Pro and Con 872

Posted 2-23-02

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go to Astronomy Picture of the Day, and read about a comet discovered this February 1st, and named Comet Ikeya- Zhang. It is currently heading north towards Cetus, and is expected to brighten significantly in March and April, to the point it may become visible to the unaided eye. Not a blockbuster, but another sign in the heavens.

My reply

Thanks for making sure I don't miss this. I prepared the following last night. The explanation says, "Comet Ikeya-Zhang is presently heading north in planet Earth's sky, framed by stars of the constellation Cetus."

BAD OMEN FOR ISRAEL?

Comet Ikeya-Zhang
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

Ikeya-Zhang is in the constellation Cetus (which depicts Satan) and heading north. Discovered February 1st, it is expected to brighten significantly. It could become a naked-eye object in March and April. It should pass closest to the Sun on March 18 between the orbits of Mercury and Venus.

Of 66 AD, after mentioning "the signs that were so evident, and did so plainly foretell their future desolation," Josephus said, "Thus there was a star resembling a sword, which stood over the city (Jerusalem), and a comet, that continued a whole year" (Wars.VI.V.3). (emphasis mine)

If I remember right, a Rabbi said that a comet that goes through Orion is supposed to be a bad omen for Israel. If the Tribulation starts this year, as seems likely, this comet might be Israel's bad omen. I wonder if it will go through Orion.

Cetus is pictured with a little horn (representing the Satan-possessed False Prophet of Dan. 8:9-11) pointing toward the Pleiades (representing the Bride group) in Taurus (representing Christ, who will win over Satan). Saturn is near there now. Cetus has his front feet in Eridanus, the River of Fire that goes down, down, down (representing Hell).
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Musharraf Berates Entire Muslim World
Wants Young Muslims To Study In The West
By Zaffar Abbas in Islamabad BBCNews.com
http://www.rense.com/general20/ber.htm
2-15-2 - Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has said Islamic countries will remain backward unless they concentrate more on scientific and technological development. Muslim nations are internally involved in fratricidal conflicts and perceived by the outside world as terrorists with little attention being given on their uplift, he said.

"Today we are the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most un-enlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race."...

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Re: NEW VIRUS 5 MIN. AGO
Norton repaired this email. I didn't click on it and deleted it twice. Not about to open it. The title that came in reads: "Inc. RJ Services - He says that the Lord will turn his afflictions." I never click on an email if I am unsure and I have never heard of "Inc. RJ Services."

Norton said the attachment "spent.exe" has virus W32Magistr.39921@mmvirus

Be on the lookout for this infected "religious" message.

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Saudi Crown Prince says considered offering peace to Israel

Ha'aretz 2-17-02 - The Saudi Crown Prince, Abduallah bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud, has considered proposing that the Arab world offer Israel full normalization of relations in exchange for full withdrawal from all the occupied territories in accord with UN resolutions, including in Jerusalem, The New York Times reported Sunday.

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Re: 2002
Believe it or not but 8.02pm on February 20 this year will be a historic moment in time. It will not be marked by the chiming of any clocks or the ringing of bells, but at that precise time, on that specific date, something will happen which has not occurred for 1,001 years and will never happen again. As the clock ticks over from 8.01pm on Wednesday, February 20, time will, for sixty seconds only, read in perfect symmetry 2002, 2002, 2002, or to be more precise - 20:02, 20/02, 2002. This historic event will never have the same poignancy as the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month which marks Armistice Day, but it is an event which has only ever happened once before, and is something which will never be repeated. The last occasion that time read in such a symmetrical pattern was long before the days of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock -- at 10.01am on January 10, 1001. And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is something that will never happen again.

My reply

Thanks. I'm quite sure I would have missed that one. Have you thought about that being one week before Shushan Purim (Jan. 27/Adar 15, 5762)? Noah was given a 7-day warning, so I'm on the lookout for anything that might be a 7-day warning preceeding the Rapture.

However, it will still be winter. If Song of Solomon 2:10-14 applies to the Rapture, it tells us that "winter is past, the rain is over and gone; The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (turtledove) is heard in our land." The turtledove arrives in Israel in April and leaves in October. Agape

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Re: The Debate of the 17th.
I really love you as my sister in Christ, Marilyn! That was beautiful. I'm printing that one and forwarding it to all my friends and relatives! Bless you. Agape

My reply

Thanks for the encouragement. Agape

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From South Africa
I am SICK of this **Low Priority** guy called Rich Pope. I don't know how u have the patience. U do not have to explain a thing to him. He is just like all the Jehovah's Witnesses. He wants to convert to Judaism, so let him. If he has the guts. (Anyone who was once a christian and who can honestly denounce Jesus as the one and only true God) deserves the consequences.

Marilyn I LOVE your site. You have taught me sooooooooo much. Keep up the good work. BUT PLEASE GET RID OF THIS NUISANCE (**Low Priority**) he is taking up valuable time and he is a Bore. Regards

My reply

It's funny, but I put some of his e-mails in the Deleted Items folder and told Ed I was through with that, because he wasn't listening. Sometimes, I get overruled in the strangest ways. How I got into the Deleted Items folder and thought it was the Inbox folder, I don't remember. Anyway, I decided to have one last shot, quoting Dr. Tabor's translation of Isa. 53. Someone must need to read Isa. 53, someone that will pay attention to what the Lord is saying, either now or after the Rapture takes place.

Before and after Isa. 53 are neat verses too. Isa. 52:10 says, "The LORD (YHVH) hath made bare his holy arm (Yeshua) in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation (yshuwah) of our God." Pronounce those two words in bold type. They sound the same. Isa. 54:5 says, "thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD (YHVH) of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called." Agape

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Re: Rich Pope and friend
Marilyn, I am praying for you as you do battle with these two. I admire your skill as you respond to their attacks on the blessed Lord Jesus (I noticed that Rich's friend would not even put a capital on the beginning of Jesus's name).

The Father loves the Son. I only pray that God will grant that the blinded minds of these two men will be given revelation of the Light of Christ, the only begotten Son of God. The time is so short. When you are gone, the Lord Jesus having come for His bride, then they will know that the words that Jesus spoke are truth, and that He and His Father are One. Bless you. Much love

My reply

I appreciate your prayers. I pray for the Lord's help. Many times I am amazed that I stumble upon just the right scripture at the right time. That reveals his hand. He said that without him we could do nothing, and that's the truth.

At least, they will know at the judgment that they were presented with the truth. The fault for not accepting it will fall on their own shoulders. If they don't change, they will be without excuse. Agape

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Re: Dr. Seyffarth
I was just reading your article on God's message in the stars.... in it you quote from Joseph Seiss's book....

"according to Dr. Seyffarth, is an exact notation of the actual condition of the heavens at an ascertainable date"

Any idea who Dr. Seyffarth is???? Thanks

My reply

This is what I know about him. At the first mention, Seiss said, "the learned Dr. Seyffarth, than whom there is not a more competent witness living, affirms that we have the most conclusive proof that our Zodiac goes back among the Romans a far as seven hundred and fifty-two years before Christ, among the Greeks seven hundred and seventy-eight years before Christ, among the Egyptians twenty-seven hundred and eighty-one years before Christ, and among the Oriental peoples as far as thirty-four hundred and forty-seven years before Christ--even to within the lifetime of Adam himself. Agape

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Re: Artscroll's Stone Edition
Dear Marilyn, I would be happy to get this for you....It would be such a pleasure to help you in some small way. Hugs to you and Ed. YSIC

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-5473029-5623015

My reply

I would love it, and it is the right one, the Artscroll "Tanach: the Stone edition," Thank you so much....

While at Amazon.com, I found and printed Gen. 1:1-2:13 in the Stone edition. It starts out, "In the beginning of God's creating the heavens and the earth--when the earth was astonishingly empty, with darkness upon the surface of the deep, and the Divine Presence hovered upon the surface of the waters--God said, "Let there be light," and there was light."

Rich's friend Shmuel said of Gen. 1:26: "the real Septuagint says "let ME make man". Yours I assure you says, "Let US make man"."

I wonder if he realizes that the "Tanach: the Stone edition" undermines him. Gen. 1:26,27 says, "And God said, "Let us make Man in Our image, after Our likeness ...So God created Man in His image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."

It sounds like this to me. See what you think. Adam was body, soul and spirit. Eve was created out of Adam's bone and flesh (his DNA). They were separate, yet they were united. She was bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh. Like Adam, she was also body, soul and spirit. As Eve was of the substance of Adam, Christ is of the substance of his Father, separate, yet united, because they are of the same substance. In John 10:30, Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." Hugs to you too. Agape

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Re: Thanks
Bless you, Bless you for your wonderful work. God told us to do our homework. I am a science teacher. You get an A+. The dialogue with Rich Pope is a wonderful opportunity to address Jews. I suspect that the European descended American Christians of today are actually part of the lost tribes of Israel and we are part of the original covenant as well as the new covenant. Genealogy is important in the Bible and will be important in identifying the Antichrist. Then our genealogy is also important. Do you have an opinion on this?

I enjoy your website, and read every issue. Praise God for the opportunity He has given us through the internet to share information. Agape

My reply

Thanks. What a surprise. I feel like I have studied just about all my life. The Lord gave me a curiosity that keeps me going. I hate to waste time. I carry a Bible around with me to read when I have to wait for Ed at Cardiac Rehab, etc.

As for genealogy, I worked on that for awhile too. I had 40 pages in one when something happened to the floppy disk so I couldn't open it anymore. I was using Word Handler on my old 512 K Mac and had no idea WH couldn't handle anything larger than 40 pages. As quick as I typed one character that would have gone on the 41st page, I was through with genealogy.

I found 1Ti 1:4. It said, "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do." Therefore, I figured out that my time would be better spent continuing my Bible studies. It was interesting to find out that I was descended from John, a locksmith in England in the 1700s. I found out which of his descendants, also locksmiths, were brave enough to come to the United States in 1840 and switch to farming, but I didn't really need to know that.

As for the scattered Jews, I think that the Lord has seen to it that they keep their distinctive look and most can be identified in all parts of the world.

I don't believe in British Israelism. Rev. 3:9 is enough to steer me clear of that. It says, "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

Yes, praise God for the Internet. I could never have seen this coming, but God trains us up for what he knows will be coming in our future. Agape

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Re: why sin needs a blood sacrifice
Marilyn, in response to one of your readers questions about blood sacrifice. Didn't God show us in the beginning that sin needed bloodshed to be covered when Adam and Eve sinned? God did the first sacrifice to cover there sin and then covered there nakedness. (clothed them) Was this an example for his children to follow?

Church?
Marilyn, we don't attend a church full time. We do however follow your study daily. Is this church? And should we tithe to your ministry? Something inside me tells me that this is what church is all about. What you are teaching and sharing. And we I think do the same for you sometimes. Besides the scriptural and spiritual support we need to support you financially. Do you think that Jesus considers this the New Century Church?

I felt led to visit a church close to my home and I talked with one of the church leaders and this person said they don't believe Jesus is coming anytime soon because there work is not finished, preaching the Gospel to the world. And that there are some tribes in the world that have unwritten languages still. So they are not preparing or watching for Jesus to come. I don't understand why the Holy Spirit would want me to attend this church. They are very much asleep. I don't want to be lulled to sleep. God says we should not forsake the gathering of. Is it a command to go to church? The church to my understanding is for building each other up, supporting each other in prayer, financially, we are to take care of our brothers.

My reply

You're right. The first demonstration that a blood sacrifice was necessary was when the Lord killed the lamb after Adam and Eve sinned. There is more to it too. When they were clothed with the lamb skin, it symbolized their sins being covered by the Spirit of Christ, the Lamb of God. When God looked on them, he saw the lamb skin instead of their nakedness. In Hebrew, atonement means covering. Their sins were covered by the sacrifice of the Lamb God created.

Is our getting together on the Internet a church? The only person I have heard give his opinion on this was Ernest Martin, who has recently gone to be with the Lord. He said of his work posting on the Internet that it was a church, but I don't know myself. I know that if 2 or 3 gather together in Christ's name, he is there among them. That would seem like the core of a church group, but we are not physically gathering together.

I sure don't think anyone should tithe to me. However, I know that God's money can be distributed as we see fit to further God's work. The Holy Spirit leads in these matters.

Some people have been so good to me. I'm just floored when I receive financial help when I need it, Bibles, other books, tapes, videos, a more than adequate computer, a new domain name (prophecycorner.com) and a large enough web site to hold all my files, even copies of all those files when I managed to erase them from my computer somehow. A man and his friend managed to get us a loan to get the house in my name when we couldn't. Someone even sent gift certificates to Hometown Buffet so we could have a treat. I got a few coupons for free gas for the car. Just today, someone said they will get the Artscroll Stone Edition of the Old Testament for me, which is much appreciated. It is all so unbelievable that this would happen to us, all I can do is to express my heartfelt thanks to those wonderful people and to the Lord, who works all things together for good for those that love the Lord. I sure do love the Lord, and he knows it. Our lives are in his hands, come what may. Agape

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Re: Silver Trumpets
go to: http://www.templemountfaithful.org
and click on to "..Israelis March To and Around the Gates of the Temple Mount"

They did this on 1 Adar 5762 (February 12, 2002), in observance of the first of the month. They stopped at each gate, and blew silver trumpets that the movement had reconstructed. You have noted that the blowing of silver trumpets prefigured the raptures. It is another eye-opener that Jews are now blowing silver trumpets on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Love to you

My reply

Wow! What an interesting idea. Thanks. New trumpets and the first trump. It could mark this as the year of the first trump, the "trump of God" in I Thess. 4:16,17.

I just looked up Nu. 10:1-4 in the LXX. It says, "the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, Make to thyself two silver trumpets: thou shalt make them of beaten work; and they shall be to thee for the purpose of CALLING THE ASSEMBLY, AND OF REMOVING THE CAMPS. And thou shalt sound with them (plural, i.e, with them both), and all the congregation shall be gathered to THE DOOR (symbol of the Rapture, Rev. 3:8; 4:1) of the tabernacle of witness. And if they shall SOUND WITH ONE, all the rulers ('kings and priests,' Rev. 5:10) even the princes of Israel (the 24 elders, 12 patriarchs of Israel and the 12 apostles) shall COME TO THEE." Verse 6 says, "they shall sound an alarm at their DEPARTURE."

That's a pretty good picture of our departure. However, I'm sure glad I looked up the same passage in the KJV so I could find the Hebrew words and their meanings.

It says, "the LORD spake unto Moses (meaning saved by the water, i.e., as in the days of Noah), saying, Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling (miqra, REHEARSAL, something called out) of the assembly, and for the journeying (macca, DEPARTING) of the camps. And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble (yaad, (TO ENGAGE [FOR MARRIAGE]) themselves to thee at the door (pethack, ENTERING IN) of the tabernacle (ohel, DWELLING PLACE) of the congregation. And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather (yaad, TO ENGAGE [FOR MARRIAGE]) themselves unto thee." V. 6 says, "they shall blow an alarm for their journeys (macca, DEPARTURE)."

This first trump will catch up those engaged for marriage. The Marriage of the Lamb will come later, on the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord. That is the last trump, when the 144,000 are added to the Bride group. There are two trumpets, two Raptures, but one Marriage of the Lamb after both groups are assembled in Heaven. Agape

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What do you know about "Jacob's pillar stone". Where is it now? Isn't Jesus described as a rock?Wher is the throne to which Jesus will return?The only throne I know of which has something to do with a stone is in England. Could this have a bearing on the lost tribes of Israel.

I believe you will answer these questions as honestly as you can. Agape

My reply

I don't know where "Jacob's pillar stone" is now. Yes, Jesus is our rock.

1Co 10:4 says, "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of THAT SPIRITUAL ROCK THAT FOLLOWED THEM: and THAT ROCK WAS CHRIST."
Deu 32:31 says, "THEIR ROCK IS NOT AS OUR ROCK, even our enemies themselves being judges.

> > Wher is the throne to which Jesus will return? Isa 16:5 says, "in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the TABERNACLE OF DAVID, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness."

Amo 9:11 says, "In that day will I raise up the TABERNACLE OF DAVID that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old."

Act 15:16 says, "After this I WILL RETURN, AND WILL BUILD AGAIN THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up."

I don't think England has anything in particular to do with the 10 lost tribes. Those are scattered all around the world. God knows exactly where they are. British Israelism claims are false. Rev. 3:8,9 says, "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Agape

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Unless Iím not understanding this correctly, the second set (the date) of ď20/02Ē should really be 2/20 or 02/20, making the symmetry not fully realized. Using the same logic, it didnít happen in 1001 either. But itís interesting to look at!

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Re: Do you have another rapture date yet
I don't want to waste your valuable time. I am very different than you in terms of my faith, but the one element we have in common is "looking for the rapture". I have little patients for anything in life because I find life so miserable. I probably have a messed up brain since the day I was born.

Anyway I try to keep an eye on your web site to see if you have any more interesting ideas about when the rapture might occur, but Lately it seems so vague, with no sense of direction (relative to a particular day).

So, do you have a new specific rapture "guess date" in mind yet?

PS. Don't waste much time on me, because I can assure you that I am not worth your trouble. Thanks for your consideration. And I wish you well, --- the enigmatic guy.

My reply

What do you mean, you're not worth it? Everyone is worth it. We were each put on Earth for one reason, to see if we would accept Christ as our own personal Saviour or not. That is our test, and we must not fail it. Everything else is secondary.

The days that seem most likely now are Ascension Day, Iyar 25 or 26 (May 7 or 8), according to whether one uses inclusive reckoning or not, and Pentecost, Sivan 6 or 7 (May 17 or 18, 2002). However get ready and stay ready. The Rapture seems close.

Either day would fit Song of Solomon 2:10-17. It says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, RISE UP, MY LOVE, MY FAIR ONE, AND COME AWAY (yalak, depart, vanish). For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone (i.e., the month of Nisan is over); The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds (lit., singing, i.e., the saints singing the new song, Rev. 5:9) is come, and the voice of the turtle (turtledove, comes in April and leaves in October) is heard in our land; The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. ARISE, MY LOVE, MY FAIR ONE, AND COME AWAY. O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs (lit., the secret of the stairs, i.e., like Jacob's ladder that reached from Earth to Heaven), let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes. My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies. Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains of Bether" (separation, i.e., the mountains suggesting the two Raptures which will be separated by the length of the shortened Tribulation).

Be patient. Patience will be rewarded (Rev. 3:10). Agape

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To: Grandma Carolu Joy, From: Great Grandma Marilyn
> > I met a woman in a chatroom who claims to be a pastor. She said there are 3 raptures. I don't know or claim to know. On any 'rapture' I am careful. I pray to escape the coming horrors, which I believe are beginning even now

Maybe I can help some. I can clearly see 3 Raptures too, although I generally claim that there are two, not including the small one for Moses and Elijah Mid-Trib. It demonstrates that ascension takes place when "COME UP HITHER" is heard. The Pre-Trib Rapture takes place before the first seal is broken. The Pre-Wrath Rapture is between (Rev. 7:14) the breaking of the 6th (Rev. 6:12) and 7th seals (Rev. 8).

(1) PRE-TRIB RAPTURE, FIRST "TRUMP OF GOD," for wise Philadelphian virgins
"FIRST VOICE...as it were of a TRUMPET...said, COME UP HITHER" Rev. 4:1
Mt. 25:1f; Rev. 3:8; I Thess. 4:13-17
(2) MID-TRIB RAPTURE of God's two witnesses, Moses and Elijah "a great VOICE from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven" Rev. 11:12
(3) PRE-WRATH RAPTURE, "LAST TRUMP" OF GOD, foolish Laodicean virgins included "at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed," I Cor. 15:51,52 Mt. 25:1f; Rev. 3:16,19,21; Rev. 7:14

Nu. 10:1-4 says, "the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Make thee TWO TRUMPETS of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly (Heb. 12:23), and for the journeying of the camps. And when they shall blow with them (plural, i.e., both), all (as in I Cor. 15:51,52) the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And if they blow but with ONE TRUMPET, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel (24 elders, 12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of Israel), shall gather themselves unto thee." We see these elders on their thrones in Heaven after the first Rapture (Rev. 4:1-4).

The first-trump group is KEPT FROM (EK, OUT OF) the Tribulation. The last-trump group COME OUT OF (EK) the Tribulation.

Rev. 3:10,11 says of the first group, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will KEEP THEE FROM (EK, OUT OF) the hour of temptation (peirasmos, trial), which shall come upon ALL the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Behold, I come quickly (at the Rapture, Rev. 2:5; 22:20): hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown."

This whole first-trump group is seen in Heaven before the first seal is broken in Rev. 6 to start the Tribulation. Rev. 5:9 says that they "CAME OUT OF (EK) every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation."

> > Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man. Luke 21:36.

Why "pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen" if you don't think an escape is possible? Jesus knows that escape is possible, or he wouldn't have said in Luke 21:34-36, "take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and PRAY ALWAYS, that ye may be ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS (i.e., all the Tribulation) that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

> > 2 Thessalonians 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. KJV... > > the antichrist, the man of sin, is here now behind the scenes but in control. That mysterious passage looks as if we will all be here to see the antichrist, man of sin/lawlessness. Friends, this means there WILL NOT be a pre-tribulation rapture, because this evil man will be responsible for a peace treaty with Israel, which he will break after 3-1/2 years. I pray for a pre-trib rapture, but there sure are scriptures indicating it will NOT be so. I do not like it!

This passage in II Thess. 2 is probably your stumbling stone, and it isn't all your fault. The translators of the KJV didn't bring out clearly all that could be understood from the Greek.

Here is II Thess. 2:1-8 (KJV): "Now we beseech you, brethren (believers), by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him (the Pre-Trib Rapture), That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (day of the Lord in almost all major MSS, also in RSV, ASV, BBE, Darby, and Weymouth; i.e., the Millennium) is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (the millennial Day of the Lord) shall not come, except there come a falling away (APOSTASIA, DEPARTURE; i.e., the Pre-Trib Rapture) FIRST, and that man of sin (False Prophet) be revealed (SECOND), the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God (Mid-Trib). Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth (the Holy Spirit in us, the salt of the earth) that he (the False Prophet) might be revealed IN HIS TIME (THE TRIBULATION). For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let (Old English for hindereth will hinder), until he be taken out of the way" (at the Pre-Trib Rapture). And then (after the Pre-Trib Rapture) shall that Wicked (False Prophet) be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming."

Apostasia means separation and departure, Liddell-Scott-Jones Lexicon of Classical Greek). It is similar to the departure of one party at an apostacion, divorcement. Salt retards the growth of leaven in breadmaking. Because of the Holy Spirit in us, we are holding back the appearance of the Beast and False Prophet. When we are gone, the Beast and False Prophet will probably be revealed when the False Prophet confirms the covenant of Dan. 9:27. Agape

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