Pro and Con 508

Posted 5-14-00


Like modern movie directors, Jesus ran a Preview of the Rapture first. He showed us Christ as he will be seen at the Rapture and had John act it out in 1:10. After that, Revelation 1:19 says, "Write the things which thou hast seen (things before the Rapture),and the things which are (when the Rapture is AT HAND), and the things which shall be hereafter (after the Rapture)."

I now think that the setting for chapters 2 and 3 of his dramatic production, The Revelation of Jesus Christ, is when the Rapture is "at hand," on the anniversary of Jesus' Ascension Day. It is ten days before Pentecost.

I can think of no other ten-day period that could precede a springtime Rapture besides Ascension Day. It would explain why Christ picked the 40th day after his resurrection to ascend. There had to be a very good reason for that 10-day gap between Ascension Day and Pentecost. It would also explain why the persecution of Rev. 2:10 would be certain to end in exactly ten days.

Rev. 2:10 says, "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." The crown of life will be given at the Rapture. James 1:12 says, "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him."

Thus, Christ's assessment of the state of the churches is very up to date--today. If he wrote Revelation 2 and 3 from the vantage point of the Ascension Day preceding the Rapture, and if the Rapture is to take place this Pentecost, on Sat., Sivan 7 (June 10), his vantage point for the messages to the seven churches would be May 31, 2000.

The pages of Revelation are bookended by some very interesting statements in the first and last chapters. When the time for the Rapture is "AT HAND," things "MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS." It is interesting to think that Jesus' final assessment of the churches coincides with our days. It makes it read like today's newspaper.

FIRST CHAPTER BOOKEND. Rev. 1:1-3 says, "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants THINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. BLESSED IS HE THAT readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and KEEP those things which are written therein: for THE TIME IS AT HAND."

LAST CHAPTER BOOKEND. Rev. 22:6-10 says, "the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the THINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY BE DONE. Behold, I COME QUICKLY: BLESSED IS HE THAT KEEPETH the sayings of the prophecy of this book. And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for THE TIME IS AT HAND."

If the Rapture time is at hand, both the Rapture and the Tribulation will "shortly come to pass." No wonder Christ signed off with "Surely I come quickly." It seems that he meant within ten days. Whew! he really did write this book for this generation, didn't he.

From Rev. 2 to Rev. 4, I think we have this 10-day period represented. From Rev. 4:1, we are past the 10 days and looking at things from the vantage point of the Rapture. Rev. 17:12-14 says, "the ten horns which thou sawest are TEN KINGS, WHICH HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS YET; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL." Here, we can see that the Rapture has just taken place.

I wish the foolish Laodicean virgins could just understand this one verse. They think they have it made and will be caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture because they believe in Christ. They fail to recognize that we must be "CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL." Faith in Christ will get them into Heaven, but it might be at the second Rapture--with the Tribulation saints, the day the fire falls (Lu. 17:29).

In today's email is this statement from someone who does not understand. He said, "Consider this though our righteousness is in our faith in Christ and He covers us with it, for we are saved by grace through faith and not of ourselves...Ephs.2:8 How then can you through scriptures divide a group of believers based on their actions other than faith?"

Rev. 3:16 has not sunk in yet. It says, "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue (emesai, vomit) thee out of my mouth." Of course, we are saved by faith, not works, but we need to demonstrate our faith by our works.

James 2:17-26 says, "Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and BY WORKS WAS FAITH MADE PERFECT? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."

Salvation is free, but we can work for rewards. A major one is to win the PRIZE of being caught up in the first Rapture. In I Cor. 9:24-27, Paul said, "Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth THE PRIZE? So run, that ye may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY." Laodicean foolish virgins are in danger of being castaways--and they don't know it. They are blind, have eyes, but can't see.

In Phil. 3:11-14, Paul also said, "If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for THE PRIZE OF THE HIGH CALLING (i.e., the 'Come up hither' at the Pre-Trib Rapture) of God in Christ Jesus."

Jesus told us to "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." Paul wanted to be worthy, and I want to be worthy. The PRIZE is the great ESCAPE.

Rev. 22:10-12 says, " And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for THE TIME IS AT HAND (i.e., it is Ascension Day). He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his WORK shall be."

In the parable of the ten virgins, I wonder if the cry "Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him" (Mt. 25:6) could come on Ascension Day. The wise do not give the foolish any oil at that point. Is that the time to let the unjust be unjust still? Just in case, let's do all we can this month. Those that are "READY" go "with him to the marriage" (Mt. 25:10).

In Rev. 3:8, Jesus tells the Philadelphian wise virgins, "I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an OPEN DOOR, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name." It looks like Heaven's door opens on Ascension Day. James 5:9 says, "Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge (Christ) standeth before the DOOR."

Rev. 4:1 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a DOOR was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter" (after the Rapture). After the first Rapture, the door will be shut, as in Noah's Ark. Mt. 25:10 says, "And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were READY went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut."

We see quickly that a door is involved with the second Rapture too. Rev. 3:20 says to the foolish Laodicean virgins that get spewed out and left behind, "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." Song of Sol. 5:2-6 describes what happens to the foolish virgins that take too long to get ready. It says. "I sleep, but my heart waketh: it is the voice of my beloved that KNOCKETH, saying, Open to me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled: for my head is filled with dew, and my locks with the drops of the night. I have put off my coat; how shall I put it on? I have washed my feet; how shall I defile them? My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the DOOR, and my bowels were moved for him. I rose up to open to my beloved; and my hands dropped with myrrh, and my fingers with sweet smelling myrrh, upon the handles of the lock. I opened to my beloved (too late); but my beloved had withdrawn himself, and was gone: my soul failed when he spake: I sought him, but I could not find him; I called him, but he gave me no answer." We don't want to be in this group. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Much appreciated incoming email

I am so excited, as are so many Christians, about the Rapture. I am so much looking forward to it, whenever it occurs.

It is all about Jesus, and restoration, and the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, and meeting God, but even so, you are yourself going to be quite sought after by the many whom God has touched through you.

I look forward to meeting you and your family in the Heavenlies myself. Even so, I am not trying to make you a celebrity. I'm just saying, it'll be so great. Though it will surely pale in comparison to seeing Jesus face to face.

God bless you and your family and friends. Your brother in Christ, PS: NO RESPONSE NEEDED

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I happened across your web site and read your predictions of timing of events to come. I very muh want to believe your scenario. I have reasearched many sites reading their thoughts and am honestly very confused. I pray to the Lord for insight into this rapture, tribulation business and am no further ahead than I was years ago. You can read anything from there is no God to your feelings. I've read most of the New Testament and honestly can't make heads or tails of a lot of things. I've used study guide after study guide to assist me and it hasn't helped. Who do I believe. So many preachers, prophets etc. seem to be in it for the money, not for saving souls. They live in very expensive houses, drive very expensive cars, and wear very expensive clothes and paid for from the money they had received from their "partners" who they have diluded into thinking they have the answer. Confused

My reply

I read man's books about the Bible for 7 years, about an 18" stack every week from BIOLA's Seminary Collection. They provided me a solid basic background for studying the Bible. However, I could not get all my questions answered that way. I opened my Bible, laid my hands on it and said, "Lord! you'll have to show me. I want to know everything you want man to know about the Bible--everything, all the deep things." From that point on, I used Strong's Concordance, Gesenius' and Thayer's Lexicons, Green's Interlinear and every version of the Bible I could get my hands on. I learned things that I could not learn from reading what man wrote about the Bible. I learned so fast during the next 7 years that I felt like I had a tiger by the tail--and I am still learning. I have been studying as hard as I can go since before 1960.

By this time, I know what I believe and why I believe it. If the Scripture says something, I believe it. I consider it error-proof rock-hard truth in the original editions.

You need to know what you believe the Bible says, before you pay too much attention to what other people say. There all kinds of wild ideas out there to confuse you unless you are well schooled in Scripture first. Don't worry about what some preachers are doing. The Lord is the judge of all. Leave that to Him.

Do pay attention to what you are doing to understand Scripture. First and foremost, confess any sins committed since you accepted Christ. That will get rid of any sin barrier between you and God. Then, when you are in fellowship and filled with His Holy Spirit, you will suddenly understand Scripture as you never have before. Ask the Lord to show you what it means and to give you understanding. He is probably just waiting for you to ask.

Read the NT first. That shows you what a wonderful thing Christ did for us. Without Him, we would be sunk. It shows you how to walk the Christian walk, one step at a time. Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 17 and 21 are prophetic. Other prophetic passages are scattered throughout. When you get to the last book in the Bible, The Revelation of Jesus Christ, it is all prophecy. It is an outline into which you can insert prophecies from the Old Testament to keep them in order. Most of it is going to happen in our days, starting with the Pre-Trib Rapture. The 7-year Tribulation follows our being caught up to Heaven in the Rapture. Another Rapture, the Pre-Wrath Rapture will catch up the Tribulation Saints on the 2300th day (Daniel 8:14).

That 2300th day is the most eventful day ever. It is the end of the shortened Tribulation. It is Christ's Coronation Day, the day of the Marriage of the Lamb, the Judgment Seat of Christ and of the Marriage Supper of the Lamb--and that's just in Heaven. On Earth, it is the day Israel is attacked by Gog's army (Ezekiel 38), the Day of God's Wrath (Rev. 8f) and the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord.

There are two main men in power over the World Government and the World Church during the Tribulation. Each is allotted 1260 days. The Beast of Rev. 13:2-10 rules the first 1260 days. The False Prophet of Rev. 13:11-18 rules the second 1260 days. However, he is deposed from office on the Day of God's Wrath. He is Satan-possessed, so Satan operates on his own from that point to the end of Armageddon, when he is chained for 1000 years.

From the Day of God's Wrath to the Second Coming of Christ is 7 Jewish months (Ezekiel 39:12). Following his return will be the Judgment of the Nations and Armageddon.

Now, maybe as you read, you can see how events fit into this framework. Don't delay for the first Rapture may be coming up soon. As you have questions, don't hesitate to ask. I'll do my best to help you understand. Agape

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The secret message of Fatima has finally been revealed after all these years. Why now? Could it be that this message has now been revealed so as to lend credibility to a message related to Fatima that will be revealed in the near future? In other words, it looks like something big is about to happen. According to Fatima, if I am not mistaken, the remaining living participant will release a prophecy concerninng a major future event a short time before it happens. Are we being prepared for the coming of this prophecy? And, is the Fatima vision legitimate or a demonic counterfeit? Anyway you look at it, it seems that something major will soon take place. I think those who follow your site have a fairly good idea of what that event might be.

My reply

I don't think these apparitions are from God. They are saying this message came to pass in the attempted assassination of the Pope in 1981. Agape

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Subject: Hashemite Kingdom and the Little Horn
Lately I have asked you a few questions regarding the "little horn" and I appreciate your patience and prompt responses. I have also corresponded with another "prophecy scholar" and learned something I had not previously heard and wanted to share it with you and your visitors. Do you concur with this viewpoint? God Bless You

His website is He said: First, John 5:43: I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Judaism 101, Hashem = "The Name" I am come in my Father's name (Hashem), and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name (Hashem-ite), him ye will receive.

Hashemite King today is the 43rd generation direct descendant of the Prophet Mohammed... Coincidence? Not when you look at all the scripture. No scripture is for private interpretation - The tapestry has to be viewed from far off first, then zoom in on it so you don't get lost - you will see close up that there are no threads loose, but only if you study a complete tapestry.

The God of the Hashemite King's father is Allah! So, having this false religious leader under his control, he doesn't regard Allah, neither does he need women - as the Antichrist, he is now demon possessed, and has more on his mind than a roll in the hay.

My reply

> > Do you concur with this viewpoint?

Not at all. I have already read his web site and do not agree with him.

> John 5:43: I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: > if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. > > Judaism 101, Hashem = "The Name" > I am come in my Father's name (Hashem), and ye receive me not: if another > shall come in his own name (Hashem-ite), him ye will receive.

Jesus came in his Father's name. His name is Yahshua in Hebrew. Yah is short for YHVH, Yahweh, and appears in that form sometimes in the OT. Shua means saves. Yahshua means Yah saves. "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself" (II Cor. 5:19).

Hashem, the Name, has nothing to do with Jesus' name. It is just something the Jews say because they do not want to pronounce the name of God. When they come to YHVH in the OT, they say Adoni (Lord) or Hashem. Our English translators put LORD for YHVH.

Does it matter? To me, it does, because it obscures the truth of who Christ really is. For instance, Isa. 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHVH) the King of Israel, and his redeemer (Christ) the LORD (YHVH) of hosts; I am the first (YHVH King of Israel), and I am the last (YHVH of hosts); and beside me there is no God." Christ is YHVH of hosts. Our translations tend to obscure it.

In Rev. 1:8, Jesus said, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY." In Rev. 1:17, He said, "Fear not; I am the first and the last." In Rev. 22:13, he gives one last chance for it to sink in. He says, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning AND the end, the first AND the last." The pre-incarnate Christ was the LORD of the OT. The incarnate Christ is the Lord of the NT. Jn. 10:30 says, "I and my Father are one," and they are.

It all comes clear in Isa. 48:16-18: " Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD (the Father), and his Spirit (the Spirit of God), hath sent me (Christ). Thus saith the LORD (YHVH), thy Redeemer (Christ), the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD (YHVH) thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. O that thou hadst hearkened to MY COMMANDMENTS (at Sinai)! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea."

Isa. 9:6 says, "For unto us a child is born (inheriting his humanity from his mother), unto us a son is given (inheriting his deity from his Father): and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

I think the False Prophet will be a Jew, probably of the tribe of Dan. In Rev. 13:11, he comes up out of the earth (i.e., eretz Israel, the land of Israel). The Beast comes out of the sea (nations, Rev. 17:15). Agape

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Re: How are you?
How's life? Still trying to calculate the exact second, minute, hour, day, and year the lamb roast will be ready at the Marriage Supper? How's your End-Times calendar working out? What do you think? Any new pointers towards the 2nd coming or what? Any plans for a new book?

My reply

I'm fine, but busy. And you? Are you ready?

I am hoping for the Rapture this Pentecost. It looks like the 10 days of Rev. 2:10 run from the anniversary of Jesus' Ascension Day to Pentecost. That is how it can be determined that their tribulation will definitely end in 10 days. Therefore, Jesus' assessment of the 7 churches presented in Rev. 2 and 3 probably takes place on Ascension Day. If the Rapture is to take place on this Pentecost, the view of the state of the churches might be from this May 31st. Read them over with the present day in mind. See what you understand that was hazy before.

Rev. 2:5 says, "I will come unto thee quickly." I thought that meant the Rapture would be quick, and I still think it will be. However "quickly" here just may have another meaning too. It may mean that he would come within 10 days of the date of this bird's eye view. It is repeated in 3:11. The deeds of the Nicolaitans would apply to today. The crown of life promised in 2:10 would be given at the Rapture just 10 days away. A crown is also mentioned in 3:11: "Hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown" would mean hang in there right now. Where Satan's seat is would mean today, not some time in the dim past. The warning to watch in 3:3 might mean to watch especially close these last 10 days. The OPEN DOOR of Rev. 3:8 may have just opened, and will only stay open 10 days. The warning to get white garments given to Laodicea may be a last 10-day warning, i.e., get them right now.

Read them and see what you think.

I have over 5000 pages on my Web site. I don't think there is time to get a book published. Agape

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I have enjoyed reading all your material, but this is the one concept I have had a hard time with.

However, consider this: what if the rapture is not to Saturn (a gas giant) but instead it is supernatural transportation to a supernaturally terraformed TITAN. As you know, Titan is Saturn's largest moon, at over 5,000Km in diameter it is earth-sized. It is one of the few extraterrestrial bodies with a dense atmosphere, in this case, nitrogen. Perhaps this is where the wedding feast is, and where we will receive our instructions and assignments for the coming millennium.

Is there any biblical evidence that the first fruits rapture will not go to heaven immediately, but will wait in a place like this for the main harvest rapture to catch up with them 7 years later? Agape.

My reply

I really think we will wait on Heaven itself. Isa. 57:1,2 says, "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come. He shall enter into peace: they shall REST IN THEIR BEDS, each one walking in his uprightness." Job 5:24 says, "And thou shalt know that thy tabernacle shall be in peace; and thou shalt VISIT THY HABITATION, and shalt not sin."

Psa. 100 (the Psalm that some think speaks of the year 2000) says, "Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all ye lands. Serve the LORD with gladness: COME BEFORE HIS PRESENCE with singing (as the new song is sung after the Rapture, Rev. 5:9). Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture. ENTER INTO HIS GATES with thanksgiving, and INTO HIS COURTS with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name. For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations."

Mk. 13:27 says, "And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth (the Pre-Wrath Rapture) to THE UTTERMOST PART OF HEAVEN" (those that went there in the Pre-Trib Rapture). That might leave room for us to space travel, except that the uttermost part of the earth indicates confinement to the planet Earth. Therefore, I take the uttermost part of heaven to be confined to the planet Heaven.

I think Saturn has a surface under all that atmosphere. It could not be referred to as a rock otherwise. Someone wrote me about Saturn saying, "NASA thermo imaging satilites can see the surface." I asked for a source of this information, but have not received one. As far as I know, the astronomers don't know for sure. As for me, I just accept what I think the Bible indicates.

Isa. 66:1 says, "Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool." The Heaven sounds like it is in our solar system, or Earth could not easily be pictured as his footstool.

I have wondered about Saturn's moons too. They are part of Saturn's entourage. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if astronomers find a 24th moon, either. Last I heard, they were officially at 22 and counting, expecting more. There is so much that is only hinted at. Psa. 17:8 says, "Keep me as the apple of the eye, hide me under the SHADOW OF THY WINGS." Does that mean under the ring shadow? There is much to wonder about. New Jerusalem coming down, probably to orbit Earth, is another mystery. That sounds as if it is within our solar system too. Is it our permanent home, or just our home during the Millennium? It is going to be fun finding answers to our questions. One thing we do know, where the Lord is, there we will be also. If his throne is in Heaven, our home is there also.

Jn. 14:2-4 is interesting to ponder. WE KNOW THE PLACE WHERE JESUS WENT. It says, " In my Father's house are many mansions (dwelling places): if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place (singular) for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And WHITHER I GO YE KNOW, and the way ye know." The ancients knew of all the planets from Mercury to Saturn.

Ezekiel's visions in 1 and 10 depict the throne planet above the heads of the cherubim. I think the cherubim are the terrestrial planets. Earth is one of them, and all have red clay ("adam") on them. Right there, we are left with only Jupiter and Saturn to consider as the morning star promised to the overcomers of the churches in Rev. 2:28. Ezekiel saw brightness round about Heaven like a rainbow. A rainbow is made up of sunlight on ice crystals. So is Saturn's ring system. The Concordant version says in v. 22," as sparkling ice in appearance." Eze. 1:26 indicates that the throne planet is "as the appearance of a sapphire stone." Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. What other alternative do we have? Agape

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