Note: I wonder if the dust storm on Mars was caused by an asteroid impact?
It is a noble thing for Josh to express the desire to stay behind should the rapture occur soon. The church of this time is obviously going to need dedicated, Spirit-filled leaders to guide it through the most tumultuous period in history, encouraging a harvest even as the faithful are persecuted and oppressed by a hostile world. I myself have thought about the possibility of remaining behind. When I was fifteen two summers ago in youth camp I felt God's call to enter the ministry. I know that He told me to dedicate my life full-time to His work. Of course, it's hard for me to do that if we're supposed to be flying for the clouds any day now. Which leads me with two horrendous and different understandings of my call experience (these are assuming a soon rapture): either I was deceived and have been living a lie for two years, or God wants me to stay behind and work for the tribulation church. Understanding how awful those years are gonna be, I still feel a deep obligation and desire to serve God through teaching and helping others. In one respect, I would rather fulfill this burning passion and run the risk of suffering for Christ then jet to heaven and find out I've duped myself into thinking I am something I am not.
Also, I found severe fault with you a while back for criticizing someone who wasn't too eager about the possibility of a soon return of Christ, because he is young and he wants to experience life. So do I!! I'm still a teenager, and there is a lot left to live for. It's easy for you to look forward to the rapture if you've been around, but for a young person, there are definitely mixed feelings. If we're gonna scoot, then that means I don't get to experience some of the unique pleasures of this life. Like graduating from high school, falling in love, raising a family, and even spoiling grandchildren. None of this is going to happen in heaven, after all- these are wonderous experience that one finds only on this earth. The thought of not being able to live a full life without all this is in a way depressing.
yet, at the same time, when I read about mindless violence, and when I see signs painted with the words "God hates fags" and when I see tears fall from those hurting, even this youth who wished God would keep slower time can still cry "Come, Lord Jesus"
I guess I can dub myself the Human Paradox. best wishes from the bayou state
Maybe God has called you to work for him on Earth NOW, not necessarily on Earth during the Tribulation. Jn. 9:4 says, "I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work." There are people whose lives you can influence now. Don't put all your work for the Lord off into the future sometime. He needs workers now. Also, have you ever considered that God might need TEACHERS DURING THE MILLENNIUM? He might prepare those that were raptured first to teach during the millennial Day of the Lord. We certainly would not want to fail to work to our full potential. We don't know what all God has planned. We should walk through doors the Lord opens for us and not walk through doors he closes. We are short sighted and have to let him guide us when only he knows where we are headed.
Think of what Isa. 30-18-21 indicates. It says, "unto you, and therefore will he be exalted, that he may have mercy upon you: for the LORD is a God of judgment: blessed are all they that wait for him. For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem: thou shalt weep no more: he will be very gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry; when he shall hear it, he will answer thee. And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but THINE EYES SHALL SEE THY TEACHERS: And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left."
God never leaves himself without a witness, and he has provided himself with witnesses for the Tribulation without anyone deliberately staying behind at the time of the Rapture. He is sending the two prophets, Moses and Elijah back to phophesy during the first 3 1/2 years (1260 days, Rev. 11:3). He also has the 144,000 Israelites that will witness for him during the 2300-day shortened Tribulation. On top of that, God has those Gentile upcoming witnesses that see the Rapture taking place on tap.
Psalm 40:1-3 says, " I waited patiently for the LORD (as in Rev. 3:10); and he inclined (bent down) unto me, and heard my cry. He brought me UP also out of an horrible pit (as he did Jeremiah, i.e., out of the Earth), out of the miry clay (bodies of clay), and set my feet upon a rock (the planet that is the 3rd heaven, II Cor. 12:2), and established my goings (the Rapture). And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God (we sing the 'new song' in Heaven, Rev. 5:9): MANY SHALL SEE IT (the Rapture), and fear, and shall trust in the LORD." There will be many witnesses to teach on Earth during the Tribulation.
> > If we're gonna scoot, then that means I don't get to experience some of the unique pleasures of this life. Like graduating from high school, falling in love, raising a family, and even spoiling grandchildren. None of this is going to happen in heaven
Don't the children in Heaven need care? There are no guarantees that you will be able to do all those things on Earth either. Paul didn't. If you are killed in an auto accident, die of the plague, or are a martyr for your faith, that dream picture will change too. If you are here in the Tribulation, 1/4th of the world's people will be killed just during the first 3 1/2 years. Rev. 6:8 says, "behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death (i.e., the False Prophet), and Hell (i.e., Satan) followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."
Rather than trying to second guess the Lord and going our own way, we are better off in the long run by following the Lord's guidance. That way, we will end up doing what we were created for, whatever it is the Lord had in mind. We will live up to our potential, and we will be happy doing it. Agape
Is this petrified wood without growth rings really from trees grown between Adam and the Flood? Gen. 8.22 says, "While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and DAY AND NIGHT SHALL NOT CEASE." This was right after Noah came out of the Ark. To me, these things started with Gen. 1:5, when Moses wrote, "God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day," instead of at the Flood. I think they were continued from the commencement of this "kosmos," order of things in Adam's day.
We know that Cain "tillest the ground" (Gen. 4:12). Thus, seedtime and harvest were a part of man's life before the Flood. Also, Gen. 2:5 says, "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to TILL THE GROUND." Evidently, as soon as Adam was cast out of the Garden of Eden, he began to "till the ground." In Gen. 3:17, God told Adam, "cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life."
Since day and night started in Gen. 1:5, tilling the ground started in Adam's day, and fossils are not being formed today, it seems to me that this petrified wood found by Ron Wyatt could have been from trees grown before this present "kosmos" began, instead of from the wood in Noah's Ark. Therefore, this wood seems to give us some more insight into the conditions in the "kosmos" before Adam. The tilt of the axis of the Earth must have happened in the catastrophe between Gen. 1:1 and 2. Agape
II Peter 3:10-12 says, "the DAY OF THE LORD will COME as a thief in the night; in the which the HEAVENS SHALL PASS AWAY WITH A GREAT NOISE, and the ELEMENTS SHALL MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be DISSOLVED, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the DAY OF GOD, WHEREIN THE HEAVENS BEING ON FIRE SHALL BE DISSOLVED, and the ELEMENTS SHALL MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT?"
There is a common denominator here. The atmospheric heavens are to be "DISSOLVED" and the "ELEMENTS SHALL MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT" on the DAY OF THE LORD and on the DAY OF GOD. I think the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord is the Day of God. That day is the day the united nations' army under Gog attacks Israel, so it is a day of "the battle of that great DAY OF GOD ALMIGHTY" (Rev. 16:14).
Isa. 13:6 says, "Howl ye; for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand; it shall COME as a DESTRUCTION from the Almighty." Isa. 13:9 says, "the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it." Joel 1:15 says, "Alas for the day! for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand, and as a DESTRUCTION from the Almighty shall it COME." Joel 2:1 says, "Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF THE LORD cometh." Joel 2:31 says, "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come." Amos 5:18 says, "the DAY OF THE LORD is darkness, and not light."
In other words, the destruction is the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord, the Feast of Trumpets, when the 7 trumpet judgments are cast onto Earth. That day is the Day of God's Wrath too. Isa. 34:8 says, "For the indignation of the LORD is upon ALL NATIONS, and his fury upon ALL THEIR ARMIES: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter." Zech. 14:2 says, "I will gather ALL NATIONS against Jerusalem to BATTLE."
Jer. 46:10 says, "For this is the DAY OF THE LORD GOD OF HOSTS, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates."
Dan. 8:9-17 applies to the end times. Antiochus Epiphanes was but a type to help us understand the prophecy. Dan. 8:9-17 says, "And out of one of them (the 4 sections that Alexander the Great's empire was divided into) came forth a little horn (the Satan possessed False Prophet), which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it (the Satan part) cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them (as in Rev. 12:4). Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host (Christ), and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down (Mid Trib). And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice (the 1260 days, the 1st half of the Tribulation, when the Jews sacrifice), and the transgression of desolation (Mid Trib, when the False Prophet sits in the temple "shewing himself that he is God" (II Thess. 2:4), to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? (the other 1040 days of the Tribulation) And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed (1260 + 1040 = 2300). And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man. And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for AT THE TIME OF THE END SHALL BE THE VISION."
This is explained further in Dan. 8:22-26: "Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his (Alexander the Great's) power. And in the LATTER TIME of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up (the False Prophet). And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power (by Satan's): and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes (Christ); but he shall be broken without hand. And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days."
The "vision of the evening and the morning refers back to v. 14. It literally says, "Unto two thousand and three hundred evenings and mornings." An evening and morning are one day (Gen. 1:5).
I think the 2300 days run from the beginning of the shortened Tribulation on the Feast of Weeks in 2001 (Sivan 6, 5761, May 28, 2001) to the Feast of Trumpets in 2007 (Tishri 1, 5768, Sept. 13, 2007). The actual number of days, counted by Jewish inclusive reckoning, equal 2300. Agape
In one of the most recent Pros and Cons there was a message from a believer who felt a sense of spiritual unease watching the opening ceremony of the Olympics, that it felt almost like an exercise in human vanity. I'm very grateful that you posted that email on your site because I felt exactly the same thing. I suddenly felt a surge of sadness that humanity could sink so much time, effort and finance into an event which glorified humanist ideals without acknowledging God's sovereignty in any way. It was just an example of how much further the world has moved away from God.
The time seems close now - it may even be that Sydney 2000 is the last Olympics we shall witness so I pray God blesses you and opens the hearts of people who come across your site. Regards
"ADAM AND FEAST OF TABERNACLES," by Jerry Cooney (7 Oct)
There is a particular verse in the Bible that puzzles many who study the scriptures.
The verse is Leviticus 25:9 which reads, Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement......
Why is it that the Lord proclaims the Jubilee year to begin on the tenth day of the seventh month, Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur? Wouldnıt it be more logical to us to have Jubilee year proclaimed on Tishri 1 the first day of the secular year Rosh Hashanah, Feast of Trumpets? Or maybe have Jubilee proclaimed on the first day of their sacred year Nisan 1?
The Lord must have His reasons. On the Lordıs calendar could the beginning of the year be Tishri 10, Feast of Atonement, Yom Kippur? Perhaps an answer to this is given in Ezekiel 40:1 At this point in time the calamities of Ezekiel 38 and 39 are completed. The kingdom Age, the Millennium of one thousand years begins.
Ezekiel 40 to the end of his prophecy primarily focuses on the Millennial temple and its worship. As Ezekiel begins to prophesy under the anointing of the Holy Spirit he writes,
In the five and twentieth year of our captivity, in the beginning of the year, in the tenth day of the month...
Heıs writing about the beginning of the year, which we assume is the month Tishri, and then seems to indicate the specific day of the month that is the beginning of the year is the tenth day, not the first. Strange.
This therefore seems to link back to the Leviticus 25:9 verse which indicated Jubilee year begins on the same day Ezekiel speaks of, the tenth day of Tishri, Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur.
Actually I canıt think of a verse in scripture where the Lord Himself speaks of Rosh Hashanah, which means beginning of the year, being on Tishri 1. Tishri 1 is simply reserved for Feast of Trumpets, though we know that today Israel conjoins Feast of Trumpets and Rosh Hashanah, the beginning of the year, as the start of their secular year.
Now why do Leviticus 25:9 and Ezekiel 40:1 speak thus? My opinion is that the first day of creation was not on Tishri 1, but on Tishri 10, what will become known as Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur.
If this is correct, then it would also have been on Sunday. Tishri 10 Sunday, Tishri 11 Monday etc. till the 6th day Friday Tishri 15 which we know as Tabernacles. Then God rested on Saturday, the seventh day, the Sabbath.
We know that Adam was created on the sixth day. I suspect it was on Tishri 15, Tabernacles. The first Adam was created on Tabernacles.
The last Adam, Jesus Christ, when was He born? I suspect He also was born just like the first Adam, on Tabernacles Tishri 15.
The KJV reads, ...and the word was made flesh, and dwelt among us... Actually to dwell among us would be to ... tabernacle ... among us. J. B. Rotherham in his The Emphasized New Testament translates this,... and pitched his tent among us.
Now all of the foregoing I have written to make a point which could affect us today. Assuming the first Adam was created and the last Adam, Jesus Christ was born on Tabernacles, would it be too far fetched to assume that perhaps we Christians would enter not this world but heaven itself on the Feast of Tabernacles, Feast of Ingathering.
Tabernacles or Ingathering of the harvest will be celebrated this year on Saturday October 14.
Remember, Martin Luther posted his 95 theses on the church door at Wittenberg, Germany, Sunday October 31, 1517 A.D. and thus began the Reformation. Away from manıs traditions and back to the Bible.
Add 70 weeks of 360 day prophetic years and one comes to Tabernacles, Feast of Ingathering October 14, 2000 A.D., the 15th day to Tishri on the Hebrew Calendar!!! Coincidence? Probably not. The day of our Rapture??? Weıll find out soon. Time is short.
Also it is my understanding that from the creation of Adam on Tishri 10, Atonement, to Christıs Second Coming on Tishri 10, Atonement will be 120 Jubilees. 50 years times 120 equals 6000 years. When God said in Genesis 6:3,... his days shall be 120 years... He may have meant 120 Jubilee years. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
I don't think he does. I think it is ANNOUNCED on Tishri 10 in the 49th year that the following Nisan 1 begins the Jubilee year. Why would the 49th year start Nisan 1, then the 50th year start Tishri 10? It would cause the 49th year to not be a full year. It would change the beginning of every year after that to Tishri 10. They don't follow that pattern today. When the Lord made Nisan the beginning of months to the Israelites, he didn't change it right away to Tishri 10.
The Hebrew month started with the new moon. The word month is in Hebrew, "chodesh," which means both month and the new moon. The new moon is the first of the month. This is so well established that in the Bible, when the word "chodesh" appears with no day number, we are to assume that it is the first day of the month. If it is otherwise, the day number is given.
At Sinai, Moses was given the instructions that Nisan/Abib was the beginning of months to them. The 49th and the 50th years would both start on Nisan 1. At Sinai, Moses was also given the instructions about the Jubilee year. Lev. 25:8-10 says, "thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee FORTY AND NINE YEARS. Then (in the 49th year, which started Nisan 1) shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land. And ye shall hallow the FIFTIETH YEAR (which starts the following Nisan 1), and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family."
The 1st year started on Nisan 1. The 2nd year started on Nisan 1. The Sabbatic Year started on Nisan 1. The 7th Sabbatic Year, the 49th year, started on Nisan 1. It is my understanding that the Jubilee Cycle is a 49-year cycle, with the 50th year also being the 1st year of the new cycle. This keeps the Jubilee Years aligned with the Sabbatic Years and assures that the Jubilee Year never falls on a Sabbatic Year. The 1st year of the Jubilee Cycle 1 started on Nisan 1. Therefore, I think the Jubilee Year starts on Nisan 1 in the 1st year of Jubilee Cycle 2.
I think the Jubilee Year is announced on Tishri 10 of the 7th Sabbatic Year in the cycle and begins the following Nisan 1 when the 50th year starts.
> > Or maybe have Jubilee proclaimed on the first day of their sacred year Nisan 1?
This makes a whole lot more sense.
> > Ezekiel 40...In the five and twentieth year of our captivity, in the beginning of the year, in the tenth day of the month...
> > Heıs writing about the beginning of the year, which we assume is the month Tishri, and then seems to indicate the specific day of the month that is the beginning of the year is the tenth day, not the first. Strange.
Eze. 40:1 means that in year 25 of their 70 years of CAPTIVITY, in the beginning of the year, Nisan, in the 10 of Nisan. Eze. 45:21 says, "In the first month (Nisan), in the fourteenth day of the month (Nisan 14, Lev. 23:5), ye shall have the PASSOVER, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten."
> > the first day of creation was not on Tishri 1, but on Tishri 10
I think the day this "kosmos" started to operate on its own was the Sabbath, Sat., Tishri 1, the day God rested. This places the first day of Gen. 1:5 on Sun. Elul 24. Tishri 1 was the first full day of Adam's life. It makes sense for time to begin to be counted that day.
> > The last Adam, Jesus Christ, when was He born? I suspect He also was born just like the first Adam, on Tabernacles Tishri 15.
I think he was born Sat., Tishri 1, in BC 5.
> > The KJV reads, ...and the word was made flesh, and dwelt among us ...
> > Actually to dwell among us would be to ... tabernacle... among us.
The Greek translated "dwelt" is "skenoo," to tent or encamp, to occupy, to reside, to dwell. It does not have to mean that Jesus was born on Tabernacles.
> > Add 70 weeks of 360 day prophetic years and one comes to Tabernacles, Feast of Ingathering October 14, 2000 A.D., the 15th day to Tishri on the Hebrew Calendar
Since the decree of "Cyrus" to rebuild "Jerusalem" and the "temple" (Isa. 44:28) went forth in BC 454 (as per Martin Anstey), and adding the 483 years of Dan. 9:25 places the Crucifixion in 30 AD (483 - 454 + 1 because there was no zero year = 30), I doubt that we are supposed to use so-called prophetic years.
> > from the creation of Adam on Tishri 10, Atonement, to Christıs Second Coming on Tishri 10, Atonement will be 120 Jubilees. 50 years times 120 equals 6000 years.
I think the Second Advent is on Nisan 1, the first day of the Jewish Regnal and Sacred Year (Eze. 29:17,21; Hos. 6:3).
> > his days shall be 120 years.... He may have meant 120 Jubilee years
Since the Jubilee Cycle is a 49-year cycle, I doubt that it indicates 6000 years. Agape
The early Christians wished to celebrate Christmas but of course were persecuted by the Romans. They needed a Roman holiday in early winter to hide their celebrations of Christmas from the prying eyes of the Romans. The Roman Saturnalia filled the bill nicely as it was an early winter feast day, with merriment and banquets. So the early Christians simply adoped that day.
The December 25 day was proclaimed as Christmas Day by a Pope a while later, and there it has remained ever since.
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