P & C 895

Pro and Con 895

Posted 4-24-02

I have mentioned before that small water comets hit our upper atmosphere every minute of every day. God makes sure we have enough water. I used to think that all the vapor in the clouds was evaporated sea water, etc., but there was more to be learned about Earth's water than that. The URLs below have more up to date information on this interesting phenomenon than the article I had saved when Dr. Frank first found the telltale signature of water comets, holes in the upper atmosphere of the Earth.

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by Ray Ward & gary d. goodwin.

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The above article included this paragraph: ...In the early eighties a satellite was sent up to take ultraviolet images of the earth. Dr. Louis Frank has claimed that these images show that there are house sized snowballs hitting the earth every few seconds. He calls them comets because he has postulated that they are wholly composed of water or ice as the Whipple theory of comets goes. What he saw on the images (and you can see them too CLICK HERE) are dark spots in the upper atmosphere of the earth....
The "CLICK HERE" above takes us to

The Original Discovery, by Louis A. Frank and Patrick Huyghe http://smallcomets.physics.uiowa.edu/blackspot.html

The Small Comets FAQ List
...the existence of the small comets has been confirmed by the Polar spacecraft...

Why do the small comets break up and turn into clouds of water vapor?

The small comets are giant, loosely packed "snowballs" with some kind of thin shell, made perhaps of carbon, that holds them together as they travel through interstellar space. But as they approach the electrically charged Earth, the electrostatic stress on these objects causes them to break up at an altitude of about 800 miles above Earth. Rapid electrostatic erosion appears to be the mechanism responsible for stripping the thin protective mantle from the water-snow core of a small comet. By the time the fragments of the comet have descended to about 600 miles, the "snowball" fragments have been vaporized by the Sun's rays....

How much water do the small comets add to the Earth's surface?

At a rate of one 20-to-40 ton comet every three seconds, this influx of small comets into the atmosphere would add about one inch of water to the Earth's surface every 20,000 years or so....

If the small comets are hitting Earth and the Moon, shouldn't they also be impacting the other planets in the solar system?

They do. But few small comets will survive inside the Earth's orbit because they will be destroyed by the Sun's heat. So there will be no small comets for Mercury, and maybe just a few for Venus. But the rest of the planets and their moons do get pelted by the small comets. While Earth gets about 10 million smallcomets a year, Mars receives less than a million and a half, Jupiter gets 16 billion,Saturn gets 4 billion, Uranus gets 260 million, Neptune gets 300 million, and Pluto only about 500 thousand a year. If the ice is not visible on the surface, as is it for many planetary moons, then the water and ice from the small comets probably lies beneath the planet's surface....

small comets are just a part of the meteoric dust and debris that orbits the Sun and falls into the Earth's atmosphere on a daily basis....

How do the new results from NASA's Polar satellite confirm the original Dynamics Explorer images from a decade ago showing "holes" in the atmosphere?

There is no question that the Polar images confirm the previous Dynamics Explorer observations of atmospheric holes. This includes the dimensions of the holes, their frequency of appearance over the sunlit atmosphere, and their east-to-west motion across the sunlit atmosphere. The Polar detections are approximately several thousand per day and, accounting for viewing and image accumulation times, give a global rate in the range of 5 to 20 per minute. The database consists of 50,000 to 100,000 direct detections per month as clusters of darkened pixels. In many cases the holes are detected in consecutive frames, most are moving from east to west, and the effects of the camera platform motion (double vision) are present when the instrument computers do not compensate for this latter effect. The verification of the existence of atmospheric holes is completely secure.

The spectacular small comet streak acquired on Sept. 26, 1996 at UT 2228 and shown on the "front page" of the small comet site is obviously a processed image. What does the original "raw" Earth camera image look like?

Small Comets News - Part 2 (of 5)
Physicist Louis Frank presented the new findings from his instrument on Polar at the spring meeting of American Geophysical Union in Baltimore, Maryland on May 28, 1997. In brief, the trails of light from the small comets have now been detected by both far ultraviolet and visible light cameras aboard Polar and at distances ranging from 600 to 15,000 miles above Earth.

"The Polar results definitively demonstrate that there are objects entering Earth's upper atmosphere that contain a lot of water," says University of Michigan professor Thomas Donahue, one of the world's leading authorities on atmospheric science. "These results certainly vindicate Lou Frank's earlier observations."

But the wealth of discoveries coming from Polar have even surprised Louis Frank. In a first for astronomy, the wide-angle, far-ultraviolet Earth Camera, one of three cameras on Polar's Visible Imaging System (VIS), obtained dramatic images of some small comets disintegrating 5,000-to-15,000 miles above Earth. Frank had not expected to be able to see these objects breaking up at such great distances from Earth.

This spectacular disruption...of a small comet the size of a two-bedroom house took place 5,000 to 15,000 miles above the Atlantic Ocean at 2228 UT on September 26, 1996. A view of Earth at the time of the event has been superposed onto the far-ultraviolet image as a frame of reference. This unusually bright and long-lived trail, which was captured by Earth Camera aboard NASA's Polar spacecraft, ends over Germany.

"Images like this show that we have a large population of objects in Earth's vicinity that have not been detected before," notes Frank.

Part 4
...The Earth camera on Polar detects these atmospheric holes at a rate that suggests Earth is being bombarded by 5-to-30 small comets per minute, approximately the same frequency recorded by the Dynamics Explorer imager....

Part 6
But of all the dramatic results from Polar, the crowning achievement may be the small comet trails seen by a visible light camera aboard the NASA spacecraft. Using their Low-Resolution Visible Imager, Frank and John Sigwarth, a senior researcher at the University of Iowa and co-discoverer of the small comets, managed to obtain some stunning nighttime images of the light emitted by the breakup of water molecules from the small comets.

These images show the glows created when one of the two hydrogen atoms in each of the cometary water molecules is stripped off, forming an oxygen-hydrogen molecule. These fragments glow intensely when illuminated by sunlight, and the trails they produce occur about as frequently, 5-to-20 times per minute, as the atmospheric holes seen in the dayglow images from the ultraviolet camera. "It's a tremendous technical achievement," says Frank, "and shows that the atmospheric holes are due to water coming into Earth's atmosphere."

My reply to the sender of the article that had a link to such interesting information.

Thanks much for the article with its lead-in to the information on the water comets. I have been wanting more on them for years.

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> > Re: New Count Doubles The Number Of Rock In Asteroid Belt.htm

> Now, just maybe a split-apart planet will make more sense. http://www.rense.com/general24/hhh.htm

Thanks for thinking of me, Marilyn. I had not seen this article and I love thinking 'outside the box'.

As I look toward Ascension Day and Pentecost, I have started to think about the 'second Passover' of Num. 9:10,11 as a first rapture possibility -- you may have read Steve Berryman's post on Five Doves http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2002/sberryman415.htm
I disagree with the second rapture mid-Trib and don't know about his putting the events of Noah entering the ark into the spring, but he does demonstrate some good thinking.

David Hill's post a couple days ago entertains the same possibility: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2002/hill418-2.htm
If you think there is particular merit to this date, let me know (probably not or you would have mentioned it by now). At this point I would love to have the opportunity to speak yet once more to asleep and lukewarm believers, family and friends alike, as well as reach out to the lost KNOWING the door is about to open and shut. It seems to be getting late to be buying oil...

Though a bit worn from our oft repeating it, we must be getting REALLY close now to apprehending this mystery of the kingdom of heaven.

Trust you and Ed are well. Praying our LORD of hosts will see of the travail of His soul in both of you and be satisfied, and that He will fully satisfy your hearts SOON with fulness of joy in His unspeakably wondrous Presence. I think of you patiently waiting upon the LORD, Marilyn and Ed, as I ponder Mary who "hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her," that "one thing [which] is needful."

Thanks again for EVERYTHING!!! Striving for masteries

BTW Rick Meyer just put out (4/9/02) an update to e-Sword which I know you will like: Brenton's English Septuagint http://www.e-sword.net/bibles.html

My reply

> > As I look toward Ascension Day and Pentecost, I have started to think about the 'second Passover' of Num. 9:10,11 as a first rapture possibility

Thanks for making me consider this possibility. This year, Iyar 14 is Apr. 26. If the passage in Song of Solomon 2:10-14 is a Rapture passage, it is the time of "firstripe grapes," as when the spies went into the Promised Land (Nu. 13:20). The grapes come on in the latter part of May or the beginning of June, which suggests Pentecost.

Does the Bride go to her Promised Land at the time of the firstripe grapes? Joshua (meaning Yahweh is salvation) led the spies into the land. Jesus from the Hebrew is Joshua. Jesus/Joshua will lead us to Heaven. The spies "went UP and searched the land from the wilderness of Zin (thorn, buckler, coldness) UNTO Rehob (street, breadth, SPACE)."

Song 2:10-14 (LXX) says, "My kinsman answers, and says to me, Rise up, come, my companion, my fair one, my dove. For, behold, the winter is past, the rain is gone, it has departed. The flowers are seen in the land; the time of pruning has arrived; the voice of the turtle-dove has been heard in our land. The fig-tree has put forth its young figs, THE VINES PUT FORTH THE TENDER GRAPE, they yield a smell: arise, come, my companion, my fair one, my dove; yea, come.Thou art my dove, in the shelter of the rock, near the wall: shew me thy face, and cause me to hear thy voice; for thy voice is sweet, and thy countenance is beautiful."

Ascension Day (5-8-02), is close enough to have a chance at being the day of the Rapture, but grapes would have to come on early for it to qualify.

Pentecost still makes more sense to me. The Spirit of Christ came upon the disciples on Pentecost. It could easily be a type of when Christ will come to gather us up to meet him in the air at the Rapture. The clock stopped for Israel on Pentecost in 30 AD. It seems reasonable that the clock will start for Israel on Pentecost in our days. Israel's 70th week of Dan. 9:27 will start after we are caught up. In I Cor 16:8, Paul said, "But I will tarry at Ephesus (i.e., with the young church, Rev. 2:1f) until PENTECOST. Heb 11:40 says, "God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect."

> > David Hill: The point is obvous that God had A FUTURE EVENT in mind when HE INSTITUTED AND SANCIFIED THE SECOND PASSOVER.

Maybe, but the Lord sure emphasized the Nisan 14 Passover more than the Iyar 14 Second Passover. He didn't even speak of the 2nd one until asked in the 2nd year at Sinai.

Nu. 9:1-13 (KJV) says, "the LORD spake unto Moses in the wilderness of Sinai, in the first month of the second year after they were come out of the land of Egypt, saying, Let the children of Israel also keep the passover at HIS (THE LORD'S) APPOINTED SEASON. In the fourteenth day of this month, at even, ye shall keep it in HIS APPOINTED SEASON: according to all the rites of it, and according to all the ceremonies thereof, shall ye keep it...And there were certain men, who were defiled by the dead body of a man, that they could not keep the passover on that day: and they came before Moses and before Aaron on that day: And those men said unto him, We are defiled by the dead body of a man: wherefore are we kept back, that we may not offer an offering of the LORD in HIS APPOINTED SEASON among the children of Israel? And Moses said unto them, Stand still, and I will hear what the LORD will command concerning you. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If any man of you or of your posterity shall be unclean by reason of a dead body, or be in a journey afar off, yet he shall keep the passover unto the LORD. The fourteenth day of the second month at even they shall keep it, and eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs. They shall leave none of it unto the morning, nor break any bone of it: according to all the ordinances of the passover they shall keep it. But the man that is clean, and is not in a journey, and forbeareth to keep the passover, even the same soul shall be cut off from among his people: because he brought not the offering of the LORD in HIS APPOINTED SEASON, that man shall bear his sin."

> > you may have read Steve Berryman's post on Five Doves http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2002/sberryman415.htm I disagree with the second rapture mid-Trib and don't know about his putting the events of Noah entering the ark into the spring, but he does demonstrate some good thinking.

I agree with you on these. The Jewish Sacred Calendar didn't exist until Sinai. For a few years (late 1960s and early 70s), I thought the Rapture of the Tribulation saints was Mid-Trib. It was only when I connected Dan. 11:45 with chapter 12 that I got that straight in my mind. What tripped me up was the mention of Michael in Dan. 12. In my head, I tied that in with Rev. 12, which is Mid-Trib. The funny thing is that I didn't think about Michael being too busy fighting the fallen angels to bother with anything else Mid-Trib. :-)

> > Where I am going in this letter is the relationship between the month/day calendar God established with Noah at the time of the flood and the second (make-up) Passover feast God established with Moses during the exodus.

Since Gen. 1:5 set the lights in the heavens "for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years," I think the Jewish Civil Calendar was set up with Adam. The Sacred Calendar didn't exist until after the Exodus.

We call the Ark Noah's Ark for convenience. Noah built it, but the Ark represented Christ, our Saviour. The day that Christ will be revealed to those on Earth will be Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets that begins the millennial Day of the Lord. The Sign of the Son of Man will be seen in the sky that day. The Pre-Wrath Rapture will take place early on that day too.

With that in mind, read Gen. 8:12,13. It says, "And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more. And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month (Tishri 1), the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah REMOVED THE COVERING OF THE ARK, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry." Doesn't removing the covering of Christ, when the Sign of the Son of Man is seen on the Feast of Trumpets, match the Tishri 1 removing the covering of the Ark? I think the Civil Calendar fits Noah's days and the Sacred Calendar does not.

We're ok. We had one day lately when whatever our grandson had a couple of weeks before started to get us. I had a deep coughing spell. Ed awoke with croup and couldn't breath or make me hear with a squeeky toy the grandson got him for calling me. My granddaughter got him a bike horn to use when in distress. This time, he finally caught his breath. Thank you Lord. We hit it with everything we had that day (CS, echinacea, vit. C, grapefruit seed extract), and haven't had any more symptoms. I agree with my dad, that what you do that first day matters more than what you do later on.

The neurologist thought Ed was in the early stages of Parkinson's Disease, and continued the medication for it even though he doesn't have but a little improvement with it. He is walking better with his cane than without it. The cane seems to suggest he take longer steps, which he can take when he thinks about it. If he doesn't think about it, he shuffles along with tiny steps. Agape

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I just wanted to tell you how interesting I found your site. I have attended church all my life and don't think I have ever heard a sermon on the end of times. All of the recent world events have made me think about the rapture and your site answered many of my questions. Thank you so much. Love in Christ

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I appreciate your taking the time to let me know. God Bless. Agape

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Re: Comet Ikeya-Zhang and Aurora
today's Astronomy Picture of the Day has a very beautiful picture of an aurora and comet Ikeya-Zhang. Thought you would enjoy it. I pray that you are well, and family. In patient watching, and listening for the trump. Love

My reply

Thanks. It's beautiful. The point of the aurora being next to the comet is amazing.

Please look at "The Glory" on APOD (in the archives) then keep it in mind as you read the following verses. THE GLORY: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap020417.html

"Briefly, small droplets of water reflect, refract, and diffract sunlight backwards towards the Sun."

Genesis 1:14,15: "God said, "Let there be LIGHTS in the firmament (expanse of space) of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and LET THEM BE FOR SIGNS and seasons, and for days and years....And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night." Psalms 19:1-6 says, "THE HEAVENS DECLARE THE GLORY OF GOD; And the firmament (expanse of space) shows His handiwork. Day unto day utters speech, And night unto night reveals knowledge. There is no speech nor language Where their voice is not heard. Their line has gone out through all the earth, And their words to the end of the world. In them He has set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, And rejoices like a strong man to run its race. It's rising is from one end of heaven, And its circuit to the other end; And there is nothing hidden from its heat." This brings to mind certain scriptures. Eze. 1:28 says, "As the appearance of the bow (rainbow) that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the BRIGHTNESS ROUND ABOUT(i.e., Saturn's rings). This was the appearance of the LIKENESS OF THE GLORY OF THE LORD." Psa 8:1 "O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth! WHO HAST SET THY GLORY ABOVE THE HEAVENS" (in the third heaven [Saturn], above Mars and Jupiter). In II Cor. 12:2, Paul was "caught up (harpazo) to the third heaven" to demonstrate where we will be "caught up (harpazo)" at the Pre-Trib Rapture (I Thess 4:16).

Psa 148:13 Let them praise the name of the LORD: for his name alone is excellent; HIS GLORY IS ABOVE THE EARTH AND HEAVEN."

Isa 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and HIS GLORY FROM THE RISING OF THE SUN (as the Sun caused the APOD glory)."

Eze 3:12 Then the spirit took me up, and I heard behind me a voice of a great rushing, saying, Blessed be THE GLORY OF THE LORD FROM HIS PLACE (Heaven, John 14:2)." Eze 3:23 Then I arose, and went forth into the plain: and, behold, THE GLORY OF THE LORD stood there, AS THE GLORY WHICH I SAW BY THE RIVER OF CHEBAR (as the rainbow 'round about,' Eze. 1:1,28." Eze 10:18 Then THE GLORY OF THE LORD (like the rainbow, Eze. 1:28) departed from off the threshold of the house, and stood OVER THE CHERUBIMS" (i.e., "over their [the terrestrial planet's] heads above," (Eze. 1:22). The cherubims represent the terrestrial planets. Heaven is surrounded by the glory of the Lord, i.e., Saturn is farther out in space and surrounded by the rainbow like rings of Saturn. Therefore, it looks like Saturn is surrounded by THE GLORY OF THE LORD." On Saturn is "the likeness of a throne (Christ's), as the appearance of a sapphire" (meaning dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear).

The following could be a sign of the upcoming Rapture. As can be seen in the sky Apr. 29,30, 2002, Saturn and Orion (representing Christ as victorious over Satan) begin to "DROP TOWARD EARTH."

I found this out when I read a post on the 5 Doves site. See below. I strongly disagree with some of prophbuff's interpretations. Saturn does not mean Satan. In Hebrew, it is Shabbatai, which means the Sabbath. As the Sabbath is the 7th day, Saturn is the 7th planet. Sabbath means rest. Saturn is the slowest moving planet in our solar system, so Shabbatai fits it perfectly.

According to Josephus, the candlestick represented the 7 planets, including the Sun (Ant. III. VI. 7). In Wars V. V. 5, he said, "Now the seven lamps signified the seven planets; for so many there were springing out of the candlestick. Now, the twelve loaves that were upon the table signified the circle of the zodiac and the year."

Saturn (Heaven) is now in Taurus, which stands for Christ coming in judgment. Aries, the docile Ram, and Taurus, the wild ox (reem), are overlapping, because both represent Christ at different times. The Hebrew name of a star in Taurus is Palilicum, meaning belonging to the judge. The Rapture, which is as the days of Noah (Mt. 24:37) is pictured by the symbol of Taurus, a boat upon the world. At the Rapture, Christ will judge between the wise Philadelphians and the foolish Laodicean virgins. The lukewarm Laodiceans will be spued out of Christ's mouth (i.e., temporarily be cast out of the Body of Christ, Rev. 3:16) and left behind for chastisement (Rev. 3:19) during the shortened Tribulation. The wise will be floated up to Heaven.

In the gospel story told by the constellations, Satan is mainly pictured by Draco, Serpens, Scorpio, Hydra, Lepus the snake, Cetus the sea monster and the head of the roaring Lion held up as a trophy by Orion, the victor. So we would make no mistake, the handle of Orion's sword is the head of a lamb. All of the males pictured represent Christ, from the seed of the virgin to the great king Cepheus.

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Prophbuff (22 Apr)
"Interpretation Of The Sights In The Heavens 4/16 - 5/18" "...Around April 29-30, Saturn (Satan) begins to drop towards the earth, as if cast out of heaven (Rev. 12:7-9). Through May 9th, Orion (Beast/Anti-Christ) also appears to be falling onto the earth, as can be seen in these diagrams:
I interpret the falling to earth of Saturn and Orion to mean the Beast/Anti-Christ/False Prophet have come to the earth. The stunning equilateral triangle of Saturn, Mars, and Venus on May 5th being representative of the Beast's revealing; a trinity of evil if you will.

In addition to the planetary alignment, there will be a conjunction of TWO comets in the constellation of Draco, the Dragon: http://www.arksky.org/cgi-bin/ib/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&f=3&t=85

Comets Ikeya-Zhang and Snyder Murakami will be about 3 degrees apart in Draco on April 30 - May 1, although only Ikeya-Zhang is visible by the naked eye. (Snyder Murakami can only be viewed by telescope). This occurs at the EXACT same time that Saturn and Orion are descending towards the earth! This shows that the result of the coming of the Beast/Anti-Christ to earth will be death and destruction. It is yet another separate warning confirming the story being told by the planetary alignment!" Agape

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Subject: Question About Daniel 9:27
As usual, I have been anxiously awaiting the posting of your latest P & C. Thank you for your work, endurance, example, and love for the Lord. I love Him too and it is an encouragement to see and hear from others who love Him. I know that He will reward you for your work.

I have a question about something in PC 894. You said:

"Dan. 9:27 says, "he (the False Prophet) shall confirm the covenant with MANY for one week (of years): and in the midst of the week he (the False Prophet) shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (when he sits in the temple 'shewing himself that he is God,' II Thess. 2:4), and for the overspreading of abominations (idols) he shall make it (the temple) desolate, even until the consummation (the Day of God's Wrath), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate" (desolator). The UN could be the "many.""

I read somewhere (can't remember if it was here or not) that the leader of Isreal who originally signed the previous peace agreement had a name that meant "many". Is this Yitzhak Rabin? I found the following information at http://www.otn.com/netking/.

"Following the June 1992 elections, Yitzhak Rabin was elected to head the current Israeli government. His premiership was marked by the following landmarks in the peace process:

On September 13, 1993, at the signing of the Israeli-Palestinian Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn, Prime Minister Rabin shook hands with PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat.

If his name means "many" could Daniel 9:27 be referring to a confirmation or extension of this original agreement made by Rabin (MANY??), especially since it says "shall confirm (to verify, make firmer, strengthen, make valid or binding by a formal or legal act, ratify) the covenant with MANY. Saying "the covenant" also makes it sound like it is based on something already in place.

I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

I don't know what Rabin means. The Oslo Accords were signed Sept. 13, 1993. They were NOT CONFIRMED WITH MANY for one week of years. Three and one half years later, the sacrifice and the oblation did not cease, for it has not even started yet. At the end of that week of years (1993 + 7 = 2000), the consummation (kalah, full end, completion, destruction) was not poured out on the desolator, either.

I agree that an existing covenant is to be strengthened. The Oslo Accords need to be strengthened right now, and it may take the UN guarantee that they will keep the peace to bring this strengthening about. Also, I don't think Dan. 9:27 will start to be fulfilled before the Rapture has taken place. Agape

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...We love you. I am praying hard for this spring to be the rapture season. All things point to it. I can't see things wiatingseveral more years. Maybe I am to sick of this world that I am dissappointed the rapture has not already occured. Especially in 1998.It has been tough. I look forwrad in meeting you when we get home,in Our Father's House! Wow! I need more patience. thank you for helpiing to keep me going with your web site. There are times when I would like to go ahead of the rapture,but I would hate to miss it. Love to you,In Jesus, forever

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Thanks much. The Rapture will be so special, I sure don't want to miss it, either. We have need of patience. Heb 10:36 says, "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise." We will be rewarded for our patience. Rev. 3:10 (LITV) says, "Because you kept the Word of My PATIENCE, I also will keep you OUT OF the hour of trial which is going to come on all the habitable world in order to try those dwelling on the earth." Agape

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