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Posted 6-30-00

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Re: "simultaneous" rainbows
Just a note to in response to the man whose family saw the unusual rainbow. I live in Juneau, Alaska and saw a rainbow very similar to the one he drew, I even took pictures of it because it was so beautiful and unusual. It was June 26th, 1999 and I remember the day as beautiful, warm and sunshining. It was an awesome rainbow. May God bless you richly

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This may have something to do with your rainbows:
--- Original Message ---
Re: sundog, noun
1. A parhelion (a bright spot sometimes appearing on either side of the sun, often on a luminous ring or halo)
2. A small halo or rainbow near the horizon just off the parhelic circle.

"I still remember a lecture on sundogs when I was a graduate student and the vivid demonstration on how the hexagonal ice crystals cause these images."
W. Dean Pesnell, The Prodigal Sun, Mercury, Jan/Feb 1998.

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I live in eastern Ohio and work in West Virginia. I just wanted to let you know that I saw an ENORMOUS double rainbow today over the Ohio River while I was at work. I don't ever recall seeing a double rainbow before. I read other people mention that they too saw a double rainbow. Is this a normative thing and if not, what is the signifigance prophetically, if any? Thanks!

My reply

I don't know, but a double-anchor symbol of hope and double rainbows to remind us of God's covenant with the Earth sure seem to go together. I have never heard of so many before, and such gorgeous ones to boot. I will never forget the beauty when Ed and I were in the end of the inner color band of a huge complete double rainbow on Jan. 26, 1999. Color streaks were high in the sky overhead and splashing down on the cars in front of us.

Gen. 9:12,13 says, "God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, FOR PERPETUAL GENERATIONS: I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a COVENANT BETWEEN ME AND THE EARTH."

I couldn't sleep from about 2 - 4 AM last night, so started reading about Noah's Flood again. All day, I have been wondering, could the Rapture happen on Av 19? Here is what is going through my head.

We know the Rapture is as the days of Noah, and the dove (symbol of the Holy Spirit and of the Bride (Song. of Sol. 2:14) brought an olive leaf (from wild olive branches?) to Noah (which means rest) in the Ark (i.e., Christ, the Saviour) on Av 19. There are many parallels in the Bible. I have been going over some of them last night and today.

Prophesied events cast their shadows ahead of them. As Jonah was a sign unto the Ninevites (dwelling), Jesus was a sign unto "this generation" of 30 AD (Mt. 23:36). Also, as Jesus was a sign unto "this generation" of 30 AD, he seems to also be a sign to "this generation" born in 1967 (Mt. 24:32-34).

Jonah 3:4 says, "And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet FORTY days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown." Mt. 12:40 says, "as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." In Lu. 11:30, Jesus said, "as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to THIS GENERATION." Jesus was 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the Earth in 30 AD. Then there were 40 years to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. When Jesus told the Pharisees, "All these things shall come upon THIS GENERATION" (Mt. 23:36), they had yet 40 years, and Jerusalem would be destroyed.

I think it is the same with "this generation" that saw the fig tree parable of Mt. 24:32-34 fulfilled when Israel took Jerusalem in the Six-Day War of 1967. At that time "this generation" had another 40 years before destruction hits.

Just as it was 40 years plus another 120 days from Nisan 8, when Jesus came to Bethany to Av 10, when the Temple proper was burned in 70 AD, I think it will be 40 years plus another 120 days from Iyar 28, 5727 (June 7, 1967), when Israel regained the temple area, to the destruction of Tishri 1, 5768 (Sept. 13, 2007).

The Rapture parallels the days of Noah. In Mt. 24:37, Jesus said, "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

The Bride of Christ is as a dove, because she is indwelt by the Holy Spirit (whose symbol is a dove). Song of Sol. 2:14 says, "O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely." The word places is not in the original. It is the secret of the stairs, like Jacob's ladder. The top reached Heaven, the bottom was on Earth.

Psa 55:6 says, "Oh that I had wings like a dove! for then would I fly away, and be at rest. Psa. 68:13 promises, "Though ye have lien among the pots, yet shall ye be as (symbolic language) the wings of a dove covered with silver, and her feathers with yellow gold." This reminds us of Saturn, with golden clouds and rings that when tipped look like silver wings.

The dove also is a symbol of the Spirit of Christ. Mk 1:10 says, "And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him" Lu. 3:21-23 says, "Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. And Jesus himself began to be ABOUT THIRTY years of age."

Lu. 4:1,2 says, "Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, Being FORTY DAYS tempted of the devil."

If the Holy Spirit is pictured by the dove that brought the olive leaf to Noah, the coming of Christ at the Rapture might turn out to be on Av 19. It is the day that Noah (meaning rest) "sent forth the dove out of the ark; And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth" (Gen. 8:10,11). In other words, the earth is coming up out of the water as Jesus came up out of the water when baptized in the Jordan.

Consider this parallel. When he was baptized and came up out of the water, he was ABOUT THIRTY years old. Since his birth was as the former rain (Hos. 6:3) on Tishri 1, he was ABOUT THIRTY on Av 19. Then he went into the wilderness FORTY DAYS. FORTY DAYS from Av 19 is Elul 29. The next day is Jesus' birthday, Tishri 1. Lu. 4:14 says that he "returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee."

Galilee means a circle, and suggests Heaven, a sphere that looks like a disk in the sky. I think that at the end of the 40 years from 1967 to 2007, Jesus will appear as the Sign of the Son of Man (Mt. 24:30; Rev. 6:14-16). He will catch away the Tribulation saints and return "in the power of the Spirit into Galilee" (i.e., Heaven).

The Flood was before the Exodus, when the Sacred Calendar began, so dates in Gen. 7 and 8 are according to the Jewish Civil Calendar. Tamuz and Av are in the summer and roughly correspond with our July and August. On the Jewish Talmudic Calendar, Tamuz 1 this year is our July 4. Av 1 is Aug. 2.

Gen. 8:5-11 says, "the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month (Tamuz 1), were the tops of the mountains seen. And it came to pass at the end of forty days (Av 12), that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made...he sent forth a DOVE from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground; But the DOVE found NO REST for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark. And he stayed yet other seven days (Av 19); and again he sent forth the DOVE out of the ark; And the DOVE came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an OLIVE LEAF (symbol of peace) pluckt off: so Noah (rest) knew that the waters (another symbol of the Holy Spirit) were abated FROM OFF THE EARTH." Mt. Ararat was showing. Ararat means holy ground and can represent Heaven.

We are as wild olive branches. Rom. 11:17,18 says, "And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a WILD OLIVE tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree. Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

I wonder if the indwelling Holy Spirit of Christ will fly the dove (Bride) to her rest, Heaven, on Av 19 (Sunday, Aug. 20, 2000)?

Song of Solomon 2:10-14 could fit spring or summer. It says, "My beloved (Christ) spake, and said unto me, RISE UP, my love (the Bride), my fair one, and COME AWAY (i.e., Come hither, Rev. 4:1). For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove) is heard in our land; The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. ARISE, my love, my fair one, and COME AWAY. O my DOVE, that art in the clefts of the rock (in Christ), in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely."

Jn. 15:1 says, "I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman." Jas. 5:7 says, "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain." The early is the former rain that starts Tishri 1. The latter rain starts Nisan 1. Six of the 7 feasts are in either Tishri or Nisan. The only one that isn't is Pentecost.

Lu. 25-31 says, "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars (lit., constellations)...And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that SUMMER is now nigh at hand. So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that THE KINGDOM OF GOD is nigh at hand. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled." This seems to indicate that the Rapture will be in spring or summer.

Last year, on May 22, 1999 (Sivan 7) Pentecost, the new star, NOVA VELORUM, was seen in the sails of the ship ARGO. ARGO represents the Ark and Christ. It has a representation of Christ's face at the waterline and the lion's head above on the prow. This year, on June 6 (Sivan 3), the astonishing double-anchor symbol of hope was seen in the SAME SPOT. Signs have begun to come to pass. Our redemption is nigh. The Kingdom of God is near. Agape

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Re: UR Charter Signing
Have you heard anything about the UR Charter that was scheduled to be signed on June 20, 2000? I haven't seen anything posted as of today - June 29th - Thanks for all your wonderful insight. I join with many others who are "longing for His appearing. Shalom

My reply

It was supposed to be June 26. Here is what I have heard:

FWD: Another sign of the times verifying that Jesus Christ will be here soon to receive those who love His appearing. This is an excellent time to dedicate [or re-dedicate] to Him as Lord of our lives. Come quickly, Lord Jesus! Hallelujah to the Lamb of God! --- Orig. Message ---
Re: French proposal targets 'proselytizing'
The ramifications of the proposal detailed in the following article, are ominous, monumentally so, breathtaking in their profundities, for those of us who discern the infamous parallels in not too distant history. Is this recent French proposal incidental to that momentous occasion that took place at the Carnegie Music Hall on the 26th of June? The same band of "Christian" heretics, many shamans, Wiccan adherents (one self admitted who monitored the event's website during the event) every shade of new-age cultist and no doubt the atheist planners, (that attended the World Parliament of Religions in Chicago some years ago) got together to witness a truly historic event: the signing of a Constitution for a new world religion for all. France, although taking the lead for Europe in this mutually agreed upon event...does so interestingly enough perhaps because of her not yet forgotten experience in the craft of banning Christianity and introducing Satanism, witchcraft and all manner of occult practices. It might be well to study the history of the French Revolution...

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Re: Another Massive Solar Eruption
Noticed a link on www.rense.com about another solar eruption... http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com

My reply

Wow! This must be huge. It doesn't all show in the picture. Thanks. Agape

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Re: This month's issue of BAR
Good lead article in Biblical Archaeology Review about a town next to Nazareth that was greek speaking. Jesus probably spoke at least some greek, it would seem. Would have been hard to avoid it!

What is the original GREEK language for Lu 21:32 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled."? Can you glean anything else from the original Greek? Would it help to clarify whether this means the length of a generation [40 years] or the length of a lifespan [70 years]?

My reply

Thanks. The Greek "genea" won't tell us. What tells us is Mt. 22:36. There, Jesus told the Pharisees, "All these things shall come upon THIS GENERATION." They did, 40 years later, in 70 AD. Jesus was talking about a 40-year generation. Agape

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do you think it is possible that God is revealing the time of Jesus' second coming to the Messianic Jews. I keep reading that midnight Jerusalem time on Rosh HaShanah which would be September 29/30 2000 is the appointed time. If anyone knows they should.

My reply

I don't think a prophet of God is due until the Semetic Moses and Elijah come at the beginning of the Tribulation. What Tishri 1, 5761 may be is the end of the 7 good years that started when Israel ratified the Oslo Accords in Jerusalem on Tishri 1, 5754. The Accords were signed on Sept. 13, 1993 and ratified in Israel 3 days later, on Tishri 1. The amazing thing is that if you start with Sept. 13, 1993 and add 7 good years and 7 bad years, as when Joseph was in Egypt, you come to Sept. 13, 2007. If you start with Tishri 1, 5754, add the 14 years, you come to Tishri 1, 5768, which is Sept. 13, 2007. To me, that smacks of something the Lord would arrange--a good sign that we are in the end times.

I think the Bible tells us that the Second Advent will be on Nisan 1. It makes good sense for it is the beginning of the Jewish Regnal Year and Sacred year--Regnal because Christ is the King of kings, Sacred because he is our High Priest. I think he will take office on Earth at the same time all the other Israelite kings officially took office. The years of their reign were counted from Nisan 1, regardless of when they actually began to rule. Our president is elected and then inaugurated later. Similarly, I think Christ will be crowned in Heaven on Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets, then will arrive on Earth the following Nisan 1.

We know from Eze. 39:12 that there are 7 months between the 2 dates. Therefore, it is a Jewish Leap Year (I think 5768).

Eze. 29:17 sets the day: "in the first month, in the first day of the month." We know this is Nisan 1, for Eze. 45:21 lists Passover in the "first month." Then Eze. 29:21 says, "In that day will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth (the Word, the Logos) in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD."

In De. 11:14, the Lord said, "I will give you the rain of your land (Israel) in his (Christ's) due season, the first rain (former rain) and the latter rain." Hos. 6:3 agrees. It says, "the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth." The former rain (i.e., his First Advent) starts on Tishri 1. The latter rain (i.e., his Second Advent) starts on Nisan 1.

Joel 2:23 agrees too. It says, "he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month." In Scripture, when the month is given without a day number, we are to understand the first of the month, because the word for month is the word for the new moon, which is the first of the month on their lunar calendar. The former rain indicates Tishri 1, the latter rain, Nisan 1. Agape

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I was in Yarmouth, Maine this past weekend visiting the gal who introduced me to the Lord 19 years ago and I had my very first ever dream about the rapture - actually there was two one after the other - I am REALLY looking for it to happen soon - Thank you so much for being a faithful servant and sharing what you know

I BELIEVE!

My reply

SO DO I.

That would be a neat thing to dream about. Thanks for sharing it with me. Every day is one day closer. It doesn't look like it could be very far away. Things prophesied for the Tribulation are all coming together. I had no idea we would see as much of it as we have already. The PLO has announced that they will declare a Palestinian State Sept. 13, whether there is a Final Status Agreement or not. One World Government now even has their flag displayed on the Internet. I'm sure glad God has everything under his control. Things could get out of hand quickly otherwise. When the salt of the Earth is gone, I believe things will come together in a big hurry. Everything seems poised, ready. Agape

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FWD: GAZA, June 13 (UPI) -- Speaker of the Palestinian National Council Salim Za'noon said Wednesday that the Palestinian Central Council, which convenes on July 2, will approve the declaration of a Palestinian state.

Za'noon told Palestinian radio that the Palestinian state will be declared according to the agreed date, which is September 13 "even in case of not reaching a permanent solution between Israel and the Palestinian authority."

He said that the invitations were already sent to 125 members in the PCC, which is the mini Palestinian parliament in exile after the PNC..."

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Re: UR Signing
I didn't want to add to the long list of email you get daily, but am wondering if you have heard whether the signing happened. I listened to the news expectantly, but heard nothing. My heart is in travail for the unsaved in my family, community, and even those not aware of the times.

As you say we need to watch, and be aware, so I will continue to check your site to see what the news hasn't told us. Thank you for your faithfulness, and I look forward to meeting you (as many probably do) after the Rapture. Agape

My reply

I haven't gone to their site to check, but assume it got signed on schedule. The One World Government flag is now pictured on the Internet. The 3rd secret of Fatima was released Monday. You can tell it is not of God. From the article, "Vatican releases Fatima 'secret,' in the Riverside, CA, Press-Enterprise, "the Angel cried out in a loud voice: 'Penance, Penance, Penance!'

There were "two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God," as if the blood of anyone other than Christ would count. It is just a little twisted.

"The first 'secret' of Fatima was a vision of hell; the second predicted World War II and warned that the collapse of communism would require that Russia be consecrated to the Virgin."

Not a word about Christ. He was left out of it. Agape

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Re: One World Flag
http://www.oneworldflag.org
http://.cuttingedge.org/news/n1094.cfm

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Re: Gorbachev at the Vatican
I enjoy your site so much. It keeps me watching and praying. I always look forward to your new posts daily.

I came across this short article in our local paper yesterday. I was wondering if it might have any prophetic significance.

Gorbachev OK around Vatican
He sat between two clerics, quoted the pope and helped plug a book recounting a cardinal's battle against church repression in the Soviet bloc. Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev's poor ratings are sagging at home, but he has become a popular figure at the Vatican after forging a friendship with Pope John Paul II.
Gorbachev sat on a dais (a raised platform above the floor of a hall)yesterday along with two cardinals, the Italian foreign minister and the president of the European Union's commission to promote the book The Martyrdom of Patience, the memories of Cardinal Agostino Casaroli.

Our time is indeed short. I am homesick. I have my spiritual bags packed and am watching and praying.

My reply

That's a strange alliance, and prophetic events cast their shadows ahead of them. Keep watching. I'm surprised that we have seen as much as we already have. Agape

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Re: September 29th 2000
this website (http://members.aol.com/lovethejew/) belongs to Mark Anderson. He is truly a Man of God with the gift of Prophecy and Wisdom. Study this site and you shall learn the Truth.
Tribe of Benjamin

My reply

There are things that I disagree with on that site. I do think that the Day of God's Wrath, and therefore the attack on Israel by Gog's army, will take place on Tishri 1 (Rosh HaShannah), but not in 2000. I think it will be in 2007. Here are some things I disagree with in ROSH HASHANAH 6000:

> > YEAR 4000 (the end of the 4th day) - Yeshua HaMashiach is born at the Jewish festival of Sukkot. Luke 2:10-12

Luke didn't mention Sukkot. I think Jesus came as the former rain on Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets in BC 5. Hos. 6:3 says, "Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth." The former rain starts Tishri 1. The latter rain starts Nisan 1. Eze. 29:17,21 shows that the Second Advent will be on Nisan 1.

> > YEAR 6000 - September 29, 2000 - the BIG ONE, Rosh HaShanah...The Rapture will begin....America will be destroyed in one hour after the Rapture by an all out nuclear attack by Russia. Russia may also decide to destroy other countries as well at this time (South America, Mexico, Canada, notably the entire Western hemisphere will be a wasteland). Revelation states "Babylon has fallen, has fallen". This eludes to the fact that two babylons fall in the seven year period. The daughter & the Mother. Revelation 18:10...The Russian Alliance and Saddam Hussein will shout for joy over the destruction of what the Islamic people call "The Great Satan", the USA.

I think the army under Gog (Eze. 38) will attack Israel on Tishri 1, 2007, not America in 2000. The Rapture that comes on that day is the Pre-Wrath Rapture, not the Pre-Trib Rapture. I think the destruction of Rev. 18:21 will destroy literal Babylon in Iraq, forming the Lake of Fire in that location. It will cover 181.8 miles (Rev. 14:20).

> > In heaven, the believers are experiencing their new glorified body and witnessing the coronation of their soon to be husband Yeshua as king. The Torah will most likely be read by Yeshua to his soon-to-be bride Nehemiah 8:2. The believers will each be judged on their good works 1 Corinth 3:13. A wedding ceremony will begin and the believers and Yeshua will begin a 7 year honeymoon as in the ancient wedding custom of the Jews (the newlyweds would enter into a wedding chamber together for 7 days to passionately celebrate their new union). Isaiah 26:20 John 14:2-3

I think the Coronation, Marriage of the Lamb and Judgment Seat of Christ will take place on Tishri 1, 2007, as the 7 months of Eze. 39:12 begin, not in 2000.

He says on another file that if not this Rosh HaShanah, then some Rosh HaShanah, which shows that he is not a prophet. Agape

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Re: 2 Sabbath's
I ran across this page. I have not yet studied it but it seems to make more sense. Take a look.
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/pentecost.htm

My reply

In "Is Pentecost Always On Sunday?," the author disproves H. M. Riggle's idea that Pentecost is always on Sunday. As you say, it does seem to make more sense.

He quotes Mat 16:21: "From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day." Thus, he thinks Passover, which is on the 14th, not a certain day, Unleavened Bread and Firstfruits are always three successive days, regardless of what day of the week they fall on. I agree with him on that. From Josephus, we can see that they are the 14th, 15th, and 16th too. The Feast of Unleavened Bread was called a Sabbath, as all the feasts were, because no work was to be done on those days. They were days of rest, and Sabbath means rest.

What I differ with this author on is how the 50 days were to be counted until Pentecost. He counts them inclusively. I do not think they should be counted inclusively. It took me a long time to get it through my head when to use inclusive reckoning and when not to. When a certain group of days, such as June 5-10 in the Six-Day War, were referred to, that segment was counted inclusively. There was the Six-Day War (5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th), not the Five-Day War (10 - 5 = 5).

However, when continuous time was counted FROM a certain date, it was not counted inclusively, else, as someone emailed me, a week would become shorter by one day every week. Therefore, I think that in the counting of the Omer, Nisan 17 is day number 1. Since Nisan 16 was on Sunday in 30 AD, we would say that one week later was the next Sunday, two weeks later was the following Sunday, until we reached the 7th week on Sunday. That was 49 days, 7 x 7 = 49. Then, the 50th day, Monday, was Pentecost.

I agree that Pentecost is not always on Sunday, but I think it will fall on the day after whatever day of the week Nisan 16 falls on.

The author says, "Whatever day of the week firstfruits occurs on, Pentecost will also fall on, i.e., a Sunday firstfruits means a Sunday Pentecost. A Monday firstfruits would mean a Monday Pentecost, but Pentecost would always be 6 Sivan in any case."

I think it will be Sivan 7. Agape

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I noticed that everyone started seeing double rainbows and telling you about them, then i started to think maybe they were making it up, because this many sightings of double rainbows seemed unusual, but then just yesterday, the 29th, i saw the brightest, and extremely closest double rainbow ever, it was the 2nd time in my life i have seen a double. i also wanted to apologize to everyone for doubting the sightings. love in Christ

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Just a quick note to let you know how COOL Jesus is. I always follow the pros and cons and have noticed of late the numerous sightings of rainbows. Well yesterday I was asking Jesus how come I never get to see any and did this mean the Rapture would happen without me. Guess what? Late in the afternoon I decided to watch the local news, which is rare for me, and they showed a beautiful RAINBOW from the news helicopter live. And they kept going back and reshowing the rainbow several times! How's that for answered prayer! Love to you and all those who love HIS APPEARING.

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