Possible Mass Conversion of Dalits in India
Another reason for the postponement is that there are some very interesting changes in the circumstances surrounding this mass conversion to Buddhism. Originally, the Dalits were to be asked to convert only to Buddhism. Now, by Godís grace, the option of finding freedom in Christ will also be presented. The Dalit leaders have been investigating 3 religions, Islam and Buddhism, as well as Christianity. Muslim and Buddhist leaders assured them that they would do whatever was needed to bring the 300 million Outcast Hindus into their camp. When they met with Christian leaders they were told that the Christians could not help them because they would not be able to handle the repercussions from the Indian government. But, there were those Dalit leaders who were not ready to give up so easily on the option of choosing Christianity.
Koizumi peace gift for Bush (with picture of arrow in a box) http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/east/10/20/apec.japan.gift/index.html
By Alex Frew McMillan 10-20-01 SHANGHAI CNN - Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi has presented U.S. President George W. Bush with a gift that he says is a symbolic weapon in the U.S. fight against terrorism.
Koizumi presented Bush with a bow and arrows -- one of which was contained in a wooden box that had been hand-painted with calligraphy by the Japanese leader.
"To defeat evil and bring peace on earth," Koizumi's inscription read....
It also says, "all the men that are upon the face (paniym) of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face, i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man, Mt. 24:30. Eze. 38:23 says, "I will be known in the EYES of many nations." It is the day the Sign of the Son of Man is seen, not the Second Advent.
Eze. 38:20 (LITV) says, "the fish of the sea, and the birds of the heavens, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all men on the face (paniym) of the earth, shall quake at My face (paniym). And the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground."
The Day of Destruction is the day of thick darkness (Joel 2:1-3). Zech. 14:5-7 shows that the day of the Second Advent is not a dark day. It says, "it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark: But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light."
Nahum 1:1-9 sums up the day. It mentions the Lord's vengeance, wrath, anger, and says, "his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks (asteroids) are thrown down by him. The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble...with an overrunning flood he will make an utter end of the place thereof...he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time." In the middle of this, v. 5 says, "The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at this presence (paniym, face, i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man), yea, the world, and all that dwell therein." Nahum 1:15; 2:1 says, "O Judah, keep thy solemn feasts, perform thy vows: for the wicked shall no more pass through thee; he is utterly cut off. He that dasheth in pieces is come up before thy face (paniym)."
From Mal. 2:3, we see that the day of God's Wrath is on a feast day. It says, "YOUR SOLEMN FEASTS; AND ONE SHALL TAKE YOU AWAY WITH IT." Hos 9:5,6 says, "What will ye do in the solemn day, and in the day of the FEAST of the LORD? For, lo, they are gone because of destruction." Hos. 5:7-10 says, "They have dealt treacherously against the LORD: for they have begotten strange children: now shall a MONTH (lit., new moon, i.e., Feast of Trumpets) devour them with their portions. Blow ye the cornet in Gibeah, and the TRUMPET in Ramah: cry aloud at Bethaven, after thee, O Benjamin. Ephraim shall be desolate in the day of rebuke: among the tribes of Israel have I made known that which shall surely be. The princes of Judah were like them that remove the bound: therefore I will pour out my wrath upon them like water."
Hos. 5:7 (LITV) says, "They have acted treacherously against Jehovah, for they have brought forth strange sons. Now a NEW MOON shall devour them with their portions." The only feast that is on the new moon is the Feast of Trumpets. Therefore, the Day of God's Wrath is Tishri 1.
In Eze. 39:2, 4, we are told that only 1/6th of Gog's army is left. The rest "shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel." That leaves a lot of dead bodies in Israel on Tishri 1. Men see the Sign of the Son of Man on Tishri 1, but that Day of Destruction is not the day of the Second Advent.
Eze. 39:11-13 says, "it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. And SEVEN MONTHS SHALL THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL BE BURYING OF THEM, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown THE DAY THAT I SHALL BE GLORIFIED, saith the Lord GOD."
He will return in glory at the Second Advent, 7 months after Tishri 1. I think it will be Nisan 1, 5768 (Apr. 6, 2008). It has to be in a Jewish Leap Year with Adar II, and 5768 is a Leap Year. Nisan 1 is the first day of the Jewish Regnal Year and Sacred Year, Regnal because he is King of kings, Sacred because he is Lord of lords.
Eze. 29:17 sets the day as Nisan 1. It says, "in the first month, in the first day of the month." Then verse 21 says, "Eze 29:21 In that day (Nisan 1) will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel (Christ) to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth (the Word, Logos) in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD." I think Jesus Christ will officially take office on Earth on the same day all the other Israelite kings officially took office.
Counting back the 2300 days of Dan. 8:13,14 (by Jewish inclusive reckoning) from Nisan 1, 5768 (Apr. 6, 2008), we arrive at Teveth 4, 5762 (Dec. 19, 2001). It seems that the Rapture should take place before that. Coming up are these possibilities: Cheshvan/Heshvan 17 (Nov. 3, 2001), the day that Noah entered the Ark with his family and the Lord closed the door, Cheshvan 27 (Nov. 13), when he left the Ark, and Kislev 15 (Dec. 10), Hanukkah. It could be any day, but the way God works, I expect the day of the Rapture to be prefigured somewhere. In Mark 13:23, Jesus said, "take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things." The time clues we need are all in the Bible somewhere. They will tie in with current events for we have been told over and over to watch.
Dan. 8:14 says that the sanctuary will be cleansed at the end of the 2300 days. That ties in with Eze. 45:18, which says, "Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month (Nisan 1), thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary." I think that refers to the day of the Second Coming. Agape
Also, have you read anything about a Moslem prophecy "When the blue mosque(suposedly Isreal) falls, then the world would end. This sound like garbage someone told me but I have been unable to verify anything like that. Primarily because Muslims do not like to talk much about their religion (intellectually) Thanks
I haven't heard anything about when a blue mosque falls.... Agape
When Moses and Elijah are resurrected and caught up to Heaven Mid-Trib, there are no living ones that have not died that are caught up at the same time. However, it does show us that there is ascension when the words, "Come up hither" are heard (Rev. 11:12; 4:1).
These 2 Raptures were prefigured by the 2 silver trumpets Moses was to make. Nu. 10:2-4 says, "the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Make thee TWO TRUMPETS OF SILVER; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest USE THEM (plural) FOR THE CALLING OF THE ASSEMBLY, AND FOR THE JOURNEYING OF THE CAMPS. And when they shall blow with them (i.e., with both), ALL THE ASSEMBLY shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And if they blow but with ONE TRUMPET, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee."
FIRST TRUMP. The princes, heads of Israel are the 12 patriarchs, caught up at the first trump in I Thess. 4:13-18. At the same time that they are caught up, the 12 apostles are caught up--when John is caught up in Rev. 4:1. These are the 24 elders seated on their thrones right after the first Rapture (Rev. 4:4).
Heb 11:40 says, "God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect." The Old Testament saints are resurrected and caught up with us to meet Christ in the clouds at the First trump. It sounds in Rev. 4:1: "the FIRST voice which I heard was as it were of a TRUMPET (i.e., the first trump) talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER." The "first voice" refers us back to the Preview of the Rapture in Rev. 1. Verses 10 and 11 say, "I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a TRUMPET, Saying I am Alpha and Omega, the first (YHVH king of Israel) and the last (YHVH of hosts, the Redeemer, Christ, Isa. 44:6)." This ties in with Rev. 1:8: "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is (at the first Rapture), and which was (at the First Advent), and which is to come (at the second Advent), the Almighty."
The "FIRST VOICE" LIKE "A TRUMPET" of Rev. 4:1 is the FIRST "TRUMP OF GOD" of I Thess. 4:16,17. It says, "the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP OF GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first (including the OT saints): Then we which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP TOGETHER WITH THEM in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. "
LAST TRUMP. The 144,000 Israelites and the "great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations" are caught up to Heaven at the "LAST TRUMP" (I Cor. 15:51,52). "These are they which CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION" and are "before the throne of God" in Rev. 7. They arrive in Heaven on the day of the General Assembly. Heb. 12:22-25 says, "ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the GENERAL ASSEMBLY and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they ESCAPED (pheugo, to flee) NOT who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall NOT WE ESCAPE, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven."
Luke 21:36 says, "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that YE MAY BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE (ekpheugo, escape, to flee OUT OF) all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Rev. 3:10 (LITV) correctly translates ek as "out of." Because you kept the Word of My patience, I also will keep you OUT OF (ek) the hour of trial (the Tribulation) which is going to come on all the habitable world in order to try those dwelling on the earth.
Mark 13:24-27 shows when all saints are gathered for the general assembly in Heaven. It says, "take ye heed: behold, I HAVE FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS. But in those days, after that tribulation, the SUN SHALL BE DARKENED (6th seal, Rev. 6:12), and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then (before the 7th seal) shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory (the Sign of the Son of Man, Mt. 24:30, Rev. 6:14f). And then shall he send his angels, and shall GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT FROM THE FOUR WINDS, FROM THE UTTERMOST PART OF THE EARTH (the Pre-Wrath Rapture) TO THE UTTERMOST PART OF HEAVEN" (those previously caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture). This is when both trumpets sound together. One gathers the Pre-Trib saints from one end of Heaven to the other. The other one gathers the Pre-Wrath saints from one end of Earth to the other. Agape
The ISBE says of Tyre, "It was of considerable importance in the Crusades and continued so until toward the end of the 13th century, when its trade declined, and it has now dwindled to a town of some 5,000 inhabitants. (H. Porter).
In Eze. 28, Tyre (meaning rock) is a type of the asteroid Satan lives on. It is associated with the final fall of Babylon. Questions in Scripture are often to make us think. Eze. 27:32 says, "What city (Babylon) is like Tyrus (the rock), like the destroyed in the midst of the sea." Rev. 18:21 says, "a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all." Rev. 18:18 asks, "What city (Tyre) is like unto this great city (Babylon)!"
In Eze. 28:2, we see "the prince of Tyrus." He represents the Satan-possessed False Prophet, who says, "I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God."
In Eze. 28:12, we see the "king of Tyrus" (the rock, Satan is the king of his asteroid, Wormwood, Rev. 8-11). Verses 13,14 speak to Satan directly: "Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering (surroundings), the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth (guards; he's on the 'flaming sword" of Gen. 3:24); and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire" (the planets). Satan's planet Rahab that split apart and formed our Asteroid Belt was "in the midst" of the planetary lineup--Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, RAHAB, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.
When Rahab split apart, Satan took up residence on the asteroid Wormwood. Like Tyre, it has 2 parts. I think it is a binary asteroid, twice as long as wide. It is called "the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth" in Zech. 5:3). On the Day of God's Wrath, the mountain-sized piece will hit the Mediterranean Sea (Zeph. 2:4,5). The larger "aster" of Rev. 8:10 will destroy Babylon. I think that will be on Sept. 13, 2007. Agape
Glad you are enjoying "Be the Bride." I enjoyed it too.
Hope to meet you soon too. Maranatha. Agape
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Verse 15 says, "one wheel upon the earth." This showed me that one of the lively things was the Earth. Its wheel is its orbit. This made it possible to picture the whole thing. The four terrestrial planets fly in concentric orbits, wheels within wheels, around the central Sun. V. 13 says, "the likeness of the living creatures (lively things), their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps." No "living creatures" look like burning coals of fire, or like lamps in the sky. That is what the planets look like to us. Over their heads, i.e., farther out in space, was the Lord's throne.
Eze. 1:26-28 says, "above the firmament (expanse of space) that was over their heads (farther out in space than Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars) was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire (means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit sani, Saturn, and priya, dear) stone : and upon the likeness of the throne (on Saturn) was the likeness as the appearance of a man (Christ) above upon it. And I saw as the colour of amber (Saturn is yellow, brushed with amber), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (waist, i.e., from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire (the lamp was lit), and it had brightness round about (Saturn's rings surround it). As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD." No wonder the Lord calls the rainbow "my bow," (Gen. 9:13). A rainbow has the 7 colors of the spectrum. Heaven is surrounded by 7 rings.
We see the same symbolism of the sapphire in Ex. 24:10. It says, "they saw the God of Israel (Christ, YHVH king of Israel, and YHVH of hosts, the Redeemer, Isa. 44:6): and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were (symbolic language) the body of heaven (heavenly body, Saturn) in his clearness."
There are 7 rings around Saturn. Seven means complete and perfection. It is the Lord's number. We see this reflected in Zech. 3:8,9. It says, "I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH (Christ). For behold the stone (Saturn) that I have laid before Joshua (same name as Jesus, but from the Hebrew instead of the Greek); upon one stone (Saturn) shall be seven eyes" (orbs, rings).
Eze. 10:1-2 says, "behold, in the firmament (expanse of space) that was above the head of the cherubims (terrestrial planets) there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone (Saturn), as the appearance of the likeness of a throne. And he (Christ that sat on the throne) spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels (orbits), even under the cherub (Satan), and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims (from asteroids between the planets), and scatter them over the city" (Jerusalem). This will happen on the Day of God's Wrath, and it will stop Gog's army that is attacking Israel (Eze. 38).
That day will be the day of the worldwide earthquake when every wall will fall (Eze. 38:20. It is when the asteroids of Rev. 8:8,10 impact Earth. From that day, there are 7 months to the Second Advent. During that time, the Jews bury the dead to cleanse the land for his return in glory (Eze. 39:12,13).
I think Eze. 29:17 and 21 indicate that Christ will return on Nisan 1. Verse 17 sets the day as the first day of the first month. Then v. 21 says, "In that day will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth (the Word, the Logos) in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD." Hope this helps somewhat. Agape
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