Pro and Con 519

Posted 5-29-00

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Re: UN roll out of world government
FWD: From: Rev. Curt Tomlin
"...on Saturday, 2 September 2000...the United Nations Millennium Assembly plans to celebrate...the arrival of the new One World Government (OWG) under the U.N.

This particular UN assembly will be the largest gathering of heads of states ever assembled in the history of the world. This assembly has been carefully designed to change the world forever and will set the world on a course of global governance under the authority of the United Nations.

The new scheme of global governance will empower, and fund, the United Nations to be the supreme governmental authority on the planet."

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From P&C 515:
[Incoming email] Verses 10 & 11 [Rev] talk of a star falling from heaven burning as though it were a lamp and the name given it was "WORMWOOD" this translated in Russian means ( and I hope I spell it right)"CHURNOBLE" which I'm sure you remember.

[Your reply]***But this doesn't impact Russia. Russia does get wild fires though. One piece as big as a mountain hits the Mediterranean Sea (Zeph. 2:4,5). The larger piece destroys Babylon on the Euphrates River. Rev. 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a STONE like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

Your statement of "But this doesn't impact Russia. Russia does get wild fires though", is not necessarily true. If you plot the path of the asteroid that comes out of the north and hits in the Mediterranean south of Crete, it goes directly over Chernobyl. The prophets give much detail as to damage done by trailing debris. Cities around the southern end of the dead sea are burned up as one of the large chunks of debris goes overhead on its impact with Mt. Seir, which is totally wiped off the face of the earth.

There are also several references about the damage done by debris hitting in Elam (north of Babylon) from the piece of the asteroid that turns Babylon into an eternal wasteland of fiery pitch.

Therefore, I feel that debris WILL fall on the Chernobyl nuclear plant and the fallout will poison all the waters as so described in Revelation. I could never make myself believe that it is just a coincidence that the only asteroid in the Bible that is given a specific name that just happens to be the same name as a leaking nuclear plant that has ALREADY poisoned the waters in the region, and just so happens to be DIRECTLY under the known flight path of the asteroid that God uses to destroy the armies headed by Gog who just happens to come from the country where Chernobyl is located. In my opinion, it would require much more faith to believe that this is just a coincidence that to believe it was a prophetic naming....Agape

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Thanks for everything. I sure appreciate your filling me in on this. You have done much more research on this subject than anyone I know.

Isa. 28:19 says, "From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report." We know that rocks weighing around 100 lbs. will be falling too (Rev. 16:21). I can't even imagine the total damage to this world. In the worldwide earthquake, every wall will fall (Eze. 38:20). What will happen to other nuclear plants world wide? It is awful to contemplate.

> > Mt. Seir, which is totally wiped off the face of the earth

The saints will just make it out of Petra in the nick of time. Fire falls that same day (Lu. 17:29). No wonder God will " wipe away tears from off all faces" (Isa. 25:8) after the Pre-Wrath Rapture.

Jer. 49:17,18 says, "Edom shall be a desolation: every one that goeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss at all the plagues thereof. As in the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD, no man shall abide there, neither shall a son of man dwell in it."

Do you know what Psa. 108:9 means? It says, "Moab is my washpot; over Edom will I CAST OUT MY SHOE; over Philistia will I triumph."

Ruth 4:7,8 says, "Now this was the manner in former time in Israel CONCERNING REDEEMING and CONCERNING CHANGING, for TO CONFIRM ALL THINGS; A MAN PLUCKED OFF HIS SHOE, AND GAVE IT TO HIS NEIGHBOR: and this was a testimony in Israel. Therefore the kinsman said unto Boaz, Buy it for thee. So he DREW OFF HIS SHOE."

Night before last, I completed DL the last 40 files from Xoom. Now I have all my Web site in a Zip file on the new PC. When I open a file, it comes up as in the browser. I can look at the Source if I want to with one more click....Agape

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Subject: A Return to the Fray.
Thank you for your email and the questions....I have done my best to answer them in the light of the scriptures, as I see them. I could be wrong but the Lord led me to a Pastor who knows the word of God better than any man I have ever met and he is of the opinion that my understanding of the 'end times' prophecies is right on. Be that as it may. For your perusal I send you what follows: I pray the Lord will richly bless you. I look forward to learning the truth in the near future. What a Glorious thought. Praise the Lord! God Bless you....

> I believe you when you tell me that 2300 days was fulfilled in the days of Antiochus Epiphanes. I just don't shut out the possibility that there could be a double fulfillment, as in so many prophecies.

I think there is a 'second fulfillment' of the 'ACTIONS' of taking away the daily sacrifice and abominating the temple, in the same sequence and by a 'type' of Antiochus. The coming desecrator will be the one Satan 'possesses' at the mid-point of the seven years. However, I cannot 'fit' the 2300 days into the tribulation without ignoring time factors specifically assigned to that period and have been forced to conclude the 2,300 days is not a part of the 'second fulfillment'.

***From Marilyn: There are 1260 days in the first half of the 70th week of Daniel (Rev. 11:3). There are 1260 days in the last half (Rev. 12:6). Because no flesh would be saved otherwise, the latter 1260 days are to be shortened for the elect's sake (Mt. 24:22). Mk. 13:27 says, "And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth (Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Tribulation saints) to the uttermost part of heaven (the Church saints, who were taken up in the Pre-Trib Rapture)." This assembly is in Heaven. We know that the Day of God's Wrath is on the Feast of Trumpets. The Tribulation saints are caught up in Rev. 7:14, between the breaking of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12) and the breaking of the 7th seal (Rev. 8).

***One 40-year generation from the Sign of the End of the Age, the Six-Day War of 1967, ends in 2007. Counting backward 2300 days from the Feast of Trumpets in 2007 (Tishri 1, 5768), by Jewish inclusive reckoning, brings us to Sivan 6, 5761, the Feast of Weeks, a perfect time for the 70th week of Daniel to begin. Can you think of a better time for the 70th week of Daniel to begin? God works logically.

> What scares you so greatly about looking into that possibility?

I have looked! Now, dear lady, I ask you to consider other possibilities.

***You are not looking now. You are sidestepping the issue.

> Jesus viewed the Tribulation from the vantage point of the time when the Rapture is "at hand." Look at Rev. 1:3 and 22:10. It is "at hand" in both the first and last chapters.

The "at hand" of Rev 1:3 has been "at hand" for over 1,900 years, since the time the visions were given to John and the "at hand" of Rev. 22:10 will be a little more than 1,000 years beyond. In God's eyes, to whom 'a thousand years is as a day and a day as a thousand years', the first "at hand" was less that two days and the second "at hand" less than 3 days away from the time the visions were given to John. I think both are "at hand" without being the same "at hand".

***The Revelation of Jesus Christ is when we see him at the Rapture. He will be revealed to us then. The book telling us about his revelation was written as if it was written now, when the Rapture is "at hand." I think it is "at hand" on Ascension Day, 10 days before Pentecost. Thus, the 10 days of Rev. 2:10 could run out on Pentecost.

***The "at hand" of Rev. 22:10 has to be the same "at hand" as in Rev. 1:3, because in the next verse, Jesus is talking about his coming at the Rapture. He said, "behold, I come QUICKLY; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be." Rev. 22:20 is referring to the Rapture. It says, "He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come QUICKLY. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus." He comes quickly at the Rapture. In Rev. 3:11 Jesus tells the Philadelphian church, "Behold, I come QUICKLY: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

> You say you believe the Bible is true. Would you persist a little longer?

Thanks be to the Lord, I have had an opportunity to study the Bible, in depth, and would like to say I am absolutely convinced the Bible is the LITERAL Word of God. I was recently trying to get an understanding of the 'angels who left their first estate' (Jude) and have come to the realization that this fits right in with the actions of the "Sons of God" in Genesis. It all fits together, perfectly, when we rightly divide the word. Only God could have known it all, directed the records that were made and ensured that they remained 'undefiled' until the present day. The Bible, itself, I think, is a Miracle. Praise the Lord!

> 1) How long will "the daily sacrifice, AND the transgression of desolation" last? Dan. 8:11-13

In the KJV and in Young's Literal Translation 8:11&12 are part of the first paragraph and 8:13, along with 8:14 (the 2300 days) are part of the second paragraph. This, to me, separates the two 'thoughts' so that 8:13&14 do not, refer, directly, to 8:11 & 12

***Just because translators put in paragraphs and punctuation marks does not mean they were there in the original.

I think the daily sacrifice will start immediately after the Temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem. We do not know when that will be. (I do know, however, everything, including the pots, basins, utensils, etc, that is required for temple service is ready and that there is at least one red heifer available. This will make it possible for priests to be sanctified on short notice.) I think the daily sacrifice will start shortly after the rapture but it could happen before. It will be stopped at the mid-point of the 7 years and I think the "transgression of desolation" will last during the final 'shortened' 45 days.

> 2) How much time is required to "take away the daily sacrifice" and "place the abomination that maketh desolate" ? > Dan. 11:31 says, "And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall POLLUTE THE SANCTUARY of strength, AND SHALL TAKE AWAY THE DAILY SACRIFICE, AND THEY SHALL PLACE THE ABOMINATION THAT MAKETH DESOLATE."

I do not know. The time 'required' to 'take away' the one and the time 'required' to 'place' the other will depend on the circumstances that exist when either of the two actions are taken. I can see no reference to such 'time' in the Bible but I do not think the time 'required' to effect either of these two actions is important.

***I believe the pollution of the sanctuary, the taking away of the daily sacrifice, and the placing of the abomination takes place on one day, when Satan is cast out of Heaven, enters into the False Prophet and "sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (II Thess. 2:4). The 1260-day ministry (Rev. 11:3) of the two witnesses has just ended. Now, the Satan-possessed False Prophet can and does kill them.

> (3) Do the 1290 days of Dan. 12:11 begin at one point in time? If so, when is it? Dan. 12:11 says, "And FROM the time that the DAILY SACRIFICE shall be taken away, AND the ABOMINATION THAT MAKETH DESOLATE set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days."

I think the 1290 days (of Dan. 12:11) and the 1260 days (of the second half of the last seven years) begin at the same point in time but the 'time' that the ABOMINATION THAT MAKETH DESOLATE is set up occurs 1290 days AFTER the start of the second half of the last seven years.

***That would make the abomination set up AFTER CHRIST'S RETURN. In my eyes, there would be no way Christ would allow it after his return. I think Christ will return on Nisan 1, seven months (Eze. 39:12) after the Day of God's Wrath on Tishri 1. For there to be 7 months between these dates, it must be a Jewish Leap Year. 5768 (2007/2008) is a Jewish Leap Year.

***There are three sets of days that start at Mid-Trib, 1260, 1290, and 1335. The Seventieth Week of Daniel ends on the 1260th day. Don't you think the abomination that maketh desolate takes place within the Seventieth Week of Daniel? You are hanging it outside the Tribulation--30 days after the full 7 years end. Is that reasonable?

> (4) When do the Jews flee? and when do "those days" that will be shortened begin? Mt. 24:15,21,22 says, "When ye therefore shall see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, STAND IN THE HOLY PLACE,(whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea FLEE into the mountains....For then shall be GREAT TRIBULATION, SUCH AS WAS NOT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD TO THIS TIME, NO, NOR EVER SHALL BE. And except THOSE DAYS SHOULD BE SHORTENED, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake THOSE DAYS SHALL BE SHORTENED." > (5) Which count of days is to be shortened? 1260? 1290? 1335?

I think there are three flights of the Jews following the rapture and I think this, the last one, will apply 1290 days after the mid-point of the 7 years. During the days that follow, the 45 days (1335-1290), I think the vials will be poured out. When I consider the severity of if the plagues of the first 4 vials I can see that Mk. 13:20 applies, very definitely. I think these days, the 45 days, is the 'count of days' that will be shortened so those who have been ''elected' to enter the millennium in their natural state are saved. Praise the Lord!

***I think it is the 1260 days of Rev. 12:6 that are to be shortened for the sake of the elect that are to be caught up in the Pre-Wrath Rapture. Rev. 12 tells us of Israelites that "keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. They are to be in the heavenly group. On the day of the Pre-Wrath Rapture, the ones that accept Christ too late to make the Rapture will live on into the Millennium on Earth. All Israel will be saved that day. Isa. 66:8 says, "Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children." This day is the Feast of Trumpets. It comes before the Second Advent, before the end of the 1260 days, before the end of the 1290 days, before the end of the 1335 days.

--- Intermission ---
The next section you introduce is Revelation 12. This is a most interesting chapter. I think it gives us a 'bird's eye' view of the whole history of the nation of Israel God's chosen people; of how Satan has been attacking them and will continue until the end but they will, I am sure, occupy the whole of the land that was promised to them during the millennium and it will be from their temple in Jerusalem that Our Lord, Jesus Christ, will rule and reign for the 1,000 years. Praise the Lord!

***You omitted explaining the 1260 days of Rev. 12. All of Israel's history won't fit into the 1260 days. That is just 3.5 years.

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> Rev. 12:6,14 says, "And the woman (Israel) FLED into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AN THREESCORE DAYS....And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might FLY into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time (3.5 years), from the face of the serpent."

I do not know what you are asking with respect to these scripture but I hope you realize that verses 6 and 14 refer to two different 'flights'.

***I think the 1260 days explains the time, times, and half a time, and that they are the last 3.5 years of the Tribulation. The Jews flee in the middle of the Tribulation when the abomination of desolation is placed at the temple. Believing Israel is flown "into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time (3.5 years), from the face of the serpent" (Rev. 12:14). I don't see how 6 and 14 could possible refer to 2 different flights.

> (6) Will resurrected Daniel have to wait until the full end of the 1335 days to stand in his own plot of land in Israel? Dan. 12:13 says, "But go thou thy way till THE END be: for thou shalt rest and stand in thy lot at THE END OF THE DAYS." > (7) Will Daniel stand in his lot before or after the Second Advent?

I think Daniel will have to wait until the Lord returns in Glory and establishes His 1,000 year reign and that this will occur shortly before the end of the 1335 days. I don't know if Daniel will have to wait till the 'full end of the 1335 days' or not. Possibly not. However, I do know he will do so, someday, when the land is divided 'by lot' as Ezekiel says. Praise the Lord!

***I think the land will be divided by lot on the 1335th day. That is why Daniel will stand in his lot on the 1335th day.

***When exactly do you think Christ will return? According to Eze. 39:12, there are 7 Jewish months between the Day of God's Wrath and Christ's return in glory. According to Hos. 6:3; Eze. 29:17,21, he will come as the latter rain on Nisan 1. Since there are 7 months between the Day of God's Wrath and the Second Advent, the Day of God's Wrath is on Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets, in a Jewish Leap Year. ---
> > Subject: A Return to the Fray

Is that what it is? I thought it might be Bible study. I hoped that you were open minded enough to look at the scriptures again and see if they really indicate what you think they do. Where does search and see if these things are so fit in? Agape

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I have been reading your site for about 6 months and agree with a lot of the things that you say. However, I have to disagree with the thought of Saturn being heaven. I believe that Saturn may be God's physical representation of Heaven (Symbol) but not the actual place. I will let the Bible do the talking.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the HEAVENS shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

***From Marilyn: You seem to be confusing Heaven with the heavens. I put it the word in caps above. Look at it again. On the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord, what is probably a binary asteroid that breaks apart will impact Earth. One piece as big as a great mountain will hit the Mediterranean Sea (Rev. 8:8,10). Another piece, called a star, will destroy Babylon on the Euphrates. Other rocks, weighing about 100 lbs., will come in blazing. Both elements on Earth and in the atmosphere will be blasted into space. In the worldwide earthquake, every wall will fall (Eze. 38:20). Civilization as we know it will be destroyed.

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

***Green's Interlinear has "The SKY and the earth will pass away..."

Mark 13:31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

***Just as God refreshed the face of the Earth to make it a fit habitation for Adam, and later Noah, the Lord will refresh the heavens and the Earth to make it a fit habitation for Adam's descendants during the Millennium. Isa. 51:6 says, "Lift up your eyes to the HEAVENS, and look upon the earth beneath: for the HEAVENS shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished."

***Psa. 102:25-28 says, "Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the HEAVENS are the work of thy hands. They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture (outer covering) shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end. The children of thy servants shall continue, and their seed shall be established before thee." The FACE of the Earth and its atmospheric heavens will be refreshed, changed as one would put on a new robe.

***The face of the Earth is what was renewed in Adam's day. This will be the same. The atmosphere will be renewed. The air will become healthy to breathe. The land will green with grass, herbs and trees. The poisoned water will be made pure. This probably accounts for the longevity of life during Adam's day and in the Millennium. Now, our Earth is being stripped of some of its minerals we need in our food and its waters are growing more polluted each day.

***Before Adam was placed on Earth, I think a piece of the split planet, Rahab, impacted Earth. It excavated the Moon material from the Pacific Basin and punched up mountains around the perimeter. It left us with the unstable Ring of Fire around the Pacific Ocean. The face of the Earth had to be renovated.

***Before the Second Adam returns to Earth, I think another piece of Rahab will impact Earth. Again, the Lord will have to renew the face of the Earth, provide a "new" heavens and a "new" Earth.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

***Rev. 21:1 literally says, "I saw a new (kainos, NEW IN FRESHNESS) heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away (parerchomai, carried past their prime, neglected); and there was no more sea."

***The sea here is symbolic, as it is in Rev. 13:1. The Beast rises up out of the sea/nations. Rev. 17:1,15 explains, " I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters...The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." During the Millennium, there will be seas. The Lord "shall have dominion also FROM SEA TO SEA, and from the river unto the ends of the earth" (Psa. 72:8).

***II Peter 3:5-7 says, " by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was (from Adam to Noah), being overflowed with water, perished (apoleto, was destroyed or marred on the surface): But the HEAVENS (atmospheric) and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."

Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

I do believe this Heaven and Earth is going to pass away. What do you think?

***I think Heaven and Earth will exist forever. Psa. 104:5 says, "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever." Abraham was told that his seed would possess the land forever. Heaven is the same way. When the planets wax old, they will refreshed as if God put a new coat on them. It is clear that II Peter 3:10-13 is talking about that portion of the atmospheric heavens that shall "pass away."

***It says, " But the day of the Lord (the Millennium) will come as a thief in the night; in the which the HEAVENS (atmospheric) shall pass away (parerchomai, be carried past, be neglected, i.e., go past their prime) with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the HEAVENS being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new HEAVENS and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."

***The same word translated "pass away" above is used in II Cor. 5:17. It says, "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are PASSED AWAY; behold, all things are BECOME NEW." It is the same with the heavens and the Earth. They will be damaged, but will be made new, fresh, Eden-like. Earth will be renovated. It has been renovated in the past, and it will be renovated in the future.

***The Pre-Wrath Rapture happens the same day as this asteroid impact. 2 Sam. 22:7-17 says, " In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried to my God: and he did hear my voice out of his temple, and my cry did enter into his ears. Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven (Earth's atmosphere) moved and shook, because he was wroth. There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it. He BOWED (with a rainbow) the heavens also (i.e., as Saturn is ringed), and came down; and darkness was under his feet. And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind. And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies. Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled. The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice. And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them. And the channels of the sea (the Mediterranean, Zeph. 2:4,5) appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the BLAST of the breath of his nostrils. He sent from above, HE TOOK ME; he drew me out of many waters." The waters probably mean nations here too.

Thanks for all your hard work. Love and Peace in Christ. What a great time to be alive. C-ya in the clouds
***Yes. It is exciting to see the prophecies being fulfilled right before our eyes. Agape

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I am curious to know if people in other towns are experiencing a series of deaths in their area. Our very small town and surrounding towns in Missouri are seeing people dying in cars accidents like never before. This week alone two people on my road died, they were 27 and 20 years old in separate accidents. A lady at church's niece died in a car accident with another friend. The town seems to be attending funerals every night.

We've also seen troubles of sickness and family troubles. I realize in a big city this goes on all the time, but around here it is very usual to have so many at once.

I follow politics quite a bit and the corruption and cover up is unbelievable. The schools are totally insane and so it the military. It seems like no one know what truth is anymore. My husband and I know of so many people that lie every time they open their mouth. If the Lord wasn't coming real soon, I would be afraid for my children. This world is just like it was in the days of Noah, violence is everywhere and the evil is horrendous.

Let's all look up, our Lord and Savior draweth nigh. Come Lord Jesus Come. God Bless

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Subject: Re: July 7, 2000 Rapture?/Food for Thought
After some reflection:
Yes, by the way we define Spring and Summer then after June 20th would be Summer. But if Jim Bramlett's note is correct then maybe the Jew's would be having a late Summer since their festivals and harvests are tied to their calendar and Sivan 6/7 should be before they traditionally started Summer.

After more reflection:
Chuck Missler's "Cosmic Codes" brings up the number 49 or 7 times 7 on page 126, as being the skip sequence for the word Torh starting with the first appearance of the first letter in the word Torh in Genesis and Exodus. In Numbers and Deuteronomy the same phenomenom occurs but with Torh spelled backwords. In Leviticus it doesn't appear but at the square root of 49 or 7, the name of God, YHWH, is found. "It appears that the Torah always points toward the Ineffable Name of God!" It goes on to show more appearances of 49 letter intervals. But more important to quote from the book, "In Leviticus 23:17 we discover that the Israelites were required to count 49 days from the Feast of First Fruits until the celebration of the Feast of Weeks, or Shavout, (also called the Feast of Pentecost); this was called the "counting the omer.""

Now I know you knew most of this but I just realized that Sivan in Hebrew would be spelled without the vowels because the vowels are inferred. So one could infer Sivan as Seven. Sivan 7 (Pentecost) could be Seven Seven. Seven Sevens is 49. Likewise regarding July 7, we in the English speaking world routinely abbreviate as 7-7. So while it is July 7th (7-7) over here it will be Sivan 7 (7-7) in Jerusalem. Seven Sevens in both languages! This is like the Seven good years and Seven bad years regarding the 1993 Oslo Accords coming to the same date on both calendars! Food for Thought!

My reply

Since the Jewish Calendar is regulated by the Sun, Moon and seasons, I don't think Pentecost can be July 7, 2000. I think it has to be truly in the spring. Agape

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