Dear Marilyn, Thought you might find this interesting....
God Bless You
Note: Lu. 21:25 says, "there shall be SIGNS in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars." The actual size of the sun is the white circle drawn on the solar shield. Here too are the planets around the Sun as it usually looks without the solar storm. Pay no attention to the horizontal refraction lines caused by the telescope. They are not really part of the planets. Saturn is the only one with real rings that would show up.
The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration's Space Environment Center has issued an outlook for strong geomagnetic storms during a weeklong period beginning Wednesday.... Geomagnetic storms occur when bubbles of charged gas erupt off the sun, washing out over the planets in the solar system. The Earth's natural electromagnetic field shields the planet from the most harmful effects of the storm, but some adverse consequences may occur.
I didn't expect people to start seeing doves where they hadn't seen any before, either. In Mt. 10:16, Jesus said, "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." We seem to be seeing peaceful doves as a gentle reminder of how we are to act. At the same time, they symbolize the Spirit of Christ.
Song of Sol. 5:10-16 speaks of Christ in a very symbolic way. It says, "My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand. His head is as (symbolic language) the most fine gold (symbol of deity), his locks are bushy, and black as a raven. HIS EYES ARE AS THE EYES OF DOVES by the rivers of waters, washed with milk, and fitly set. His cheeks are as a bed of spices, as sweet flowers: his lips like lilies, dropping sweet smelling myrrh. His hands are as gold rings set with the beryl: his belly is as bright ivory overlaid with sapphires. His legs are as pillars of marble, set upon sockets of fine gold: his countenance is as Lebanon (which means white mountain), excellent as the cedars. His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem." Agape
It's funny, when there was a big story regarding the possiblilty of life on Mars that somehow ended up on earth, theoligians were asked if it would produce problems with their faith. Some said yes, to my chagrin. Others were a little less conspicuous. I would be concerned in the least. Why? Because God is soveriegn. He can create life or anything else whenever, and wherever He wants. Am I being a little over simplistic? Your Brother in Christ
Also, even today, reptiles do not stop growing until they die. If Adam lived over 900 years, reptiles and all other life probably did as well. How big could an Iguana or something like it get in 500 - 600 years? I would imagine pretty big. The fossil evidence can easily be explained by the flood of Noah. As a matter of fact, the evidence more easily supports rapid sediment deposits than slowly over "millions and millions of years".
See the following site and watch or listen to the seminars on creationism. Dr. Hovind discusses the matter with great clarity and lots of facts to support the Earth is only about 6,000 years old.
I would ask you to listen to these before adding hundreds of thousands of years to a gap (that only appears depending on the interpretation) between verses 1 and 2 of Genesis. It seems to me that if there was such a gap, it would be very apparent, as evolution is probably the most powerful lie the enemy has used in the last two centuries to steal souls. It seems to me that God would have made the gap more apparent knowing what the evil one would do with it. In Christ
Heb. 1:10 says, "Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth (GE, soil, the solid part of the whole terrene, globe); and the heavens are the works of thine hands."
Rom. 5:12 says, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world (KOSMOS), and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned."
I have looked into the teachings of so-called Creation Science, and I disagree with some of them. They mix truth with error. They equate old age for the Earth with evolution. Those are two different things. I think the Earth is very old, but evolution is poppycock. I think to myself, no wonder it goes in one ear and out the other when so-called creationists lecture to a scientific group. They get no where, and it isn't all because one side believes in evolution and the other side doesn't. Some creationists have a blind spot and don't know it. So do many scientists, but in a different area. The scientists can see places where the creationists are blind, so they chuck the whole thing. If they were more open minded, both sides could learn from each other. Instead, it is like a sparring ring, with no one ever winning. Each side sees what they want to see.
Dr. Hovind said, "Part 1---The Age of the Earth
This session introduces the creation/evolution debate, demonstrating that creation and evolution are irreconcilable worldviews. It also illustrates the impossibility of the Big Bang, and reveals a multitude of evidences that the world simply cannot be billions of years old. It concludes with a demonstration of brainwashing, and how many have been brainwashed by evolutionary theories."
See how the two things, the age of the Earth and evolution are lumped together? Creation is one thing. Evolution is another.
> > I would ask you to listen to these before adding hundreds of thousands of years to a gap (that only appears depending on the interpretation) between verses 1 and 2 of Genesis.
The gap is there in the Hebrew grammar. I don't think it depends on interpretation. I think "And the earth was" should have been translated "And the earth became." The very literal Concordant Bible says, "Created by the Alueim were the heavens and the earth. Yet the earth BECAME a chaos and vacant, and darkness was on the surface of the submerged chaos."
There are also other scriptures that speak of the ancient days. For instance, Isa. 51:9 (KJV) says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in THE ANCIENT DAYS, in THE GENERATIONS OF OLD. Art thou not it that hath cut (split) Rahab (Satan's planet), and wounded the dragon (Satan)?" Do you think that happened after Adam was created? I don't. I think Satan was tested, failed his test, was judged and sentenced before Adam was created. Agape
hmm Friday is peperation day. Mark 15:42 "And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath".
Saturday they rested Luke 23:54 "And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on." Luke 23:55 "And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid." Luke 23:56 "And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment."
Sunday Matthew 28:1 "In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
I am not sure what high day is. The only other place I could find it was Gen 29:7 "And he said, Lo, it is yet high day, neither is it time that the cattle should be gathered together: water ye the sheep, and go and feed them." Here I just think they mean morning.
John 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation(Friday), that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day(Saturday), for that sabbath day was an high day(After looking at other versions of this scripture it looks like it means Great Day), besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
I realy dont get how the 70th week could be so far in the future. The prophacy comes from Daniel and is set in Verse 25 from the rebuild of the temple. If in verse 24 there is a seventy week period ending in 34AD, the same time Paul changes to Saul and starts his ministry. Verse 25 shows that the 69th week is when Jesus is anointed in 27 AD. From 27 AD (69th Week) where Jesus was anointed to Paul (end of the 70th week) in 34AD is 7 years.
Daniel 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."
So wouldn't the mid week be around 30-31 AD. The same time Jesus is crucified on the cross. This caused the offering (or oblation) of sacrifices to cease.
69th week----------------------27 AD
70th week----------------------34 AD
Mid Week---------------------30-31AD Jesus dies on the cross
> > As he explains in The Romance of Bible Chronology, Martin Anstey found an 82-year mistake in the period of the Persian Kings. Thus 536 - 82 = BC 454. 483 years - 454 + 1 = 30 AD, the year the Messiah was "cut off" (karath, killed) (Dan. 9:26). 30 AD + 40 years = 70 AD, when Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed. Forty means testing and probation. It is also one generation. In 30 AD, in Mt. 23:36, Jesus told the Pharisees, "All these things shall come upon THIS GENERATION." They did, in 70 AD (30 + 40 = 70). Eze. 4:6 mentioned the iniquity of the house of Judah as being 40 days, each day to represent a year. This was fulfilled in the 40 years from 30 to 70 AD.
If it does start at 454 that would change all the dates three years ahead to.
1. 70 weeks are determined 37AD
2. From Jerusalem till the Messiah 30AD
3. Messiah cut off/destroy sanctuary 65 AD
4. Mid week would be around 33-34 AD
(I messed up and minused one year when I should of added one on the last message for the Messiah being cut off so I should of wrote 62 not 60. Any ways three years ahead would be 65 AD.) That would also put Jesus's birth around -1BC.
This is all still close to the right dates but a few years ahead on most counts.
Since they said, "Not on the feast day," THE CRUCIFIXION WAS NOT ON THE FEAST OF PASSOVER (Friday, Nisan 14). It is clear that the Passover was still future during the trials. "They...went not into the judgment hall...that they might eat the PASSOVER" (Jn. 18:28).
Mk. 14:12 says, "the first (prote, before, prior) day of unleavened bread, WHEN THEY KILLED THE PASSOVER, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?" This was Thursday, Nisan 13, Crucifixion Day. They ate the last supper after Nisan 13's 12 hours of night started at 6:00 PM. Jesus was taken prisoner after the last supper, tried and sentenced in time to be put on the cross at 9:00 AM during Nisan 13's 12 hours of day. He died about 3 PM as the Passover lambs were being killed at the temple. The lambs had to be roasted and ready to be eaten as soon as Nisan 14, Passover, began at 6 PM. The many many lambs were killed during what they called "between the evenings," between 3 and 5 PM.
Jn. 19:13,14 says, " When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. And IT (Nisan 13) WAS THE PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER (Nisan 14), and about the sixth hour (Roman time, our 9 AM): and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!"
Jn. 19:31 says, "The Jews therefore, because it was THE PREPARATION (Nisan 13, preparation of the Passover), that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day (Passover), (for THAT sabbath day was an high day (the Passover, not the sabbath according to the commandment), besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."
The women who bought spices rested on the Passover high sabbath (Friday, Nisan 14) and the Saturday sabbath (Nisan 15), which was according to the commandment, before going to the tomb in the early morning Sunday (Nisan 16).
Lu. 23:56 says, "And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENT" (Saturday).
Mt. 28:1 says, "In the end of the sabbath (Saturday, Nisan 15), as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week (Sunday, Nisan 16), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Mt. 12:40 says, "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." They were Thursday (day), Friday (night then day), Saturday (night then day) and Sunday (night). Everything fits perfectly. All gospel accounts harmonize.
> > I realy dont get how the 70th week could be so far in the future. The prophacy comes from Daniel and is set in Verse 25 from the rebuild of the temple. The 70th week of Daniel is in verse 27, but the gap is in verse 26. Dan. 9:26,27 says, "after threescore and two weeks ( 49 + 434 = 483 years) shall Messiah be cut off (karath, killed), but not for himself (for us):" This is the Crucifixion of Christ.
Continuing, "and the people (Romans) of the prince that shall come (the False Prophet takes all the duties of the first beast, the Tribulation Pope, so he becomes head of the Roman Catholic Church and of the United Religions) shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary (70 AD);" Here it skips to the end of the 70th week, the Tribulation.
Continuing, "and THE END (of the 70th week) thereof shall be with a flood (an asteroid will impact the Mediterranean Sea, Rev. 8:8; Zeph. 2:4,5), and unto the end of the war (Armageddon) desolations are determined."
Continuing, "And he (the False Prophet) shall confirm the covenant (probably the Final Status Peace Agreement) with many (One World Government nations) for one week (7 years): and in the midst of the week (Mid-Trib) he (the False Prophet) shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (he sits in the temple 'shewing himself that he is God,' II Thess. 2:4), and for the overspreading of abominations (idols) he (the False Prophet) shall make it (the Temple) desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate (lit., desolator)." He will be thrown in the Lake of Fire (Rev. 19:20).
> > If it does start at 454 that would change all the dates three years ahead to.
1. 70 weeks are determined 37AD
2. From Jerusalem till the Messiah 30AD
3. Messiah cut off/destroy sanctuary 65 AD
4. Mid week would be around 33-34 AD
...That would also put Jesus's birth around -1BC.
There are 7 weeks (49years), then 62 weeks (434 years), making up the 483 years from the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah. 483 - BC 454 + 1 = 30 AD, the Crucifixion. I think Jesus was born on Tishri 1 in BC 5.
The 70th week is still future in our days. I think it will begin on the Feast of Weeks in 2001. Mid-Week would be in 2004. Agape
Marilyn - thank you for all the time and effort you have put into this study, and thank you for sharing it with us. I too look forward to reading your pro's and con's on a daily basis. Good or bad, it has become a staple of my bible study. God bless, and I hope to see you soon.
> > I don't think that I can believe that "bow" in the first seal means cloth
Rev. 6:2 says, "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow (Gr., 'toxon,' Strong's 5115: 'a bow [appar. as the simplest fabric]:--bow'); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."
The fabric band shows that this man is a religious leader, one we call a man of the cloth. Fabric bands, lambskin, lamb's wool, horns, etc. are also used to show that certain figures in the Gospel in the Stars stand for Christ, our High Priest, and even mark some figures associated with him. BOOTES, the good shepherd, has a fabric band in his hair and lambskin boots trimmed with bands. HERCULES is wearing a garment made of lamb's wool. On his head are the lamb's ears. The feet come around to the front and cross to hold the garment on. OPHIUCHUS is wearing fabric draped around him. The two natured SAGITTARIUS has a fabric cape blowing in the wind. Instead of fabric, CAPRICORNUS has two horns like a ram. AQUARIUS is wearing fabric draped around him. ARIES the two horned ram has his foot on the band that connects him to the two fish (representing two Rapture groups). CEPHEUS, the crowned king is draped with fabric and holds several fabric streamers up in his right hand.(Even Queen CASSIOPEIA is draped with fabric and holds one end dangling from her raised right hand.) PERSEUS has a fabric garment with bands on the shoulders and arms. TAURUS has two horns. ORION has sheepskin boots with lamb's wool cuffs, lots of fabric bands decorating his fabric garment, and a sword with a lamb's head on the handle. AURIGA, the shepherd, has lambskin boots with lamb's wool cuffs, fabric draped on his body, and a lamb's wool hat and band at the neck of his garment. Both the Bride and Bridegroom in GEMINI are seated in heavenly places (on the ecliptic) draped with fabric. Even the ship ARGO is flying a long fabric streamer instead of a flag atop the mast. It has a representation of Christ's face just above the waterline and a ram's head above on the prow. LEO is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. VIRGO is wearing a fabric robe and has fabric draped over her head. ANDROMEDA is also wearing fabric draped around her.
If you need to pick out one outstanding example, it is CEPHEUS the great king holding aloft a fistful of fabric streamers. Agape
Looking at the scriptures as they are posted confirm more and more that Jesus is Coming for His Bride in my lifetime and more likely on Pentecost of this year.
You had mentioned in P&C 528 "To be caught up with the wise virgins when the Bridegroom comes at the Pre-Trib Rapture, we need to have extra oil of the Holy Spirit (Mt. 25:1-13)."
Does the Word say, "We need EXTRA OIL of the Holy Spirit?" and "What would we use to HOLD the EXTRA OIL of the Holy Spirit?" The Word says in Matt 25 verse 3, "They that were foolish took their lamps (i.e. TORCH, LIGHT, FLAME), and took no oil with them (i.e. THEM referring to their LAMPS). Verse 4 "But the wise took oil in their vessels (i.e. RECEPTACLE, RESERVOIR) with their lamps.
Could it be that VESSELS in vs 4 is in reference to the real persons or spirits of the wise virgins? ALL TEN WERE VIRGINS of whom five were wise (i.e. PHILADELPHIAN CHURCH) and five were foolish (i.e. LAODICIAN CHURCH), so does the Word imply that ALL TEN took OIL (i.e. Holy Spirit) IN THEIR VESSELS? ALL TEN VIRGINS took THEIR LAMPS (i.e. Torch, Light, Flame);however, FIVE WISE took OIL and FIVE FOOLISH took NO OIL WITH THEIR LAMPS!
Romans 8:9 "Now if any man have not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST(i.e. Oil of the Holy Spirit) he is NONE of His." When WE BECOME NEW CREATURES THROUGH THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST do we not also RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT BY WHOM WE ARE SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION (i.e. FIRST RAPTURE, BLESSED HOPE)?
While THE BRIDEGROOM TARRIED (i.e. lingered, delayed), ALL TEN VIRGINS SLUMBERED AND SLEPT.
When THE CRY AT MIDNIGHT was made, "THE BRIDEGROOM COMETH, GO YE OUT TO MEET HIM", ALL TEN VIRGINS AROSE AND TRIMMED (i.e. put in order, make ready, prepare) THEIR LAMPS.
It is evident from understanding Matthew 25 verse 8, ALL TEN VIRGINS HAD OIL ALREADY IN THEIR LAMPS (i.e. torch, light, flame) WHICH CAUSED THEM TO BURN. What would cause the LAMPS of the FOOLISH VIRGINS TO GO OUT?
Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Could it be that EXTRA OIL is not WHAT IS NEEDED by the FIVE FOOLISH VIRGINS, but rather CONFESS THEIR SINS (1 John 1:9), WHICH PREVENTS THE OIL FLOW TO THEIR LAMPS?
Could it be that THE FIVE WISE VIRGINS AWOKE from their slumber and sleep TO CONFESSING THEIR SINS (1 John 1:9), thereby allowing THE OIL IN THEIR VESSELS to flow freely and CHRIST GIVE THEM LIGHT?
What happens when an OIL WELL is drilled and THE WAY IS CLEAR to the OIL? Does THE OIL slowly come out, or PERHAPS BURST OUT TO OVERFLOWING? WHAT IS THE TOUGHEST FLAME TO TRY TO EXTINQUISH? Could it be an OIL FIRE?
By the way, THE COMING REVIVAL that some of the TV Evangelist are speaking about. Will it begin after THE FIRST RAPTURE? (which I believe fits for this coming Pentecost, Saturday, June 10th)
Jesus is Worthy to Be Praised! I choose Jesus and The First Rapture. I'd rather be AT HOME (Heaven) WITH THE LORD and not be present for The Coming Revival on Earth.
Marilyn, as you say often, "Either way the Rapture is Near". Maranatha and In His Love.
No. We have to figure out that the anointing oil represented the Holy Spirit. Our extra vessels are our bodies. The lamp is the sealing we get when we accept Christ. That we can't lose. All 10 virgins are saved and have their lamps lit. Only the wise have extra oil in their vessels/bodies. Scripture says to be filled with the Spirit.
> > What would cause the LAMPS of the FOOLISH VIRGINS TO GO OUT?
They don't go out. They are literally going out, or sputtering. They can't go buy more oil in time, so we should learn by that to keep plenty of oil in our vessels of clay at all times.
> > Could it be that EXTRA OIL is not WHAT IS NEEDED by the FIVE FOOLISH VIRGINS, but rather CONFESS THEIR SINS (1 John 1:9), WHICH PREVENTS THE OIL FLOW TO THEIR LAMPS?
Exactly. It is by confessing our sins that the Holy Spirit wells up within us like a fountain of living water.
> > By the way, THE COMING REVIVAL that some of the TV Evangelist are speaking about. Will it begin after THE FIRST RAPTURE?
I don't know. They will have to give me chapter and verse on it. One thing I do know, there will be a great multitude saved in the Tribulation (Rev. 7:9,14).
I too, just want to be with the Lord. I've had enough of this evil world. It is bad enough now, let alone during the worst 7 years since there was a nation. Maybe that is one thing he is teaching us. We don't want to live with evil, period. This way, we CHOOSE to live right and obey Him. Agape
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