The Dea-Roma Coin
A book report
Someone nice sent me The Return of the Messiah the King of Glory, by Richard Aaron Honorof, because Honorof thinks the Rapture will come at midnight on Shavuot/Pentecost. I would say I agree with this--except--he has it taking place after the asteroid impacts under trumpet 2 and 3, even after the 5th trumpet. when the bottomless pit is opened. No. He and I disagree on many things.
He thinks Jesus was born on Tabernacles. I think he came as the former rain on Tishri 1. Hos. 6:3 says, "he LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth." The former rain starts Tishri 1. The latter rain (Second Advent) starts Nisan 1.
Eze. 29:17 sets the day, "in the first month, in the first day of the month." Then verse 21 says, "In that day (Nisan 1, first day of the Regnal and Sacred Year) will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth (Word, Logos) in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD."
Honorof thinks Joseph and Mary were at Bethlehem when Joseph would have planned to be at Jerusalem on Tabernacles. It was one of the 3 pilgrimage feasts, when all males were to be at Jerusalem. For him to register for the census at the end of the year would make more sense to me. That may have been the last day to register.
Ex. 23:14-17 says, "Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) And the feast of harvest (Pentecost), the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering (Tabernacles), which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the LORD God."
At first, I thought Honorof might say that the Rapture could be on Pentecost, 2000. I sure got fooled. On p. 35, he said,
Daniel's 70th week of seven years may begin on Rosh HaShanah, in the year 2000. On the feast of Shavuot 2007, God will raise His Bride up into Heaven. And then on the feast of Rosh HaShanah 2007, the Wedding Ceremony of King Yeshua to His Bride will take place. This Wedding at Rosh HaShanah is announced by the seventh angel blowing the seventh trumpet of Revelation 11:15.(underlining omitted throughout)
I think the Pre-Trib Rapture is likely on Pentecost, 2000, before the Tribulation starts on the Feast of Weeks/Pentecost, 2001. I think the Pre-Wrath Rapture is to be on Tishri 1, 2007, Rosh HaShanah, Feast of Trumpets. Then the Marriage of the Lamb will take place in Heaven after the Coronation of Christ and before the Judgment Seat of Christ, when the 7 trumpet judgments hit Earth.
Honorof says, " The Marriage Supper of the Lamb, on Yeshua's Birthday, The Feast of Tabernacles." I think the Marriage Supper will follow the Judgment Seat of Christ on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 13, 2007, which is Yeshua's birthday.
On p. 40, Honorof said,
There have been three kings over Israel: Saul, David and Solomon. Each served 40 years as king. However, David first served 7 years in Hebron as king over Judah, and then 33 years in Jerusalem as king over Israel. 1967 + 33 years is 2000. Could 2000 be the start of Daniel's 70th week, or the last seven years for our planet...
He is close. I think the shortened Tribulation will begin on Pentecost, 2001. It looks to me like the end-time years may be the mirror image of king David's reign. 1967 + 33 = 2000, probably the year of the Pre-Trib Rapture. 2000 + 7 = 2007, when I think the greater Son of David will begin his reign on the Feast of Trumpets that begins the millennial Day of the Lord.
Honoroff was wrong when he said, "...the war of Gog and Magog. When does this war take place? It seems likely to happen any day now, and definitely before the year 2000."
I think it will take place Tishri 1, 5768, Sept. 13, 2007. That is when Christ steps in and fights for Israel. It is the day of God's Wrath, decreed upon unbelievers at the Judgment Seat of Christ.
Believers get their rewards at the same time that unbelievers left on Earth are dealt the Wrath of God. Rev. 11:17,18, right after Christ is crowned, says, "We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast REIGNED. And the nations were angry, and thy WRATH is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be JUDGED, and that thou shouldest give REWARD unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest DESTROY them which destroy the earth."
I learned something great from Honorof. On page 58, he said, "In Hebrew, the word for stone is 'eben', which is a combination of two Hebrew words, 'av' and 'ben', father and son. The word stone is father + son.)" No wonder Christ is our rock.
Here is where we disagree. I think the Rapture will be on Pentecost before the Tribulation, as Rev. 4:1 is before the Tribulation begins in Rev. 6. Here is what Honorof said on p. 72:
Many believe that Revelation 4:1 is the Church's call home, for there is no further mention of the Church after this point of 4:1, in the book of Revelation. But I totally disagree with this view, for only His Bride is taken up, and not early, but very late.
In 1st Thessalonians 4:16, it says: God descends from heaven with a commanding word by the voice of an archangel (by the Angel of the Lord, Yeshua), and with a trumpet of God (blown by Lord Yeshua). Is this trumpet of God, which is the shofar that Yeshua Himself sounds, when the dead and the living members of His Body are raised up into heaven, the last trump? Yes! Could this also happen at the same time that the two witnesses are taken up into heaven, just before the seventh trumpet? (see Revelation 11:12,15) No, for the last trump will be sounded at the Lord's return on Yom Kippur! These two witnesses minister for exactly 3 1/2 years, starting at Passover and finishing just prior to Rosh HaShanah. Yeshua's Bride is most likely taken up to heaven on Shavuot, fifty days after the Passover season."
The first trump that calls the wise virgins up to Heaven before the Tribulation is "the trump of GOD" (I Thess. 4:16). It cannot be the 7th trumpet that is sounded by an ANGEL AFTER THE 7TH SEAL is broken (Rev. 8:1,2). The group caught up in the first Rapture are redeemed "out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation" (Rev. 5:9), BEFORE THE 1ST SEAL is broken in Rev. 6.
He also said, "the two witness are taken up into heaven, just before the seventh trumpet." I think the two witnesses prophesy during the first half of the Tribulation and are killed when the False Prophet takes over in the middle of the Tribulation. They probably won't bow down to him or his idol, so he kills them.
Honorof has the Bride being raptured on Pentecost, but it is the last Pentecost before the Marriage of the Lamb on the following Rosh HaShanah. On p. 86, he said,
Yeshua takes His firstfruits Bride up into heaven to be with Him on Shavuot, the Spring Harvest, with the Wedding Ceremony to take place at the sounding of the Seventh Trumpet on the feast of Rosh HaShanah. This happens late in the tribulation years. This Seventh Trumpet also announces Yeshua's soon return back to earth. On Yom Kippur, ten days later, Yeshua will return to earth with His armies, i.e., His Bride, sounding the Great Shofar, bringing the Wrath of God upon His enemies."
On p. 137, Honorof quotes Rev. 9, when the 5th trumpet sounds, "only those men (and women) who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads." Then he says,
This indicates that those with God's seal, who I am positive are His Bride, are still on the earth, even after the fifth angel has sounded! This proves that they are still here on earth late into the great tribulation years.
If this was so, the Bride of Christ would go through the two asteroid impacts of the Wrath of God (Rev. 8:8,10). They are under the 2nd and 3rd trumpets. I do not believe that at all. If that were true, why would Jesus say, "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to ESCAPE all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man" (Lu. 21:36)? If the Bride isn't worthy to escape, who is?
The reason I am writing you is to thank you for first article in Pro and Con 492 regarding the New Object. For months, I have been going outside when I say my bedtime prayers and have been drawn to the Big Dipper, now I know why!
I also read the article regarding JesusDay 2000 and logged on to their site. Please be careful, there are groups and churches involved (ie: Promise Keepers) that are deceptive and likely to get a "woe" from GOD. This scheduled event could very easily be turned to Satan if we are Raptured on June 9th.
I also want all your readers to know that astronomy is totally different from astrology.The Bible warns against astrology, and the increased interest in it( ie: Dial up your horoscope ads) is also a sign of the End Times. Astronomy is the study of Heavenly bodies, derived from the Greek words astron, meaning a star; and nomos, meaning law. Jesus is the Morning Star and GOD is the Law. Your Brother in Christ
> > Please know that if the Rapture does not happen on Pentecost 2000, I will never be disappointed, but only encourged to look harder.
I would be disappointed, but mildly so. I want everything to happen exactly according to the Lord's plan. His will be done. Whether I understand it or not is beside the point. He certainly knows best.
We keep getting strange lights in the sky. Wonder why? :-) They don't mean a thing to some people. However, we were told to watch, and that there would be signs in the sun, moon and stars. When we see these things begin to happen, we are to know that the Rapture is nigh (Lu. 21:25,28). Agape
What is the oil?
The "Oil" is a close, conscious contact with Jesus. A personal relationship.
How do you get it? The same way that you might have a personal relationship with with a friend. You need to spend time with them. You visit them, you call them, they call you, etc. You have dialog with them. You're honest with them. You tell them things about yourself - things like your past. You share your life with them - the good, the bad, and the ugly. And you don't leave out little details of what happened, just to strengthen your case, or make yourself look good. You let them know the real you - and they let you know the real them. You speak a while. Then you listen a while. If something that they say is of a different opinion than yours, you consider it, and maybe even change your opinion. You are openminded to what they have to say. You are willing to do things for them. If a friend says "could you pick me up at the airport", wouldn't you say "Sure - what time?"
For me, it required a willingness to go "to any lengths" to get it. When I asked for his protection and care, it was with complete abandon. No restrictions. Let me explain:
I'm a man, and I had alway thought I was pretty tough, full of machismo. Quick to fight. Even when I knew I had no chance of winning, I would rather take a beating than be a sissy. (I never said I was smart.) The wimpiest thing that I could think of being was one of those guys that shaved their heads, and wore a pink robe, and sold flowers at the airport.
One day I came to the conclusion that I had been beaten again. This time by life. I was broke, my life was empty, I was scared and alone. I felt an overwhelming sense of hoplessness. I didn't have the will to "do battle" another day, and I was brought to my knees. On that day I humbly asked God for his protection and care. I remember saying "God, please save me. If you want me to shave my head, and wear a pink robe, and sell flowers at the airport, then fine, I don't care. If that's what you want me to do, then I will do it." And I meant it. I didn't care any longer about anything in this world. I knew only that I no longer had the ability to run my life, and I asked Him to please run it for me, however He saw fit. I was willing to go to any lengths.
Instantly, I was overcome with a feeling of His presence. I felt relieved, like the weight of the world was lifted off of my back. I knew that it was going to be O.K., and I cried like a baby. It was a feeling like I had never before experienced. God was now running my life - I no longer had to. I only had to show up, and look alert. The results were in the hands of God. I still had to do "the footwork". I had to get up and go to work and pay the bills and all of the normal things that people have to do, I just didn't have to run the world anymore.
I do have to rely upon Him. My brain, it turns out, is not my friend. In a typical "day in the life of..." I am constantly asking Him what I should do in this situation, or that situation, or how should I respond to this or that, etc. This is the close, conscious contact I spoke of. Sometimes we laugh, sometimes we are somber. But He is always there.
Sometimes I am tested. Sometimes little things. For example, I might be low on gas, have a long drive ahead of me, and not enough money for the trip. I might buy something from a store, and they give me the wrong change. They might give me change for a $20.00, even though I have only given them a $5.00. My brain lets out a shout "Yea!! Now I've got money!" But in my heart I know it's not right, and I ask God for guidance. Maybe I get a thought, or maybe it's more like a feeling - the right thing is to tell the cashier, give the money back, and leave the results up to Him. I leave the store, feeling good about having done the right thing, only to bump into an old friend that owes me money, and has just gotten paid, and really, REALLY wants to make it up to me. The comical part about this is that I had long ago forgotten the debt, and was just happy to be reaquainted with my old friend.
Little miracles like this happen on a daily basis. You can bet that my life is full of hope, today.
One of the interesting things that I've discovered is this: Even though I am willing to go to any length that He may require of me - He has never required me to go to any great lengths. I still have a head of hair, (receding nicely, thank you) I don't own anything pink, and I don't get near airports unless I'm traveling. I have grown fond of flowers, however. (I just realized that the pretty ones in the corner of my yard are pansies. ;-) Aint He a riot? Thanks God.)
Likewise, I have a couple of really good friends, and they know that if they should ever ask - I would be there for them. Anything they should ask for, I would do, without reservation. Anything. Likewise, so would they. Interestingly, I would not even consider asking them for anything that might be immoral, criminal, or dangerous or put them in a bind financially. I wouldn't even consider it.
I have never become close friends with somebody overnight. For me, it takes time to build trust. I don't know how long it will take for you to fill your lamp with oil. May I encourage you to hurry.
"And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. "
Your intentions sound good, but I think you missed the mark. I hope you will think it through again. To me, the oil symbolizes the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of God, called the Holy Spirit or the Holy Ghost. If you have the Spirit of Christ in you, you will have "a close, conscious contact with Jesus," but it is the Spirit of Christ, the oil of the Holy Spirit, that brings it about, not the other way around.
The oil is not "a close, conscious contact with Jesus." The oil is the Spirit of Christ that brings us into "a close, conscious contact with Jesus." The oil is the cause. The close contact with Jesus is the result.
II Sam. 22:29 says, "For thou art my lamp, O LORD: and the LORD will lighten my darkness." How does this Holy lamp stay lit to lighten our darkness? It pours Holy oil (Holy Spirit), into our vessels, into our bodies. The Spirit of God must dwell in us for our lamp to be lit. Our lamp is not lit if the Spirit of God is outside of us. He must come inside us, dwell in us.
Rom. 8:9,10 says, "ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his. And if Christ be IN YOU, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness."
When we accept Christ, he baptizes us in his Holy Spirit. It is as if we were a cup, and he poured the Holy Spirit into our cup until it was overflowing. Psa. 23:5 says, "thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over."
At that point, we are in fellowship with our Holy God. All sins are wiped off the books. We are righteous. But, what happens when we sin after that? Sin is incompatible with God. Walking in righteousness is walking in the light. Walking in sin is walking in darkness. Listen as John tries to explain this to us.
I John 1:3-9 says, "truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But IF WE WALK IN THE LIGHT, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST HIS SON CLEANSETH US FROM ALL SIN. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS, he is faithful and just to FORGIVE US our sins, and to CLEANSE US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."
Therefore, we need this cleansing and refilling of our lamps with oil. Otherwise, we are quenching the Spirit. I Thess. 5:19 is a command: "Quench not the Spirit." Eph. 5:18 is also a command: "be filled with the Spirit." Confessing our sins is the way to stop quenching the Spirit and to be filled with the Spirit. If we are filled with the Spirit of Christ, we are in fellowship with Christ. We walk with him and talk with him, and he sticks closer than a brother.
Honesty, Openmindedness and Willingness fall short of keeping our lamp burning brightly. However, if we keep out lamp burning brightly, we will be honest, openminded and willing to have a close relationship with Christ.
> > I don't know how long it will take for you to fill your lamp with oil.
It takes knowing exactly what to do first, or we will end up spinning our wheels and accomplishing little. We have to repent and confess our sins. If we do that, the filling with oil is automatic. It is as a fountain of living water welling up within us. Agape
First, we need to discern what time period "THEN" refers to. Second, "THEY SHALL SEE THE SON OF MAN" means that they shall see Christ. They will see his face. Eze. 38:20 says, "all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my PRESENCE (paneh, FACE), and the mountains shall be thrown down." Verse 23 says, " I will be known in the EYES of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."
Mt. 24:15 says, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)" That is the middle of the Tribulation. Right now, the Tribulation has not started. We don't have a temple, so how could the abomination of desolation stand in the holy place? It will stand there Mid-Trib.
Dan. 9:27 says, "And he (the False Prophet) shall CONFIRM THE COVENANT with many (the Beast and others in the UN) for one week (7 years, the Tribulation): and in the midst of the week (Mid-Trib) he (the False Prophet) shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (he will become Satan-possessed and 'as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God,' II Thess. 2:4) and for the overspreading of ABOMINATIONS (idols) he shall make it (the temple) desolate, even until THE CONSUMMATION (the 2300th day of the shortened Tribulation, Dan. 8:14), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate (lit., desolator, i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet)."
To kick off the Tribulation, the Beast of Rev. 13:2-10, the Pontifex Maximus, and the False Prophet of Rev. 11-18 will CONFIRM the Final Status Peace Agreement. It is supposed to be signed Sept. 13, 2000. I think the Beast and False Prophet will CONFIRM it on the following Feast of Weeks/Pentecost, 2001. In the middle of the Tribulation, the False Prophet will take over all the duties previously performed by the Beast. Since the Beast has a Roman connection, the False Prophet will also have a Roman connection. Both operate in the times of the feet of Nebuchadnezzar's image (Dan. 2:33). The iron of Rome is mixed with clay of the other nations. Rev. 13:12 says, "And he exerciseth ALL THE POWER of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."
"THEN" in Mt. 24:30 refers to "THE CONSUMMATION," the 2300th day of the shortened Tribulation. That is when they will look up and see Christ in the sky. Rev. 6:14-17 says, "the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from THE FACE OF HIM that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"
The May 5 alignment is not the Sign of the Son of Man in Mt. 24:30, but it seems to be one of the signs in Lu. 21:25. It says, "And there shall be SIGNS (plural) in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring." Verse 28 says, "And when these things BEGIN to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption (i.e., THE RAPTURE) DRAWETH NIGH."
This is not just one sign. There are SIGNS. We had the biggest and most violent gamma ray burster ever on Jan. 23, 1999, 49 years to the day after the first meeting of the Knesset declared Jerusalem the capitol of Israel on Jan. 23, 1950. We had a new star, NOVA VELORUM, in the sails of the ship ARGO (THE COMPANY OF TRAVELERS) on May 22, 1999. That was on the Saturday Shabbat, Sivan 7, Pentecost. I find that interesting. It was NOT on Sivan 6. It just so happens that Sivan 7, 5760 (June 10, 2000) is also on Shabbat.
The ship ARGO represents Christ, just as Noah's Ark did. He is the Saviour. ARGO has a representation of Christ's face at the waterline and the Ram's Head on the prow. The sails of ARGO are reefed. The ship is backing into the dock. The Rapture draweth nigh. I hope we go to Shabbatai (Saturn, Heaven) on Pentecost Shabbat (Jerusalem time). That would probably make it Sivan 6 for me here in California. Israel is 10 hours ahead of us.
The other new star was NOVA AQUILLA, on Dec. 1, 1999 (Kislev 22, 5760). AQUILLA is the dying eagle among the constellations. It represents Christ's sacrifice for us. He became our Passover so that he could be our Saviour, i.e., our ship ARGO. We are in Christ, i.e., THE COMPANY OF TRAVELERS on this ship that is backing into the dock. Our redemption is nigh.
In 30 AD, Jesus ascended 40 days after his resurrection. Then, he returned to the Church as the Spirit of Christ on the 50th day, Pentecost. I hope he returns to the Church again on this Pentecost. In 30 AD, the Church was born on Earth. At the Rapture, the Church will be born into another new world.
As I understand it, the planetary lineup on May 5 includes all the heavenly bodies Josephus indicated the candlestick stood for, the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Rev. 1:20 says, "the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches." There seems to be a good tie-in. Will our candlestick be in the heavens come Pentecost? Friday, May 5 will be the end of the 2nd week of the 7-week-plus-one-day countdown to Pentecost.
The planets will be leaving ARIES and entering TAURUS. The ARIES lamb resting will become the SNOW WHITE bull rimu (extinct large wild ox) charging. Both represent Christ. There is a star named EL NATH (THE WOUNDED OR SLAIN) in the constellation ARIES. There is also one of the same name in TAURUS. That is why these 2 figures overlap in the gospel in the stars; they both represent Christ. The Hebrew name for the sign TAURUS is SHUR, (THE BULL COMING). Its astronomical symbol reminds us of Noah's Ark. It is a boat floating on the world. The Rapture is as the days of Noah.
Things are getting interesting. Not only do we have the signs in the heavens, the United Religions charter is to be signed June 26, 2000, and the Final Status Peace Agreement is to be signed Sept. 13, 2000. Get ready and look up, your redemption draweth nigh. Agape
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