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Posted 6-1-00

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Here is the amended version of "dates to watch for" with a letter I wrote to include - I intend to leave copies for friends and family to help them know what is coming...this being VERY optimistic! I too am still working out my salvation in fear and trembling and am not certain that I will attain the honour of being His Bride. But I ache to be in her if His Righteousness and Grace will cover my sins which I trust they do...if posted it might help others.

He is very Close now

June 26th - heads of Worlds Religions will meet to sign the Global World Religion Charter.....people are being asked to sign it already on the internet.

Saturday 2nd September the United Nations Millenium Assembly will celebrate the arrival of the new ³One World Government² under the UN.!!!!

Jesus is very close to returning now as Israel has it's talks coming up September 13th 2000 to decide how to divide it's territories and statehood. The powers that be are all vying for their bit. Yassa Arafat, the Pope and world governments etc. It seems that Israel will give statehood to the Palestinians in exchange for the Mount and the right to rebuild the Lords Holy Temple. Yassa Arafat is already declaring Palestine will be an international state!!! He has just had talks with the Pope so it could all be decided already for all we know. The Jews however have everything in place to build their Temple. The Mayor of Jerusalem and other important people have just recently made a video named ³The building of the Last Days Temple² featuring such things as these:- All the materials are ready/the plans drawn up/the artifacts prepared exactly to specification to put in the Temple. The red heifer which they need to sanctify their priests to make the offerings to God. The holy robes for the priests etc. So even the Jewish people know their Messiah is close to returning.

Bible prophecy states that the faithful beleivers have to be removed before that can happen. So that the Antichrist can rise up and the Holy Spirit taken with the beleivers can return to infill the 144.000 Jewish evangelists to preach to the world in the Tribulation. You who are born again and sanctified to God - set apart from before you were even born.

Please make sure that you maintain the purity of spirit that you gained when you gave your life to Jesus by continually(daily) thanking Jesus for dying for you and washing yourself in His Blood(the ONLY thing that cleanses our sins) and asking Him to fill you daily with His Holy Spirit.

The parable ofthe wise and unwise virgins Matthew 25: says that we have to be pure( spiritual virgins- washed white in His Blood) waiting and our lamps full of Oil (the Holy Spirit). If you do these simple things you will be ready when He comes again.

It grieves my spirit to think that you could ever be left behind to go through the terrors to come. Please read these few verses and pray about them.
Matthew 24
Matthew 25:1-13
Mark 13:6-37
Luke 12:34-59 and 17:22-37(talks of the two raptures) one peaceful as in the days of Noah and the second fearsome as in the days of Lot - snatched out of the fire - 7 years later.
Luke 21:8-36
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 5:1-11
2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 ( the term 'falling away' comes from the hebrew meaning a departure, ie: the rapture).
2 Timothy 3: 1-8
Revelations 3:3-12
Luke 13:24-30

If you love me then trust me in these things and spend time quietly talking to Jesus about them. It will cost you nothing but time and could save you untold suffering. Also He will lead you and guide you in the troubled times you live in. When you gave your lives to Jesus you betrothed yourself to Him(engaged). You may have forgotten this but He will never forget it or forsake you. Isaiah 49 : 15-16

Just make sure that satan doesn't steal from you the honour and the joy of being saved before the tribulation and of being in Christ's firstfruits(the best)...those of the first rapture are His Bride. Those of the second, His Body...they are not the same.

Finally if you choose to disreguard all this as crazy - NEVER NEVER NEVER recieve the microchip implant that is coming soon. Not only will it store all your information but it will have a satelite tracking device that will make it impossible to hide from those who will persecute you. And it will disqualify your salvation and guarantee that you spend eternity in Hell(seperated from God and suffering eternally). Revelations 13 : 16-18 (666 = greek 'stigmata' :- to prick) Revelations 14 : 9-11

If you miss rapture 1 then head for the desert places the wilderness areas and live there by faith. The more you live in the world system the greater the degree of persecution you will come under. The Bible is full of verses about how God will protect and feed His people in the Tribulation in the desert places...(ie away from civilization). Get a Bible and live by what it says(in the Tribulation it will be easy to understand because you will be living it daily).

I am so sorry we cannot talk any more. But I must say these thing to you - I would rather hear you say I am crazy than hear you ask "Why didn't you tell us these things?? Make us listen? How could you keep quiet and not spare us the terrible sufferings we went through because of our ingnorance!!!! It was up to you to tell us and put us straight. If you really loved us you would have found a way to reach us."

I pray right now that in the Wonderful and Holy name of YAHshua = YAH(GOD) shua(saves) (Jesus' real Hebrew name)that in and through His Holy Spirit His Truths will be revealed to these people whom He has sanctified and consecrated. YAHVEH since before they were even conceived. That by Your divine will and power they will right now hear and see your truths clearly for the first time. That they might be saved and that You will be glorified in their lives. I ask this Father in YAHshua's Name. And I trust that they are safe in Your Care and that You will perfect the work You have started in their lives. AMEN

I hope to see you soon in Glory
much love in YAHshua (Jesus)

1. Rapture 1 - Song of Solomon 2:10-13 = time frame end of May/early June = Ascension/Pentecost
Matthew 24:32-34 = time frame between 1967 and 2007
2007- 7yrs Tribulation =2000
therefore Rapture 1 must be May/June 2000
Ascension Day 1st June 2000 - Pentecost 2000 = 10th June

2. Introduction of the Mark of the Beast to qwell the hysteria caused by millions of people disappearing and stop the mass frauds caused by the confusion of peoples identities and missing persons?

3. The Holy Spirit returns to earth to infill 144.000 Jews to evangelise the world and to comfort those left behind...they are really listening to Him now.

4. June 26th 2000 the signing of the Global One World Religion Charter.

5. Saturday 2nd September the United Nations Millenium Assembly celebrates arrival of the new ³One World Government² under the UN.

5. September 13th 2000 Israel Land talks the Final Status Peace Agreement dividing the Holy territories etc....agreement to build the new temple?

6. The Last Days Temple to be rebuilt?

7. Tribulation starts May 28th 2001 - Feast of Weeks. Daniels 70th week begins - Final Status Peace Agreements possibly signed on that date. Daniel 9: 27.

8. The Beast = The New Pope who rules for the first 42 months of the Tribulation. Heads the United Nations and the new United Religion and New One World Government - Rev 13:4-8

9. Two witnesses in Revelations are Moses and Elijah returned to earth Pentecost 2001 to prophesy and work miracles. They have the power to False Prophet halfway through the Tribulation when they refuse to worship him in the Temple. They are brought back to life by God and then are raptured. Rev 11:3-13

10. The False Prophet - a Jew - who confirms the Peace Treaty... He takes over from the Beast Rev 13:12 and Rules the Whole Earth. Halfway through the Tribulation he is indwelt by satan and sets himself up in the Temple Rev 12:9. Rev 17:11 He kills the two witnesses mid Tribulation because they refuse to worship him. He now steps up his attack on the Jews and Tribulation Saints - all out persecution. Therefore the second half of the Tribulation is much worse than the first.

11. Rapture 2 is September 13th 2007. Also, Godıs Day of Wrath Ezekial 39:12-13. It takes 7 months to bury the dead before...

12. Christıs Second Coming with all His Saints and Angels - April 6th 2008 Nisan 1 -Ezekial 29:17 + 21(verse 17 sets Nisan1 + verse 21 tells the rest of the story) Hosea 6:3

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Our hospital just got an email from the Regina, Sas. police reporting there has been a rash of HIV infected needles deliberately placed in theatre seats and coin returns of phones and drink machines. The needles have a note saying "you have been infected with HIV," and all needles do test positive for HIV. This has spread to other metropolitan areas.

Just a warning to be careful. They asked us to distribute the information as widely as possible.

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Re: the rapture
I am writing to tell you that you have a very informative website and I enjoy reading your articles. I do have a question for you however. You have seemingly predicted that the rapture would come a couple of times and that concerns me. Do you think that maybe you should just be ready for Jesus and rest assured that the fig tree has blossomed, wherefore He is coming very soon. He did say that knowone knows the day or the hour. Now before you blow me off as a critic, (I love the LORD and I truly feel his coming is very soon), let me say that I tend to believe that the Jewish feasts are extremely important in relation to Christ's return. In fact, I firmly believe that he will come on either Pentecost or Feast of Trumpets, in keeping with God's perfect order of the redemption of mankind. Furthermore, I believe that when the Bible says that he "will come at an hour when you think not.", it goes in line with Jesus saying that when he returns "would he find faith on the earth?" (I don't think he was asking, He was prophetically speaking of the Apostasy of the end time), thereby indicating that the Church, by and large, would be anti-semetic and not paying attention to the feasts of Israel and their prophetic implications. For example, my friend thinks that Pentecost is just a christian term for when the Holy Spirit came, I spent hours arguing with him trying to explain that it was a Jewish Holiday and that Christ had to send the Spirit on that day. I haven't even tried to explain passover and feast of omer etc... it will probably result in the same reaction. Does this make any sense to you? Anyway, don't get me wrong. Jesus is coming very soon, maybe even in the next couple of weeks or months as the "times and seasons" come upon us again. Just remember, that "His ways are not our ways" and that we can't be sure which year He will come. I agree that we are to be kept "from the hour of temptation that will come to try them who dwell upon the earth." but, the Word does not really say how much we will have to endure before the antichrist finally can be revealed. Thank you for your time. Feel free to comment, I would like to hear you thoughts. Love in Christ

My reply

> > You have seemingly predicted that the rapture would come a couple of times

I have never predicted anything. I am not a prophet. I have just studied the Bible as hard as I can go for 40 years and just tell the way it looks to me. 1998 was the 480th year of the Modern Parallels. I think it also was the 6000th year since Adam was cast out of Eden. It was marked for a good reason. Maybe it was the beginning of our "space to repent" (Rev. 2:21). Have you read my Home Page?

> > that knowone knows the day or the hour

Mt. 24:36 says, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." The word "knoweth" is present tense. On that day, no mere man knew. Jesus was not a mere man. He was both man and God. As God, he made the plans before the world began and knew when everything would take place, but as man, he didn't know the day or hour. He probably knew the year, month and day of the month. He worded what I call his delay switch very carefully.

In Acts 1:7,8 Jesus told the apostles, " It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you." After Pentecost, believers have had the power. However, until the Sign of the End of the Age appeared (the Six-Day War of 1967 that fulfilled the fig tree parable of Mt. 24:32-34), there was no way to drop the schedule of end-time events into its proper slot in our calendar. From that time, when Israel put forth leaves (Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, Sinai, West Bank), it has been possible to figure out when things would take place.

In Mk. 13:23, Jesus said, " take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things." All the clues are in the Bible. We have to search for them as a miner searches for silver. Prov. 2:3-7 says, " Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God. For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding. He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous." Dan. 12:10 says, "none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."

The wicked are not to understand. That is why the clues are not as plain as the nose on our face. Isa. 28:9-13 explains: " Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken."

In Lu. 8:17, Jesus said, "For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad."

> > I firmly believe that he will come on either Pentecost or Feast of Trumpets

I think you are right on both counts. I believe that the Pre-Trib Rapture will be on Pentecost and the Pre-Wrath Rapture will be on Trumpets.

> > I agree that we are to be kept "from the hour of temptation that will come to try them who dwell upon the earth." but, the Word does not really say how much we will have to endure before the antichrist finally can be revealed.

The final Antichrist is the Satan-possessed False Prophet. I think he will be revealed when he and the Beast/Pope confirm the Final Status Peace Agreement, probably on the Feast of Weeks, 2001.

It looks like we are now in the 7th of the 7 good years. The Oslo Peace Accords were signed Sept. 13, 1993. Add the 7 good years and you get Sept. 13, 2000, when the Final Status Peace Agreement is slated to be signed. Add the 7 bad years and you get Sept. 13, 2007, which is the Feast of Trumpets. That is 40 years since the Sign of the End of the Age, the Six-Day War of 1967. I am hoping the Rapture will be on Pentecost, 2000. Joseph took up one fifth of the grain in the 7 good years. Agape

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Re: Rapture when again
I just thought I was internet connected,till I discovered my modem was turned off.Some christians are like that in their spiritual lives. Does a child walk or speak properly at first attempt? You have taken on a job for which you need all the Holy Sirit assistance you can get,and in my humble opinion,you are doing fairly well.

Did you just kneel & pray whether it was God's will for your water baptism,or did you believe His Word and physically ACT on it,in faith? The same ACT of FAITH will give you the fulness of the Holy Spirit,which is ALWAYS confirmed with the gift of speaking in tongues.I believe Jude 20 & its context has instructions for we who await the coming of our Lord.The benefits of prayer tongues are without substitute for those who wish to be fully Spirit led. To the church---this is the real significance of PENTECOST! John 1:33,Acts 8:15-17,10:46,11:15,16,19:6etc

You do seem to make some simple things very complicated! You quote 1st Covenant feasts etc as if they all apply to the church, which is after all,based on a different New Covenant. Therefore you expect the Rapture time will be fulfilled at Pentecost.

My bible reads this way. -- No, we will not see the rapture,before a major economic recession,as that is due to happen at a time when"the coming of the Lord IS AT HAND"(but still ahead!)James 5. NO, we will not be raptured,"..unless the rebellion(Gk.APOSTASY) COMES FIRST,and the MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED.(2 Thess.2:3.RSV). In November, here in Australia it will be Springtime! Perhaps we should all heed James 5 in his call for PATIENCE as we await that glorious event. Keep up the good work,Agape to you.

My reply

I was first baptized in the Methodist church. When I found out that baptizo meant immersion, I wanted to be immersed as Jesus was. I was baptized again and joined the Baptist church.

I don't believe that everyone that is filled with the Holy Spirit speaks in tongues. I didn't. My daughter didn't. My son didn't. The manifestation for us was warmth and unspeakable joy. I told the Lord that if he wanted me to speak in tongues, that was ok, and if he didn't want me to speak in tongues, that was ok. I didn't.

> > You quote 1st Covenant feasts etc as if they all apply to the church, which is after all, based on a different New Covenant.

I Cor. 10:11 says, "Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and THEY ARE WRITTEN FOR OUR ADMONITION, UPON WHOM THE ENDS OF THE WORLD (lit., ages) ARE COME." While being written for all mankind through the ages, the Bible was especially written for us because of the coming Tribulation and Day of God's Wrath.

Are you forgetting that the SPIRIT OF CHRIST CAME to indwell the church on Pentecost? Was that by design or accident? Wouldn't it be a great type of CHRIST COMING for his church?

> > No, we will not see the rapture, before a major economic recession

What Scripture tells you this. I haven't found any.

> > NO, we will not be raptured,"..unless the rebellion (Gk.APOSTASY) COMES FIRST, and the MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED.(2 Thess.2:3.RSV).

Thess. 2:1-7(NIV) says, "Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him (the Rapture), we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the DAY OF THE LORD (the Millennium) has already come. DON'T LET ANYONE DECEIVE YOU in any way, for that day (the Millennium) will not come until the rebellion (Gr., apostasia, departure, i.e., the Rapture, as in apostacion, the separation in a divorcement, or as in apospao, draw away) occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed (at the beginning of the Tribulation), the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God (Mid-Trib). Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? And now you know what is HOLDING HIM BACK, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who how holds it back (the Holy Spirit) will continue to do so TILL HE IS TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY" (at the Rapture).

Christ called believers the salt of the Earth. In breadmaking, salt retards the growth of leaven. Now the Holy Spirit in us is retarding the growth of evil. After we are taken out, there won't be enough salt left to retard the growth of evil. Gal. 5:9 says, "A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump."

The man of sin will be revealed when he confirms the covenant, which seems to be the Final Status Peace Agreement that is to be signed Sept. 13, 2000. I believe we have to be gone before he confirms that covenant, and I expect the Beast and False Prophet to confirm the covenant that kicks off the 70th WEEK of Daniel on the Feast of WEEKS/Pentecost, 2001. Agape

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From: Betty Lee, Current Periodicals, NAU Cline Library, Box 6022, Flagstaff, AZ 86011
RE: Book of Jashar

Two of the three versions available are sorry forgeries...even a person who is no Bible scholar can see through them. One of the those versions is the 80-page Rosecrucian version which errors in that it refers to Jashar as being a person's name other than what it is which is an adjective. The book of Jashar means the book of upright or the book of upright records. There is another version which is even shorter which is something of a new age version...very unlike anything of Hebrew origin. The only version coming close to being credible is one called the Book of Jasher that was faithfully translated and published by J. H. Parry and Company in 1887. Your faithful researcher.

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Thanks. I'll post this on my Pro and Cons.

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Thanks for the quick reply. I agree with the fact that the Heavens and Earth will be refreshed for the millenium. They would have to be after God's wrath. No stone will be left standing. But are you suggesting that after the Millenium, when Satan is loosed for his last devlish crusade. We will be whisked off to Saturn and then the Floating city will come into place there. Or will we stay here on Earth with the same new garment (face) that was put on before the Millenium.

I really don't picture heaven with buildings, and civilization as we knew it. I picture Adam and Eve style. Us, Nature and God. We will have dominion over the animals again. It really doesn't matter to me. I just know that whatever the good lord has been preparing for us. It will be great. Beyond the understanding of the Human mind. It won't be long now. How exciting. Come, Lord Jesus. Peace and Love in Christ

My reply

I expect we will go to our heavenly home soon after the millennial government is set up. Our home is Heaven. We can always travel wherever our work is needed.

I Cor. 2:9 says, "But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." However, New Jerusalem is a CITY. Agape

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I have been interested to read Donald Yager's comments and also your replies.

I just want to encourage you, Marilyn. Your dealing with him has been very gracious and especially in response to his rather angry stance which seems to come through his writing. Also, you are happy to let the Bible speak for itself and I notice that his rantings (and I use this word after some thought) are very short on scripture.

I have to say that from my knowledge of American T.V. there is a frightful amount of error out there and not a lot of sound teaching. Most of the T.V. based 'ministries' seem to me to spend a great deal of time if not most of it, persuading the people watching to part with their money. The trouble is that there is a sufficient amount of truth included that it fools many people, and also some Christians too.

Don't be hurt, dear Marilyn, you do not appear to be proud to me. Nor will you be whisked of by Satan in a fake rapture event. God bless you.

My reply

Thanks. Don isn't going to change. I just heard from him again. Now, I just hope he remembers something that I told him on down the line. I did what I could. Agape

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From: Donald Yager Re: Rapture
You know Marilyn, I apprecaite the effort you put forth to try and help me and others. You are obviously sincere about your belief though extremely wrong,as it is. But as I said before, your anger is very evident! You tell me to read the Bible and I might understand. Let me tell you- I read the Bible EVERYDAY! Almost never missing a day. Twice a day usually. You said in last email that I am letting Pastor Murray tell me what to think. So what are you doing? Telling people what to think! I do not let anyone tell me what to think such as yourself. I read GODS word and let it tell me what to think. But I do have a pastor that I have selected after YEARS of being taught the lies that you rapture people just CANNOT seem to get over. Your date of Sept 13, 2000. NOT!!! You are in a very dangerous position trying to date things. I am not side stepping the issue. I am kind of foolish for even saying as much as I have because "CAST NOT YOUR PEARLS BEFORE SWINE". HAVE A NICE FLIGHT. I WILL NOT BE ON IT WITH YOU. I will be here, on Earth, possibly being delivered up to speak against this great deceiver (SATAN) that has currently got you and most of the world in a stupor! You have had the wool pulled over your eyes and apparently WILL NOT listen to the truth. Maybe if you actually read the Bible and stopped trying to FORCE a rapture that is OBVIOSLY not there into it you would come out of confussion. I can only hope this; that when SATAN is here deceiving you and all the others without the seal of God then you will begin to think of these emails we shared. The millenium is for those that did not make it because they were decieved. But only for those that had no real chance. I will end on this, I am sure glad that I am not in your shoes right now.

My reply

> > Your date of Sept 13, 2000. NOT!!!

You aren't a very careful reader. Pentecost is June 9,10, 2000. It is the Final Status Peace Agreement that is slated to be signed Sept. 13, 2000. One more date you might like to know is that the United Religions charter is to be signed June 26, 2000. You are watching, aren't you? Jesus said for us to watch about 23 times.

In Mk. 13:37 Jesus said, "And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." Agape

PS: II Tim. 4:3 says, "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears"

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When Jesus said the gospel would be preached to all the world before the end, do you see this as done by the church or the angel in Rev 14:6?

My reply

In Mt. 24:14, it is just before "the end" comes. This end is the 3.5-year Great Tribulation that begins when the abomination of desolation is placed at the temple Mid-Trib. Rev. 14:6 is on the Day of God's Wrath, so the preaching is done by the two witnesses, the 144,000 and other believers up to the point when the Satan-possessed False Prophet kills Moses and Elijah.

In Jn. 9:4, Jesus said, "I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. The Great Tribulation may be this "night." It looks like the Earth has heard the gospel by then, and all that remains is a little time for people to make up their minds. Agape

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