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> Upcoming Radio Interview, Feb. 3
> On "Beyond Reason" with Teddy Bart and Karlen Evins, 1240 WKDA,
> Nashville, TN, 12:00 to 1:00 P.M. Central Time

Since this seems to be a local radio broadcast only in that area only, is this going to be something you are going to record and then offer to the public? How can we get a copy of it, and in what form will it be available, cost, etc.?

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I was pleased that we were able to cover so much ground in one hour. It was certainly a pleasure to talk with them.

Re: tapes. The following is all I know.
The radio station copyrights the programs and distributes tapes of them, both to the public and to other radio stations. Beyond Reason is played by tape delay in some cities.
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Hi Marilyn - I really enjoyed your radio interview today. great job!

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Thanks. I enjoyed doing it.

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FROM: Clarence H. Wagner, Jr., Bridges of Peace, Jerus., 1-30-98

Residents of the northern community of Kfar Hassidim announced with sorrow recently that the red heifer that they had been raising had become unfit for ritual use. Hairs on its tail were found to be whitening, rendering it not totally red, and therefore unfit to be used in the purification process for service in a future Holy Temple. The residents are hopeful that the cow will bear red calves that will be able to be used for this purpose. (Arutz 7)
"Haaretz" newspaper correspondent, Tom Segev, revealed in a column which appeared in the 26 January, 1998 issue that while he was traveling in Belarus with former Prime Minister Shimon Peres, Peres told him that "ever since 1967 he has supported the idea of a Palestinian state...[but that] the idea of a Palestinian state could not be sprung upon the Israeli public without a long preparatory maturing process. I [Segev] commented that Uri Avneri had had the courage to talk about that idea thirty years ago and Peres said that this was precisely the point. Left wing activist, Uri Avneri, found himself thrown into the sidelines of Israeli society and was viewed as someone who was representing the Arab, and not the Israeli side. By not voicing his views, Peres was able to do a few other things in the meantime." (Aaron Lerner - IMRA)"

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I used to be sceptical about your message "Rapture Pentecost 1998" until I went myself to study the number 153 (John 21.11) and the hints given in the scripture for the date of rapture. I got more and more convinced that Pentecost 1998 is the date of rapture indeed.... As you may see I don't agree with your view of two raptures. I expect the rapture to be the beginning of the last week of Daniel and after it the Return of our Lord Jesus Christ in glory to save Israel and to establish his kindom of peace. But you will see the date of rapture "Pentecost 1998" is confirmed in many ways....

Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. (Amos 3,7)

In John 21.11 is given the reference of Jesus waiting at sea shore for a meal with his disciples while Peter is drawing a net out of the water full with fishes. The number of fishes is 153 (factored that is added with transposed digits it results in: 153+135+513+531+315+351=1998). This points to the time when the full number of gentiles have come in (Rom. 11.25) and the net is drawn out of the sea (rapture) and they who have entered will sup with Jesus. This reminds of Rev. 3.20 where is spoken to the end time church Laodizea: "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." And Luk. 12.36: "And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately."
2. Kings 1 is the Old Testament reference to the number 153. Three groups of fifties and their heads (3*51=153) appear before Elijah. Two of them are consumed by fire, the last group remains. It is of course very significant that this number 153 occurs in the last event mentioned just before the rapture of Elijah.

The 153 men who appear before Elijah are represented by three heads of 50 and their 50 followers. This gives to us the key to understand each head as signifier of a "50" which independently leads to the date of rapture:
* The first head of 50 signifies the Signs and Seasons
* The second head of 50 signifies the Year
* The third head of 50 signifies the Month and Day

(1) Nun (fish)=50

# End of Pisces (net of fishes drawn) 1998 and start of Aquarius 1998 (Days of Noah)
# Joshua son of Nun (=fish) leads to rest (=Noah)

Nun is the Hebrew letter signifying the number "50". This letter has also the meaning "fish" in Hebrew. There are two references to the Signs and Seasons: the astronomical reference and the typological reference.

Astronomical reference
The stars have been given to us with a special purpose "let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years" (Gen. 1.14). In this way God is speaking to Job and says: "Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth (zodiacal signs) in his season?" (Job38,32). Jesus said at his Last Supper about the coming kingdom of God: "For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God." (Luk. 22,16). Pointing to this time of the closing age and the fulfillment in the kingdom of God (Rev. 3.20) there have been given two specific signs both in aspect of a meal which he had together with his disciples.

The first sign was given to the disciples when they asked where the Last Supper would be eaten: “And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in." (Luk. 22.10). The other sign was given of Jesus to his disciples after his resurrection when he held the meal at the sea shore with them and the net with 153 fishes was drawn out of the water according to the word of the Lord (John 21).

This two signs speak about one event which will be fulfilled at the closing of the age when

* a man bearing a pitcher, enters his house
* the fishes are drawn out of the sea

The word "to enter a house" is commonly used in the meaning "entering the constellation" by astronomers. This means the time of the the meal with Jesus Christ in heaven will be at this time when

* Aquarius (bearer of water) takes its place and is entering his house
* the constellation of fishes is left (fishes are drawn out of water).

As you will know there is a seasonal clock in the night sky, the precession of the earth which leads to the changing of the zodiacal constellation at spring equinox about every 2000 years (25780 years for a whole round). The time for the celebration of the Christian Pentecost is directly dependent on this spring equinox refered to! Easter is celebrated at the sunday after the first full moon after spring equinox and Pentecost seven weeks later. During the whole Christian era from 0-1998 AD the equinox was moving in the zodiacal sign "pisces"=fishes in direction Aquarius. As has been shown in onother preceeding letter by me the Greek term for fish is "ichtus" which has been used by the first Christians as an acroistic for "I-esus|CH-ristos|TH-eos|hU-ios|S-oter": Jesus Christ God Son and Saviour" in this way the age of "fishes" is designating the Christian era. Just at this time there is a change about to take place in the zodiacal signs. The season of Pisces is closing (the net of fishes is drawn out) and the border of "Aquarius" the next zodiacal constellation is reached, so that this constellation is signifying the spring equinox instead.
Aquarius points "the pouring out" of judgment on the earth and after it to the pouring out of the Holy Spirit on all flesh when "the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea." Hab. 2.14. This is the Millenium. We know about the comet Hale Bopp which appeared last year as extraordanary sign in the sky. This comet was last time seen here on earth in the days of Noah. 1998 is the year of Noah, it is the Hebrew Year 5758 spelled in Hebrew SheT Noach=Position of Noach. We are told in Matth. 24, 37 that: "as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." The season of Noah the pouring out of judgment on the earth (Aquarius) is reached 1998 and at this time the 153 fishes which also lead to 1998 when factored are drawn out (the constellation Pisces is left). The year of rapture is the closing of the age of Gentiles (6000=years=6days are fulfilled) and the beginning of the 7-year judgement at the start of the DAY OF THE LORD=Millenium=1000 years=Sabbath.

Typological reference
Noach in Hebrew means Rest:

*heavenly rest for the raptured (Henoch)
*tribulation and rest in the land for Israel (preserved in the ark)
*judgment over the nations (the earth flooded by delusion and destruction).

Joshua, son of Nun=50=fish (called Jesus Hebr.4.8) is a type for Jesus Christ who leads to true rest. There is a clear connection between this Joshua, son of Nun and Elijah. Elijah came from Jericho to cross from there the Jordan on dry ground by splitting the waters while 50 prophets were watching him from afar (2.Kings 2). Elijah was raptured just at that place where Israel stood before crossing the split waters of the Jordan to take Jericho under the headship of Joshua the son of Nun. In this way we see: Josua the son of Nun=50 and Elijah and the 50 prophets watching are part of one picture. Joshua ( Jesus Christ) will lead Israel to rest in the promised land just at that place (time) where Elijah was (when the saints are) raptured into heavenly rest. When the fulness of Gentiles has entered through rapture, God will turn to Israel and Jesus Christ, their Messias, will lead Israel through the tribulation to rest. He will be their king, slay their enimies, give to them the whole land and he will make them the ruling nation of the earth according to the promises God gave them.

(2) Jubilee=50
# 1998 is Israels 50th anniversary

Jubilee refers to the 50th year the year all things are returned to the original owner and all captives are set free. It is the restitution of all things. (Lev. 25). Acts 3.21 speaks about Jubilee: "Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began." That means Jesus is in heaven until the Jubilee=restitution of all things. Then he will come and rapture the fulness of the Gentiles and the blindness of Israel is on the way to be taken away: "FOR I would not, brethren that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits, that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in (Rom. 11.25). The Jubilee refers to Israel it is a Jewish Feast. 1998 is the 50th birthday, the first Jubilee of Israel since it was declared to be a state on 14th of May 1998.
We are told in 1. Tess. 5. 3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief." The term "Peace and safety" is the same as "Peace and security" in Greek. Peace and Security is the name of the contract of Israel with the Palestinensians. Everyone who knows the scripture knows for sure that this is not the peace promised to Israel. But this is the time when Jesus will come as a thief in the night. And this time is now in the Jubilee of Israel 1998. We are not of darkness but regard the signs of time and the hints given in the scripture. The sudden destruction is the uprising of the delusive and cruel 666 system here on earth immediatly after the rapture.

(3) Pentecost=50
# 31th of May 1998
Pentecost originates in Greek pentekostos=50th and signifies the celebrated 50th day after Pessach. 1998 is the 50th Pentecost held in the new Jewish state of Israel. The number 153 with transposed digits => 5-31 = 31th of May shows the date for Pentecost 1998. Pentecost falls every year on another date 1998 it falls exactly on a date which is expressed in the transposed digits of 153 which again results when factored in 1998. This is very significant, because only in few years Pentecost falls on either 5-31 or 5-13.
Again the sum of 05+31+19+98 is 153!!! This is the confirmation of the date encoding of Pentecost = 5-31 1998 in the 153 fishes. Pentecost is the feast of firstfruit, the end of grain harvest, and it there is strong evidence that on this feast of firstfruits the firstfruits (James 1.18) are raptured to heaven. The date of Jubilee, the 50th birthday of Israel and Pentecost are interlinked by 17: 14+17 of May 1998 = 31th of May 1998. 17 is the number spezified by 153 in a spezial way 1+2+3+....17=153.
Rapture Pentecost 5-31 fits further exactly into this three week time window when Jerusalem is yet 30 years (borne 7 June 1967) old and Israel already 50 years (borne 14 May 1948) old (Numbers 4:43).

Let us now join these three heads of 50 each pointing independently to 1998:

Nun (fish)  Jubilee   Pentecost  = Pentecost
50  + 50  +50  = 150 days after 1.1.
1998  1998  1998  = 1998

As we see these three heads of fifty, every one giving an independent reference to 1998, lead together again to Pentecost 1998: 150 (50+50+50) days after 1.1.1998 is Pentecost Sunday!!!

The message of the three 50's is:

******The season (Fish=50) = 1998:
The fulness of gentiles will be reached when the age of Pisces (fishes, the Christian era) is closed and the water bearer, Aquarius (days of Noah) enters. This is the time when Joshua the son of Nun=fish (Jesus) will lead Israel to rest=Noah and Elijah (the saints) will be raptured just when Israel is about to enter the promised land through the Jordan (tribulation) on dry ground while the nations will be judged by delusion and destruction.
*****The year (Jubilee=50) = 1998
In the year of the 50th anniversary of Israel when the say "Peace and Security" Jesus will come like a thief in the night.
*****The month and day (Pentecost=50) = 5-31-1998
All hints point to Pentecost 50+50+50 days after 1.1. 1998 = 5-31-1998 = 31th of May 1998 as the day when the firstfruits will be raptured to heaven in the Feast of Firstfruits.

The fifty men that remain before Elia and are not consumed by fire are those who refer to “Pentecost"=50, which designates the remaining 50 days after Pesach until the feast of Pentecost. The first two fifities which are consumed are the days passed until the significant 50=Pentecost days which point to the date of rapture.

THE SECOND CLEAR EVIDENCE: 153, 324, 216; 666 and 1998
There is an obvious conection between 153 and 666. At that time the net is drawn out of the sea and the fulness of gentiles have entered into rest, the 666 system will come up without hindrance, for him who withholdeth is put out of the midst (2.Tess.2.7). When Lot was lead out of Sodom the judgment took his way.

To understand the following calculations you have not to be a math expert. The only method used is adding and subtracting and transposition of digits of a number.

We have seen from 1.Kings 1: 153= 3*51 (153 reversed!): the sum of digits is:
153 =>666
The complement number to 153 is shown by the complementing the sum of 6. The three possibilities to reach 6 by the sum of two numbers (zero excluded) are: 1+5| 3 + 3|2+4 we get in this way the second number 324. The third number is given by the product of 6*6*6=216. In this way we reach through 666 the only three! base numbers with three different digits (zero excluded) leading to 1998 by adding the six possible numbers with changed digits by factoring: 153+135+513+531+315+351=1998. There are at all 6+6+6 numbers with three different digits which lead factored to 1998. In this way 666 is concerned three times in the whole process sums up that way in 1998:
666  1+5=6 | 3+3=6 | 2+4=6 =153 324
666  6*6*6 = 216
666  6 [153+135...+315] 6 [324+342...+423] 6 [216+261+...+621] =1998
There are only these three base numbers with three different digits (zero excluded) which result in 1998 when factored: 153 324 and 216. The sum of the first two numbers 153+324=477, the sum of the second and last of these numbers 324+216=540 both result also in 1998 when factored. They represent the two remaining categories of numbers with zero and those with two identical digits. As has been shown in my posting (5 Doves site: Dec. 1997) there are exactly at all 3*(6+6+6) numbers (included those with zero and two identical digits) giving the result 1998 when factored and 3*666=1998.

The sum of 153+324+216=693. 693=7*99. If we add the first and the last number: 153+216=369 we recieve a transposition of 693. The three base numbers have the digits 153324216 the sum of digits is 1+5+3+3+2+4+2+1+6=18=6+6+6 if we convert these digits in two digit numbers and add them 15+33+24+21+6=99 we reach again 99. If we complement the last digit with zero to get five two digit numbers 1533242160 we recieve 15+33+24+21+60=153 again 153! the base number!

The product of each of two digits of the first two numbers 153 | 324: 1*5=5 3*3=9 2*4=8 leads to 5-98 = May 1998. If we add 216 and 99 (the number included in the three base numbers put together): 216+99=315 we recieve the exact date of Pentecost 1998: 31-5 = 31th of May in German date format. If we add again 216: 216+99+216=531 we get the English date format 5-31 of 31th of May = Pentecost 1998. Thus the three numbers lead connected again clearly to the date Pentecost 1998 5-31!

The sum of digits of 5-31 1998 is 36 (5+3+1+1+9+9+8=36). The sum of sequence 1+2+3+4...+36=666. This shows again: at this time when the rapture has taken place the 666 system will come up immediatly! The date of rapture is the date of the beginning tribulation.

When we look around we see: all signs the Lord gave are fulfilled his coming is at hand! The two clear evidences shown above give again very strong confirmation for rapture Pentecost 1998! IŚm personally convinced that the coming of the Lord is imminent! I expect on the day of Pentecost 1998 the rapture of the saints: a sound from heaven and a rushing mighty wind (Acts.2.2) "And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2.Kings 2.11). "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." (Luk.21.36)

The parable of the figtree applied to Israel points to rapture in springtime: Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. (Math. 24,32,33). The summer time points to harvest and thus to judgment (Math.13.39). The rapture will take place before summer when the figtree putteth forth his leaves. In the Song of Songs we find a reference of the rapture in spring time, the call of the bridegroom to the bride:
"My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land; The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely." (Song of Songs 2.10-14).

My reply

First, I fully understand your thinking the Tribulation has to start with the Rapture, and that there is only one Rapture. I thought that for many years. However, one Rapture is seen in Rev. 4:1. The Tribulation saints get to Heaven in Rev. 7, see v. 14. Call it the Translation of the Tribulation saints if that sounds better to you. Between the two events is Rev. 6, which starts with the Beast riding forth as a prince of peace and ends with the day of God's wrath is come. The gap between the first Rapture and the Tribulation is shown in the parable of the barren fig tree in Luke 13:6-9. The second Translation comes between the breaking of the sixth and seventh seals.

> yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return
> from the wedding

For the wedding, the Marriage of the Lamb, to have taken place before this, the Bride of Christ must have been caught up previously. The references you quoted have to do with Rapture II. The fish caught on the right side of the boat may represent the first Rapture, of the wise Philadelphian virgins. The fish not caught on the left side of the boat may represent those left behind at the first Rapture, the foolish Laodicean virgins.

> the time when Jesus will come as a thief
> in the now in the Jubilee of Israel 1998.

It seems to me that when Jesus comes as a thief in the night is just before Armageddon. See Rev. 16:15,16. I think this is 2007, not 1998.

> We are told in 1. Tess. 5. 3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety;
> then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with
> child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness,
> that that day should overtake you as a thief."

The travail is on the 2300th day of the shortened Tribulation, the Feast of Trumpets that begins the millennial Day of the Lord. As soon as she travails, Israel brings forth her children. That can't be the beginning of the Tribulation, but the final day called the time of Jacob's trouble. On that day "there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people (Israelities) shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake." (Dan. 12:1,2). This is the Translation of the Tribulation saints, the Pre-Wrath Rapture. It takes place on the Day of God's Wrath, but before the seventh seal is broken and the seven trumpet judgments hit Earth.

> In the year of the 50th anniversary of Israel when the say "Peace and
> Security" Jesus will come like a thief in the night.

I think the first Rapture, of the Bride of Christ, will be in the 50th year since the rebirth of Israel. However, I think the term "like a thief in the night" applies to the second Rapture just before God's wrath is poured out.

> When Lot was lead out of Sodom the judgment took his way.

Exactly. Fire fell that same day. That prefigures the wrath of God falling the same day as Rapture II. The days of Noah typify the first Rapture. The days of Lot typify the second Rapture.

> I expect on the day of Pentecost 1998 the rapture of the saints...
> and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

I agree with the first part, but I think Enoch was a type of the first Rapture and that Elijah was a type of the second Rapture.

> The parable of the figtree applied to Israel points to rapture in springtime

Good point. It agrees totally with Song of Solomon 2:10-14.

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