P & C 896

Pro and Con 896

Posted 4-26-02

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From: Jim Bramlett - Apr 19, 2002
Could the rapture be in May 2002? What an incredible thought!

Of course, it could be today. But recently I have seen 3-4 e-mails or Web posts giving reasons for a possible May 2002 rapture. Let me add the voice of yet another -- that of Dr. Glen Swanson.

In my e-mail/post of April 15, 2002, I mentioned Dr. Swanson, a retired dentist in California, who I said is convinced that the rapture is extremely near, but I did not say when. Several have asked, and I will clarify herein. At that time, however, I did not have access to his latest work and was not able to communicate it to you. He cannot type and is not on line.

Since that date, I have spoken with Dr. Swanson several times and have received from him in the mail about 27 pages of difficult-to-read, small, hand-written notes. After laboriously wading through them and with the help of mutual friend and outstanding Bible teacher Jerry Cooney of Oregon, who also gave input, I now know enough to summarize a few of his findings, and the "when" as he believes. His conclusions are based on his own meticulous Bible studies over many years. I said earlier that from what I have seen of his complex work involving ancient biblical dating and modern-day correlations, he is probably a mathematical genius.

WARNING # 1. While I greatly respect the man, I cannot guarantee the 100 percent accuracy of Dr. Swanson’s conclusions. I can say that he is an extremely bright, totally committed, Spirit-filled Christian whose extensive studies deserve consideration.

WARNING # 2. What I am about to share will go against the grain of some of you who believe that when Jesus said, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man" (Matthew 24:36), He made a mistake by using the present tense and really meant to use the future tense and say, "No man will ever knoweth." But I am reminded that He also said, "but my Father only" knows, which pins the statement to His hearers at the time, when Jesus was still on the earth, because surely there are now no secrets in the Trinity between the Father and the glorified Son, who are truly One. Also, in context, He seems to be speaking of heaven and earth passing away (v. 35), not other end-time events. In addition, Jesus said, "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee" (Revelation 3:3). He is obviously saying that to the one who watches, He will not come as a thief and that person will know the hour! (Hour -- Greek hora -- Strong’s 5610; various meanings, including, "any definite time, point of time, moment."

(Note: Friends confide in one another. Abraham was called God’s “friend” (Isaiah 41:8; James 2:23). "And the LORD said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do" (Genesis 18:17). Now, because of Jesus’ atonement, we are called “friends” of God. Jesus said, "I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends" (John 15:15).

WARNING # 3. Ancient dating is always controversial, and Dr. Swanson’s dates may disagree with some of your own cherished convictions. For example, from his years of research he is persuaded beyond all doubt that Jesus was crucified in A.D. 30, not 31 or 33 or any other year. But I suggest you hear him out. He can recite a long litany of historical facts and reasons supporting his positions.

I say all this to prepare you. Please hold your criticism. I just want to report to you what Dr. Swanson believes and what he says he has found. Take this information, pray for discernment, and do with it as the Lord may lead. Disagree if you like, but please do not direct your questions or arguments to me. I cannot answer for him, and I acknowledge there may be reasonable arguments against his views. Because Swanson is not on line, the only way for you to get clarification from him on these things is to call him on the telephone. If anyone would like to do that, he gave me the liberty to give out his telephone number, which I will do upon request.

Remember, there are many Scriptures that indicate sincere seekers will know the date or approximate date of His coming. And I have met no one more diligent, hard-working and persistent in his seeking and study than Dr. Glen Swanson. If he is wrong, I believe the Lord will smile, pat him on the head, say "Atta boy, Doc," and give him an "A+" for effort. Also, if he is wrong, pray for him instead of criticizing.

PRESUPPOSITIONS:

Dr. Swanson strongly believes that God is the Master Mathematician, and that everything God does is 100 percent mathematically perfect, precise, consistent, and not random or by accident.

He believes that we should "number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom" (Psalm 90:12). His main methodology is to number days (from creation onward) where he believes is wisdom, as the Word says. His numbering of days comes from Scripture and diligent research of ancient writings.

He also believes that it is a biblical pattern and principle that "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done" (Ecclesiastes 1:9).

CONCLUSIONS:

Here are some of his conclusions. I cannot include them all with all his extensive dating and Bible chronology that goes all the way back to the first day of creation, but I will include some of the major ones.

1. BOTTOM LINE: Dr. Swanson strongly believes that the rapture will be on May 9, 2002, which is the Day of Ascension, the day Jesus was taken up in Acts 1:9.

2. Swanson was recently shocked to discover that ancient dating he had done over a period of many years had one astonishing, common characteristic. He found a pattern that the number of days between many key biblical, historical events typically were multiples of the number 153. You probably know about that amazing number. It is the number of fish in the net that the Holy Spirit curiously recorded in John 21:10, defying human logic, inserting what would otherwise be a trivial number, probably not even counted by the fishermen present. It is widely agreed that 153 represents the elect, the harvest of time, caught in the gospel net. As a thread through the Bible it obviously represents God’s plan for the elect.

3. Swanson says the final 2,000 prophetic (360-day) years (two millennial days) for the church began on the Day of Pentecost in A.D. 30 and ended on July 22, 2001.

4. The "next auspicious day" (he calls it), after July 22, 2001 that is a multiple of 153 is May 9, 2002, Ascension Day. Sushan Purim on February 27, 2002 was also a 153-day multiple, but he did not believe that to be a candidate for the rapture as is Ascension Day, which was the day Jesus was raptured, actually a type of our own, and a day others are taking seriously for other reasons. Interestingly, February 27, 2002 is 70 days from May 9, 2002.

5. May 9 is the 9th day of the 5th month on the Gentile calendar, and on the Jewish calendar, the 9th day of the 5th month is 9 Av, or "Tisha B'Av," a traditional day of woe from many tragic things happening in past Jewish history, including the death that came from the rebellion in the wilderness, keeping the people from the Promised Land. (See http://www.ohr.org.il/special/9av/timeline.htm.) If May 9 is the rapture date, the reverse will happen, and on the 9th day of the 5th month on the Gentile calendar God will this time allow faithful Gentiles (and believing Jews) into the Promised Land, with tragedy and death again soon befalling His still unfaithful Israel, according to prophecy.

6. On the 27th day of the second month, 27 Iyyar, Noah and his family stepped out of the ark into a whole new world. Amazingly, this year, May 9, 2002 falls on 27 Iyyar on the Jewish calendar -- the 27th day of the second month -- that same day!

7. May 9, 2002 is the 42nd day of the counting of the Omer on the Jewish calendar. The number 42 has prophetic symbolism for the Lord’s coming. For example, when Jesus first came, it was after 42 generations from Abraham (Matthew 1:17). Then He will come again in power after the antichrist reigns for 42 months (Revelation 13). Elijah is a type of our rapture, and after his rapture, Elisha was mocked by 42 scoffing youths, who were mauled by a bear after they told Elisha to "go on up, you bald head" (pardon my chuckle) possibly meaning "get yourself raptured like Elijah, you numbskull" (2 Kings 2:11, 23-34). Those 42 mocking youths may represent those who scoff at the rapture today, as if we dare presume to "go on up" like Elijah (Bramlett interpretation!). Also, 42 = 6 X 7, where 6 is the number of man and 7 is the number of completion. The antichrist (6) will be the epitome of man, and will be defeated when God’s plan for history is complete at the 7th Millennium.

8. Interestingly, the very next day after May 9, 2002 is 28 Iyyar, or May 10, which is Jerusalem Day, celebrating the 35th anniversary of Israel’s capture of Jerusalem on June 7, 1967. Actually, because of the Jewish day beginning at sundown and the time zone difference, May 9 and 28 Iyyar largely overlap. Swanson believes war may begin on that day, with Israel attacked, and with a possible simultaneous attack on America.

9. Joshua (a type of Jesus, with the same name, Yeshua) took over and led God's people into the Promised Land after 14,363 days of rebellion and unbelief. Swanson says that Jesus will return and do the same for the Jews on Yom Kippur, October 2, 2006, exactly 14,363 days from the capture of Jerusalem on June 7, 1967, a day we know of as having great prophetic significance. (Note: 14,363 days, or 39.9 prophetic years, may also be a biblical generation.)

10. Swanson says that there are 144 days between the rapture, May 9, 2002, and September 29, 2002, when the two witnesses begin their testimony, and 144 = 8 X 18. He says that Bullinger’s book on Bible numbers has 29 pages on the numbers and multiple numbers of 8 and 13, the former referring to the friends of God and the latter referring to the enemies of God.

11. He also says that there are 347 days from the rapture until April 20, 2003, the date of the resurrection of the antichrist, and 347 is a strange, prime number that can only be divided by itself.

12. He says there were 1,182 days between the date Satan was allowed in the Garden and the date of original sin, and there were also 1,182 days between the beginning of Christ's ministry and His crucifixion, when sin was paid for.

13. In Psalm 106, corresponding to the year 2006 (per J.R. Church), Israel cries out in verse 47: "Save us, O LORD our God, and gather us from among the heathen." (Interestingly, the "numbers section" of the Psalms ends with 106.)

14. In Psalm 107, corresponding to the year 2007, after Messiah comes and rescues them from the heathen, they now cry out: "O give thanks unto the LORD, for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever. Let the redeemed of the LORD say so, whom he hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy…" (vs. 1-2).

SUMMARY. Here is a summary of some of key dates above and a few others from Swanson’s notes:

May 9, 2002: rapture.
May 10, 2002: war may begin.
June 27, 2002: beginning of sacrifices. September 29, 2002: two witnesses begin testimony. April 20, 2003: antichrist’s mortal wound heals. April 23, 2003: abomination of desolation. June 5, 2003: 1st seal. October 2, 2006: Second Coming of Christ. December 15, 2006: creation of Millennial temple. December 16, 2006: dedication of temple.

He has other dates on his charts and says that if one tries to slide the dates, the whole thing will fall apart.

(As do some, Swanson believes that the first half of Daniel’s 70th week was fulfilled by Christ’s earthly ministry when, "in the middle of the seven," He "put an end to sacrifice and offering" (Daniel 9:27); and the second half will be the 3 ˝-year tribulation described in the book of Revelation. But he believes that the seven good years, such as with Joseph, began in 1993 with the Oslo Accords, and the seven, final lean years began with the Intifada in September, 2000.)

RARE PLANETARY ALIGNMENT.

Dr. Swanson does not even mention the rare planetary alignment during the small window of time in which May 9-10 falls. According to the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, "The world hasn't seen anything like the planetary traffic jam that's going to occur the last week of April and the first two weeks in May! … Even more amazing, two very special events will occur during this planetary line-up. On May 10, the planets Mars and Venus will appear to pass so close to one another that, to the naked eye, the Roman God of War and the Roman Goddess of Love will become one…. Oddly enough, more than 2,000 years ago, this same grouping of planets may have caught the attention of the Biblical Magi." See http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/press/alignment_rel.html
http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/grandtour/may18.html

Lampholder Publications comments, "We believe this planetary alignment to have special significance near the end of the Church Age. It is prophetically placed right in the midst of this 7-week period between Passover and Shavuot (Pentecost). The path of the alignment also marks the ancient time-period in the calendar given thousands of years ago to Abraham revealing the Exodus to the Age of Ephraim (the end of the Church Age)." Lampholder also says, "Prophetically (even without any planetary configuration) mid-April to the end of May 2002, is volatile!"

MY PERSONAL TAKE ON ALL THIS.

I have had no visions or other dramatic revelations to confirm this, but I cannot arbitrarily dismiss Dr. Swanson’s dedicated, relentless research of many years and his impassioned, totally confident convictions, and other signs. I am taking it all seriously because of the times in which we live, current events in the Middle East, and many other signs. We shall soon see. Again, if he is wrong, pray for him. If he is right, I’ll see ya in the air!
Agape, Jim - http://www.geocities.com/bramlett2000
http://www.geocities.com/bramlett2000/updates2002/swanson.html

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Re: Dr. Swanson
I was wondering if you have heard about the predictions being made by Dr. Glen Swanson. I have spoken with him on the telephone for a couple of hours over the last two days. He is 100% certain that the rapture is going to occur on May 9 of this year. Have you heard of him or his prediction? If so, does it carry any weight or should he be counted as one of the many false date setters that seem to be so abundant? He seemed to be very well spoken, educated, and most importantly, utterly convinced that he is correct. He says that "you can take it to the bank" that the rapture will occur on May 9. He claims that there is absolutely a ZERO percent chance that he is incorrect and that the Holy Spirit has confirmed this with him. His language is very strong and confident when speaking with him. I have never encountered such confidence with a date setter. Incidentally, I would be happy to give you his phone number if you wish to speak with him. He loves to talk about it with people. I would really value your opinion on this gentleman and his predictions. Thanks very much and may God richly bless you!!

My reply

Yes. I know Dr. Glen Swanson. He shows up at our house periodically to tell me about his latest findings. We differ on things, but he isn't about to listen to me, so most of the time, I just listen to him. He is totally wrapped up in what he believes and is certain that he is right. He uses the 360-day year. I don't....

In Gen 1:14, God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and YEARS." No one has yet taught the Earth to orbit the Sun in 360 days. I don't think it did in the past, either. Since we use a 30-day month for figuring interest, etc., it does not seem strange to me to see a 30-day month indicated in Scripture. When all is over, we may find that the day counts in Revelation will turn out to be exact, and show just where prophecy locks events into the calendar.

The 483 years of Dan. 9:25 were to be figured from the 1st year of Cyrus. In Isa. 44:28, the Lord "saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to JERUSALEM, Thou shalt be built; and to the TEMPLE, Thy foundation shall be laid." I can't see how anyone could choose any other start date but the 1st year of Cyrus.

Martin Anstey, author of "The Romance of Bible Chronology," found an 82-year mistake in the era of the Persian kings. The accepted year of 536 - 82 = 454. The 483 years of Dan. 9:25 -454 + 1 (no zero year) = 30 AD, the year Messiah was "karath," killed. These are ordinary solar years.

Swanson studies a lot. He reads a lot of Jewish writings, even talked with a Rabbi. He was so sure that the Rapture was going to take place on Tabernacles, or the New Year of Trees, then on Shushan Purim. The latter fit his mathematical picture built on multiples of 153. You know something? He is not always right about the date of the Rapture. Neither am I, but he is probably going to be right one of these times. He is a dedicated researcher and leaves no stone unturned. He just has to dig things out on his own.

Concerning his teachings, Jim Bramlett said, "Dr. Swanson strongly believes that the rapture will be on May 9, 2002, which is the Day of Ascension, the day Jesus was taken up in Acts 1:9."

Note: In giving us Swanson's views above, Jim Bramlett said, "7. May 9, 2002 is the 42nd day of the counting of the Omer on the Jewish calendar. The number 42 has prophetic symbolism for the Lord’s coming. For example, when Jesus first came, it was after 42 generations from Abraham (Matthew 1:17)." That puzzles me. Acts 1:3 says, "To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God." It is my understanding that he ascended on that 40th day, not the 42nd.

Ascension Day (May 8 by my count, but there are different ways of counting the 40 days) or Pentecost (May 17 and 18) are possible days for the Rapture.

Note: The head of the Body of Christ ascended on the 40th day. It would make good sense for the rest of the Body of Christ to ascend on the anniversary of Jesus' Ascension Day. However, the Pre-Wrath Rapture seems to be on the Feast of Trumpets that begins the millennial Day of the Lord (Rev. 6:17; 7:9,14; 8:1,2). Instead of all falling on the same day, what if the 3 ascensions are on sequential holidays, Jesus Christ on Ascension Day, the Bride of Christ on Pentecost, and the Tribulation saints on Trumpets?

Because of Song of Solomon 2:10-15, I think Pentecost is the most likely time of the Pre-Trib Rapture. In Israel, grapes come on in the latter part of May or early June.

The LXX says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. For, lo, the winter is past (it's spring), the rain (latter rain of Nisan) is over and gone; The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come (birds is not in the original; this sounds like the 'new song' sung by the saints after the Rapture in Rev. 5:9), and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove; they come in April, leave in October) is heard in our land; The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender GRAPE give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs (places is not in the original, it's the secret of the stairs, like Jacob's ladder), let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender GRAPES."

Here are some URLs where his friend, Jerry Cooney, posted some of Swanson's ideas on the 5 Doves site. They differ from mine, as you will see.

Jerry Cooney (14 Feb) Part 1 - "Rapture on Shushan Purim February 27, 2002, possibly???" http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2002/jerryc214.htm

Jerry Cooney (18 Feb) "Part 2 -- Rapture Possible on Shushan Purim February 27, 2002" http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2002/jerryc218.htm

Jerry Cooney (20 Feb) "Part 3 -- Rapture on Shushan Purim February 27, 2002 ???" http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2002/jerryc220.htm

Jerry Cooney (22 Feb) "Part 4 Rapture Possible on Shushan Purim February 27, 2002" http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2002/jerryc222-1.htm

Jerry Cooney (22 Feb) "Part 5 Rapture Possible on Shushan Purim February 27, 2002" http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2002/jerryc222-2.htm

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My reply

Re: Days of the Son of Man and the Days of Noah
Read you book Revelations 2000 a few years ago. Despite the fact that some of the hoped for predictions have not yet come true, I learned a lot from that book. I read it at the time of a great spiritual revival in my life and since then the Holy Spirit has really worked on/with me. Thanks much for your work. We all see through a glass darkly and no man/woman has it all. God has a way of keeping us humble doesn't He. I think He just wants to keep us diligent and careful and the enemy in the dark as long as it takes to accomplish His will.

I was in the process of writing a letter to the fivedoves website a couple of days ago, subject above, but my main emphasis was to be days/dates/calendars/doors etc linking the days of the flood (Noah and his ark) with the Second (duplicate, make-up)Passover and these then with the rapture of the worthy (bride). Then, it seemed the Holy Spirit took over and I was shown much more. He directed me to the logic behind this feast (besides just a make-up) and how it is related to the bride-bridegroom-rapture-marriage feast.

It's a little long and has a few other things in it as I was writing to the doves, but if you will read it to the end, I think you will find it very interesting. As we are coming upon the time of this make-up Passover feast and so many other signs are happening, please read. I do believe that if the rapture of the bride takes place this year, it is connected to this neglected feast. There is a lot of logic here.

It is attached and I know you said you don't like to open attachments. I use McAfee Anti-virus and so far have avoided all trouble. If you can't bring yourself to open it, then go to the www.fivedoves.com website and scroll down to the April letters. It is listed under the April 15th letters with the above subject and my name.

Thanks again. Continue to Watch and Pray. Enter into His gates with thanksgiving and praise. Steve Berryman Snberryman@aol.com

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

Iyar 14, the second Passover, is April 26, 2002. We will know soon if that is the day of the Rapture or not. The males were required to go up to Jerusalem on Passover, so I assume that those keeping the second Passover went up to Jerusalem too. That sure fits the Rapture to New Jerusalem as well as do the first Passover, Pentecost and Tabernacles.

When it comes to picking a favorite, I pick Pentecost because the grapes of Song of Solomon 2:10-14 would not come on until late May or early June. Also, we are wheat, and the 2 wave loaves made with fine wheat flour at Pentecost, the harvest festival, may depict Jews and Gentiles being caught up at the Rapture.

> > the month/day calendar God established with Noah at the time of the flood

Are you sure God established the month/day calendar with Noah? As for the date that Noah entered the Ark, I think that was Cheshvan 17, since it was before the Exodus. In Gen. 1:5,14, we can see that God gave man ways of measuring days, seasons, and years. In Gen. 2:3, "God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it." Therefore septets were probably counted as weeks right away. Evening, morning, day and night were made plain. Since months were numbered by the time of the Flood, 1656 AH, and the day of the month was known, I think the Jewish Civil Calendar was begun right at the first. I think God rested on Tishri 1, when this kosmos began to operate.

Seth and Enoch are said to have drawn up the Zodiac under the inspiration of God. Originally, it had none of Satan's twisted additions that we now call astrology (which is forbidden). In pictures, the Zodiac tells the story of Jesus Christ from his birth of a virgin (the seed of Virgo) to his being King (Leo). It depicts his two natures (Centaurus, Sagittarius). It tells of his death (Victima, Crux) and resurrection (Capricorn), his walking the ecliptic (as Ophiuchus) as he wrestles with the serpent (Serpens) to keep him from getting a crown (Corona).

There are 12 main signs in the Zodiac. (Each of those 12 have 3 decans to help tell the gospel story.) Thus the 12 divisions of the year were known very early. Adam was 130 years old when Seth was born. Seth was alive all the days of Enoch's life. Adam was alive during all but 57 years of Enoch's life. Since the Bible is consistent, I accept that the "signs" of Gen. 1:14 lead us to the Zodiac and thereby to the year's division into 12 months before the flood of Noah's day. Agape

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From: Rich Pope
Re: It isn't going to happen - ** Low Priority **
What are you going to do when all of this year's predictions fail to materialize? Are you going to set some more dates or hang up your hat?

My reply

I do not predict anything. I am not a prophet. I share what I believe, because I saw a rectangle of light on Jer. 50:2. It said to publish and conceal not. Nothing could shake my faith. I'm in this for the long haul--however long it takes. The Lord has never let us down yet, and he won't.

Yeshua told us to watch. I am watching and looking for our "blessed hope," the Pre-Trib Rapture. Tit 2:11-15 says, "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; LOOKING FOR THAT BLESSED HOPE, AND THE GLORIOUS APPEARING OF THE GREAT GOD AND OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee."

When we see our God and Saviour, he will look like this. In the Preview of the Rapture in Rev. 1, verses 13-19 say, "in the midst of the seven candlesticks (symbolizing the 7 churches) one like unto the Son of man (Yeshua), clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars (the overcomers of the 7 churches): and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword (to cut off the foolish virgins, Mt. 25:1f): and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first (YHVH king of Israel) and the last (YHVH of hosts, the Redeemer): I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter" (i.e., after the Rapture).

Isa. 44:6 (KJV) says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHVH) the King of Israel, AND redeemer the LORD (YHVH) of hosts; I am the first, AND I am the last; and beside me there is no God."

Isa. 44:6 (Stone) says, "Thus said HASHEM (YHVH), King of Israel AND its Redeemer, HASHEM (YHVH), Master of Legions: I am the first (YHVH King of Israel) AND I AM THE LAST (YHVH Master of Legions), and aside from Me there is no God."

II Cor. 5:19 (KJV) says, "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself." Too bad you don't accept him as your Messiah now. He died to pay the penalty for your sins so you could have eternal life. Isa. 53:6 (Stone) says, "HASHEM (YHVH) inflicted upon him the iniquity of us all." Agape

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