Pro and Con 909

Posted 5-29-02

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I have enjoyed reading your website over the last several months. Please explain scripturally so I can understand, why you consider the False Prophet to be the Anti-christ and the Beast to be his helper, religious leader. I have always understood it to be the other way around according to several prophecy teachers that I've read over the years. Thanks

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Thanks. I understand what you said. In all my research, I think more authors called the 1st beast of Rev. 13 the Antichrist than called the False Prophet the Antichrist. Nevertheless, I think the 2nd beast of Rev. 13, the one that will be Satan-possessed, will be the final Antichrist.

Zech 5:4 says, "I will bring it ('the curse,' the binary asteroid, which will break into 2 pieces, one larger than the mountain sized one) forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it (the large piece called a 'star' in Rev. 8:10) shall enter into the house of the thief (the False Prophet, who, like Judas, steals what belongs to Christ and his followers), and into the house of him that SWEARETH FALSELY BY MY NAME (the Tribulation Pope who claims infallibility): and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof."

1Jo 2:22 says, "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH THE FATHER AND THE SON." The Pope doesn't deny the Father and the Son, so this liar is the Thief, the False Prophet that steals that which belongs to Christ as Judas did.

The word antichrist is only found in four scriptures in the KJV. However, the final Antichrist is pictured for us under other names. Since he is the 11th horn (king), he is called "another little horn" in Dan. 7:8. The word "another" is a clue we can trace right to Rev. 13:11's "another beast" that comes up, not out of the nations, as the beast out of the sea in Rev. 13:1, but out of the "earth," the land, Israel. This little horn itself has "two horns (two comings to power indwelling man, in Judas Iscariot, who killed himself, and in the False Prophet) like a lamb (Christ has 2 comings, and was killed at the first coming), and he spake as a dragon" (Satan) (Rev. 13:11).

Dan. 7:24 says, "ten kings...shall arise: and ANOTHER shall rise after them; and he (the False Prophet) shall be diverse from the first (the Beast, Rev. 13:2-10), and he (the False Prophet) shall subdue three kings (3 of the 10), And he shall speak great words AGAINST THE MOST HIGH (Christ), and think to change times and laws: and they (the saints) shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time (3.5 years). But the judgment (Judgment Seat of Christ) shall sit (on the Day of God, II Peter 3:12, that begins the millennial Day of the Lord), and they shall take away his dominion." When the False Prophet is deposed from office, Satan will operate on his own as the "eighth" (Rev. 17:10,11). His dominion will be ended after the Second Advent of Christ.

1Jo 2:18 says, "Little children (i.e., the last generation before the False Prophet is deposed from office), it is the last time (hora, day, hour, instant, season): and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time (hora)."

1Jo 4:3 says, "And every SPIRIT that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit (Satan) of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it (Satan) in the world." He is god of this world. 2Co 4:4 says, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." The Pope is not the one that won't confess that Christ has come in the flesh. It is the False Prophet.

2Jo 1:7 says, "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." Therefore, the final Antichrist will not confess that Christ has come in the flesh. He will come from a long line of deceivers that confess not that Christ, the Messiah, has come in the flesh. To me, the shoe fits the unbelieving Jews, from 30 AD to the present. I think that man will be a Jew from the tribe of Dan, an idolater.

Rev 13:11-18 says, "I beheld ANOTHER beast coming up out of the earth (Israel); and he had two horns (2 comings to power) like a lamb (Christ), and he spake as a dragon (Satan). And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast (the Tribulation Pope) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed (the Tribulation Pope whom someone tries to assassinate lives). And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he (the Satan-possessed False Prophet) had power to do in the sight of the beast (Tribulation Pope); saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should MAKE AN IMAGE TO THE BEAST, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the IMAGE OF THE BEAST, that the IMAGE OF THE BEAST should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the IMAGE OF THE BEAST should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" (6,6,6).

The number of a man is 6. Adam was created on the 6th day. This man will say he is God (#7, perfect), but he is just a man, man, man (6,6,6).

Eze. 28:2-9 says, "Son of man, say unto THE PRINCE ('prince that shall come,' Dan. 9:26) of Tyrus (rock--'their rock is not as our Rock [Christ],' Deu 32:31), Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God (#7, perfect), I sit in the seat of God (in the temple, 'shewing himself that he is God,' II Thess. 2:4), in the midst of the seas (the Mediterranean and the Dead Sea); yet thou art a man (#6), and not God (#7), though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel (Daniel was the wisest man; the False Prophet is wiser because he is Satan possessed); there is no secret that they can hide from thee: With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures (like Judas, he steals money, probably the saints' bank accounts, when they won't take the Mark of the Beast): By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches: Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness. They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas. Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but THOU SHALT BE A MAN (6), AND NO GOD (7), in the hand of him that slayeth thee." The False Prophet is 6,6,6, man, man, man, and not God.

Rev. 20:10 calls the 2 beasts of Rev. 13 the Beast and the False Prophet. Both are cast into the Lake of Fire. Who is the the Beast? He is not the False Prophet. The Beast rules during the first 1260 days of the Tribulation. Isa 9:15 says, "The ancient and honourable (the Tribulation Pope), he is the head (6th head of the great red dragon); and THE PROPHET THAT TEACHETH LIES, HE IS THE TAIL." He is both the 7th head and the tail of the great red dragon, because Satan is in him. Like a scorpion that stings with its tail, the tail of the great red dragon can go into flesh.

The Tribulation Pope gets left behind in the Pre-Trib Rapture. When he is put in power "over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations (the UN)....all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb" (Rev. 13:7,8). He will probably be over the United Religions.

During the 1st 1260 days of the Tribulation, Elijah will be withstood by another Jezebel (harlot church of Rev. 17,18), as before. After the "space to repent" of Rev. 2:21,22 is over, the Rapture will take place. Christ said, "I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not (those believers that repent will be caught up in the Rapture; this Jezebel will be left behind). Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery (join) with her into great tribulation (the latter section of the shortened Tribulation), except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her (the harlot church's) children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." The Beast will not pass the searching of the reins and hearts. He will eventually be cast into the Lake of Fire (Rev. 20:10). That means that whoever this man is, he will not be saved. He who searches the reins and hearts knows who this man is. Agape

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Pope holds religious service for thousands of Bulgarian Muslims Pope John Paul II has arrived in Bulgaria on the second leg of a tour which has already seen him give mass in the predominantly Muslim Azerbaijan.

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APOD: July 19, 1999 - NGC 3372: The Great Nebula in Carina
What do you think of this?
Explanation: In one of the brightest parts of the Milky Way lies a nebula where some of the oddest things occur. NGC 3372, known as the Great Nebula in Carina, is home to massive stars and changing nebula. Eta Carina, the most energetic star in the nebula was one of the brightest stars in the sky in the 1830s, but then faded dramatically. The Keyhole Nebula, visible near the center, houses several of the most massive stars known and has also changed its appearance. The Carina Nebula is about 7000 light-years away in the constellation of Carina....Eta Carina might explode in a dramatic supernova within the next thousand years, and has even flared in brightness over just the past two years.

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Eta Carinae is the most unusual star known. It is the only star to emit lazer light. The whole nebula is ever changing. Photos taken at intervals are different. The one in Kerrod's Star Guide is not like this one. The picture on my home page that looks like rolled up lace tied in the middle is one of the really strange ones. APOD ran it several times.

I went to APOD, searched for Eta Carinae, and mailed the page to you. It found about 14, but some are repeats. You can click on each to see them easily.

Since Carina is the keel of the ship Argo, which means the company of travelers, its changes seem to signal action. In the constellation as drawn, the sails are reefed and it is backing into the dock. A representation of Christ's face is on Argo just above the waterline to show us that it represents Noah's Ark, which represented Christ as Saviour. I think action suggests that the Rapture will be soon.

In the older Zodiac drawings, there were two ships. The one that does not show up today had the lively twisted fishtail that represents resurrection on the opposite end of the ship from Christ's face on the present one. It is too bad that they are not both shown today. They showed that there are two Raptures. The twisted lively fishtail is also seen in Capricorn, which depicts Christ's death and resurrection. Agape

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Subject: Check out Dear friends

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The writer believes in 2 Raptures. That's wonderful. I can agree with lots of it, but do differ in places. I will show you some of those below.

Excerpts from "Dear friends," by Sherry
> > In 1993, the Oslo peace accords were signed between the Jews and the Arabs. That was a covenant. That covenant was strengthened on October 23, 1998, during the Wye River Accords. This event took place at the end of 6000 years and 7 years before the Day of Atonement.

I agree to the Oslo Accords being a covenant, but not to the Wye River Accords being 7 years before the Day of Atonement. I don't think the Wye River Accords started the 70th week of Daniel. They are stepping stones to the final agreement, though. When the final covenant will be strengthened, it will be confirmed "with MANY for one week" (Dan. 9:27). The Wye River Accords were not confirmed with many.

> > Luke 21:25 tells us: "There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars." The next point will talk about the sun and the moon, but I want to focus on the stars, or planets. At the exact moment that the covenant was being confirmed (2:34 pm EST), the planet Saturn reached its closest point to the earth and shone more brightly than it had in 20 years. Biblical astronomers believe that Saturn represents Satan. Was this simply a coincidence? Saturn did not reach its closest point to the earth merely on the same day that the agreement was reached, but at the exact same moment.

It probably was like many things that are signposts along the way leading up to a final fulfillment. I don't think Saturn represents Satan. I think it is Christ's abode, the place of his throne. Saturn in Hebrew is Shabbatai, rest, like Shabbat, the Sabbath.

> > Daniel 9:27 says: "He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven'. In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple, he will set up an abomination that causes desolation until the end that is decreed is poured out upon him." This seems pretty clear that there is a temple and daily sacrifices going on inside the temple during the middle of the final 7 years. We are already past the middle of the final 7 years, so how is this Scripture going to be fulfilled?

I don't think we have begun the 7 years, much less passed the mid point.

> > I believe that Revelation 14 shows us that those redeemed from the earth at the first Rapture are offered as FIRSTFRUITS to God. This would indicate that the first Rapture will most likely take place sometime during the 7-day Feast of Unleavened Bread or around the Feast of Pentecost, since these are the only two times when the Israelites were commanded by God to offer FIRSTFRUITS to the Lord.

I agree with "around the Feast of Pentecost." However, we just passed Pentecost. We need to examine other possibilities too. Keep watching Israel to see how things are progressing. Summer is not yet here, and spring still seems most likely. Jesus said, "take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things" (Mark 13:23). All the clues are in the Bible, but just like Israel being reborn in the land in 1948, there may be something we are to watch for that will finally put the whole picture together. There is so much in the Bible that it is hard to put together the whole picture."

> > On the 7th day of the Feast of Tabernacles, the Jews would re-enact a wedding and the Groom was the Creator. They would read the first chapter of Genesis and the last chapter of Deuteronomy - the first and last chapter of their Torah. I believe that the 7th day of the Feast of Tabernacles represents the day that Jesus comes back to the earth and reveals Himself to the Jews as their true and long-awaited Savior and Messiah. Exactly 7 solar years to the day from the confirming of the covenant will be October 23, 2005, the 7th day of the Feast of Tabernacles and I believe the Second Coming of Christ to the earth.

I think Christ will come as the latter rain, Nisan 1, first day of the Jewish Regnal and Sacred Year. Eze. 29:17,21 says, "in the first month, in the first day of the month (Nisan 1)....In that day will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth (the Word, the Logos, Christ) in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD."

Hos. 6:3 says, "the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter (Nisan 1) and former rain (Tishri 1) unto the earth."

> > Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until His wrath has passed by (first Rapture). See, the Lord is coming out of His dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins (this is the day of God’s wrath that will take place right after the first Rapture).

I look for the Day of God's Wrath to end the shortened Tribulation. The Tribulation is the trial before the Judgment Seat of Christ takes place. I think the 2nd Rapture is on the Day of God's wrath.


> > Isaiah 13:4-13 Listen a noise on the mountains, like that of a great multitude! Listen, an uproar among the kingdoms, like nations massing together! The Lord Almighty is mustering an army for war. THEY COME FROM FARAWAY LANDS, FROM THE ENDS OF THE HEAVENS - the Lord and the weapons of His wrath - to destroy the whole country. Wail for the day of the Lord is near; it will come like destruction from the Almighty. Because of this, ALL HANDS WILL GO LIMP, EVERY MAN'S HEART WILL MELT. TERROR WILL SEIZE THEM, pain and anguish will grip them; they will writhe like a woman in labor. They will look aghast at each other, their faces AFLAME. See, the DAY OF THE LORD is coming - a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger - to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it. The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. THE RISING SUN WILL BE DARKENED (solar eclipse on Feast of Trumpets 2005) AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT (lunar eclipse on Feast of Tabernacles 2005). I will punish the world for it's evil, the wicked for their sins.

I would pick the Feast of Trumpets in 2007. What causes the constellations to not show their light? If the solar eclipse is total, the stars come out. I think it probably is smoke that blanks out the Sun, Moon, and constellations, all on one day, the Feast of Trumpets that starts the millennial Day of the Lord. Act 2:19 says, "I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of SMOKE."

> > He will send His angels with a loud trumpet call and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other." (Notice the angels gather the saints FROM THE HEAVENS, NOT THE EARTH. This is because at this time, both Raptures have taken place and the saints are all in Heaven already).

Only the Pre-Trib Rapture has taken place. Mt. 24:31 tells of their being gathered to the general assembly in Heaven (Heb. 12:23).

Mark 13:27 repeats this and adds those of the 2nd Rapture being gathered from Earth. It says, "then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH (the Pre-Wrath Rapture) to the uttermost part of HEAVEN." Agape

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Re: First ripe Grapes?
I had a dream the other night, I don't know what it means if anything and I only remember a small part for some reason. I dreamt that I was looking at some grape vines from a distance and it looked to me like they were flowering. Then suddenly I heard a voice say look closer. So when I walked closer to the vines I noticed that there was green grapes and flowers on the vine the grapes color was mingled with the flowers so that when you looked at them from a distance you didn't notice that there was fruit. Then I woke up. Do you know anyone that understands dreams or do you understand this?

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I know very little about dreams. How the mind can concoct some of the strange things we dream, I don't know. It is a pretty good story teller. Some dreams seem to contain things we have thought about recently. That could be the case with this, or it could be that the Lord is showing you that the grape harvest (the Rapture) is near.

The grapes could tie this dream in with the Rapture so easily, especially since they were "tender grapes." It looks like the one large bunch of grapes the spies brought back to Israel represents the Pre-Trib Rapture. Song of Solomon 2:10-15 mentions grapes and their blossoms. It says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (turtledove) is heard in our land; The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock (in Christ), in the secret places of the stairs (places was not in the original, this is the secret of the stairs, like Jacob's ladder), let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes." Verse 13 (Darby) says, "The fig-tree melloweth her winter figs, And the vines in bloom give forth their fragrance. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away!"

The spies went into the promised land, stayed 40 days and returned with one bunch of grapes that two men carried on a pole slung between them. The time of their return was Av 10, the day both temples were burned. It seems like the earthly temples may have gone up in smoke on the very day the spiritual temple of the Holy Spirit will ascend in clouds.

Since your dream correlates so well with Scripture, it might mean that the Rapture is nigh. Let's just wait and see what happens July 19, 2002. Agape

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This is interesting. In procon 906 you said "Mid-Trib would be 12-29-05". I have always wondered about the verses in Revelation that say that when the two witnesses are killed people will send gifts to each other. It might make even more sense if it happened around Christmas since many people send each other gifts at this time anyway. The verses are:

Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

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Thanks. In Pro and Con 906, I missed by one day. It comes out on Av 10 instead of Av 9. See Pro and Con 907. This would make Mid-Trib one day later, Dec. 30, 2005 (Kislev 29, 5766), the 5th day of Hanukkah. Agape

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Saturn, Source of Measure, by Bernard I. Pietsch

...Of all the planets in the solar system, Saturn is the most rigorous, the most regular and the most stable in its orbit. Its path exhibits the least deviation and is able to absorb the perturbations and disturbances of space more than any other body in the solar system. Saturn is imperturbable.

Also known as Kronos, Saturn is the Time Keeper of the solar family....

As we might suspect, Saturn dramatically demonstrates the pervasiveness of the Golden Proportion in our solar system. Known as Phi, 1.618122977 or .618, the Golden Proportion is the framework origin of all Nature....

Numerically, the Golden Number is expressed as the minutes in Saturn's rotational day, 618....

But our ringed celestial neighbor Saturn is a particularly eloquent model. As a planetary resource it sets the standard of timing for the solar system. From Saturn we will build the system of measures we refer to as the Canon of Measure....

Just how the Canon of Measure was transmitted historically,we cannot say. But we can always recover the Canon by going to the works themselves. The works are the evidence: temples, tombs, monuments and other sacred art forms are the repository of the concepts, and they are available to all....

Sacred measures are hidden only in the sense of being obscured by the filter of phenomenal or local observation. They are founded on that which is beyond mere appearance. Because they are relative to a larger framework than that which is visible here on Earth we sometimes refer to Cannon measures as cosmic values....

Equatorial Earth Measures Derived from the Circumference of Saturn
How are linear units of Earth measure derived from Saturn? Each unit as standard will reflect some connection with Saturn, and because they are commensurate with each other, all equatorial Earth measures can be derived, from just two primary units:

The number of feet to the ancient Canon mile, 5258.16, and The number of Canon miles in the circumference of the Earth as 25,000.
(The number of miles in the Earth's equator at 25,000 is taken from the Sacred Cubit of 25 inches.) (Clarke Spheroid: 24,901.55 miles @ 5280 feet/mile.)

We begin with the primary unit for measuring the Earth—the second of arc at the Equator. We again look to Saturn for the length of this unit. Saturn's daily rotational period is 10 hours 14 minutes and 35 seconds. Expressed decimally it is the number 10.1430555. Multiply this by 10 to arrive at 101.430555. Taken as feet, we now have the number of feet to the second of arc on the Earth's equator. Notice K within the number?...

Using the framework of the 360 circle of 1,296,000 seconds or 21,600 minutes of arc, the number of feet to the second of arc (101.430555) and the number of feet to the Canon mile (5258.16), we can now develop all the Earth Equatorial units:

CIRCUMFERENCE (360 degrees)
25,000 miles
40,000 kilometers
200,000 furlongs
131,454,000 feet
69.4444444 miles
111.111111 kilometers
555.555555 furlongs
365150 feet

ONE MINUTE OF ARC: 6085.833 feet
ONE SECOND OF ARC: 101.430555 feet or 1217.1666 inches

Canon units of measure are not created, they are derived, from Time. A period of time is also used to represent a unit of length, e.g. 5258.16 feet to the mile has the same number as the minutes in the Canon Year: 525816, a synchronicity which encourages the observation—the mile is inextricably linked to Time....

As shown, the figure 101430555 has a number of transformations and applications. As it is the multiplier which changes the number of seconds in the circle into the number of CANON feet on the Equator:

1,296.000 x 1.01430555 = 131,454,000 feet
As a divisor it transforms the Sacred Year into the Lunar Year:

360 / 1.01430555 = 354.9226347 days

As 101.430555 it is the number of feet to the second of arc on the Equator.

As 10.1430555 it is the hours in Saturn's day. This day is the period of our "phenomenal"observation. The Canon day for Saturn is 10.3 hours, or 618 minutes....

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I thought to myself, the hours in a day are given in the New Testament in Roman time in some places. In other places Jewish time is used. Just maybe we have the number of days in a year according to our time in some places in the Bible. In other places, we may have Cosmic Time, such as the 360-day year. Food for thought.

Below is a very interesting part that I copied before I decided to include more of it above. I'm not sure where it should be inserted, so will put it here.
...K is the number 1.01430555. With it, the first measures to be unveiled are those of Time. The ancients understood the intimate and inseparable relationship of Time with all dimensions. (With K we will reveal the legendary "harmony of the spheres." But first some groundwork must be laid.)

For a number of important reasons we adopt the solar year indicated by the base of Cheops Pyramid as the value 365.15 days which is 36,515 inches around the perimeter of the base. This number divided by K produces the Sacred or Cosmic Year of 360 days. The same length of time is involved but the relationship of the year to the circle of 360 is clearly established. From this ancient Sacred Year we derive the following units:

360 Days
525816 Minutes
8763.6 Hours

24.34333 Hours
1460.6 Minutes
87636 Seconds...

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Re: "Canon Measure" & ANCIENT ALPHABET

Mathematical calculations (Canon Measure) & geometry (Sacred Geometry) go hand in hand. Sacred geometry forms the basis for the Hebrew Alphabet. The Hebrew Alphabet is the basis for spoken language. Spoken language is an evolution of organized geometrical (Canon Measure) form. Where do we go from here?

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Thanks. Another interesting web page. The pictures say most of it. Agape

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