P & C 894

Pro and Con 894

Posted 4-29-02

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Re: GRAPES INFO IN ISRAEL I am forwarding some information I received from of friend of mine in Israel regarding grapes. I thought you might be interested.

"First of all, the vegetation ( all of it) happens at slightly different times, depending on the climate of where it is located in Israel.

For example, grapes in the desert and in Tiberias where it is warm all year round begin to come out about two weeks to a month earlier than where we live in the hills surrounding Jerusalem, where we have cold winters.

Right now my grapes have already flowered and are small and green. They are usually ready to eat around Rosh Hashanna - Succot approximately September -October. That's when they are the sweetest and the most luscious!

However, the commerical growers want to get their grapes to the market early so they cover them with plastic and grow them in the warmer places.

I have heard that the green seedless ones are already for sale in the surpermarket, but they are never sweet at this stage, and most people wait a few weeks for the tastier, sweeter ones.

The green-yellow ones with seeds are usually ready in June.

The purple grapes in the market with seeds are usually ripe and sweet in June - July - August.

Grapes are an amazing oxidizer and blood cleanser."
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Also...I have a question:
1. If the total time between Passover and Pentecost is 50 days, and
2. If Jesus Christ was crucified on the 1st dat of Passover, and
3. If Jesus Christ was in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights, and
4. If Jesus Christ was SEEN by many AFTER His resurrection for 40 days, then
5. 40 + 3 = 43
6. So, Ascension day is the 43rd day into the counting of the Omer.
7. That leaves exactly 1 week - 7 days - before Pentecost.

I really do not understand why you and some others put a 10 day gap between Ascension Day and Pentecost. What about the 3 days that Jesus was in the tomb? These three days were a part of the Passover to Pentecost time period. They don't just vanish, do they? Also, if you start counting the Omer after His resurrection, you wind up past Pentecost. Would you please re-explain in detail how and why you are counting the way you do?...G-d bless you.

My reply

> > I have heard that the green seedless ones are already for sale in the surpermarket, but they are never sweet at this stage, and most people wait a few weeks for the tastier, sweeter ones.

> > The green-yellow ones with seeds are usually ready in June.

> > The purple grapes in the market with seeds are usually ripe and sweet in June - July - August.

Many thanks. This helps us understand Song of Sol. 2:10-14. In the LXX, it says, "My kinsman (i.e., Christ) answers, and says to me, RISE UP, COME (i.e., the 'Come up hither,' Rev. 4:1), my companion (Bride of Christ), my fair one, my dove. For, behold, the winter is past (it's spring), the rain is gone (the latter rain of Nisan is over), it has departed.The flowers are seen in the land; THE TIME OF PRUNING has arrived; the voice of the turtle-dove has been heard in our land (i.e., April to October).The fig-tree has put forth its young figs, the vines put forth the tender grape, they yield a smell: ARISE, COME, my companion, my fair one, my dove; yea, come.Thou art my dove, in the shelter of the rock (i.e., in Christ, for 'that Rock was Christ,' I Cor. 10:4), near the wall: shew me thy face, and cause me to hear thy voice; for thy voice is sweet, and thy countenance is beautiful."

"THE TIME OF PRUNING" IS "BEFORE THE REAPING TIME"

Isa 18:4-6 (LXX) says, "thus said the Lord to me, There shall be security in my city (Jerusalem), as the light of noonday heat, and it shall be as a cloud of dew in the day of harvest (the Pre-Trib Rapture). BEFORE THE REAPING TIME, when the flower has been completely formed, and the UNRIPE GRAPE has put forth its flower and blossomed, THEN SHALL HE TAKE AWAY THE LITTLE CLUSTERS WITH PRUNING-HOOKS, and shall take away the small branches, and cut them off (i.e., cut off the foolish Laodicean virgins); And he shall leave them together to the birds of the sky, and to the wild beasts (Beast and False Prophet, Rev. 13) of the earth."

When Moses sent the spies into the promised land, Nu. 13:21,22 (LXX) says, "the days were the days of SPRING, THE FORERUNNERS OF THE GRAPE. AND THEY WENT UP and surveyed the land."

It sounds like the Rapture will be in spring, before the reaping time of the grapes. Song of Sol. 7:6-8 (LXX) says of the Body of Christ, "How beautiful art thou, and how sweet art thou, my love!This is thy greatness in thy delights: thou wast made like a palm tree, and thy breasts to cluster. I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of its high boughs: and NOW SHALL THY BREASTS BE AS CLUSTERS OF THE VINE" (i.e., there are two clusters, two Raptures.

> > If Jesus Christ was in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights, and
4. If Jesus Christ was SEEN by many AFTER His resurrection for 40 days, then
5. 40 + 3 = 43
6. So, Ascension day is the 43rd day into the counting of the Omer.
7. That leaves exactly 1 week - 7 days - before Pentecost.

The Omer is counted from the Feast of Firstfruits, Jesus' Resurrection Day, not from Passover, Crucifixion Day. Jesus ascended on the 40th day after his resurrection. Acts 1:3 (KJV) says, "being seen of them forty days."

Lev. 23:15-17 (LXX) says, "ye shall number to yourselves from the day after the sabbath, from the day on which ye shall offer the sheaf of the heave-offering (the Feast of Firstfruits) seven full weeks (49 days): until the morrow after the last week ye shall number fifty days (Pentecost means 50), and shall bring a NEW meat-offering to the Lord. Ye shall BRING FROM YOUR DWELLING LOAVES, as a heave-offering, two loaves."

> > if you start counting the Omer after His resurrection, you wind up past Pentecost.

If we start counting on Nisan 17, the 50th day is Sivan 7, Pentecost, which is kept on both Sivan 6 and 7.

Lev. 23:22 (LXX) says, "when ye shall REAP THE HARVEST, ye shall not fully reap the remainder of the harvest of your field when thou reapest, and thou shalt not gather that which falls from thy reaping; thou shalt leave it for the poor and the stranger: I am the Lord your God." This prefigures the foolish Laodicean virgins being left behind at the first Rapture. Agape

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Astronomy Picture of the Day has the photograph of the "wedding favor," with the words that Eta Carinae may be about to explode. "About" in astronomical terms can be a long time period to us, but still, it makes me think that our wedding celebration is right around the corner. Many thanks to you, Marilyn, for your steadfast faith and labor in the Lord. It will be "joy unspeakable and full of glory" when we are all in the presence of our precious Saviour and God, the Lord Jesus, and can see each other face to face, and hold each other's hands. "Behold, I come quickly." Love
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http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap020428.html


(My picture of it that's on the Home Page)

Eta Carinae may be about to explode. But no one knows when... Eta Carinae's mass - about 100 times greater than our Sun - makes it an excellent candidate for a full blown supernova. Historical records do show that about 150 years ago Eta Carinae underwent an unusual outburst that made it one of the brightest stars in the southern sky. Eta Carinae, in the Keyhole Nebula, is the only star currently thought to emit natural LASER light....Now clearly visible are two distinct lobes, a hot central region, and strange radial streaks....The streaks remain unexplained....
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Job 5:24-27 (LITV) Job 5:24 "you shall know that your tent ('thy habitation,'KJV) is in peace; and you shall visit your home (i.e., Heaven) and shall miss nothing. And you shall know that your seed will be numerous, and your offspring as the grass of the earth. You shall come to the grave in full vigor, like (symbolic language) a stack of grain comes up (alah, ascends, lifts up) in its season (eth, due season). Consider this. We have searched it out; it is so. Hear it, and know it for yourself."

Visiting "thy habitation" probably refers to our visiting Heaven about 7 years before coming back to Earth with Christ. When a stack of grain ascends sounds like the Pre-Trib Rapture. The due season for wheat loaves to be waved is Pentecost. This could be a clue that we will be "caught up" (I Thess. 4:16,17) on Pentecost. Job 5:26 (LXX) says, "thou shalt come to the grave like ripe corn (grain) reaped in its season, or as a heap of the corn-flour (i.e., wheat flour) collected in proper time." It's proper time is Pentecost.
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New Missile - "Parasite" – The Classical Counter-Terror Weapon
Debka-Net-Weekly, 4-26-02 - Meet "Parasite", a new and deadly addition to Israel’s military arsenal of war against Palestinian terrorists.

...the world’s first smell- and heat-guided missile came into its own in Israel’s three-week Operation Defensive Shield, launched on March 29...

"Parasite" is designed to seek and destroy large quantities of explosives...The weapon delivers the goods even before taking to the air. Capable of sniffing out minute quantities of explosives more than a kilometer (half-mile) away, it is especially effective for locating large explosive devices, artillery shell stockpiles, missile batteries and ammunition trucks....After firing, "Parasite" keeps on transmitting data on the target up until the moment of impact, using its sense of smell to stick close to a moving target and to follow it round sharp turns....

The missile first showed its paces in late January and early February this year, after Palestinian fighters and Iranian-trained Hizballah experts succeeded in destroying two top of the line Merkava-3 tanks in the Gaza Strip, using charges of more than 100 kilos (212 lb). "Parasite" was sent very discreetly into action. When the same Palestinian- Hizballah demolition cells tried blowing up more tanks and other targets, the new missile was waiting. It knocked out the explosive devices and their operators on their way to target....

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1. Zechariah 14:1-3 describes the Gog Magog invasion of Jerusalem on the Day of the Lord, Then the next verse, verse 4, describes the second advent when Jesus touches down on the Mount of Olives. The fact that it is talking about the second advent is confirmed in verse 5 when it mentions Jesus coming with all His saints and verses 6 and 7 refering to the day being "light at evening time." So would you agree with me that there is a seven month gap between verses 3 and 4? Can you think of other prophetic scriptures where there is a sudden shift in time from one verse to another? If readers do not recognize that 7 month gap between these two verses there can be confusion thinking that the invasion of Jerusalem happens at the same time as the second advent.

2. I have been teaching that, as you often say, the false prophet is incarnated by Satan. Go over the scripture again that leads to that conclusion.

3. Over and over in John 6 Jesus makes the statement, "I will raise him up on the last day." I have always thought that the last day can refer to the last "God" day, the final 1000 year millennial reign or possibly it could refer to the last day of the church age that would end with the final rapture on the Day of the Lord. What is your understanding of the term "last day" and how does the ranks of resurrection/ rapture fit in with this statement by Jesus? If the dead from the Bride group are raised before the tribulation and the dead that are apart of the Laodicean-foolish virgin group are raised on the Day of the Lord, how does that fit with what Jesus repeatedly said in this chapter?
Thanks for your insight. Your Brother in Jesus

My reply

> > would you agree with me that there is a seven month gap between verses 3 and 4?

Yes. Eze. 39:11-13 says, "it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. And SEVEN MONTHS shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown THE DAY THAT I SHALL BE GLORIFIED, saith the Lord GOD."

The day that Christ will be glorified is the Second Advent. Mat 25:31: "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory."
Mat 19:28: "Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
Luke 9:26: "whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels."

> > Can you think of other prophetic scriptures where there is a sudden shift in time from one verse to another? Isa 61:2: is the classic verse that includes a gap. Jesus stopped reading at the first comma. It says, "To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn. The acceptable year of the LORD was at the First Advent. The Day of vengeance of our God is the end of the shortened Tribulation.

Dan. 9:26 has gaps in it. It says, "after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself." This was fulfilled in 30 AD.

And "the people (Romans) of the prince that shall come (the False Prophet) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary." This was fulfilled in 70 AD.

Continuing, Dan. 9:16 says, "And the end thereof shall be with a flood." This will be fulfilled when the asteroid of Rev. 8:8 impacts the Mediterranean Sea. At that same time, the asteroid of Rev. 8:10 will wipe out Babylon. The globe will be turned upside down, causing the seas to temporarily go out of control. Isa 30:25 says, "there shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, WHEN THE TOWERS FALL."

Dan. 9:16 ends with "and unto the end of the war desolations are determined." This war is Armageddon, which comes after the Second Advent.

> > the false prophet is incarnated by Satan. Go over the scripture again that leads to that conclusion.

Like Judas Iscariot, the False Prophet is called the son of perdition. Those two are the only ones given this title. 2Th 2:3 says, "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (millennial Day of the Lord) shall not come, except there come a falling away (departure) first, and that man of sin (False Prophet) be revealed, the SON OF PERDITION."
Joh 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the SON OF PERDITION (Judas Iscariot); that the scripture might be fulfilled. Joh 13:27 says, "after the sop SATAN ENTERED INTO HIM. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly."

The "little horn" of Dan. 9:9 is the Satan-possessed False Prophet. He has the attributes of Satan. Verses 10-11 say, "a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. And it (Satan) waxed great, even to the host of heaven (angels); and it (Satan) cast down some of the host (one third of the angels) and of the stars to the ground (Rev. 12:4), and stamped upon them. Yea, he (the Satan-possessed False Prophet) magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away (when the False Prophet sits in the temple "shewing himself that he is God," II Thess. 2:4), and the place (the asteroid Wormwood, Rev. 11) of his (Satan's) sanctuary was cast down."

Dan 8:23-25 says, "when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. And his (the False Prophet's) power shall be mighty, but not by his own power (by Satan's): and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes (Christ); but he shall be broken without hand."

Rev. 13:11 says of the Satan-possessed False Prophet, "I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb (two comings to power), and he spake as a dragon" (Satan, because he is Satan-possessed).

Eze. 28:2-6 says, " Eze 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God."

In this chapter, the False Prophet is addressed as the "prince of Tyrus" and Satan is addressed as the "king of Tyrus (rock, i.e., the asteroid Wormwood)." Eze 28:3-7 says, "Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee: With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches: Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations."

From verse 12 through 19, Satan is addressed as the king of the rock. "Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God" gives it away. Verse 17 says, "I will cast thee to the ground."

This agrees with Rev. 12:7-9. It says, "there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

> > in John 6 Jesus makes the statement, "I will raise him up on the last day."...What is your understanding of the term "last day" and how does the ranks of resurrection/rapture fit in with this statement by Jesus? If the dead from the Bride group are raised before the tribulation and the dead that are apart of the Laodicean-foolish virgin group are raised on the Day of the Lord, how does that fit with what Jesus repeatedly said in this chapter?

The "last day" of John 6 is a day of resurrection, therefore, I think it is the day of the "last trump" of I Cor. 15:51,52. Every one that believes in Christ will be caught up by that time. The Pre-Wrath Rapture is the last rank in the first resurrection (I Cor. 15:23).

Where there is a "last trump," as in I Cor. 15:51,52, there must be a first trump. The first trump is "the trump of God" in I Thess. 4:17.

Here is John 6:39 (KJV) with Strong's numbers. By the same word 450 being used for both "raise" and "again," it suggests the second Rapture. (KJV+) And1161 this5124 is2076 the Father's3962 will2307 which3588 hath sent3992 me3165, that2443 of all3956 which3739 he hath given1325 me3427 I should lose622 nothing3361 1537 846, but235 should raise450 0 it846 up again450 at1722 the last2078 day2250.

#450 is anistemi, from 303 and 2476; to stand up (literal or figurative, transitive or intransitive):--arise, lift up, raise up (again), rise (again), stand up(-right).

I take this last day to be the last day of the shortened Tribulation, which is the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord. At that point, "every one," John 6:40, of the saints will be in Heaven.

All saints are to be called to the general assembly in Heaven that day (Heb. 12:23). Those who went to Heaven in the Pre-Trib Rapture are called from one end of Heaven to the other. Mt. 24:31 says, "he shall send his angels with a great sound of a TRUMPET, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other."

Mark 13:27 includes the Pre-Wrath Rapture group. It says, "then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH to the uttermost part of HEAVEN." Agape

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Re: from feast to feast
is there another time period which extends after 2007 where from pentecost to trumpets it is exactly 2300 days? Which the extra month accounting the 7 months? Thanks

My reply

None that would be within a 40-year generation from 1967 (1967 + 40 = 2007). Here are 3 possibilities.

Pentecost to Trumpets 6 years later
6-2-2006 to 9-17-2012 = 2300 days--not a LY
6-9-2008 to 9-25-2014 = 2300 days--not a LY
6-5-2022 to 9-21-2028 = 2300 days--LY, has 13th month, Adar II

I can't see things going on till 2028 before they confirm the covenant of Dan. 9:27, can you? The situation in Israel is already ripe for a peace convenant. All that is holding them back seems to be the restraining influence of the Holy Spirit in the salt of the Earth. When we are gone, the Holy Spirit will stop restraining the appearance of the False Prophet. Then confirming (or strengthening) the covenant could come to pass. Agape

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Re: Mary Ames web site
The link to Mary Ames web site appears to be a problem. Is there some way of you solving the problem?

By the way, excellent collaboration of facts on your site. I can already hear the word "Well done good and faithful servant" Your efforts will earn you a special crown someday soon. Best regards

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

I can't get Mary Ames' site, either. Maybe she dropped it. I appreciate your letting me know. Agape

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Re: Two witnesses
About the two witnesses stopping the rain for 3 and a half years: I was told that it is impossible for it to not rain for that long as long as ther are oceans on earth? Or does thta verse mean only locally in IsraeL? Thanks

My reply

God is omnipotent. He can do whatever he wants to do. It could rain over the oceans without hitting land too. Since Scripture interprets Scripture, let's look at some verses. One use of the word "ge" (which can mean a country or the whole of the terrene globe, the world) should give us a clue how to take the others.

James 5:17 says, "Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth (ge) by the space of three years and six months."

Rev. 11:6 says, "These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth (ge) with all plagues, as often as they will."

Rev. 6:7,8 says, "when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death (the False Prophet), and Hell (Satan) followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth (ge), to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth (ge).

Here, we can see that "ge" probably refers to the whole globe, which the "fourth part" suggests. Agape

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Re: A wake up call
I just received a call from a dear saint who has a heart for Jesus and knows the seasons. We are always encouraging each other in the Word and in Prayer and both of us know how close we are to the rapture.

She was so excited as early this morning she was awakened to the sound of a horn (shofar?) playing "Here Comes the Bride". As she described what happened it felt like the Glory of the Lord surrounded us, and I can hardly explain what it was like. God has given this saint dreams and visions in the past, but to wake to the sound (loud like the horn of a car) playing "Here Comes the Bride" is awesome. She said it felt like the sound was in her as she heard it. I asked the time and it was after 3am. She approved me sending you email to tell you about it. Agape

My reply

Thanks for sharing this with me. Agape

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Re: Check out APOD: 4-25-02 - Southern Cross in Mauna Loa Skies
http://apod.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap020425.html
I thought this was interesting. Especially the 120 light years away.

My reply

Thanks. Concerning the constellation Crux, the caption says, "A compact constellation of bright stars, the long axis of the cross conveniently points south toward the southern celestial pole. The top of the cross is marked by the lovely pale red star Gamma Crucis, which is in fact a red giant star about 120 light-years distant."

That 120 light-years does remind us of Gen. 6:3. It says, "the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years." In our days, that could be 1887 to 2007. I can't remember for sure, but it seems that it was 1887 when Noah Troyer gave his prophecy concerning man having another 120 years. Agape

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Re: Daniel 9:27 - MANY
I looked up the original word for "many" in Daniel 9:27. It is "rab" which is evidently the root for "Rabin".

My reply

Thanks. That is an interesting tie-in. Agape

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Re: Question About Daniel 9:27
Thank you for responding to my question.

I am not suggesting that these events have already occurred. I was wondering what you thought of the idea that the covenant that will be confirmed might be an extension of the agreement that Rabin made since this would be "confirming (extending?) a covenant with many (Rabin if Rabin means "many"?). In other words, "extending or strengthening the agreement originally made with or by Rabin". I agree that it seems likely the U.N. will be involved somehow, but the MANY may refer to the originator of the covenant that will be strengthened and not to the U.N. (being a conglomeration of MANY nations), or it could refer to both.

I am still interested in finding out what Rabin means. Back to the books/internet.

My reply

I just found out from another incoming e-mail that "many" in Dan. 9:27 is the Hebrew "rab." It seems to be the root word of "Rabin."

I was surprised when I found out what else it can mean. Strong's has 7227 rab, abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality):--(in) abound(-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great(-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, (time)), (do, have) many(-ifold, things, a time), ((ship-))master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply(-tude), officer, often(-times), plenteous, populous, prince, process (of time), suffice(-lent).

Dan. 9:27 (LXX) says, "one week (of years) shall establish the covenant with many: and in the midst of the week (Mid-Trib) my sacrifice and drink-offering shall be taken away (because the False Prophet desecrates the temple): and on the temple shall be the abomination of desolations (an idol); and at the end of time (i.e., the end of this age and the beginning of the millennial Day of the Lord) an end shall be put to the desolation."

Concerning the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord (which is 7 months [Eze. 39:12,13] before the Second Advent) Dan. 7:26 says, "But the judgment shall sit (the Judgment Seat of Christ in Heaven), and they shall take away his (the False Prophet's) dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end (of the Tribulation).

I think the Oslo Accords will be strengthened as the Tribulation begins. The one who will end up being the False Prophet will be revealed when he confirms the Accords. He cannot be revealed until after we are gone. The Holy Spirit in the salt of the Earth restrains his appearing until the Rapture takes place. Salt retards the growth of leaven in bread making, and leaven is a symbol of evil.

The Oslo Accords were signed Sept. 13, 1993. Adding the 7 good years brings us to Sept. 13, 2000. Arafat started the intifada about Sept. 26 that year. Adding the 7 bad years brings us to Sept. 13, 2007. I expect the Day of God's Wrath will be on that day.

The Oslo Accords were ratified (3 days after they were signed) in Israel, on Tishri 1, 5754. Adding the 7 good years brings us to Tishri 1, 5761 (Sept. 30, 2000) right after the intifada started. Adding the 7 bad years brings us to Tishri 1, 5768, which just happens to be Sept. 13, 2007.

Yes, I think the Oslo Accords are the covenant that will be strengthened as the Tribulation begins. Agape

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> > Nothing happens anywhere and at any time outside of the Will of God. He is merely letting us see the consequences of our human wills--all of us! How cruel! And Satan is merely the "left Hand of God." (Isaiah 45:7)

That last sentence is blasphemy! a huge insult to God recorded against the one who said it. And Isa. 45:7 says no such thing.

Isa. 45:5-9 says, "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. 8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it. 9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker!" Agape

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