Pro and Con 736

Posted 4-22-01

We go up, and Moses comes down

Since Mt. Sinai (probably from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn) was a type of Heaven, when the 1st trump of the Bible sounded, "MOSES WENT UP" to depict the Pre-Trib Rapture. Immediately, "the LORD said unto Moses, GO DOWN" to depict his return to Earth to prophesy 1260 days during the 1st half of the Tribulation. Thus, the Rapture seems to be just before Moses and Elijah arrive on Earth.

Moses went up and came down on the 3rd day. This might point to 5761 for the Rapture and beginning of the Tribulation--5758 (1997/1998) + 3 = 5761 (2000/2001).
Pope: Law Is Only Way Forward in Middle East
4-18-01 - VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope John Paul on Wednesday urged warring parties in the Middle East to respect international law and get back to the negotiating table. "Paying sincere attention to the legitimate hopes of all people and scrupulously observing international law are the only possible ways of bringing parties back to the negotiating table and marking out a path of brotherhood for these peoples," the Pope said at his weekly audience.
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Re: the rapture
Your are truly tenacious in your efforts to seek the truth through his word. I wish I had your zeal. I surely don't pretend to be any where near your level of knowledge of eschatology. But a thought accured to me the other day. You have always suggested that the rapture would occur on a Jewish feast day. But it isn't the jews that will be raptured but the church. the holiest of days on the church calendar, Easter. It is when we celebrate his resurrection. Is it not interesting that he arose on the third day ( why 3 days, a forshadowing of something to come?) and that we are prophetically at the beginning of the 3rd day (2000 years since his first appearance), that in Hosea 6:2 after 2 days he will revive us; on the 3rd day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence. We know at the rapture that the dead in christ will rise first (be resurrected). What do you think? In Christ

My reply

The best that I can figure, the 6000th year since Adam was cast out of Eden was 5758 (1997/1998). That does not include the 40 years of testing and probation that I think Adam spent in Eden. The 6000 years include three 2000-year ages, the Age of the Gentiles, the Age of the Jews and the Age of the Church. The 6000 years also do not include the ends of the ages. This is the great trial that is to come upon the whole world to try those that remain on Earth after the Pre-Trib Rapture (Rev. 3:10).

I Cor. 10:11 says, "Now all these things happened unto them (Israel) for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ENDS OF THE world (lit., AGES) are come."

If the 4 years of the parable of the barren fig tree in Luke 13:6-9 started with 5758, the 3rd year would be 5761 (2000/2001). This was the only year in the parable that the Lord spoke. (He speaks at the Rapture too.) "Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these THREE YEARS (5759, 5760, 5761) I come seeking fruit on this fig tree (Israel, Joel 1:6,7), and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down."

From Tishri 1, 5761 (Sept. 30, 2000), Israel has been attacked. This seems to be digging and dunging. Israel is running out of time. Once the Pre-Trib Rapture catches away those that bear fruit, the Tribulation should begin. Israel is not the only one running out of time. We are too.

There are several scriptures that mention the third day. At Sinai, they were to "wash their clothes (i.e., confess sins so as to be wearing spiritual white robes), And be ready against the THIRD DAY" (Ex. 19:10,11). V. 13 says, "when the TRUMPET soundeth long (i.e., the "trump of God" sounds, I Thess. 4:16), they shall COME UP TO THE MOUNT" (Sinai, probably from the sanskrit Sani, Saturn).

There is a first trump and a "last trump" (I Cor. 15:51,52). The FIRST TRUMP of the Bible sounded at Sinai. Ex. 19:19-21 says, "when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, MOSES spake, and God answered him by a VOICE (shout; Rev. 1:10; 4:1). And THE LORD CAME DOWN upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount (that represented Heaven): and THE LORD CALLED MOSES UP...and Moses went up (symbolizing the Pre-Trib Rapture). And the LORD said unto MOSES, GO DOWN" (symbolizing Moses coming back to Earth to prophesy during the 1st 3.5 years of the Tribulation. V. 25 says, "So MOSES WENT DOWN UNTO THE PEOPLE, AND SPAKE UNTO THEM." This Moses will do at the time of the Pre-Trib Rapture. He and Elijah are the 2 witnesses of Rev. 11.

I Thess. 4:14 says, "if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him." Moses will come to Earth with Christ, and begin prophesying. After his 3.5-year ministry, he (like Jesus) will be killed and resurrected after 3.5 days. He will ascend to Heaven. This will demonstrate to nonbelievers that God is able to resurrect the dead and catch them up to Heaven. If this could happen to 2 prophets (Moses and Elijah), it could happen to Jesus, and it could happen to us. Mankind is given another sign. The fig tree finally starts to put forth fruit. By the 2300th day (Dan. 8:13,14), there are 144,000 Israelites to be caught up to Heaven in the Pre-Wrath Rapture. They are not the only ones, either. There is a great multitude that no man can number out of all nations that will be caught up with the 144,000 (Rev. 7:9,14).

We see the 144,000 in Heaven in Rev. 14:1-5. They are "redeemed from the earth." They are "virgins," "firstfruits," "without fault before the throne of God." Therefore, they seem to be added to the Bride group, "and NO MAN (other than the 144,000) could learn that SONG," similar to the "new SONG" that the Bride group sings after the Pre-Trib Rapture (Rev. 5:9). These songs only belong to the Bride of Christ. This ties in with the information given to us in the SONG OF SOLOMON (son of David). Song 2:10-13 shows that the Pre-Trib Rapture will be in the spring at the time of the firstripe grapes.

The spies went in to search out the promised land at the time of the firstripe grapes, just as I think we will do at the Pre-Trib Rapture. Nu. 13:20 says, "Now the time was the time of the firstripe grapes." Agape

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From: Windsor AUS
This criticism of the rapture theory was posted on J Nquists Debate forum, could you make a response so I can post as I know you will do a better job than me. There seem to be a lot of attacks I have read recently on the Pre Trib rapture theory along these lines. I, like you, want as many people to be ready and watching as you, these criticisms need to be rebutted in the strongest terms possible. Thanks

"The main consequence OF the Rapture Theory is that it gets otherwise decent people to shirk their responsibility to meet the challenges in front of them. Everyone gets the idea that the world is going to hell but instead of doing something about it, they just say "Oh well, that's the way it is supposed to be" or "That's how Jesus said it would be" and thus the whole thing becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Everyone would do well not to study the Rapture theory itself but study its origins its earliest promoters, that would be more edifying and of greater help to the situation than anything

My reply

...In essence, the man posting seems to think it would be "more edifying" to study something other than the Bible than the only 100% truth we have to hang on to. However, if that is what he wants, I can oblige. The Rapture was understood and taught in earlier years, in spite of what some teach today.

In his approx. 1500 word sermon, "On the Last Times, the Antichrist, and the End of the World," Pseudo-Ephraem (c. 374-627 AD) said, "All the saints and elect of God are gathered together before the tribulation, which is to come, and are taken to the Lord, in order that they may not see at any time the confusion which overwhelms the world because of our sins." (Alexander, Paul J. "The Byzantine Apocalyptic Tradition [Berkeley: Univ. of CA Press, 1985] p. 210).

I have a copy of the whole sermon. This man had good understanding of Bible Prophecy. Here is another quote. "And there will be a great tribulation, as there has not been since people began to be on earth...and no one is able to sell or buy of the grain of the harvest, unless he is the one who has the serpentine sign sign on the forehead or the hand. And when the three and a half years have been completed, the time of the Antichrist, through which he will have seduced the world, after the resurrection of the two prophets, in the hour which the world does not know and on the day which the enemy or the son of perdition does not know, will come the sign of the Son of Man, and coming forward the Lord shall appear with great power and much majesty, with the sign of salvation going before him, and also even with all the powers of the heavens with the whole chorus of the saints". Agape

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Re: "10 days of persecution" article I read by J.R.Church...intitled "Revealing Revelation"...contained a section about the church at Smyrna:

The Rev. John Foxe first published his classic work under the title, "History of the Acts and Monuments of the Church." It was published in Latin in 1554 and English in 1563. Today his work is remembered as "Foxe's Book of Martyrs". This classic history includes a chapter on "The Ten Primitive Persecutions" that befell the Church during the first three centuries:
1. Under Nero, A.D. 67
2. Under Domitian, A.D. 81
3. Under Trajan, A.D. 108
4. Under Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, A.D.162
5. Under Severus, A.D. 192
6. Under Maximus, A.D. 235
7. Under Decius, A.D. 249
8. Under Valerian, A.D. 257
9. Under Aurelian, A.D. 274
10.Under Diocletian, A.D. 303

In the letter to Smyrna, Jesus repeats the refrain of hearing a deeper message given by the Holy Spirit. His message is for the overcomer--the one who remains faithful unto death. Perhaps the reference to "TEN DAYS" offered a prophetic announcement by the Holy Spirit, that the Age of Smyrna would experience ten persecutions by Roman emporers----until Constantine.

John's suffering was typical of the persecution faced by the Christians in Smyrna. He was exiled to Patmos where he wrote the Apocalypse.

Could it be mainly that the Persecution that characterized the message to the church at Smyrna became a broad prophetic view of the early church until Constantine's edict in 312, which covered "10" periods of persecution which could explain the "10 DAYS". Maybe there is no modern parallel to this; but it was indeed prophetic to the early readers since it lasted at least around 260 years or so. Maybe we are looking for something that will not happen, but I think I agree with you. If it does it will probably be from May 18th till May 28th. Agape

My reply

At one time, I would have said that Smyrna represents the history of the church during the 10 persecutions, up to Constantine's Edict of Toleration in 313 AD. That was before I realized that the Revelation of Jesus Christ is when he is revealed to us at the Rapture. The view of the state of the churches is when the Rapture is at hand. It is "at hand" in both the first and last chapters (1:3; 22:10). Jesus signs off with, "Surely I come quickly." He comes quickly at the Rapture (2:5; 3:11). In Revelation, Jesus stands as if on that pinnacle 10 days before the Rapture to look both backward and forward through time.

Like directors of modern movies, Jesus gave us a Preview of coming attractions in the first chapter. We see Christ in glory with the churches around him and the seven star performers still in his hand, having just been snatched up in the Rapture.

In his message to Ephesus, Jesus warned, "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee QUICKLY, and will REMOVE THY CANDLESTICK OUT OF HIS PLACE, EXCEPT THOU REPENT." In the Preview, their candlestick was in HIS PLACE, Heaven. Now the Rapture is "at hand." They must repent to keep their candlestick in Heaven.

In each message, Jesus reached back, grabbed some of the group's history and then stretched it up to when the Rapture is "at hand."

It sounds like the message to Smyrna, the church under persecution, is given 10 days before the Rapture. How else could they only have tribulation 10 days?

Those 10 previous persecutions were horrible. The worst one was the last. Thousands lost their lives. Bodies were piled in the streets. However, could Rev. 2:9 apply then? It says, "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." This seems more like modern teachers of British Israelism. The church of Philadelphia is told, "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee" (Rev. 3:9). This is the church with the "open door" of the Rapture set before it. It applies today. I think Rev. 2:9 does too. Agape

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Please look over this and see if u can find out if this sign of the Son of Man has or when it will be due. I know u are soooo clued up, maybe u could let us know when u find out. ready, watching, and waiting. regards --- The Heavenly Sign the World Awaits? Ancient Writings of Torah Sages Predicted Change in Constellation Kimah

If the sages of Torah are correct and Y'shua the Nazarene's predictions come to pass, the world will shortly see a dramatic sign in the Heavens above. Two stars in the Constellation known as Kimah (a.k.a. Pleiades, the Seven Sisters and the head of the bull, Taurus) are to be moved from their place and form a Cocav David in the early pre-dawn sky.

Exactly when this world-changing phenomenon would occur -- (maybe it has occurred already and the light of these stars in a different position has not yet reached us) -- is not certain, although we do have some clues if we go by the historic events that caused these two stars to earlier be removed from their place.

These references are found in more than a dozen places in the Jerusalem Talmud, 10 places in the Babylonian Talmud, 16 places in Rashi’s commentary to the Babylonian Talmud and 16 places in the Tosefta to the Babylonian Talmud. We also find a cryptic reference to the Constellation Kimah as the "sign of the coming of the Son of Man," in the New Testament Gospel of Matthew....

My reply

I don't think it is the Sign of the Son of Man. On Coronation Day, the 1st day of the Millennium, men will look up and see Christ in a spot where the smoky atmosphere is rolled back like a scroll. Rev. 6:14-17 says, "the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from THE FACE OF HIM THAT SITTETH ON THE THRONE, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Eze. 38:18-23 says, "it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY shall come up in my face. For in my jealousy and in the fire of MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel (the asteroid of Rev. 8:8 impacts the Mediterranean Sea); So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paneh, FACE), and the mountains (asteroids of Rev. 8:8,10) shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground...And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands (Gog's united nations' army), and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain (shower, i.e., a tsunami), and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the EYES of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD." Agape

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Two things I want to share. First, regarding the Brother who wrote on P&C 734 about the Rainbow. To the readers, I am the one who had the Rainbow come into the van, and onto me. This was the first sign I ever received, and I did not understand at that time how important it would be to record the exact date. The best I could do was to narrow it down to one of three Saturdays from Passover to Pentecost. After reading P&C 734, it certainly would indicate that my event was likely on the onset of Passover in 5758, since the event on P&C 734 was on the onset of Passover in 5761. It is the 3 years that is significant. Reminds me of Luke 13:6-9. If this is correct, we have entered the fourth year of the parable as of the onset of Passover this year. The fig tree is uprooted (Israel) in the fourth year. This uprooting would be the start of the Tribulation.

Second, on February 13th of this year, I had a vision of suffering of the Body of Believers for ten days from Nisan 13 (starts on sunset the day before), until the end of Nisan 22. Exactly according to this, myself, my wife, and ALL of my 3 children were extremely ill in this time span. It was so bad for me, that I was quite filled with fear and worry about my respiratory distress, and actually wondered if I was in danger of death. I prayed continously during the whole ten days, and the filling of the HOLY SPIRIT was the only thing that calmed me down. My second oldest daughter had uncontrollable vomiting on the first day, and it had nothing to do with what she ate. We all ate the same thing. She had no temperature or illness, and recovered as quickly as she fell ill. My son, who is 3 1/2 was as sick as he ever has been, and he was in a state of curious inactivity. He is normally very active, as all little boys are. Instead, he was in a "daze" and a "stupor". He could not even recognize his mom and dad at times. ALL OF OUR ILLNESSES HAVE COMPLETELY DISSAPEARED AS OF NISAN 22. My vision of February 13th told me that the suffering would be for ten days DURING the FEASTS(plural). The triple feasts were exactly coincident with our infirmities. Based on this, I have accepted that the true Biblical Calendar, based on the Abib (ripening) Barley and the crescent new moon are correct. Refer to Nisan 22 is reckoned as April 17th. As I write today, which is that day, I am completely free of respiratory illness. Only yesterday morning, I was as sick as you could imagine. What I see this as meaning, is that the Biblical Calendar is indeed the Sacred timetable. This was the point of my vision of February 13th, to synchronize our calendar with the Feasts of Israel, and Israel is God's timepiece. This means that Pentecost this year is on June 3rd, a Sunday. The Omer count can now be reckoned exactly. The reason I am bringing this forth, is because Marilyn had Pentecost reckoned in May. If our Redemption has not occurred on May 28, I want to have those of us who are watching not to "flip out in terror and abandonment", because Pentecost is on June 3rd.

Currently, I have 3 more prophecies that I believe are the confirmation of our Redemption being imminent. I have registered them with two other impeccable Christian witnesses, and I am waiting for at least one of them to come to pass. I feel strongly this is the best way to handle them. I want to state for the record, that EVERY single prophecy I have had for the last three years has either come to pass exactly when I stated, or has not yet occurred. For example, I was told Luke 9:34 exactly 8 days before Rosh Hashannah of 5761, which was the exact start of the seven bad years for Israel.

As I have done in the past, I always urge watching for Redemption when I have a vision of a date. So far each and every vision has had a significant event that I could never have predicted. EVERYTHING I have EVER learned or seen has been out of Scripture. The WORD has told us ALL things. If I ever was to claim any addition to the WORD, I would be a false prophet, and we must reject completely anyone who does. For those who reject visions, I refer you to TWO Scriptures, Job 34:14-16 and Acts 2:17-18.

To all my Brothers and Sisters, I am way past the point of debating the exact day of our Redemption. Rather, let us be certain to all WATCH (Luke 21:36) from the time of the writing of this letter, until Pentecost on Sunday June 3rd. The LORD is at the door! Agape

My reply

> > The fig tree is uprooted (Israel) in the fourth year. This uprooting would be the start of the Tribulation.

I take it that the fig tree will be cut down after that, not necessarily as the Tribulation begins. We may be in the digging-and-dunging year now. Luke 13:6-9 says, "parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then AFTER THAT THOU SHALT CUT IT DOWN."

> > Pentecost is on June 3rd

I wouldn't want to shut out the possibility, but I can't see how it could be if this Pentecost/Feast of Weeks is the first day of the 2300-day shortened Tribulation. The 2300 days of Dan. 8:13,14 only fit from Sivan 6, 5761 (May 28, 2001) to Tishri 1, 5768 (Sept. 13, 2007), counted by Jewish inclusive reckoning.

Tishri 1, 5768 is 40 years plus another 120 days from June 7, 1967, when Israel regained the temple area. This echoes the 40 years plus another 120 days from when the Pharisees refused Christ as King on Palm Sunday in 30 AD to Av 10, when the temple proper was burned, in 70 AD. Agape

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Re: The Rapture
I hope all continues well with your family.
I am sending you an interesting post from the 5 Doves site.
To me if this line of thinking is correct it is a confirmation of the Feast of first fruits as the day of our escape from this corrupt and wicked world. We depart the day the first seal is broken. Your comments are welcome. In Christ

My reply

We're ok. Thanks for sending Hoyle's ,"THE WHITE HORSE RIDER"

> > Concerning the Bow: Most people thinks this Bow is a war symbol. I beg to differ, it is not. This Bow in His hand is a symbol of "the Glory of the Lord God." > > Lets read Ezekiel 2:28: "As the Appearance of the BOW that is in the Cloud in the Day of Rain, so was the Appearance of the Brightness round about. This was the Appearance of the likeness of the GLORY OF THE LORD.

The "bow" is "toxon," a simple fabric. Therefore, this rider is a religious leader, a man of the cloth. In the gospel in the stars, King Cepheus is holding aloft a fistful of fabric ribbons to show the same type of thing. He represents Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords, the great High Priest, the highest man of the cloth.

Joe Hoyle thinks that the rider on the white horse in Rev. 6:2 is Christ. I think it is the first beast of Rev. 13. A crown is given to the rider as the Tribulation begins. Christ has many crowns, but why would the beginning of the Tribulation be the occasion of his receiving one. I think the 1st day of the millennial Day of the Lord is Christ's Coronation Day. On that 2300th day of the Tribulation (Dan. 8:13,14), there will be "given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion."

> > So the White Horse Rider is none other than our Lord and, King Christ Jesus, and He is seen going forth Conquering, and we are now directly connected to Him now as Conquerors.

In Rev. 5:5, Christ, "the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David," is in Heaven. The Pre-Trib Rapture has just happened, and Christ is given the 7-sealed book, the Title Deed of the EARTH." He is still in HEAVEN when he opens the 1st seal, 2nd seal, 3rd seal, 4th seal, 5th seal, 6th seal, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in HEAVEN about the space of half an hour." He is in Heaven from the opening of the first to the last seal.

When Christ opens the 1st seal in HEAVEN, John is told to "Come and see." He beholds what is happening on Earth. He sees the white horse, symbol of a prince of peace, and "HE THAT SAT ON HIM had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering" (Rev. 6:2). Christ is in Heaven. The Beast is on Earth, where he goes forth conquering.

When Christ opens the 2nd seal in HEAVEN, the same rider that rides the white horse mounts a red horse on Earth, "and power was given to HIM THAT SAT THEREON to take peace from the EARTH, and that they should kill one another" (6:4).

When Christ opens the 3rd seal in HEAVEN, the same rider mounts a black horse on Earth. The famine that follows is on Earth, not in Heaven.

When Christ opens the 4th seal in HEAVEN, "another beast," the False Prophet called "Death," comes on the scene on Earth. He rides a horse too, a pale horse, and "Hell (Satan) followed with him." This man becomes Satan possessed when Satan is cast down to Earth Mid-Trib (Rev. 12:9). Power was given THEM over the fourth part of the EARTH" (6:8).

When Christ opens the 5th seal in HEAVEN, he talks to the martyrs in HEAVEN, gives them white robes, and tells them to rest yet a little season (Rev. 6:9-11).

When Christ opens the 6th seal in HEAVEN, there is an EARTHQUAKE (6:12). Fiery rocks begin to fall. The Sun and Moon are darkened, but suddenly the smoky atmospheric heavens are rolled back like a scroll and men see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky. They say, "to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come" (Rev. 6:13-17).

When Christ opens the 7th seal in HEAVEN, there is "silence in HEAVEN about the space of half an hour" (Rev. 8:1). Seven angels are given 7 trumpets. Another angel puts fire in the globe shaped censer and casts "it into the EARTH" (Rev. 5). This represents the asteroid being cast into the Earth.

I see no way that Christ can ride the white, red and black horses. Do you?


I think it is on the 1st day of the Jewish Regnal Year and Sacred Year, Regnal because he is King of kings, Sacred because he is Lord of lords.

Hosea 6:3 says, "the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth." He came on Tishri 1 as the former rain and will return on Nisan 1 as the latter rain.

Eze. 29:17 sets the day as Nisan 1, "in the first month, in the first day of the month." Then v. 21 says, "In that day (Nisan 1) will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth (the Word, the Logos) in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD." Eze. 45:18 says, "In the first month, in the first day of the month (Nisan 1), thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and CLEANSE THE SANCTUARY."

The Day of God's Wrath is the 2300th day of the Tribulation. Dan. 8:14 says, "Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then SHALL (i.e., in the future) THE SANCTUARY BE CLEANSED." We can tell from Eze. 39:12,13 that there are 7 months between the Day of God's Wrath and the Second Advent. That means that the year must be a Jewish New Year, as 5768 is. Agape

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6,7 Sivan. I think that these are the most likely dates for the pre-trib Rapture. I think I even know how it will all come about-- through tremendous deception by Israel's enemies, but mainly by Saddam Hussein.

I really love what you wrote, and am very excited. I have been expecting the Rapture since '98, but this year looks better than ever, since you have presented more Scriptural reasons than I ever came up with. I am thrilled. Thank you so much for putting this information on the internet. Love, in Christ!

My reply

Thanks for those kind words. I don't know how it will all come about, but I know that the Lord is in complete control. It will happen according to his schedule. Agape

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