Pro and Con 538

Posted 6-18-00

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this article appeared on WorldNetDaily today: "A meteor as bright as the sun was seen over north central Victoria on Saturday, heading for earth. Gary Gibson, research director at the Melbourne-based Seismology Research Center, said he saw the meteor and was astounded by its speed and brightness....Mr. Gibson said the meteor, which he saw at 5:24PM, was visible for only about three seconds, but left a vapor trail which remained in the sky almost ten minutes. "The sun was still up and it was as bright as the sun, it was just amazing," he said." More "signs in the heavens."...

Looking up, watching and praying always. Much love

PS: time of Assad's death
just an interesting note to the post I sent on the meteor in Australia. Assad of Syria died Saturday morning, according to the obituary I read. There is a time zone difference of 8 hours, if I have figured correctly, as Damascus is in daylight savings time, and Melbourne is not. The meteor was seen at 5:24PM in Australia, which would have been 9:24 AM in Damascus. The news reported that Assad's death came suddenly, him actually being stricken with the heart attack in the middle of a phone conversation. This enemy of Israel fell suddenly, like the meteor which fell at about the same time. Love

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Shadows of coming events.
Thanks for connecting these two things. I hadn't thought of it. The incoming meteor and Assad's death in Damascus on a feast day (Sat., 6-10-00, Sivan 7, Pentecost) is very interesting. Isa. 17:1,11 says of the Feast of Trumpets when the asteroids fall on the Day of God's Wrath, "Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap...in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow." Agape

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Three anchors in Acts
the 27th chapter of Acts recounts Paul's journey by ship to Rome. This journey might have been avoided, had not Paul appealed to Caeser (Acts 26:32: "Then said Agrippa unto Festus, This man might have been set at liberty, if he had not appealed unto Caeser.") The account in chapter 27, I think is full of prophetic meaning underneath, if it can be discerned. Nothing is in the Bible by accident. I think that it has application to this time. In verse 31, Paul states, "....Except these abide in the ship, ye cannot be saved." Three times in the chapter, anchors are mentioned. Read the chapter, and see what you think. Watching, and praying always. Love

My reply

The anchor does suggest that we consider any mention of anchors in Scripture. In Acts 27, the "third day" is in v. 19; "all hope that we should be saved was then taken away" is in v. 20. Then Paul stood up and said, "I exhort you to be of good cheer: for there shall be no loss of any man's life among you...For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom I serve (i.e., it was Christ, the angel of the Lord), Saying, Fear not, Paul; thou must be brought before Caesar: and, lo, God hath given thee all them that sail with thee. Wherefore, sirs, be of good cheer: for I believe God...But when the FOURTEENTH NIGHT was come...ABOUT MIDNIGHT...they cast four anchors out of the stern, and wished for the day....Paul said...EXCEPT THESE ABIDE IN THE SHIP, YE CANNOT BE SAVED...This day is the FOURTEENTH DAY...when they had eaten enough, they lightened the ship, and cast out the WHEAT into the sea....and when they had taken up the anchors...they ran the ship aground; and...they ESCAPED ALL SAFE to land."

We must abide in the ship, whatever the trial, and however long it takes. We will escape all safe to land, Heaven, but what about the remnant of the wheat being "CASTAWAY." Does that represent the foolish Laodicean virgins being left in the nations (Rev. 17:15)? In I Cor. 9:24-27, Paul said, "Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the PRIZE? So run, that ye may obtain....But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY."

Not only must we abide in the ship, we must NOT be "castaway" before the ship runs aground. Hold fast. Heb. 12:1 says, "Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us RUN WITH PATIENCE THE RACE THAT IS SET BEFORE US."

Heb. 6:18-20 says, " Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the HEIRS OF PROMISE the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath: That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have A STRONG CONSOLATION, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon THE HOPE SET BEFORE US: Which hope we have AS AN ANCHOR OF THE SOUL, both SURE AND STEDFAST, and which entereth into that within the veil (i.e., Heaven); Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec."

Late spring and early summer fit Song. of Solomon 2:10-14. Agape

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Thank you for all of the good information. You really have opened your eyes and ears to heaven. What I am wondering is about the United world religion, are you sure it is to be headed by the pope? I believe that I have seen their web site (www.united-religions.org) but they haven't said anything about the pope heading anything, and how come this has not recieved much news coverage? Maybe I don't watch enough news but so far I have not heard much. Your brother in Christ

My reply

Rev. 13:7-9 says, " And he (the Beast) opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven (those caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture). And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (of the Tribulation), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations (i.e., he heads up OWG). And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him (the leader of the UR), whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear."

Zech. 5:4 says of the "curse," the asteroid, "I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts (Christ, Isa. 44:6), and it shall enter into the house of the thief (the False Prophet, like Judas), and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name (the Pope, who claims infallibility and that he is the Vicar of Christ): and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof."

Isa. 9:15 says, "The ancient and honourable (i.e., the Pope), he is the head (6th head of the great red dragon); and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail." He is first the 7th head of the great red dragon. He is Satan possessed, so he is the 7th head and the tail of the great red dragon. When he is deposed from office on the Day of God's Wrath, Satan himself, the tail of the great red dragon, becomes "the eighth" of Rev. 17:11 and operates on his own until the end of Armageddon.

In Rev. 17:18, the harlot religion seems to be Vatican City. In Zech. 5:6, the "ephah" (largest measure for wheat) goes forth. "This is their resemblance through ALL THE EARTH (i.e., it is the World Church). In v. 11, it looks like Vatican City will be moved to Shinar (Babylon), where the Tower of Babel was started. This World Church will be "set there upon her OWN BASE" (i.e., the Tower of Babel and her Mystery Religion was the foundation of the harlot church..

This Pope has been meeting with leaders of various religions to bring them all together.

The planning stages of the UR have been going on behind the scenes for some time, at least since 1997. They have been working on writing the UR charter that is to be signed June 26, 2000, ever since 1998. It has been done pretty much in secret and is only now going public with the charter signing.

I think these indicate the Pope will head up the OWG and the UR for the first half of the Tribulation. How does it look to you? Agape

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Your most recent writings
I just discovered your many writings on the internet about our Lord Jesus Christ, and I am wondering what you latest book, or books, or writings on the internet are. I would appreciate knowing so I could tune into your latest thinking about such wonderful things like the Rapture, etc. Thank you.

My reply

The latest Pro and Con is always posted with the date on the top on the Home page. See 536 for pictures of the signs in the Sun, Moon and a constellation.

Last year, we had a new star, NOVA VELORUM, in the sails (VELA) of the ship ARGO (meaning THE COMPANY OF TRAVELERS) on May 22, Sivan 7, Pentecost. This year, near Pentecost, the DOUBLE ANCHOR (sign of hope in the Eastern Orthodox Church) appeared in the same place.

What is astonishing to me is to find out that the sign of hope in the Roman Catholic Church is a SINGLE anchor. It reminds me of the warning in Rev. 2:21,22: " I gave her space to repent of her fornication (joining, i.e., with the UR, United Religions); and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into GREAT TRIBULATION, except they repent of their deeds."

Abraham was told to get out of Ur, which is 6 mi. west of the Euphrates and halfway between Babylon and the Persian Gulf. In Rev. 18:4, it says, "Come out of her, my people." We want no part in the UR. The UR charter is to be signed June 26, 2000.

That day could be the end of her SPACE TO REPENT. From that day on, the die is cast. Even WICCA is included in the UR. Joining UR is like signing a pact of unity with all of Satan's counterfeit religions. Rev. 2:21 says, " I GAVE her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not." It sounds like the space to repent is already PAST at this point.

Rev. 2:10 says, "Fear none of those things which thou shalt (FUTURE) suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation (thlipsis, pressure, affliction) TEN DAYS."

Rev. 3:10 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will (FUTURE) keep thee FROM the hour of temptation (peirasmos, trial), which shall (i.e., AFTER THE RAPTURE) come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

Lu. 21:36 says, "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE all these things that shall (i.e., AFTERWARD) come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

If the 10 days would start at the end of Thyatira's (which means thoroughly married) space to repent, the Rapture could come on July 6.

However, I think Song of Sol. 2:10-13 is talking about the Rapture. It says, " My beloved (Christ) spake, and said unto me, RISE UP, my love (the Bride group), my fair one, and COME AWAY. For, lo, the winter is past (making the 1st day of summer possible), the rain is over and gone (i.e., Nisan is over); The flowers appear on the earth; THE TIME of the singing (the new song, Rev. 5:9) of birds (of birds is not in the original) IS COME, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove) is heard in our land (Apr. through Oct); The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. ARISE, my love, my fair one, and COME AWAY."

Mic. 7:1,2 says, "Woe is me! for I am as (symbolic language) when they have gathered (asaph, REMOVED, TAKEN AWAY) the SUMMER FRUITS, as the grapegleanings of the vintage: there is no cluster to eat: my soul desired the FIRSTRIPE FRUIT (i.e., to be caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture at the time of the FIRSTRIPE FRUIT). The good man is perished (abad, ESCAPED, EVACUATED) out of the earth: and there is none upright among men."

We just have to get ready, i.e., confess all known sins since we accepted Christ, as in I Jn. 1:9, and stay ready until the Lord comes. It can't be far away, no matter how we figure it. In Rev. 17:14, the Rapture has already happened. Those "WITH HIM are called, and chosen and faithful." It is BEFORE the 10 kings take office. Verse 12 says that they "have received NO KINGDOM AS YET." They are crowned as the Tribulation begins in Rev. 13. Today, the world has already been divided into 10 regions, but the "kings" have not yet been announced.

I think that the 70th week of Daniel will begin on the Feast of Weeks in 2001. As I see it, we have to be gone before that. I believe we are now in the 7th of the 7 good years that started when the Oslo Accords were signed Sept. 13, 1993. Joseph took up a fifth of the grain in the 7 good years. We are called wheat. The Rapture seems near. The Final Status Peace Agreement is to be signed Sept. 13, 2000. Agape

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Re: The First Resurrection - Rev. 20:4-6 I was recently listening to an audio message on end times prophecy. The commentator was discussing Revelation 20:4-6:

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (KJV) He explained that verse 5 supports a post-trib rapture only because if there was a pre-trib rapture before that time, it could not be called the "first resurrection." While I don't agree with this position because of the overwhelming evidence elsewhere in the Word, can you give some insight into this passage of scripture? What is context in which the "first resurrection" is mentioned here? Thanks - God bless you

My reply

There are ranks in the first resurrection. Christ was the first. After him was the rest of the sheaf of the Firstfruits. Mt. 27:52,53 says, "the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many."

I Cor. 15:22,23 says, "as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order (tagmati, rank): Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming." Verse 52 says, "at the LAST TRUMP...the dead shall be raised." There can't be a LAST TRUMP until after there has been a FIRST TRUMP. The first trump sounds in I Thess. 4:16,17.

There are two Raptures, one Pre-Trib, the other Pre-Wrath. The FIRST TRUMP is as the days of Noah. Only rain fell that day. The LAST TRUMP is as the days of Lot. Fire fell that same day. Lu. 17:29 says, "the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all."

The group "out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation" seen in Heaven in Rev. 5:9 are caught up before the first seal is broken that starts the Tribulation. The "great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues" seen in Heaven in Rev. 7:9 come "out of great tribulation" (v. 14) between the breaking of the 6th (Rev. 6:12) and 7th seals (Rev. 8). Agape

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The United Religions Initiative is still on track for signing, it seems. Many of the pages at their web site (www.uri.org) are beginning to display the logo that I have attached. It has a rather ominous look about it from my point of view.

A couple of the Principles enumerated in the URI Charter are also disturbing. Number thirteen, says "We have the authority to make decisions at the most local level that includes all the relevant and affected parties." And number sixteen says, "We (each part of the URI) shall relinquish only such autonomy and resources as are essential to the pursuit of the Preamble, Purpose and Principles."

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Re: Rapture. June 9 and 10 are gone. When is you best guess now?

My reply

Song of Sol. 2:10-14 fits late spring and early summer. I'm waiting patiently. Jesus said, "Watch." I'm watching to see what develops. Agape

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I came across part 2 of this article.

Are you sure that the "dawning" ( 6:00 PM ) of the first day of the week or the 4TH DAY, does not show that our Lord was crucified on Wednesday afternoon and rose from the dead LATE ON THE WEEKLY SABBATH, JUST BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK BEGAN??

After all, Jesus is TRULY LORD OF THE SABBATH ( 7th ) DAY!!

I realize that you have throughly studied this subject and I don't mean to sound repetitive. But I feel the Spirit is tugging at my heart that it is extremely important that this part of scripture be properly understood.

You are in my prayers always, Your friend in Christ Jesus http://members.aol.com/prophecy04/Articles/Prophecy/3dayspt2.html

My reply

I think the Crucifixion was on Thursday, Nisan 13, Preparation Day. The Lamb of God died as the priests started to slay the Passover lambs between the evenings, between 3 and 5 PM, so they could be roasted and ready to be eaten after Nisan 14 began at 6 PM.

Mt. 28 literally says, "In the end of the sabbaths (i.e., Passover Friday and Unleavened Bread Saturday), as it began to dawn (epiphosko, to begin to grow light) toward the first day of the week (Firstfruits Sunday), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre." This is daybreak, not the beginning of the night at 6 PM. It is nearer to 6 AM.

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I have seen the sign I was waiting for right on time!
I just got home from work, and must share with you what happened last night, on Sivan 14. Let me set up the events here first. All week I have been looking at two passages Matthew 24:32 and Luke 21:30. I focused on two words summer (Strong's 2330) and nigh (Strong's 1451) 1451 is near, at hand, and this is the only description that is favored that I could find in any guide, computer or printed. 2330 is summer, it is the only description that I could find in any guide, computer or printed.

In Matthew 24:32, I am positive you and I agree on the following: the "fig-tree" is Israel, the "puts out leaves" is the six day war of 1967, and this was at a tender age of 19. Indeed we just went past the anniversary of the six day war at the start of the month of June, and as the Bible says, it took place before the summer solstice. In Luke 21:30, our redemption is based on exactly the same description.

I need to be totally direct here, I have absolutely no way of offering any scriptural reasons why the Pre-Trib Rapture can be after the summer solstice of this year. With Agape to the other Spirit Filled Believers who have been suggesting that it will take place after summer solstice, I absolutely can not find any support for this, and actually such a time is totally out of alignment with Song of Solomon 2:10 and the above verses. If I am still here after the summer solstice this year, I do not even have a point to start from for further investigation. I would be totally blank of any paths to investigate. This is what I have been going over and over since Sivan 7.

Well I got the sign I was looking for.
Let me explain about Sivan 14. Here where I live it was a completely clear and hot day. Recall that EXACTLY seven days ago on Sivan 7, I saw first the anchor rainbow, and then the triple rainbow. So how could I see any confirming sign such as a rainbow again, when there is zero chance of any rain today. WELL THE LORD FOUND A WAY. At EXACTLY the same time of day seven days later from the triple rainbow, I saw a RAINBOW CLOUD! I do not know exactly what this phenomenon is called, but it is associated with the sun approaching the horizon. Now there is nothing incredible about one of these colored rainbows in a cloud near to the sun on the horizon, BUT HOW COULD THIS BE AT EXACTLY THE SAME TIME SEVEN DAYS LATER, WHICH IS THREE DAYS EXACTLY BEFORE SIVAN 17! There is no way this could be by random chance. Actually, just as I am writing this to you, I am watching CNN, and lo and behold, a miracle peace agreement is being declared between Ethiopia and Eritrea. Ethiopia is talked about all over the Bible, I will let you look for yourself, Ethiopia has many Christian Brothers living there. This peace agreement is another milestone, marked exactly by a rainbow for me. The last was the death of Assad on Sivan 7. I thought that would be the Rapture.

As I read your last P&C, I can see evidence all over the pages that there is agreement among you and other spirit filled believers to be watching on June 20 here on the west coast of North America.

I TOTALLY AGREE that the days since Sivan 7 have been Rev 2:10. We have had many supernatural experiences here in our household since then. I would not be at all suprised at any reader out there lumping all my rainbows in with these experiences, and mocking or laughing at me, or dismissing me as "kooky". Read about how Noah was ridiculed!

I do not care what anyone says, my feelings are not hurt. If I am here to write again after June 20, I will be writing that I was totally wrong about all the signs, and apoligize for my zeal. MY TRUE CONCERN is that all those who read this will be confessed and watching until June 21, 2000. It would be a tragedy for any believer to be weeping and gnashing their teeth on June 21 because they became skeptical and lacking in faith and confession now that Sivan 7 has gone by! Agape

My reply

Thanks for all you share with us. It is greatly appreciated. Signs are signs, whether we interpret them right or not. It is better to be zealous than lukewarm. Jesus told the Laodiceans, "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: BE ZEALOUS therefore, and repent" (Rev. 3:19). We need a right relationship with God more than we need to be right about interpreting signs. We are doing our best to understand correctly, trying hard. What else can we do?

Remember the following email? This might be near your area.

> > I felt I must write in and tell everyone that a very unusual rainbow was seen in our area on June 10, 2000 as well. I live in British Columbia and they even put photos of this unusual rainbow on the 6 oclock news hour. It was not in the shape of a rainbow but the colors and stripes of the rainbow covered an odd shaped cloud completely. It was a rainbow cloud. The news reporters were even commenting how they have never seen anything like it. It was incredible, Surely something is going to happen very soon! Thanks so much for your work and encouragement Marylin, we must be so close now. Agape

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Re: Another sign after I sent the e-mail on the rainbow cloud
Time is very short. Hope you are able to read these before Tuesday June 20th.

After I went to bed at almost 4 am on June 18th, looked at the sky, clear with broken clouds. NO FORECAST EVEN MENTIONED RAIN, THE DAY BEFORE WAS AS CLEAR AND AS HOT AS IT COULD BE. THERE WAS ZERO CHANCE FORECAST OF RAIN.

Only one hour later, I woke up for no apparent reason. As I walked down the hall of my house, I saw ONE lightning flash and ONE thunder. Looked outside and it was raining furiously. Shortly after, no more rain or storm. Just as I heard the thunder before, four days before Ascension day, this was the same thing. These signs indicate to me (based on how they were timed the last time) three days after the rainbow cloud of Sivan 15 (converted to Jerusalem time) to the Pre-Trib Rapture, and after the third day (four days from the voice of God speaking in thunder as in Exodus), the time of Jacob's trouble is right at the door. Judgement of the nation Israel. You don't have to publish this if you do not want to. I made the committment a long time ago to share every sign I ever see. The Lord led me to your web site originally when I was not even looking for it. Just as you saw a light on Jer 50:2, the "light" shone upon your website. I feel strongly I must share all that I see with you. Be patient with me, I know I am sending you a lot of material that is curious. We will know shortly why the Lord is giving me these private signs. Agape

My reply

I'm not behind on reading my email, just on answering it. :-) Please do keep me posted. Things seem to be building toward a climax. Agape

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A possible date?
...I had been monitoring your site for over a year when my father went to heaven on this past April 13th after a long illness. My father was a minister for over 35 years, a pioneering pastor in many ways. As long as I can remember he taught about the rapture. I can remember him telling me as a teenager that he believed that there would be two raptures, one for the Christians whose robes were spotless, and then later for the rest of the Christians, before God's wrath was to be poured out upon the earth. He told me that over 30 years ago, Marilyn.

Because I have been "watching" and studying, including almost daily visits to your website, when my father died, I new that it would not be long before we would be reunited in the presence of Jesus. But the Lord spoke to me when I received the news that my father moved on up. He said that the date of dad's passing will relate to the rapture by a factor of seven days.

Well after the very joyful memorial service that we had for my dad, I got out the calendar. April 13th + 7 days = April 20th (Passover), April 13th + (7x7=49 days) = June 1st (Ascension Day), interesting alignment, but it still didn't line up with Pentecost which would occur on June 10th. I thought that it could be pointing to June 1st as the beginning of the "10 days" until Pentecost and thus the rapture, but to be honest I thought that Pentecost really didn't quite fit what the Lord had told me, but I still believed that Pentecost still was held an excellent chance for the rapture.

When it didn't occur on Pentecost, I once again turned to the calendar. It hit me that maybe the sequence of 7 days before Passover, (7x7) 49 days before Ascension Day would take the next logical step of 70 days from April 13th, which would be June 22nd. I knew that the time around June 20th was being discussed on your website, prompting me to do some research on the beginning of summer, the Summer Solstice.

http://www.treasure-troves.com/astro/SummerSolstice.html
I found that the SS occurs at 1:30 in the morning Universal time on June 21st. That would be the early afternoon of June 21st in some parts of the would just west of the International Date Line, or late in the day on June 20th in the U.S. The point is that June 20th and 21st are just partial summer days for parts of the world, June 22nd is the first full day on summer for the entire world. This could create the interesting sequence that would line up with what the Lord showed me: April 13th + 7 = Passover, April 13th + 49 = Ascension Day, April 13th + 70 = Rapture Day. What do you think? Blessings

My reply

Thanks for the exact information on the first day of summer.

I'm so pleased that someone else could see years ago that there are two Raptures. I really don't know on the other, but 13 + 7 = 20, which is listed as the first day of summer on my calendar in California. We will know soon on that one.

Mt. 24:32,33 says, "parable of the fig tree (Israel); When his branch (modern Israel) is yet tender (apalos, young, i.e., no more than 19, which she was in 1967), and putteth forth leaves (grows, as in the Six-Day War of 1967), ye know that summer is nigh (June 5-10 to June 20/21): So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it ('the kingdom of God,' Lu. 21:31; i.e., the Rapture) is near, even at the doors" (symbol of the Rapture, Rev. 3:8; 4:1).

Do you suppose "all these things" could include seeing summer? It is 10 days (Rev. 2:10) from Sivan 7 to 17 (June 10 to 20). Agape

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