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> Thursday, March 19, 1998, Jerusalem snowed in

> By Ha'aretz Correspondents and Agencies Heavy snowfall that began late Tuesday
> night and continued yesterday morning closed down schools in Jerusalem and the
> Knesset, leaving the city paralyzed as public transportation closed down.

> The prime minister's adviser David Bar-Illan found himself alone in the
> office. "There's not a soul here...Mr. Netanyahu canceled the morning cabinet
> during which they were supposed to discuss Lebanon," Bar-Illan said.

> The snow began to fall at around 4 A.M. in Jerusalem and ceased only in late
> morning. Major routes were cleared by noon, by bulldozers called out of
> storage in Tel Aviv.

> The snow piled up to 10 centimeters in Jerusalem and reached a height of 15
> centimeters in the Druze village of Beit Je'an. The Jerusalem-Tel Aviv highway
> and other major roads in the city were blocked by 5.30 A.M. Egged rejected a
> police request and decided not to operate bus lines.

> Over 46 centimeters of snow fell in the Golan Heights and Galilee. The snow
> was being cleared from highways by IDF and Public Works department bulldozers.
> The Hermon accumulated 50 centimeters of snow, and signs are that the ski site
> will be open over Passover.

> The damage caused by the snow to industry in Jerusalem is estimated at about
> NIS 15 million, said Yaron Kimche, manager of the Manufacturers Association's
> Jerusalem branch. He said that only about 50 percent of the work force went to
> work. Special transportation was provided for essential workers by the crisis
> center of the Jerusalem municipality.

> Snow was not the only cause of damage: A freak 30-second wind-storm blew away
> roofs and everything not nailed down in Kibbutz Hukkuk in the Jordan Valley.
> Nobody was hurt, but damage to property was "immense.
> copyright 1998 Ha'aretz.

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Here I am at midnight checking out the Bible Codes you mention...WOW...I am ready. I thought about the snow, also, but failed to connect with Proverbs....did you check out all of the snow in the scripture? I will do that tomorrow.

Thanks for sharing with me, I am excited...we don't have long to wait!!!!!

My reply

...Re: snow. Yes, I looked up the references in Strongs.

Prov. 25:13 says, "As the cold of SNOW IN THE TIME OF HARVEST, so is a faithful messenger to them that send him." Christ is a faithful messenger and the Rapture is the wheat harvest. This unseasonable snow makes me wonder.

Job 37:2-6 says, "Hear attentively the noise of his voice, and the sound that goeth out of his mouth (saying 'Come up hither"?). He directeth it under the whole heaven, and his lightning unto the ends of the earth (all at once around the earth). After it a voice roareth: he thundereth with the voice of his excellency; and he will not stay them when his voice is heard. God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend. For he saith to the SNOW, Be thou on the earth (in the time of harvest?); likewise to the small rain (the former rain, the First Advent), and to the great rain of his strength (the latter rain, i.e., the Second Advent)."

Proverbs 31:10f speaks of "a virtuous woman" for her price is far above rubies...She riseth also while it is yet night (Rapture at night)...her candle goeth not out by night (like the wise virgins)...She is not afraid of the SNOW for her household...Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders (at the Rapture?)...She maketh fine linen, and selleth it...Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come...Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her...a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised. Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates (doors?)."

Rev. 1:14 says, "His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as SNOW," and this is at the time of the Rapture.

You know, I won't be a bit surprised if it snows at the time of the Rapture.

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Is it saturn?

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Yes. It's the 3rd heaven, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. It has 7 rings around it. The LXX of Zech. 3:10 says, "For as for the stone which I have set before the face of Jesus, on the one stone are seven eyes (orbs, i.e., circles, rings)." At Sinai, "there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven (heavenly body) in his clearness (tohar, glory)." Sapphire is from the Hebrew sappir, which is from the Sanskrit sanipriya, literally, dear to the planet Saturn, from Sani, Saturn, plus priya, dear. No wonder the mountain was called Sinai.

I knew that Mount Sinai represented Heaven, but I learned more about this from Avi Ben Mordechai. In Signs in the Heavens, on page 276, under the chart heading "CORRELATION TO ISRAEL & MT. SINAI" he has this rich nugget: "Exodus 19:17: Then Moses led the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain. [Literally in Hebrew: Tachtit--underneath the mountain as in the mountain being in the air and floating above the people]." I love this picture.

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I have heard that a man in Texas is prediciting that March 30th will be "the end of the world", What is your resonse to that?

On a more somber note, I live in Jonesboro, Arkansas, and I have a five year old son who attends Westside school. I also have a neice and nephew who go to school there. We are in shock at what has happened. My sister in law is a teacher's aide at the middle school and was right in the middle of all the gunfire. Two children we go to church with were shot in this horrible incident. Thank God they weren't killed! I respectfully request your prayers for our family and community. I hope you are right about May 31st.. I would love nothing better than to see my blessed Savior coming back to get me and my family. Thank you for your prayers. God Bless You

My reply

It is so shocking to be in a death-dealing situation like this. Father, I pray for the survivors to be able to put it behind them and not let it ruin their lives. Heal their hurt. In Jesus' name, Amen.

> I have heard that a man in Texas is prediciting that March 30th will be
> "the end of the world", What is your resonse to that?

March 30, 1998 is Nisan 3, 5758 on the Jewish Calendar. What significance has that date? None that I know of. It is neither a feast day nor the beginning of the Jewish Sacred Year.

I do not think the world will ever end. Psalms 78:69 mentions, "THE EARTH WHICH HE HATH ESTABLISHED FOR EVER." When Revelation speaks of "a new heaven and a new earth," the Greek word "kainon," translated "new," means refreshed, i.e., made as good as new. It does not mean created from nothing.

The seven trumpet judgments will cause devastating destruction on the 2300th day of the Tribulation (probably Sept., 13, 2007), but even then, Earth will not break apart as Rahab, Satan's planet, did in times past.

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From the Abraham Forum:
> Marilyn, The day of the week is not mentioned in these scriptures as it
> is not even a point of issue... and if it were a point that the Lord
> wanted to make, and IF it were a Sunday, the Lord would have made it
> perfectly clear by calling it "the 1st day of the week" which is
> what the N.T. writers called it. I personally believe it is not the
> day of the week being discussed but the "day of the Lord"... and so
> we can agree to disagree agreeably as you had mentioned.
> Shalom, Jan

> Or perhaps, it could be the only day that the L-rd calls His: Isaiah 58:13
> Love, Baruch

> Baruch, How nice to hear from you.... yes, the Sabbath is the only 'day
> of the week' that I could agree would be the L-rd's day.

> I think it is interesting that in Rev. chapter one, John wrote:
> 1.) that he was in a vision
> 2.) into a specific time frame **
> 3.) he heard things
> 4.) he saw things
> 5.) he was instructed to write these things

> ** on or in ?
> On the L-rd's day could only be the Sabbath.
> In the L-rd's day could only be the "day of the L-rd".

> > This scripture is not referring to Sunday in any manner.
> Shalom and Happy L-rd's Day, Jan

***From Marilyn: The Greek term for the Lord's day in Rev. 1:10 is a different one than is used anywhere else in the New Testament. Peter Michas (who is Greek) explained on his forum that it is referring to Sunday as the Imperial day.

If one thinks it refers to the Sabbath, Saturday, why is it not referred to as the Sabbath, the term used elsewhere? The Sabbath is a sign between the Lord and the Israelites. In Revelation, Jesus' message is directed to the Church. Saturday had no special significance to the Church in Passion Week. Jesus was in the tomb. Sunday was Resurrection Day. The Rapture includes resurrection.

That Sunday was a day of triumph. The Rapture is a day of triumph. Resurrection Sunday was a day of ascension. The Rapture is a day of ascension. It is the day the Old Testament saints were taken to Heaven, a good picture of the New Testament saints will be taken to Heaven on a Sunday. I do not think that they will be caught up on the Feast of Firstfruits because Christ himself is the Firstfruits, but that they will be caught up on Sunday. I Cor. 15:23 says, "But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming." If the Firstfruits ascended on Sunday, there is reason to think the remainder of the firstfruit harvest will be on Sunday.

John 20:16-19 says, "Jesus saith unto her, Mary (Magdalene, Mk. 16:9), She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God...Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you."

Luke 24:21,33,36-39 shows that at this time, Jesus let himself be touched: "today is the third day since these things (the Crucifixion) were done....And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together...And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them...And he said...Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."

In between meeting Mary Magdalene and his appearing to the eleven disciples, Jesus ascended to Heaven and came back. This is when he took those in Paridise to Heaven. Eph. 4:8-10 says, "When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)."

The Pre-Trib Rapture cannot be in the millennial Day of the Lord. Jesus told John, "Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter" in Rev. 4:1. The Day of the Lord cannot begin until after Elijah returns (Mal. 4:5).

Rev. 1:10f is a Preview of the Pre-Trib Rapture that takes place in Rev. 4:1. Yeshua is seen as he will be seen at the time of the Rapture. All around him are the churches and in his hand are the star performers that he has just snatched up. The Revelation of Jesus Christ is written as if the Rapture is "at hand" (Rev. 1:3; 22:10,20). John is told to "Write the things which thou hast seen (things before the Rapture), and the things which are (at the Rapture), and the things which shall be hereafter (after the Rapture, as in 4:1).

Since John became in the Spirit on the Lord's day, I think that the Rapture will take place on Sunday--next Pentecost Sunday, in Israel's Jubilee Year, the only Pentecost Sunday left within this 40-year time of testing and probation since Israel grew leaves (Sinai, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, and West Bank) in the Six-Day War. This year, 5758, is also the 6,000th year since man began to be tested as mortal and knowing both good and evil.

During this Church era, believers are called priests, but Israel is now between 30 and 49 years old since the time of the Gentiles ended on June 7, 1967 (Lu. 21:24). She is of age now to take up the priesthood again.

I know that there are those that disagree, but Jesus said that "they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation" (Lu. 19:44). If those people should have known the time of His coming, we should know the time of His coming. In Mark 13:23, Jesus said, "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you ALL things." He told the churches, "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief (the Pre-Wrath Rapture, before Armageddon, Rev. 16, 15,16), and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee" (Rev. 3:3). What will the church know if we do watch? Right. What hour he will come for us before the Tribulation begins. I think it will be soon. Shabbat Shalom

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Re: letter from 5 Doves site (text below)

My reply

Thanks for sending this file. However, I disagree with Charles Ryalls on several points. I will intersperse my comments in his letter.

> Charles Ryalls (27 March)

"March 28th"

> March 28th is the last day of the Jewish year that we think of as 1997
> by the Sacred Calendar.

***From Marilyn: On the Talmudic Calendar, Nisan 1 is March 28. Thus the last day of the previous Sacred Year was Adar 29, March 27.

> It is also by the calculations of my study "As in the days of Noah" the last
> day completing 6000 years since the creation of Adam.

***It is the 6000th year since Adam was cast out of the Garden of Eden, when man began to be tested as mortal and knowing both good and evil. Adam was in the Garden 40 years previous to that day.

> I do not know ifthis will be recognized with any fireworks, in fact I would doubt
> it, but I do expect to see many changes begin to occur in a rapid succession.

> This marks the end of the time of Satan's reign which we are now
> living in. As of March 29, we are on "God's Time" as it were.

***Satan's reign does not end until after the Tribulation. I think dominion will be taken from him at the end of the full seven years at the Judgment of the Nations.

> I feel with a very high confidence that the tribulation will begin by this fall
> at the end of the feast days of Sukkot.

***I expect the Tribulation to begin on the Feast of Weeks in 2001. It is the Seventieth Week of Daniel. I think the fall feasts have to do with the Millennium.

> It is then 1260 days to the passover of 2002. It is then 1290 days from
> passover 2002 to the fifth day of Rosh Ha Shannah in 2005.

***I think God's timing would hit exactly on Rosh Ha Shannah, not five days off. The feasts are God's appointed times. He would not miss by one iota.

> This day in 2005 is a special Sabbath, known as the Sabbath of return in the Jewish
> tradition. Some may argue that there is no way to assure the counting of years
> from the time of Adam can be correct. And I would have to agree if it were not for
> the fact that the Lord gave us a short cut by telling us, that the last days would
> be as it was in the days of Noah. We only need to count from the re-establishment of
> the nation Israel.

> It was 1,948 years from the creation of Adam to the birth of Abram.

***Adam was created just before Tishri 1, Rosh Ha Shannah, began in 4043 BC. God rested on Rosh Ha Shannah. Abram was born in 2008 AH (2035 BC). I get 2008 years when I subtract 2035 from 4043, not 1948.

> Like wise it was 1,948 from the birth of Christ, the second Adam, to the birth of
> modern Israel, the second Abram.(Abraham)

***Christ is the second Adam, not the second Abram.

***I think Christ was born on Tishri 1, in our 5 B.C., and that the Wise Men visited him in 3 B.C. before Herod died in B.C. 1. B.C. 5 + 1948 - 1 for there was no zero year = 1952 years, not 1948.

***From B.C. 5 to approximately B.C. 3, Herod must have still been alive. Ernest Martin says that there were no eclipses during B.C. 3 and B.C. 2. Avi Ben Mordechai agrees. Therefore, the next eclpse was that of January 10 Julian (Jan. 8, Gregorian), B.C. 1, a total eclipse, central at 1:00 A.M. This would place Herod's death during the twelve and a half weeks between that "eclipse of the moon" mentioned by Josephus (Ant. Bk 17: Sect. 167 (17:6:4) and the following Passover. This gives plenty of time for the activities associated with Herod's elaborate funeral.

***Since I mentioned B.C. 3, consider this correlation: Jesus was anointed King (given gold) and High Priest (given frankincense and myrrh) by the wise men in B.C. 3 (the 4000th year since Adam was cast out of Eden and man began to be tried as mortals knowing both good and evil). The year B.C. 3 + 1998 - 1 for there was no zero year = 2000 years. This year, 5758, our 1997/1998, is the 6000th year since Adam was cast out of the Garden of Eden. Adam was cast out of the Garden in 4004/03 B.C. 6000 years - 4004/03 B.C. + 1 because of no zero year = 1997/98 A.D.

> Additionally it was 58 years from the birth of Abram to the death of Noah,

***Abram was born in 2008 A.H. (our 2035 B.C.). Noah lived 350 years after the Flood of 1656 A.H. (our 2387 B.C.). 2387 - 350 = 2037 B.C. B.C. 2037 - 2035 = 2 years, not 58.

> the marker for the end of the first age of man.

***There are three 2000-year Ages during which man is tested as mortal and knowing both good and evil. The Age of the Gentiles began in 4004/03 B.C. The Age of the Jews began in 2004/03 B.C. The Age of the Church began in 4/3 B.C. 1997/98 is the 6000th year of man's test since Adam was judged and left the Garden. He was tried 40 years, as the Second Adam was tried 40 days. Forty means testing and probation. The kings Saul, David, and Solomon were all tested forty years also. David earned the right to rule again during the Millennium.

> Using this same marker for the end of this age you count 58 years from the birth of
> modern Israel on Nov.29th 1947 brings you to the fall feast days in 2005. (That is
> by the chronology the 6007th year.)

> Another interesting point, in the account of Noah; we are told that God shut Noah
> up in the Ark and in seven days the floods came. That seven days may be a
> foreshadowing of the event we are looking for.

***I think it shows that the catching up, the Rapture, happens before the 7-year Tribulation judgment comes.

> Then it goes on to say that Ark was "lifted up high over the earth." On the 17th day
> of the second month the rains began. Strangely enough that happens to be May 13th
> this year, the last day which Israel will be considered 49 years old.

***Iyar 17 is May 13, 1998, but since the Sacred Year began later, at the Exodus, this may indicate Cheshvan 17, which was November 17, 1997.

> We may be very close to the blessed event, which will unite us with our Lord.

***I think the Rapture will be on Pentecost, May 31, 1998.

> We are also at a time when the enemy will fight with all his powers of deception and
> division to war against us. Let us all have our eyes and minds fixed on Him, that we
> wait for Yeshua.

> -- In His Name, And Awaiting His Return,

> Charles Ryalls, Yeshua the King, http://www.yeshuatheking.org

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Re: Priests: I was refering to God telling the whole nation that they are priests, figuring they should be the same age as the temple priests.

Exodus 19: 6. And you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation. These are the words which you shall speak to the children of Israel.

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> Re: Priests: I was refering to God telling the whole nation that they are
> priests, figuring they should be the same age as the temple priests.

If we are to go by the year Israel was reborn as a nation, the farthest we could stretch it would be to start with when the UN accepted Israel as a nation in 1949. 1949 + 49 = 1998. However, that doesn't sound right in my ears because Israel will be sacrificing in the temple during the Tribulation. She will have priests at that time. However, if the Rapture happens before Pentecost, I will be happy....

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please send me more information on the 70th week of daniel, last trump, the rapture in song of songs, etc.

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The 70th week of Daniel is found in Dan. 9:24f. The "weeks" are literally sevens. They are actually weeks of years.

From the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem to the Crucifixion was 483 years. These started to be counted in 454 B.C., when Isa. 44:28 was fulfilled: " That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid."

After the Crucifixion, God's clock stopped for Israel. It will restart in the Tribulation, which is the Seventieth Week of Daniel, the "one week" of verse 27. It will start when a 7-year peace treaty is confirmed by the Beast and False Prophet.

While God's clock for Israel is stopped, he is gathering in the Church.

The first trump of God is heard at the Pre-Trib Rapture (I Thess. 4:13-18). The last trump is heard at the Pre-Wrath Rapture (I Cor. 15:51-53).

These are the two silver trumpets of Numbers 10. They are "for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps. And when they shall blow with them (both), ALL the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And if thy blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel (the elders of Rev. 4), shall gather themselves unto thee."

For the Rapture in the Song of Solomon, see: http://www.kiwi.net/~mjagee/song.html

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The sun, moon, and earth I agree are all within our solar system, but because they are all also spheres, I believe that it could also mean that heaven is a spherical realm outside of our phyisical universe.

Matt. 6:19-20 mentions that material things don't last; MOTH AND RUST DESTROY. So the treasures we build up in heaven are not subject to the same laws of thermal dynamics which cause material things to break down within this physical universe. Therefore, because I believe God is infinitely supreme and multidimensional (not limited to this one universe), He has reserved a special realm, called Heaven, for all those that love Him.

Matthew 24:35 says; Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

Which heaven will pass away? This universe?

Thanks for caring!

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> The sun, moon, and earth I agree are all within our solar system, but
> because they are all also spheres, I believe that it could also mean
> that heaven is a spherical realm outside of our phyisical universe.

Except that it can be seen.

Job 36:32;37:3 and 37:18-22 in the Septugint say, "He has hidden the light in his hands, and given charge concerning it to the interposing cloud...His dominion is under the whole heaven, and HIS LIGHT IS AT THE EXTREMITIES OF THE EARTH (so his light reaches Earth; it is visible).

"Wilt thou establish with him foundations for the ancient heavens?...But THE LIGHT IS NOT VISIBLE TO ALL (then it is visible to some); IT SHINES AFAR OFF IN THE HEAVENS, as that which is from him in the clouds. From the north (upward) come the CLOUDS SHINING LIKE GOLD (i.e., visible golden clouds such as Saturn has): in these great are the glory and honour of the Almighty." Christ is the Almighty (Rev. 1:8).

> Matt. 6:19-20 mentions that material things don't last; MOTH AND RUST
> DESTROY. So the treasures we build up in heaven are not subject to the
> same laws of thermal dynamics which cause material things to break down
> within this physical universe.

You are running too far with your material. Just because there are no moths and rust doesn't translate into "treasures we build up in heaven are not subject to the same laws of thermal dynamics which cause material things to break down" If God did not create moths in Heaven, how would they get there? Don't you think God is capable of creating things that do not rust? We make stainless steel.

> Therefore, because I believe God is infinitely supreme and
> multidimensional (not limited to this one universe), He has reserved a
> special realm, called Heaven, for all those that love Him.

> Matthew 24:35 says; Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

> Which heaven will pass away? This universe?

No. Heaven and EARTH WILL NOT ACTUALLY PASS AWAY. They will be refreshed, like changing an outer coat, as was done in Adam's day. Wow! I did not mean to capitalize that. Neither the caps lock nor shift key are down.

The Earth will exist forever. Psa. 104:5 asks, "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed forever?"

In Rev. 21:5, Jesus said, "Behold I make all things new." The word "kaina" means new, especially in freshness. Psa. 104:30 says, "Thou...renewest the face of the earth." This restoration is absolutely necessary for at that time, all green grass and a third of the trees have been burned. The water has been poisoned. The Mediterranean has become a dead sea.

The Lord "will make her (Israel's) wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD" (Eze. 37:35).

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I thought you were placing limitations on God by showing that His dealngs with mankind were confined to this universe alone..... i.e. Heaven's location.

But when I saw the capitalized words; "EARTH WILL NOT ACTUALLY PASS AWAY", I realized at that moment that I myself was placing limitations on what God could do within the confines of this universe or solar system.

After all, with God ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!! Even Heaven's location nestled away beneth those golden clouds.

GOD BLESS YOU MARILYN for bringing this issue to light for me and hopefully others!!!

You are truely a wise and faithful servent!! Your friend in Christ Jesus,

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First, let me thank you for the tremendous work you are doing. You have greatly inspired me to walk more closely with the Lord and to keep myself filled with the Holy Spirit. Whether or not the rapture is on May 31, 1998, one would have to be blind not to see that more that ever we are living in a time in which the rapture could happen at any moment. If it does not occur as you suspect, I'm not concerned as I will keep looking up. Either way, we don't have long to wait. I have read everything on your web site and I purchased Revelations 2000 this weekend. I am thoroughly enthralled! Ever since reading your statements about the parable of the fig tree growing leaves when still tender, and the parable about Jesus checking the tree for fruit for four years, I kept thinking that there seemed to be something missing. I believe I may have found the answer to the second parable in Jeremiah 8:13 I have included several translations

NIV - I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them. [1] The meaning of the Hebrew for this sentence is uncertain.

RSV - When I would gather them, says the LORD, there are no grapes on the vine, nor figs on the fig tree; even the leaves are withered, and what I gave them has passed away from them.

KJV - I will surely consume them, saith the LORD: there shall be no grapes on the vine, nor figs on the fig tree, and the leaf shall fade; and the things that I have given them shall pass away from them.

This sounds very much like the "Land for Peace" policy Israel is pursuing with it's Arab neighbors. With the giving back of the Sinai to Egypt and the trading of even more land in the Gaza, when the Lord returns after four years, He will find that the leaves that had sprouted in the six day war have withered.

I would appreciate any thoughts you may have on this verse and how, if at all, it might fit in.

My reply

Thanks for all your kind comments.

> You have greatly inspired me to walk more closely with the Lord and to keep
> myself filled with the Holy Spirit.

Wonderful. That is what is most important.

Jeremiah 8:13 has to do with the time after the shortened Tribulation ends and the Millennium begins. Verse 20 says, "The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved." This seems to be the lament of those left behind the second time.

In 2007, Sept. 13 is Tishri 1, 5768, the Feast of Trumpets, the day of Rapture II and the beginning of the Millennium. Autumn will begin about Sept. 21. The very next day is the Day of Atonement, a likely time for this particular statement to be fulfilled.

> no grapes on the vine, nor figs on the fig tree

The grapes and figs represent those taken to Heaven in Rapture II. This harvest is already past.

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I've been viewing your Bible prophecy web page. Great page. All the information is well researched.

Just a small personal concern.
I see how you've mentioned 1997/1998 as the rapture year. Isn't it somewhat unwise to be predicting dates?

Once again, I see all the research that you've put into arriving at the "rapture year" but I feel that it's probably best to not predict.

I've always felt that the God has planned it such that the rapture will be totally unpredictable. And really, that's the way it ought to be. It's my personal incentive for living a holy life. I know that Christ can sound that Trumpet at any time. To recognize the signs of the times is one thing. I do believe that this generation might be the one that will be raptured. But to be predicting exact dates, months and years of future events is probably not a good idea.

Oh well, it's just my opinion.

But anyhow... if you have a moment to write back then that would be great. I'm actually in the process of building a Gospel Web Page of my own. I'm surely gonna get some tips from your page.

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After asking the Lord to show me everything he wanted man to know about the Bible--all the deep things, everything, I saw a rectangle of light on Jer. 50:2. It said to publish and conceal not and that is what I am doing. It doesn't matter what man's opinion is. What matters is to do what the Lord wants.

Right now, if the possibility of the Rapture happening next May 31 isn't enough personal incentive for living a holy life from now until then, I don't know what it would take.

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> Mark 13:32 says:
> "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are
> in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

> There are four categories here: man, angels, Son and Father. What's
> missing? Interesting that Jesus doesn't mention the Holy Spirit. Jesus is
> after all distinguishing between the Father and the Son here as opposed to
> God and the Son. Isn't it the Holy Spirit who reveals all things in 1 John
> 2:20?

***From Marilyn: The Holy Spirit = the Spirit of God = the Spirit of Christ, and he does reveal "all things" to the last generation, the "Little children" of I John 2:18.

> Let's take a look at another place that talks about not knowing:

> Luke 10:22 says:
> "All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the
> Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom
> the Son will reveal him."

> Oh really? No man knoweth who the Son is?

***"and he to whom the Son will reveal him."

> I can agree that no one really
> understood who the Son was at that time. Even John the Baptist had his
> doubts. However we DO KNOW NOW who the Son is. That is because the Holy
> Spirit has revealed this to us. 1 Cor 2:14: "But the natural man receiveth
> not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him:
> neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

> 1 John 4:2 = "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that
> confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:"

> Therefore, I tend to agree with you more on the present tense of Mark 13:32
> and the fact that the Holy Spirit is the one who reveals Jesus Christ. Our
> Lord Jesus is always at the center of things! Hallelujah!

> I know that you do not claim to be a prophet but Amos 3:7 does say that:

> "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his
> servants the prophets."

***Yes, but for us it is in Scripture. During the Tribulation, Moses and Elijah will prophesy again.

> "Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find
> watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them
> to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them." - Luke 12:37.

***I'm watching, and you obviously are too. See you at the Rapture. That is going to be a fun day/night.

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