...I still favor September 13, as we had discussed. Hang on Marilyn, you and I both are being persecuted, and hanging on financially by a thread. Father, strengthen both Marilyn and I in the Holy Spirit, so we may resist the evil one, that old serpent, until you come Lord Jesus. In Jesus name I pray, Amen
I would expect that would be two of the primary tasks of the supercomputer eventually overseeing this system.
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As you know I agree with 99 percent of what you suggest about the two raptures. However when reading one contributor last week in P& C 567 who, correctly in my view, put the case against a PARTIAL first rapture, I decided to write to you about this important subject, as major doctrinal errors often start with small things as I shall illustrate.
It is vital to get correct dispensational alignment when trying to prove something from scripture. Incorrect understanding of the various dispensations can lead to major error such as replacement theology, loss of salvation etc.
In order to prove the partial first rapture theory, you use three scriptures, Matt 25 1-13 (the ten virgins) and Luke 21.36 (where we are told to pray so that we are counted worthy, and Rev 3.16 re the Laodiceans. Here are a few points to show that your use of these verses may be out of context, and in particular out of context dispensationally.
a) God deals separately in his dealings with the Jews compared to others, (including the church) and the gentile unbelievers. This is most clearly illustrated by Him setting up an entirely distinct race of people with a unique priestly system and legal system.Jesus spent nearly all of his time teaching directly first the Jews, and then when the leaders had rejected him, his diciples who were all Jews. He did not minister any teaching to the Gentiles at that time, and only on a few occasions did he have any scriptural contact with them.Paul refers to the dispensations, and the necessity to correctly divide the word of God.
Jesus is talking to the disciples and not the gentile church when he is describing the tribulation and subsequently the ten virgins in |Matt 24 and 25.His remarks are wholly meant for the Jewish nation, and should be taken in context with the forgoing passage which describes the things which are going to take place during the tribulation and the reign of the antichrist.
b) THE TEN VIRGINS ARE NOT THE BRIDE. You seem to be suggesting that in some way Jesus is going to marry some of them and not the others. This cannot be correct for the following reasons. First of all it is against the law to marry five people and Jesus would not do it. It is interesting that the CHURCH (the real bride of Christ) IS NOT MENTIONED IN THIS PASSAGE. Why ? Virgins were, in the ' bride queen' system, always attendants to the bride, rather like bridesmaids are today. The reason that they were waiting for the bridegroom in the Matthew passage, is that the MARRIAGE HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE, and they were waiting for Him to return with his bride. In a Jewish wedding of the times, the reception was held AFTER the consummation of the marriage and not before like our western system. Luke 12.36 refers to this in a similar context. 'let you loins be girded about, and your LIGHTS BURNING and ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, WHEN HE WILL RETURN FROM THE WEDDING
In Matt 25 verse 10 the word 'marriage' is a bad translation and it would be clearer if it had said ' they that were ready went in with him to the WEDDING RECEPTION'.(gk word ga-mos, wedding festival)
c) If you get b) above wrong, it leads (as does all dispensational errors) in to doctrinal error which is far more serious. In this case it would lead the error in the direction of loss of salvation, ('verily I say unto you (the 5 foolish virgins) I know you not'). There is no way that Our Lord would say ' I know you not' to people who were at some stage believers. It would be a lie anyway because he would know them if he had known them before. You can't un-know someone.
I am aware that your position is that the foolish virgins do not lose their salvation, but instead get chastened in the tribulation to make them worthy, but this error also falls out of the first one. We now have two sorts of error emanating from the one dispensational error. I think that you have mixed up the subject of the rapture with the answer given by Jesus to the diciples question 'when shall these things be and what shall be the sign of THY COMING and of the end of the world? (Matt 24.3) i.e his second coming.
d) Notice that the first word of Matthew 25 is the word THEN, and describes the kingdom of heaven after all the troubles described in Matt 24. These troubles are described as JACOB'S trouble, clearly identifying them with the Jews, and part of the chastening process bringing the remnant back to belief in Yeshua.
e) Another verse that you frequently use to support the partial first rapture is Rev 3.15 ('I will spue thee out of my mouth), and the only way this stacks up is to assume that because they had been in his mouth they are therefore believers.
Have you ever drunk some milk that has been seriously rancid? When you do, you make quite certain that it is NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO ENTER YOUR BODY, and as a result you expel it from the small area where items are prepared for entry into the body, i.e. the mouth.
I do not think that this verse can be applied to true born again believers. I think that it refers to the 'religious' unbelievers of many denominations (including some in evangelicalism) who may be in close proximity, but worship the 'ism' rather than the Lord.
f) I think the person who wrote the item in P&C 576 dealt adequately with the fact that no one is worthy other than the Lamb of God and so that as we are all unworthy we all rank the same in relation to the first rapture, and providing we are true, born again, bible believing covered with the blood believers, there will be no distinction which leaves some behind. Certainly the example of the virgins should not be used to support that view.
See you soon, (providing one or other of us is not left behind !!) Agape.
II Tim. 3:16 says, "ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." Mt. 24:38 speaks of the Rapture being as the days of Noah. Mt. 24:41,42 says, "Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come." Are you going to tell me that only the Jews are to watch for the Lord's coming? Mt. 24:45,46 says, "Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing." The due season is when the Lord's coming is due. This carries over into our days, and certainly applies to more than just Jews.
> > THE TEN VIRGINS ARE NOT THE BRIDE. You seem to be suggesting that in some way Jesus is going to marry some of them and not the others. This cannot be correct for the following reasons. First of all it is against the law to marry five people and Jesus would not do it.
Then why did the Lord marry Israel at Sinai? According to your reasoning, he "would not do it," but he did. You also forget that Mt. 24:50,51 says that the evil servant is to be cut off. It says, "The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall CUT HIM ASUNDER, and appoint him HIS PORTION (2300 days of the Tribulation, Dan. 8:14) with the HYPOCRITES (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Lu. 12:46 also states this: "The lord of that servant (the foolish one) will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will CUT HIM IN SUNDER (lit., cut him off), and will appoint him HIS PORTION with the UNBELIEVERS." These that are to be cut off and appointed their portion of the Tribulation with the unbelievers are believers, just foolish believers that don't have enough of the oil of the Holy Spirit to keep their lamps burning brightly. They believed, therefore they went forth to meet the bridegroom" (Mt. 25:1). They call him "Lord" (Mt. 25:11). Unbelievers do not do that.
> > the MARRIAGE HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE, and they were waiting for Him to return with his bride.
Then why does it say, "they that were ready WENT IN WITH HIM to the MARRIAGE: AND THE DOOR WAS SHUT" (Mt. 25:10)? The marriage could not have already taken place. The Bride could not return with him on this trip because she was not yet with him. She was still on Earth.
> > Luke 12.36 refers to this in a similar context. let your loins be burded about, and ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when HE WILL RETURN FROM THE WEDDING"
That is a different event. It is after the Marriage of the Lamb has taken place.
> > In Matt 25 verse 10 the word 'marriage' is a bad translation and it would be clearer if it had said ' they that were ready went in with him to the WEDDING RECEPTION'.(gk word ga-mos, wedding festival)
The same word (gamos, nuptials, marriage, wedding) is also used in Rev. 19:7-9. It says, "Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage (gamos) of the Lamb is come, and his WIFE (not bridesmaids) hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage (gamos) supper (deipnon) of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God."
> > There is no way that Our Lord would say ' I know you not' to people who were at some stage believers. It would be a lie anyway
Be careful. You don't want to say that the Lord lies.
> > I think that you have mixed up the subject of the rapture with the answer given by Jesus to the diciples question 'when shall these things be and what shall be the sign of THY COMING and of the end of the world? (Matt 24.3) i.e his second coming.
We have to rightly divide the word of truth. Jesus was asked what would be THE SIGN of his coming and of the "suntelias tou aionos," the completion of the age." The Sign of the Son of Man, described in Mt. 24:30 and Rev. 6:14f, is seen in the sky when the 6th seal has been broken on the last day of this age. At 6:00 PM that day, "the great day of his wrath is come" (v. 17). The Day of God's Wrath is the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord. This day is not even the Second Coming, which is 7 months later on (Eze. 39:12,13).
> > Notice that the first word of Matthew 25 is the word THEN, and describes the kingdom of heaven after all the troubles described in Matt 24. These troubles are described as JACOB'S trouble, clearly identifying them with the Jews\
"THEN" of Mt. 25:1 follows Mt. 24:51,51, which says, "The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall CUT HIM ASUNDER, and appoint him HIS PORTION (2300 days of the Tribulation, Dan. 8:14) with the HYPOCRITES (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." These passages are both talking about some believers getting cut off and left behind.
> > Matt 24. These troubles are described as JACOB'S trouble, clearly identifying them with the Jews, and part of the chastening process bringing the remnant back to belief in Yeshua.
It is true that Mt. 24:29-31 is talking about the DAY of Jacob's trouble (i.e., Day of God's Wrath) and that it is a chastening. However, the Laodiceans are to be chastened too, but they will be caught up in the Pre-Wrath Rapture just before God's wrath falls on unbelievers. In Rev. 3:18,19, Jesus tells the lukewarm Laodiceans, "I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and CHASTEN: be zealous therefore, and repent."
> > Another verse that you frequently use to support the partial first rapture is Rev 3.15 ('I will spue thee out of my mouth), and the only way this stacks up is to assume that because they had been in his mouth they are therefore believers. > > Have you ever drunk some milk that has been seriously rancid? When you do, you make quite certain that it is NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO ENTER YOUR BODY, and as a result you expel it from the small area where items are prepared for entry into the body, i.e. the mouth.
> > I do not think that this verse can be applied to true born again believers.
These believers are in the stomach. In Rev. 3:15-17, the Lord said unto "THE CHURCH of the Laodiceans," " I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue (EMESAI, VOMIT) thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked."
> > we all rank the same in relation to the first rapture, and providing we are true, born again, bible believing covered with the blood believers, there will be no distinction which leaves some behind.
Dost thou "sayest, I...have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked"?
> > See you soon, (providing one or other of us is not left behind!!)
Then pay attention to what Jesus said in Lu. 21:36: "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."
To be worthy, we must use I John 1:9 and confess all our known sins so the Lord can cleanse us of all unrighteousness. When Peter did not want Jesus to wash his feet, "Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast NO PART WITH ME" (Jn. 13:8). The Tribulation saints have to learn that lesson. Rev. 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." You see, they had robes to start with, but they were soiled by the flesh. They needed white wedding garments and did not have them at the first Rapture. Only after chastening did they learn what they needed to do. Some learn their lessons the easy way, others learn the hard way. Suit yourself. There are two Raptures. If you want to be part of the Bride of Christ, you must be worthy at the first Rapture. If you are not ready at that time, Jesus will say, "THOU HAST NO PART WITH ME" (Jn. 13:8), just as he told Peter. If you continue thinking that he won't say anything like that to the foolish virgins, you are in danger of finding it out too late to be part of the Bride of Christ. The Laodiceans say, "I...have need of nothing" too.
How do you think the foolish virgins got to be called virgins if they were not believers? At the 2nd Rapture, the 144,000 are the only ones called virgins, so they are probably the only ones of the Tribulation saints to join the Bride group. They "are WITHOUT FAULT before the throne of God," and "no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are VIRGINS." Agape
The "entering" part is 4/5 of the way through the psalm, and my theory is that this corresponds to 4/5 of the way through 2000.
The 4th of the 5 sections of the year 2000 would be from day 219 to day 291, which would be from Aug 6 (yesterday) thru October 13. So IT WOULD include Av 9, Av 19, and Rosh Hashana after all. Hmmm again......
I have never had any reassurance that these Psalms stood for years in our days. Psa. 98:1 says, "O sing unto the LORD a new song." That is sung after the 1st Rapture (Rev. 5:9), which did not happen in 1998, or in 1996, as Psa. 96:1 says the same thing. However Psa. 100 and 107 sure could tie in. Maybe only certain ones tie in. Psa. 107:41-43 says, "Yet setteth he the poor ON HIGH from affliction, and maketh him families like a flock. The righteous shall see it, and rejoice: and all iniquity shall stop her mouth. Whoso is WISE, and will observe these things, even THEY SHALL UNDERSTAND the lovingkindness of the LORD." That does suggest the Pr-Wrath Rapture and Daniel's statement that the wise shall understand.
Psa. 100's "COME before his presence with SINGING" fits Rev. 4:1; 5:9. "ENTER INTO HIS GATES" fits the Rapture too. I hope this one does fit. Your time slot, Aug 6 thru October 13, seems reasonable. Sept. 13, 2000 (Elul 13, 5760) is the end of the 7 good years since the Oslo Accords were signed Sept. 13, 1993 and 7 bad years before I expect the Day of God's Wrath on Sept. 13, 2007. The Harvest Moon is Sept. 13, 2000. Summer is still here until the first day of autumn comes Sept. 22. The turtledoves are in Israel until October. Tishri 1, the time of the former rain, does not start until Sept. 30. The vintage starts in Elul.
Joseph was associated with the 7 good years and the 7 bad years. What do you think De. 33:13,14 refers to? It says, "of Joseph he said, Blessed of the LORD be his land, for the precious things of heaven, for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath, And for the precious fruits brought forth by the sun, and for the precious things put forth by the moon." What are the "precious things put forth by the MOON"?
Psa. 104:19 is interesting. It says, "He appointed the MOON for seasons: the sun (i.e., Christ, as the Sun of Righteousness, Mal. 4:2) KNOWETH his going down." Song of Sol. 6:9,10 says, "My DOVE...Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the MOON, clear as the sun (no rain clouds), and terrible as an ARMY with banners?" The Harvest Moon is fair because it is the full moon. There could be more to these than we have been able to see.
Song of Sol. 2:10-14 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing...is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land; The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. O my DOVE, that art in the clefts of the rock (i.e., in Christ), in the secret...of the stairs (like Jacob's ladder), let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely." I left out the words "of birds" and "places" because they are not in the original. The singing is probably the new song, and this is the secret of the stairs. It fits these days. Agape
> > The Bible tells us that Jesus Christ will return at the end of a World War in which many nations are gathered against Israel ... known as Armageddon.
Rev. 19:11-16 tells about the Second Advent. Not until Rev. 19:17-21 do we have Armageddon. It is Satan's last ditch stand after dominion is taken from him at the Judgment of the Nations. It is Christ's forces against Satan's forces. Therefore, it must be AFTER the Second Advent.
The war of Eze. 38 comes 7 months BEFORE Christ's return, and Armageddon follows that. Eze. 38:18-20 says, "it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY shall come up in my face. For in my jealousy and in the fire of MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in that day (Day of God's Wrath) there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel (the great mountain burning with fire impacts the Mediterranean Sea, Zeph. 2:4,5); So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth (worldwide earthquake), shall shake at my presence (paneh, face, i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man, Mt. 24:30; Rev. 6:14f), and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground." Rev. 16:18,19 says, " there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath."
Eze. 39:12,13 says, "SEVEN MONTHS shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified (the Second Advent), saith the Lord GOD." Armageddon takes place after the Second Advent. Jesus does not set his feet on Earth on the Day of God's Wrath. The Sign of the Son of Man is seen in the sky on the Day of God's Wrath, though. Agape
I agree with parts and disagree with parts. I think Jesus was crucified on Thurs., Nisan 13, on "the PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER" (Jn. 19:14-16). Jn. 19:31 says, "it was the PREPARATION, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day [the Passover day of rest], (for that sabbath day was an high day [a feast day],) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."
All 7 feasts were sabbaths, which means rest. They were all "holy convocations," days of rest. Lev. 23:37 says, "These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations." Verse 7 says, "In the first day (of Unleavened Bread), ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein."
Nisan 14, the Passover (Lev. 23:5) started at 6 PM Thursday. The lambs were killed between the evenings, between 3 and 5 PM on the 13th so they could be roasted and ready to eat between 6 PM and midnight, 6 hours after Nisan 14 began. That is the ONLY midnight Nisan 14 has. The midnight following that would be Nisan 15, the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Jesus died around 3 PM on Nisan 13th as they began to kill the lambs.
The 3 days and 3 nights of Mt. 12:40 were Thursday (day), Friday (night then day), Saturday (night then day) and Sunday (night). Everything fits perfectly. Sunday was Nisan 16, the Feast of Firstfruits.
What we need to remember to keep it all straight is that the Jewish day started with 12 hours of night followed by 12 hours of day. We are so used to thinking that day is followed by night, that if we think that our midnight is the Passover, we have missed the Jew's Passover midnight by one whole day. If we think in terms of Jewish days, where night comes first, everything falls into place easily. Their midnight is just 6 hours after that date began at 6 PM.
John 12:1,12-14 says, "Jesus six days before the passover (Nisan 14) came to Bethany...the next day much people...Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon."
He arrived in Bethany around 6 PM, Sat., Nisan 8, and ate food that had been prepared on the day of preparation of the sabbath. The next day was Palm Sunday. The 6 days were (1) Sat, Nisan 8, (2) Sun., Nisan 9, (3) Mon. Nisan 10, (4) Tue., Nisan 11, (5) Wed., Nisan 12, and (6) Thurs., Nisan 13, the preparation of the Passover when Jesus was crucified. Agape
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