not trying to set a date for His return, although I believe it is extremely soon.

I know that we are in the last days, and I feel very privleged to be alive during the time of His return. Even during some of the darkest hours of my life, I always felt as if I couldn't let go of life because I would miss His return, and there are many who have died waiting to see His return.

I am a screenwriter, and even the things I see being made on TV and in films just reflect how degraded our society has become. I look at the films that were honored at this year's Academy Awards, and I am just disheartened. And how much deals with witchcraft anymore? So much on TV is about witchcraft. A couple of years ago I prayed that God would let me just have ONE movie made before the rapture, and last year I saw that dream come true, but since then I have felt almost no desire to write. As if there is no purpose in it anymore. I just want to listen to good teaching from the Bible (I attend Calvary Chapel in Santa Monica).

Anyhow, perhaps I am rambling a bit. I don't know if I agree with everything on your site, since some of it seems very speculative and based only on the most minimalist verses, but I do agree that He is very near, even at the door, and that a rapture at this time of the year seems more likely than at any other time of the year.

I know you probably get a zillion emails, but if you wish to talk, I would love the chance to exchange ideas. Kindest regards in Him

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> > possible return of Christ during Rosh Hashanah

The parable of the fig tree suggests spring, when the trees leaf out. Lu. 29:29-31 says, "Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that SUMMER IS NOW NIGH AT HAND. So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NIGH AT HAND."

Song of Sol. 2:10-14 indicates spring: " My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. For, lo, the WINTER IS PAST, the rain (latter rain of Nisan) is over and gone; The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (turtledove) is heard in our land; The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs." Places is not in the Hebrew. This is the secret of the stairs. Like Jacob's ladder, it reaches from Earth to Heaven. The "LORD stood above it" (Gen. 28:13).

Mic. 7:1,2 says, " Woe is me! for I am as (symbolic language) when they have gathered the summer fruits, as the grapegleanings of the vintage: there is no cluster to eat: my soul desired the firstripe fruit (i.e., the first Rapture at Pentecost). The good man is perished (abad, escaped) out of the earth: and there is none upright among men." Here the Wrath of God is about to fall on unbelievers left behind on the Feast of Trumpets (Rosh Hashanah).

Ex. 23:19 says of Pentecost/Feast of Weeks, "The FIRST of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the LORD thy God.." We are the FIRST of the firstfruits. The 144,000 are the LAST of the firstfruits. Of them, Rev. 14:4 says, "These are they which were not defiled with women (harlot religions); for they are virgins (though foolish ones at the first Rapture, they have now washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb, Rev. 7:14). These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the FIRSTFRUITS unto God and to the Lamb." They are caught up in the Pre-Wrath Rapture on the Feast of Trumpets.

I believe the FIRST of the firstfruits are caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture on Pentecost. The LAST of the firstfruits are caught up in the Pre-Wrath Rapture on the Feast of Trumpets. That is when the summer fruits are gathered.

Neh.10:35,36 says of Pentecost, "And to bring the firstfruits of our ground, and the firstfruits of all fruit of all trees, year by year, unto the house of the LORD: Also the firstborn of our SONS."

> > I've been wondering if the rapture of the church is NOT related to the Jewish feasts but will happen on an anniversary of the ascention and first fruits times, since the church IS the first fruits

Jacob worked 7 years for Leah and 7 years for Rachel. It only mentions Laban giving a FEAST when Jacob's first wife was given him. I think this is to show us that the first Rapture will be on a feast day. I think Leah represents the Church (caught up in the 7th of the 7 good years, as when Joseph took up a fifth of the grain in the good years) and Rachel represents Israel (caught up in the 7th of the 7 bad years).

The 7 good years seem to have started Sept. 13, 1993, when the Oslo Accords were signed. Sept. 13, 1993 + 7 = Sept. 13, 2000, when the Final Status Peace Agreement is slated to be signed. Sept. 13, 2000 + 7 = Sept. 13, 2007, the very day I think the Pre-Wrath Rapture will take place.

The Oslo Accords were ratified in Israel 3 days later, on Tishri 1, 5754. Tishri 1, 5754 + 7 + 7 = Tishri 1, 5768, which just happens to be Sept. 13, 2007. I think this is a result of God's precise planning. Everything seems to be falling into place. The United Religions charter is to be signed June 26, 2000. I hope we are with the Lord by that time. Abraham was told to leave Ur. As the Tribulation begins, God's people are told to come out of the harlot church--UR. We knew the World Church was coming. Now it is here. It's headquarters will be moved to the land of Shinar (Babylon), where she will be set there on here own base, the Tower of Babel.

Zech. 5:11 says, "And he said unto me, To build it (the ephah, largest measure for wheat, i.e., the world church) an house in the land of SHINAR: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base."

Gen. 11:1-4 says, " And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of SHINAR; and they dwelt there. And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a TOWER, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth."

The Sign of the End of the Age was when Israel grew leaves (Sinai, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, West Bank) in the Six-Day War of 1967 and fulfilled the fig tree parable in Mt. 24:32-34. The year 1967 + a 40-year generation = 2007. If "this generation" of Mt. 22:36 was 40 years, from 30 to 70 AD, "this generation" of Mt. 24:34 is also 40 years.

> > I would love the chance to exchange ideas.

So would I. We can learn from one another. I don't have any pet theory to defend. I only want to understand as much of the Bible as possible in the time we have left. I have been studying it as hard as I can go ever since before 1960, and there is still much to learn.

I have been to Chuck Smith's Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa several times, starting back before they even met in the tent. We sat in the aisles or out on the ground listening over loudspeakers in those days. Is your church an offshoot of that one? Agape

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