Pro and Con 756

Posted 5-27-01

My web site at pe.net is paid up until May 29, 2002, thanks to some very nice people. I need to keep it at or below 20 megs, so some of the older Pro and Cons are only available on the nbci mirror site.

Something is nagging at my mind. Israel arrived at Sinai on Sivan 1. Ex. 19:1 says, "In the third month...the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai." When no day number is given in Scripture, we are to understand that it's the 1st day of the month because the same word means both new moon and month. The new moon is the 1st of the month.

The Lord had the people wash their clothes for 2 days and be ready on the 3rd day (Ex. 19:10,11). On the 3rd day, "the voice of the trumpet" sounded. Only Moses went up--and down, "but let not the priests and the people break through to come up unto the LORD" (19:24).

The 3rd day seems to have been a wake up call for priests and people. God came on the 3RD DAY "TO PROVE YOU." Ex. 20:19-20 says, "all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off. And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die. And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, THAT YE SIN NOT."

Ex. 24:16-18 says, "the glory of the LORD abode upon mount Sinai (symbol of Heaven), and the cloud covered it six days: and THE SEVENTH DAY HE CALLED UNTO MOSES out of the midst of the cloud. And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel. And MOSES WENT INTO THE MIDST OF THE CLOUD, AND GAT HIM UP INTO THE MOUNT."

The LORD (YHVH, the pre-incarnate Christ) came in the 3rd day and abode on Mt. Sinai the 4th, 5th and 6th days. Then on the 7th day, he called Moses up.

Think about the parable of the barren fig tree in Lu. 13:6-9. There may be a correlation. Christ comes 3 years (1998, 1999, 2000?) looking for fruit on the fig tree (Israel). Then, Israel is to be digged about and dunged one more year. That seems to be happening now. In the 4th year (2001?), he may call his Bride up as he did Moses in the 4th day after Israel's wake-up call.

When Moses went up on the 7th day, it was Sivan 7, the 2nd day of Pentecost, which is May 29 in 2001. In 30 AD, the coming of the Spirit of Christ (Rom. 8:9) was "when the day of Pentecost was fully come." That could have been Sivan 7.

It's strange, but our daughter was born 50 years ago on May 29, 1951. Her son will be 30 on May 30. He missed her birthday by 5 hours. My brother's birthday is May 31. Ed's cousin that was raised with him as a brother had his birthday on June 1. hmmm. Food for thought.

Interesting article

>>http://aish.com/holidays/Shavuot/Shavuot_and_the_Magnificent_7s.asp
> > There are 7 holidays in the Jewish year: Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur, Sukkot, Chanukah, Purim, Passover, and Shavuot.

It is strange how the Jews at the this web site left out the Feast of Unleavened Bread and the Feast of Firstfruits. Chanukah and Purim were substituted to make 7. The Feast of Trumpets is also Rosh Hashana, the head of the year in the Jewish civil calendar.

Since Y'shua/Jesus was in the tomb on the Feast of Unleavened Bread and was resurrected on the Feast of Firstfruits, I suspect that is why these are left out. Since Passover was one of the 3 feasts that required them to go up to Jerusalem, they could not easily leave that one out. They rolled all 3 into one called Passover. To beat all, they keep it on Nisan 15, when Lev. 23 says that Passover is on the 14th.

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Thank you Marilyn. Most assuredly the dome of the rock mosque profanes both the Temple mount and His Name in that Yisrael has allowed the pollution to go unanswered. May He bless you, Sis YahChannah - http://qumran.com

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Who is this Chad Harvey character? What an idiot! He needs to go soak his head in some warm sand for about 3 days!

All you've done is talk about what is going on in the world and relate it to biblical verses as YOU see it. You've never declared yourself a prophet or anything like that! What is the matter with these people anyway? If they are so against your site, why do they keep coming back to criticize you?

See you in the air soon, if not this year, in the next couple!

My reply

I don't know who he is other than his name and e-mail address. I just wouldn't want to be in his shoes. I John 3:11 says, "For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another." I Peter 4:7,8 says, "THE END OF ALL THINGS IS AT HAND: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer. And ABOVE ALL THINGS have fervent charity (agape love) among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins." Verse 17 says, " THE TIME IS COME THAT JUDGMENT MUST BEGIN AT THE HOUSE OF GOD: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?"

James 18-22 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of FIRSTFRUITS of his creatures. Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."

For me, I aim to be part of that "FIRSTFRUITS" Bride group that is caught up at the first "trump of God" (I Thess. 4:13-18) The lastfruits get to Heaven at the "last trump" (I Cor. 15:51,52) because of their accepting Christ, but oh, what chastening they have to endure first. I wouldn't want to do one thing that would jeopardize my being a firstfruit.

What we need to do after we have confessed our sins is be patient. Rev. 3:10 mentions patience along with being kept from the trial that is to come upon the whole world. James 5:7-9 says, " BE PATIENT therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early (Tishri, fall) and latter rain (Nisan, spring). BE YE ALSO PATIENT; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh. Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, THE JUDGE STANDETH BEFORE THE DOOR."

I John 5:18 is often overlooked. It says, "We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and THAT WICKED ONE TOUCHETH HIM NOT." That wicked one is the False Prophet. This means that the Bride group won't be here when the False Prophet is revealed. II Thess. 2:6-9 says, "now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let (Old English for who hindereth will hinder), until he be TAKEN OUT OF (ginomai ek) the way (at the Pre-Trib Rapture). And THEN (tote, at the same time) SHALL THAT WICKED BY REVEALED, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders."

According to Strong's in the Online Bible program, ginomai can be translated "ARISE" and "BE MARRIED TO". It also means come to pass, finished, of miracles, to be performed. Ek, "out of," "away from" is the word translated "from" in Rev. 3:10, where we are to be kept "from" the trial that will come upon the whole world. I take it that the Bride group will arise and be married to Christ. They are the ones that will be kept OUT OF the Tribulation.

Ginomai is translated "be married to" in Rom. 7:3,4. It says, "if, while her husband liveth, she BE MARRIED TO another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she BE MARRIED TO another man. Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should BE MARRIED TO another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God."

Sivan 6,7 is called Pentecost, feast of harvest, and Feast of Weeks. For the Bride group, it could be Pentecost (return of the Spirit of Christ, Rom. 8:9), when the wheat is harvested. For the Tribulation saints, it could be the Feast of Weeks that begins the 70th week of Daniel/Tribulation. Maybe that is why there are two names for this feast. Hope to see you soon. Agape

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From: Chad Harvey, 5-24-01. Re: When is this going to stop!
You are just like all other dispensationalists. You take things out of context. You forget to mention that scholars overwhelmingly agree that the statement there is not by Ephraem but by a forger. You and many other pre-trib rapturists all hold to the same escape theology that 2000 years ago led the Jews to reject Jesus as the Messiah. The pre-trib rapture was not taught before 1830 because dispensationalism is what it is founded upon and I would like to see the evidence of dispensationalism before 1830. Ha, there is none.

Besides Jesus said it plain as day in Matthew 24:27-31. I know you say the elect in that passage is referring to Jews. If it is Jews in verse 31, it has to be Jews in verse 24, and I'm so sure Jesus would warn that even the Jews would be deceived if that were possible when the history of Israel was one of being deceived by Baals and Ashtoreths. Todays those same Baals and Ashtoreths are present in the decrepit ministry that you claim to lead yourself.

II Thessalonians 1:4-10 plainly states that the day of retribution and the day of rewards will be on the same day. I Thessalonians 4:13-17 is a passage you like to use but it is an embarassment to you. The word to meet is used throughout sacred and secular literature numerous times and it means to meet someone so that we may usher them into our domain rather than vice versa.

Revelaetion 3:10 the word tereo is used which simply means to keep the eye upon not to keep from, son that passage is nailed as well. You hvae a tough time getting past I Corinthians 15 where it says it will take place at the last trumpet.

As a dispensationalist you deny the Jewishness of Christianity. You claim to believe in a strict literal interpretation of the BIble, yet you hold to the Old Earth Creationist view. You have followed in the ways of many who have gone before you. Not all dispensationalist are of the Devil. They just hold an incorrect view on a nonessential topic. You however are sent from the devil. You have followed in the ways of those who have gone before you, like Jezebel. Your doom is imminent and your destruction inevitable. I pray to God your repent before then. But in reality you will continue to be caught up in pride and the judgment that comes upon you is found in Matthew 7:21-23. May God correct you of your evil leading!
Chad Harvey

My reply

> > evidence of dispensationalism before 1830. Ha, there is none.

It doesn't matter if there is or not. I wouldn't waste my time looking. What the Bible teaches is what we are to believe. Here are the Dispensations and the years I think Scripture assigns to them. God seems to work in sevens. See if you think history followed this pattern. Were the circumstances different in each Dispensation, or were they the same from Adam's day to ours?

1. Innocence, Adam to the Expulsion - 40 years
2. Conscience, Expulsion to the Flood - 1616 years
3. Human Government, Flood to Abraham - 427 years
4. Promise, Abraham to the Exodus - 430 years
5. Law, Exodus to the Crucifixion - 1559 years
6. Grace, Crucifixion the the end of our age - 1977 years
7. Kingdom, End of this age through the millennial Day of the Lord - 1000 years

The total is 7000 + (7 x 7) = 7049 years. I think Adam was tested 40 years in the Garden of Eden, and there are some extra years added for what I call Israel's grace years and the Tribulation, which is the ends of the ages.

In each of the Dispensations, man was tested to see if he would obey God, but he was tested under different circumstances.

First, would Adam obey when he was tried in innocence, before sin came into the world? He had the best chance to pass his test, but failed to obey. In the 2nd Dispensation, man was to obey his conscience. That didn't work. He wouldn't even do that. Next, man was to obey human government. That didn't work, either. So God called one man, Abraham, to obey him. Abraham obeyed, but his descendants did not all obey.

In the 5th Dispensation, God called Moses to obey. He did most of the time, but was not allowed to enter the promised land because of disobedience. God tried again in another way. He sent his Son to atone for our sins. Man is to accept the free gift of Salvation for nothing more than his acceptance of Christ as his Saviour. And what do you think, many men can't even accept a free gift. God will try one more time during the millennial Day of the Lord to see if man will obey him. With a perfect King and a restored environment, will man obey? As in all other Dispensations, some will and some won't. Some are too hard-headed to obey anyone, even God.

What more could God do to be obeyed? If you were in his place, what more could you do? Would you set up another Dispensation, or do you think God covered all the bases? Do you think man has had a fair chance? Do you realize that this way, we are not left with much excuse? How would one defend himself?

> > scholars overwhelmingly agree that the statement there is not by Ephraem but by a forger.

Whoever wrote it understood that the Rapture preceeded the Tribulation. When you compare that to the Bible, they agree.

> > pre-trib rapturists all hold to the same escape theology that 2000 years ago led the Jews to reject Jesus as the Messiah.

How so? They did not know there was such a thing as a Rapture.

> > Besides Jesus said it plain as day in Matthew 24:27-31. I know you say the elect in that passage is referring to Jews. If it is Jews in verse 31, it has to be Jews in verse 24

You don't know me very well. I don't say that verse 31 "is Jews." I include myself in this group, and I'm not Jewish. I don't think you have read Mt. 24:31 carefully enough. It says, "he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, FROM ONE END OF HEAVEN TO THE OTHER." This is the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord, 7 months before the Second Advent (Eze. 39:12,13). How and when did these elect get to Heaven? In the Preview of the Pre-Trib Rapture in Rev. 1, these have already been made kings and priests. When we see them in Heaven in Rev. 5:9,10, they have already been made kings and priests. This is before the Tribulation starts in Rev. 6.

There are also elect of the Tribulation. They will have to wash their robes in the blood of Christ to make them white. Then they too will be raptured. There are 2 Raptures, one before the Tribulation for the Bride of Christ and one on the 2300th day (Dan. 8:13,14). Rev. 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. The Great Tribulation is the last half of the Tribulation. It is Mid-Trib in Mt. 24:15-26.

> > II Thessalonians 1:4-10 plainly states that the day of retribution and the day of rewards will be on the same day

II Thess. 1:3-5 says, "We are bound to thank God always for YOU, BRETHREN (believers), as it is meet, because that YOUR faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity (agape love) of every one of YOU all toward each other aboundeth (the brethren love other brethren with agape love). So that we ourselves glory in YOU in the churches of God for your PATIENCE (as in Rev. 3:10) and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that YE endure: Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, THAT YE MAY BE COUNTED WORTHY of the kingdom of God, for which YE also suffer:" These are those of Luke 21:36 that are "ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE" the Tribulation. These are caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture.

Continuing, verse 6 says, "Seeing it is a righteous thing with God TO RECOMPENSE TRIBULATION TO THEM THAT TROUBLE YOU" (those accounted worthy to escape).

Verses 7-10 continues, "And to YOU (those worthy to escape) who are troubled rest with US (elders and Bride saints, in Heaven, after the Pre-Wrath Rapture), when the Lord Jesus SHALL BE (2300 days in the future, Dan. 8:13,14) revealed from heaven (Sign of the Son of Man on the last day of this age, Mt. 24:30; Rev. 6:14f) with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance (7 trumpet judgments on the 1st day of the Millennium, the 2300th day of the Tribulation, Dan. 8:13,14) on THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who SHALL BE (in the future) punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he SHALL COME (2nd Advent, 7 months after the 1st day of the Millennium, Eze. 39:12,13) to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day."

The order of these events is the Pre-Trib Rapture, the beginning of the Tribulation, the Sign of the Son of Man on the last day of this age, the Day of God's Wrath on the 1st day of the millennial Day of the Lord (on the 2300th day of the Tribulation), and the Second Advent 7 months after the catastrophe caused by the asteroid impacts of Rev. 8:8,10.

> > I Thessalonians 4:13-17 is a passage you like to use but it is an embarassment to you. The word to meet is used throughout sacred and secular literature numerous times and it means to meet someone so that we may usher them into our domain rather than vice versa.

Apantesis is used in the New Testament just 4 times. Strong's has meet for apantesis. Thayer's has a meeting, to meet one. You just might get fooled. Mt. 25:1 says, "Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to MEET (APANTESIS) THE BRIDEGROOM" (Christ). Verses 6-10 say, "at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to MEET (APANTESIS) HIM. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and THEY THAT WERE READY WENT IN WITH HIM TO THE MARRIAGE: AND THE DOOR WAS SHUT." The other place apantesis is used is Acts 28:15. It says, "from thence, when the brethren heard of us, they came to MEET (APANTESIS) us as far as Appii forum, and The three taverns: whom when Paul saw, he thanked God, and took courage."

> > Revelaetion 3:10 the word tereo is used which simply means to keep the eye upon not to keep from, son that passage is nailed as well.

Here are the exact words when I pull up Strong's in my Online Bible program:
"1537 ek...a primary preposition denoting origin (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, or cause; literal or figurative; ; prep
AV-of 366, from 181, out of 162, by 55, on 34, with 25, misc 98; 921
1) out of, FROM, by, AWAY FROM" (emphasis mine).

> > You hvae a tough time getting past I Corinthians 15 where it says it will take place at the last trumpet.

No. I know that when there is a last trumpet, there is a first trumpet. This passage is about the Pre-Wrath Rapture. II Thess. 4:13-18 is about the Pre-Trib Rapture. It looks like there are about 2300 days between them. I aim to be in the first group. How about you?

The second group is not said to be either kings or priests, but they are "before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple" (Rev. 7:15). If that is where you want to be, so be it. As for me, I don't want to lose my crown. In Rev. 3:11, Jesus addressed the ekklesia (called out ones). He said, "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, THAT NO MAN TAKE THY CROWN."

> > As a dispensationalist you deny the Jewishness of Christianity.

No way! The Scriptures were given to the Jews. The writers were Jews. Most of the prophets were Jews. (Enoch was a Gentile). Jesus Christ is a Jew. Without the Jews, we wouldn't have Christianity.

> > You claim to believe in a strict literal interpretation of the BIble, yet you hold to the Old Earth Creationist view.

I just let Scripture interpret Scripture, and when it says something, I believe it. Isa. 51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient (qedem, beginning, antiquity, front, of earliest time, that which is before, aforetime) days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (chatsab, split into pieces) Rahab (Satan's planet), and wounded the dragon (Satan)?" What do you think this verse means?

> > you will continue to be caught up in pride

I'm a very humble 72-year old woman. I wish you well. Someone has just sold you a bill of goods, and it isn't true. I see you didn't defend your statement about Antiochus Epiphanes. Why? Do you just pass on what you have heard without checking it out? Remember these words. Jesus said, "many are called, but few are chosen." I aim to be called, chosen and faithful. Agape

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A few months ago we shared a short letter explaining why we think this Pentecost may well be the beginning of the 2300 days of Daniel 8. We shared that the 70th week of Daniel has already fulfilled. The sacrifice of our Lord Jesus caused the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (there was no more need for it). But the 70th week is also a pattern that will see fulfillment in the "last days." There will be a period of 7 years, the last 3 1/2 years of which is called the Great Tribulation.

Soon after Ariel Sharon (see Isa. 29; extremely timely) went to the Temple Mount on the astronomical Day of Trumpets and the present hostilities began, we posted on our web site that September 28, 2000 would be a day to watch, a day of great significance. While meditating on the pattern of the 70th week and the possibility that it began on September 28th we wondered if the beginning of the previous 69 weeks would have any significance. Imagine our surprise when counting back the 483 years and it fell on the year 1517. The beginning of the 69 weeks in Daniel 9 was from "the commandment to go forth and rebuild Jerusalem." Jerusalem is likened unto the Bride of Christ in the Revelation, the Firstfruits of those who are truly "called out." 1517 was the year Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the door of the Court Church at Wittenberg on October 31st. Martin Luther is responsible for the beginning of the "Reformation" or rebuilding of the Church.

If the last 7 years have begun then we can expect to see a marked increase in hostilities, United Nations involvement or outright "trodding down of the host", the nation of Israel, on or around this coming Pentecost, May 28th and 29th. This of course would be if the ending date of the 2300 days was indeed the Day of Trumpets in the year 2007. There is the possibility that its culmination would be on the Feast of Tabernacles there by postponing it about two weeks.

Whatever may occur may the Lord's blessings be upon you.

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> > the 70th week of Daniel has already fulfilled. The sacrifice of our Lord Jesus caused the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (there was no more need for it).

But the sacrificing did not stop until near the time the temple proper was burned on Av 10 in 70 AD. They stopped awhile before that, because in the seige, they did not have the necessary animals.

In Dan. 9:26,27 says, "after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off (karath, killed), but not for himself:" That is all it tells us here about the Messiah.

Continuing, "and the people (Romans) of THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME (the False Prophet) SHALL DESTROY THE CITY AND THE SANCTUARY." The people of Y'shua/Jesus are Jews. The Jews did not destroy Jerusalem and the temple. The Romans did, under Titus.

Continuing, "and the end thereof (of the sanctuary) shall be with a flood." This can't be 70 AD. The sanctuary was destroyed by fire, not flood.

On the Day of God's Wrath, the asteroid of Rev. 8:8 will impact the Mediterranean Sea. This brings "an overflowing flood." Jer. 47:1,2 says, "The word of the LORD that came to Jeremiah the prophet against the Philistines, before that Pharaoh smote Gaza. Thus saith the LORD; Behold, waters rise up out of the north, and shall be an overflowing flood, and shall overflow the land, and all that is therein; the city, and them that dwell therein: then the men shall cry, and all the inhabitants of the land shall howl." Zeph. 2:3-5 says, "in the day of the LORD's anger. For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast."

Continuing, Dan. 9:26,27 says, "and UNTO THE END of the war (Armageddon) desolations are determined. And he (the False Prophet) shall confirm the covenant with many (probably including the UN) for one week (of years, the 7-year Tribulation): and in the midst of the week (Mid-Trib) he (the False Prophet) shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations (idols) he (the False Prophet) shall make it (the temple) desolate, even until the consummation (Day of God's Wrath), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate (lit., desolator, the Satan-possessed False Prophet)."

> > counting back the 483 years and it fell on the year 1517...1517 was the year Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the door of the Court Church at Wittenberg on October 31st.

Oct. 31, 1517, was 5278 on the Jewish Calendar. 5278 + 483 = 5761 (2000,2001). 5278 was also the year the Ottoman Turks took Jerusalem. That year was well marked. God saw to it that there were 6 blocks of years in the 400s mentioned in Scripture, 400, 430, 450, 480, 483, and 490. Now watch the correlations.

Acts 7:7 says, "after 400 yrs. in bondage, they shall come forth."
5278 + 400 = 5678 (1917/1918) - Jerusalem freed

In Ex. 12:41, there were 430 years from the call of Abraham to the Exodus, when Israel became independent.
5278 + 430 = 5708 (1947/1948) - Israel became an independent nation

In Acts 13:20,21, Saul became king after 450 yrs. Only 40 yrs were left before David was crowned king.
5278 + 450 = 5728 (1967/1968) - Israel had just grown leaves and taken the temple area in the Six-Day War. That was the Sign of the End of the Age.
1967 + 40 = 2007, which is 490 years since 5278.

In I Kings 6:1, Solomon, son of David, began to raise up the temple.
5278 + 480 = 5758 (1997/1998) - probably the 6000th year since Adam was cast out of the Garden and the first year of the parable of the barren fig tree in Luke 13:6-9.

In Dan. 9:26, the 70th week of Daniel begins after 69 weeks of years (483 years)
5278 + 483 = 5761 (2000/2001) - probably the Pre-Trib Rapture and beginning of 70th week of Daniel/Tribulation

In Dan. 9:24, 70 weeks of years (490) are determined upon Israel to finish the transgression and anoint the Most Holy (Christ).
5278 + 490 = 5768 (2007/2008)
1967 + 40 = 2007, the Pre-Wrath Rapture, and when I think Christ, Son of David, will be crowned King of kings and Lord of lords on Tishri 1, 5768. Seven months later (Eze. 39:12,13, on the first day of the Jewish Regnal and Sacred Year, Nisan 1 (Apr. 6, 2008), I expect the Second Advent.

In Rom. 9:9, when Sarah (type of a free Jerusalem, Gal. 4:22-26) is 90, "AT THIS TIME SHALL I COME AND SARAH SHALL HAVE A SON." Y'shua/Jesus is descended from Abraham and Sarah.
5678 (1917/1918) (when Jerusalem was freed) + 90 = 5768 (2007/2008)

Prov. 30:4 says, "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name (YHVH), and what is his SON'S NAME (Y'shua/Jesus), if thou canst tell?"

> > if the ending date of the 2300 days was indeed the Day of Trumpets in the year 2007. There is the possibility that its culmination would be on the Feast of Tabernacles there by postponing it about two weeks.

The Day of God's Wrath has to be on the Feast of Trumpets. Joel 1:14,15 says, "Sanctify ye a fast (the Days of Awe start on the Feast of Trumpets and end on the Day of Atonement, a fast day), call a solemn assembly, gather the elders and all the inhabitants of the land into the house of the LORD your God, and cry unto the LORD, Alas for the day! (Tishri 1) for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come." Chapter 2 starts off, "Blow ye the trumpet...for the day of the LORD cometh."

Mal. 2:3 says, "your solemn FEASTS; and one (the Feast of Trumpets) shall take you away with it." Hos. 9:5-8 says, "What will ye do in the solemn day, and in the day of the FEAST of the LORD? For, lo, they are gone because of destruction....The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know it: the prophet (False Prophet) is a fool, the spiritual man (Tribulation Pope) is mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred....the prophet is a snare of a fowler in all his ways, and hatred in the house of his God." Hosea 5:7 says, "They have dealt treacherously against the LORD: for they have begotten strange children: now shall a month (chodesh, new moon, i.e., Tishri 1) devour them with their portions." Tishri 15 (Tabernacles) is the full moon, not the new moon. Blessings and agape. Maranatha

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