Pro and Con 704

Posted 3-8-01

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Hi grams, Andrew had a seizure on monday from a high temperature. He's been on 5 antibiotics since thanksgiving to get rid of an ear infection. So far we've failed in getting rid of it. His infection caused him to have a 101 temperature on monday causing him to go into seizures. He had two, one right after the other. The paramedics came and got him and we both went to the hospital. He is ok now. I have to alternate Tylenol and motrin every 4 and 6 hours. They gave him bactrin as a shot and also prescribed some for later. He is laughing and playing now and seems to be getting better. I hope you can send a messages for everyone to pray for him. This is his 3rd seizure in 1 year. If he keeps having them i will have to put him on medication to stop them. If you have any idea's how I can stop his ear infections please let me know. What I can do to help little Andrew from getting sick so much.

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I'm so sorry to hear that my great grandson is having such troubles. We will pray for him. I'll post this. Others will pray for him too (Andrew Cook, Whittier, CA). We take Vitamin C, orange juice, and CS (colloidal silver), as preventatives and Echinacea or grapefruit seed extract if we get sick, but I have no idea whether a 2-year old could take CS, Echinacea or grapefruit seed extract, or if so, what dose would be appropriate. The thing that comes to mind is that no one should smoke around him. When very young, Brian had reoccurring bronchitis the doctor blamed on second-hand smoke. He thought Brian must be allergic to it. If I remember right, I read something, probably the Doctor's column in the newspaper, about young children having more frequent throat or ear infections when they were around smoke. It can't be good for them. I sure hope Andrew will outgrow this problem. Love

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Regarding your writing on Pentecost, crucifixion there are two very profound elements. There has never been any doubt in my mind, and this goes back a long way, to when Eric Cassagrande revealed the 40 years and 120 days of a generation, which through your work on chronology established the start of the Great Tribulation to be on Pentecost of 5761 (May 28th, 2001?). I state with conviction that you have always been right on this. There is no other way for the days and dates to fit if we "slide" the start around. There has never been an element of discussion regarding this between you and I, and your writing confirms once again, there is NO doubt that the Great Tribulation has to start on Pentecost of 5761.

You said something I had never considered before, near the end of your writings, you stated "The 4 Feasts, Passover, Unleavened Bread, FirstFruits and Pentecost are as ONE 52 day block of time. Now this is profound. I know what I was told on February 13th of 2001. FEASTS, PLURAL. Now what you are suggesting makes a perfect agreement with what I was told. The suggestion now is that based on my message of February 13th, that there is a window of ten days of persecution of the Body of The Believers, the Church, as in Revelation 2:10. This would suggest that the "little horn" of Daniel 7, who is the same as the beast out of the sea of Revelation 13, will appear on the scene, but will not have received any power yet. This would be an unmistakeable marker that the Rapture is ten days after. It is not unreasonable to expect persecution of the Body of Believers in some fashion.

Excellent work Marilyn, this shows once again how Fruitful it is for Believers to work together. Thank you for your studies. Agape and God Bless

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Thanks for your kind words.

> > the "little horn" of Daniel 7, who is the same as the beast out of the sea of Revelation 13, will appear on the scene, but will not have received any power yet. This would be an unmistakeable marker that the Rapture is ten days after.

I think this "little horn" is the False Prophet (Rev. 13:11-18), who will be revealed after the Pre-Trib Rapture. Dan. 7:8 mentions "ANOTHER little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man (the False Prophet), and a mouth speaking great things" (because he is Satan-possessed).

Dan. 7:23-27 says, "The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse (shena, altered, changed) from all kingdoms (Ecclesiastic Rome), and shall devour the whole earth (Tribulation Pope over United Nations and United Religion), and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces (10 regions). And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise (crowned as Tribulation begins, Rev. 13:1): and ANOTHER shall rise after them (Mid-Trib); and he shall be diverse (shena, altered, changed) from the first (the Beast, Rev. 13:2-10), and he (the False Prophet) shall subdue three kings (of the 10). And he (the False Prophet) shall speak great words against the most High (the Almighty, Rev. 1:8), and shall wear out the saints (Tribulation saints) of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they (the Tribulation saints) shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time (3.5 years, i.e., to the end of 2nd 1260 days of the Tribulation, Rev. 12:6,14). But the judgment (Judgment Seat of Christ) shall sit (on Tishri 1, the 1040th day; Dan. 8:14's 2300 - 1260 = 1040), and they shall take away his dominion (False Prophet will be deposed on Tishri 1), to consume and to destroy it (what was his kingdom of the world) unto the end (of the full 2520-day Tribulation). And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven (i.e., the world), shall be given (at the Judgment of the nations, Mt. 25:31f) to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him" (the Alpha and Omega, the Almighty, root and offspring of David, Christ, Rev. 1:8; 22:13,16).

Dan. 8:25 says, "he (the Satan-possessed False Prophet, the final Antichrist) shall also stand up against the Prince of princes (Christ); but he shall be broken without hand." Dan. 9:27 says, "he (the False Prophet) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (of years): and in the midst of the week (Mid-Trib) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (he will desecrate the temple), and for the overspreading of abominations (idols) he shall make it (the temple) desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined (the asteroid impact) shall be poured upon the desolate" (desolator).

I don't think the False Prophet will be revealed for sure until he confirms the covenant after the Rapture takes place. II Thess. 2:6-9 says, "now ye know what withholdeth (the Holy Spirit indwelt salt of the Earth) that he (the False Prophet) might be revealed in his time (as he confirms the covenant as the Tribulation begins). For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way (at the Pre-Trib Rapture). And then (after the Rapture) shall that Wicked (False Prophet) be REVEALED, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him (the False Prophet), whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders" (Rev. 13:11-18).

Rev. 13:11 says, "I beheld ANOTHER beast (the False Prophet) coming up out of the earth (land of Israel); and he had two horns (Satan's 2 comings to power in man, in Judas Iscariot and in the False Prophet) like a lamb (Christ has 2 comings), and he spake as a dragon" (the False Prophet is Satan-possessed). Agape

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From: CAPS. Re: PASSOVER
> > The "Tractate Sanhedrin" in the Babylonian Talmud says, "ON THE EVE OF PASSOVER YESHU WAS HANGED" (Sanhedrin 43a GBT VII.pg. 181; SBT pg. 281). > > Another Jewish writing was quoted in R.T. Herford's "Christianity in Talmud and Midrash," pp. 48, 62, 83, 348. It said, "ON THE EVE OF PESAH THEY HUNG JESHU [the Nazarene]...they found naught in his favour. And THEY HUNG HIM ON THE EVE OF PESAH." As I have previously said the terminology changed over the centuries. The Jews and their writers regarded the 15th of Nisan as the Passover. They still do! Check some calendars. So on the "eve of Passover" means to them the 14th of Nisan. The above Jewish writings confirm this. In the New Testament the term the "preparation of the Passover" also meant the 14th since the lambs were killed on the 14th of Nisan and eaten that night which was the start of the 15th of Nisan. The death angel passed over that night of the 15th and Moses was called by Pharoah to get out the same day, the 15th in HASTE. This is confrimed by Numbers 33:3: they left on the 15th after the death angel had passed over.

Mark 14:2 says, "NOT ON THE FEAST DAY, lest there be an uproar of the people." The Feast Day was the First Day of U.B. on which a holy convocation was to be held. No servile work was to be done on that day. There was no holy convocation on the 14th.

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> > The Jews and their writers regarded the 15th of Nisan as the Passover. They still do! Check some calendars. So on the "eve of Passover" means to them the 14th of Nisan.

It makes no difference what the Jews claim. The Pharisees and Sadducees disagreed among themselves. The Sadducees kept Passover on one day, the Pharisees kept it on a different day. Who are you going to believe? What is solid 100% truth is Scripture, our anchor in the sea of man's opinions.

Feast days are to be kept from 6 PM on the preceding day to 6 PM on the Feast day. For example, Lev. 23:32 says concerning the Day of Atonement, Nisan 10, "in the ninth day of the month at even (6 PM on Tishri 9), from even unto even (until 6 PM on Tishri 10), shall ye celebrate your sabbath." All feasts are sabbaths, rests, holy convocations. Tishri 1, 10 and 15 are all sabbaths, and they are not spaced 7 days apart.

Lev. 23:4-7 says, "These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. In the FOURTEENTH day of the first month AT EVEN (from 6 PM on the 13th to 6 PM on the 14th) is the LORD's PASSOVER. And on the FIFTEENTH day of the same month (from 6 PM on the 14th to 6 PM on 15th) is the feast of UNLEAVENED BREAD unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation (i.e., Nisan 15 is a sabbath of rest): ye shall do no servile work therein."

The only midnight Nisan 14 has is 6 hours past 6 PM on Nisan 13. After midnight, there are 6 more hours of night. After that, there are still 12 hours of day left of the 14th.

Eve of Passover/Preparation of Passover is Nisan 13, from 6 PM Nisan 12 to 6 PM Nisan 13. Passover/High Day is Nisan 14, from 6 PM Nisan 13 to 6 PM Nisan 14. Unleavened Bread is Nisan 15, from 6 PM Nisan 14 to 6 PM Nisan 15. Firstfruits is Nisan 16, from 6 PM Nisan 15 to 6 PM Nisan 16.

> > In the New Testament the term the "preparation of the Passover" also meant the 14th since the lambs were killed on the 14th of Nisan and eaten that night which was the start of the 15th

The lambs had to be eaten before midnight on the 14th, so they started killing them at the temple at 3 PM on Nisan 13. This is the only way they could handle the large number that had to be killed, roasted and eaten before midnight on the 14th, which was only 9 hours away.

If you skip to the next midnight, you have lost one whole day in your thinking and end up with the Passover in Egypt on Nisan 15 instead of where God set it in Lev. 23:5: "In the FOURTEENTH day of the first month AT EVEN (from 6 PM on the 13th to 6 PM on the 14th) is the LORD's PASSOVER."

> > There was no holy convocation on the 14th.

Lev. 23:4,5 says, "These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD's passover."

This skipping one whole day in their thinking happened when someone figured the day of the Crucifixion was Friday. Jesus was crucified about 9 AM and died as the priests started to kill the passover lambs at 3 PM on Thursday, Nisan 13.

John 19:14-16 says, "it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour (Roman time, 9 AM on Nisan 13): and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar. Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified."

John 19:31,41,42 says, "The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation (Nisan 13), that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away....in the place where he was crucified there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid. There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation day (Nisan 13); for the sepulchre was nigh at hand." The Passover on Nisan 14 was "an high day."

Mt. 23:40 says, "as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." There was Thursday (day), Friday (night then day), Saturday (night then day), and Sunday (night).

Luke 24:21 says, "we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done." These three days were Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

The Jew that wrote in the "Tractate Sanhedrin" in the Babylonian Talmud knew that Nisan 13 was the Eve of Passover. He rightly said, "ON THE EVE OF PASSOVER YESHU WAS HANGED." Agape

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From: CAPS. Re: THE RAPTURE--WHEN?--PART 10 THE 1ST & LAST TRUMPS
I'm not sure I sent you this one or not. This morning I looked again at the 1st chapter of Revelation . The statements of this chapter seem to confirm that the scene of the Resurrected Savior was on the Feast of Firstfruits and not the scene of Jesus at the Rapture. Here is why. In Verse 11, Jesus tells John to "write to the Churches." This only makes sense if the Churches, all 7 eras , were STILL IN THE FUTURE. This seems to confirm that it was at the time of the Resurrection of the Firstfruit, Jesus, and the 7 eras of the Church were still future.

Addionally, in verse 18, Jesus describes Himself in this scene as "He that lived (humanly on the the earth) , and was dead (after the crucifixion), and BEHOLD (EMPASIS IS ON NOW, CURRENT TIME AT THE TIME OF THIS EVENT), I AM ALIVE(AFTER BEING RESURRECTED AND GLORIFIED) for evermore, amen, and have the keys of hell and of death." These statements again tend to confirm this was a vision of the resurrected Christ at the Feast of Firstfruits at the First Trump.

THE RAPTURE--WHEN?--PART 10 THE 1ST & LAST TRUMPS
Based on what has been presented previously in parts 1 through 9 , here is the sequence of events associated with the Feasts in relation to the Rapture and the book of Revelation. The critical scripture of I Cor. 15:23-24 has been shown to be interpreted this way:

1) Christ the Firstfruits to be inclusive of Jesus, those raised and ascended with Him at the Feast of Firstfruits AND, LATER THE ENTIRE COMPANY OF FIRSTFRUITS OF THE BARLEY AND GRAIN HARVEST ENDING AT THE FEAST OF PENTECOST.These would be raptured as the Firstfruits unto God.

2) Those that are Christ's 'at His coming' at the Feast of Trumpets , at the return in Power. These would be raised as the tribulation saints BEFORE THE Trumpet plagues of Rev. 8 hit the earth. These trumpets constitute the wrath of God.

3) Then "comes the end'' of the 1000 year reign , at which time the Great White Throne judgment takes place which is the Final Resurrection of the Dead.

This seems to perfectly explain the verse in I Cor. 15:23-24 and the ORDER OF THE RESURRECTIONS OF THE DEAD. It appears to be a perfect explanation of that verse. It has taken me over 3 years of study on this to come to this conclusion. It may seem simple once it is understood , but it did not come easy.

Now what about the First and Last Trumpets. The Rapture takes place at the Last Trump. When was the First Trump ? Look at these verses in Rev. 1:10-18: I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore *, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Notice that John was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day (Sunday). This was the day of the first Feast of Firstfruits and these verses are describing the Resurrected Savior ! This resurrection of Jesus and His subsequent ascension and GLORIFICATION occurred at THE FIRST TRUMP.

Here is an intriguing section of scripture from the Old Testament that descibes this, Psalm 47:2-5: O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph. For the LORD most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth. He shall subdue the people under us, and the nations under our feet. He shall choose our inheritance for us, the excellency of Jacob whom he loved. Selah. God is gone up with a shout, the LORD with the sound of a trumpet.

Did you see the Rapture similarities , even the same key words are used, such as "shout", "gone up", and the "sound of a trumpet." This is undoubtedly describing the ascension and enthronement of the resurrected Savior after His resurrection and is the picture that John saw in the verses in Revelation chapter 1 that we just looked at!! Whew !

The first trump is then the resurrection and enthronement of Jesus as described in the verses in Psalm 47 and Revelation ch. 1. It took place on the first day of the counting of the omer--the Feast of Firstfruits WHICH WAS ABSOLUTELY ON A SUNDAY AS CONFIRMED IN LUKE CH. 24 WHERE ON THE 'FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK"--SUNDAY-- JESUS APPEARS TO 2 OF HE DISCIPLES and later in the same chapter ---on the same day of SUNDAY--TELLS THE DISCIPLES TO 'HANDLE HIS HANDS AND HIS FEET'--thus proving He had already been GLORIFIED IN HEAVEN AND HAD RETURNED THE SAME DAY. See Luke 24:35-40. I repeat this was on SUNDAY, THE "LORD'S DAY" MENTIONED IN REVELATION THE FIRST CHAPTER!!

So when is the last Trump? The First TRUMP WAS JESUS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE HARVEST OF THE GRAIN ON THE FEAST OF FIRSTFRUITS. The LAST TRUMP IS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FIRSTFRUITS ON PENTCOST AND IS MENTIONED IN REVELATION 4:1,2: After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

NOTICE THE SAME SIMILARITIES TO THE FIRST TRUMP. IN FACT THE VERSE EVEN SAYS IT " WAS LIKE THE FIRST TRUMP !! "

ALSO PLEASE NOTE WITH THE GREATEST OF CARE THAT THE SAME WORD PICTURES ARE USE , SUCH AS " AND IMMEDIATELY I WAS IN THE SPIRIT..." Did you catch that phrase ? It is the same phrase used in Rev. ch. 1:10 " I WAS IN THE SPIRIT ON THE LORD'S DAY !!!"

NO DOUBT THIS IS THE EXPLANATION OF THE FIRST AND LAST TRUMPS. BOTH WILL BE ON THE LORD'S DAY ON SUNDAY. IT IS NO COINCIDENCE THAT THE FEAST OF FIRSTFRUITS AND PENTECOST ARE BOTH ON SUNDAY-------THE "LORD'S DAY". GLORY !!!!

The book of the Revelation was written much later than I Thes. and I Cor. However the scripture is WRITTEN BY THE HOLY SPIRIT AND EVEN OLD TESTAMENT WRITERS WROTE THINGS THAT WERE NOT TOTALLY CLEAR TO THEM HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE THE EVENTS. Also, there is the concept of progressive revelation in the Bible. NO doubt , the book of Revelation gives the Final CLARIFICATION of the first and last TRUMPETS !!

Finally, note the amazing structure of the book of Revelation. The FIRST TRUMP OF JESUS IN CHAPTER ONE AND HIS GLORIFICATION (RAPTURE OF THE FIRST TRUMP) IS THEN FOLLOWED BY THE 7, REPEAT 7, CHURCH ERAS. THIS IS AN EXACT PARALELL TO THE 7 WEEKS OF THE HARVEST LEADING TO THE FEAST OF PENTECOST AND THE 2ND TRUMP. WHOA.

THE SEVEN WEEKS OF THE HARVEST ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE 7 CHURCH ERAS THAT DIVIDE THE FIRST AND 2ND TRUMPS IN REVELATION.

I don' t know if I've done you any good but I have "preached " myself happy.

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I learn things as we go along. Wait till you see what I just realized as I was answering this. It is the last paragraph. Thanks a million. You make me think things out in detail all over again.

> > 1st chapter of Revelation. The statements of this chapter seem to confirm that the scene of the Resurrected Savior was on the Feast of Firstfruits and not the scene of Jesus at the Rapture. Here is why. In Verse 11, Jesus tells John to "write to the Churches." This only makes sense if the Churches, all 7 eras , were STILL IN THE FUTURE.

I think the Rapture is presented as if it is only 10 days in the future, from Ascension Day to Pentecost. Revelation might be written as if it was Ascension Day in 2001 (May 18).

To me, "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" is when he is revealed to us at the Pre-Trib Rapture, as he was revealed to John, one of the 24 elders seen on their thrones right after the Rapture in 4:4. The book is like the script of a drama. As our modern movie directors do, Christ started his dramatic production with a Preview of coming attractions. He chose the Rapture for his Preview. In 1:10, John, who was at Patmos (meaning mortal) became in the Spirit on the Lord's day and heard behind him "a great voice, as of a trumpet." This is the first trump of God that sounds at the first Rapture (I Thess. 4:16; Rev. 4:1). John was caught up to Heaven and saw Christ in all his glory standing in the midst of the 7 churches/candlesticks. The seven star achievers were still in his hand. He had just snatched them up.

After the Preview, Christ told John to "Write the things which thou hast seen (before the Rapture), and the things which are (at the Rapture), and the things which shall be hereafter" ("hereafter" the Rapture, 4:1).

The setting of the drama is when the Rapture is at hand. It is "at hand" in the first chapter and "at hand in the last chapter (1:3; 22:10). Jesus signs off with "Surely I come quickly." He comes quickly at the Rapture. In 2:5, Jesus said, "repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of HIS PLACE" (Heaven, where the candlestick was seen in the Preview, Jn. 14:2,3). Rev. 3:11 says, "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown." This might be instructions for the last 10 days before the Rapture.

It looks as if Jesus stood on the pinnacle of Ascension Day to look backward and forward through time to show historical events of the 7 church groups as well as future events of the Tribulation. He told the persecuted church, "the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation TEN DAYS: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." It would be 10 days from Ascension Day to Pentecost, when I think the Rapture will take place.

Ten days before the Rapture, the Tribulation is still future. The book with the 7 seals is not given to Jesus until after the Rapture (Rev. 4:1; 5:1-5). Rev. 2:22 says, "I will (in the future) cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into GREAT TRIBULATION, except they repent of their deeds." They won't get caught up with Moses and Elijah Mid-Trib, either. They will go through the last half of the Tribulation, the Great Tribulation, but for their sakes, those days will be shortened (Mt. 24:21,22).

In Rev. 4:1, the Rapture takes place. It says, "I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the FIRST voice which I heard (Christ's, as in 1:10) was as it were of a TRUMPET talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter" (after the Rapture). This is the FIRST TRUMP OF GOD, as in I Thess. 4:16,17.

> > I Cor. 15:23-24

I agree with you. There was no punctuation in the original. This seems easier to understand if we read it as if there was a comma after Christ. The Body of Christ is Jesus, the head, resurrected on the Feast of Firstfruits, then the firstfruits at the Pre-Trib Rapture on Pentecost, and last the Tribulation saints raptured the day people look up and see the Sign of the Son of Man (Mt. 24:30; Rev. 6:14f) on the Feast of Trumpets that begins the millennial Day of the Lord. That is the Pre-Wrath Rapture on the day of Christ's "coming" (parousia, appearing, i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man, Mt. 24:30; Rev. 6:14f).

> > Now what about the First and Last Trumpets. The Rapture takes place at the Last Trump. When was the First Trump?

The first trump is at the first Rapture. The last trump is at the second Rapture. I Thess. 13-18's "trump of God" is the first trump. In the Preview, Christ's voice is "as of a trumpet." In Rev. 4:1, the FIRST voice is as of a TRUMPET. I Cor. 15:51,52 is at the "LAST TRUMP."

> > Notice that John was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day (Sunday). This was the day of the first Feast of Firstfruits and these verses are describing the Resurrected Savior ! This resurrection of Jesus and His subsequent ascension and GLORIFICATION occurred at THE FIRST TRUMP.

> > Psalm 47:(1-5) God is gone up with a shout, the LORD with the sound of a trumpet

This is at the last trump. It is on the Feast of Trumpets that begins the millennial Day of the Lord, Christ's 1000-year Kingdom. The Second Advent is 7 months later. Then Israel will be made head over the nations.

> > this was on SUNDAY, THE " LORD'S DAY MENTIONED IN REVELATION THE FIRST CHAPTER

In Rev. 1:10, "Lord's" is "kuriake," belonging to the Lord. Rev. 1:10 is talking about the day belonging to the Lord. The only other place it appears is I Cor. 11:20, "ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper." The Last Supper was not on Sunday, so this may or may not indicate Sunday in Rev. 1:10.

I thought it did indicate Sunday until I realized that it could be talking about the first Day of the Son of Man. Luke 17:22 says, "The days will come, when ye shall desire to see ONE of THE DAYS OF THE SON OF MAN, and ye shall not see it. And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them." It is now talking about those left behind to be caught up in the 2nd Rapture. In v. 26, Jesus said, "And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the DAYS OF THE SON OF MAN." As Noah was raised up above the Earth, so shall believers be raised up at the 2 Raptures. I think the 2nd Rapture will be on Thursday, so maybe "kuriake" in Rev. 1:10 does not have to be Sunday, just the first of the 2 Days of the Son of Man, i.e., the first Rapture. Anyway, Pentecost in 1998 was the last Pentecost that was on Sunday before I figured the Tribulation would start. If I am right about the 2300 days of Dan. 8:13,14, the Tribulation has to start on Sivan 6 in 2001 and end on Tishri 1 in 2007, and be counted using inclusive reckoning.

***Oh Wow! wouldn't that be something the Lord might plan, to have the 1st Rapture on the first day of the 2300 and the last Rapture on the last day of the 2300? Sivan 6, 5761 (May 28, 2001), Pentecost, is on Monday. Tishri 1, 5768 (Sept. 13, 2007), Trumpets, is on Thursday. We will have to wait to be sure, but that sure sounds like the Lord's logical way of working. Those could so easily be the days of both Raptures. I just thought of something else. We know that the 70th week of Dan. 9:27 is likely to be on the Feast of Weeks. No wonder that feast of harvest has another name. The name Pentecost ties that feast to the church. The Lord stopped the clock for Israel and began dealing mainly with the church at Pentecost in 30 AD. The Lord probably will restart the clock for Israel on the same day he catches up the Bride of Christ--on Pentecost. Agape

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I will be praying for your son (David Agee). Have you seen the MATRIX movie? There are many Christian messages in the movie. I have pointed out some of them to people in my circle, they couldn't believe what I was telling them. I wonder if a Christian wrote the script. Peace and love. Lord Jesus is the Toll-Free Bridge to God.

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Thanks for those prayers. I haven't seen the movie. Don't see many of those. About the only thing I watch on TV is ice skating. Glad there are good Christian things in this movie. Agape

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Hope your son is better! He and his family are in my prayers. Not to be redundant. But what about the different time zones. In Jerusalem the time of pentecost would start at 6PM Jerusalem time but at our time zone it would be earlier in the day (Sunday) right? What do you think? I don't know exactly what time it would be here in the states but I think it would be early Sunday morning! God Bless you. Maranatha

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Thanks for your prayers. He has back and neck pain.

Re: time zones. The Bible is probably only indicating Jerusalem time. Here in California, we are 10 hours behind Jerusalem. There is a World Time Zones URL on my link page. Agape Here it is: http://www.globalmetric.com/time/

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