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Posted 6-29-02

Was Moon Born From Planet's Crash Into Earth? By Ben Harder
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/08/0820_moonimpact.html
8-20-01 ...Many scientists have thought for years that the moon was formed during the early days of the solar system when another planet collided with Earth, ejecting fragments of rocky material that condensed into Earth's only satellite....

For more than two decades, scientists have sought to determine how large the mysterious intruder planet must have been and exactly how its cataclysmic crash could have helped form the moon. But none of their models have offered a completely satisfying explanation....

Robin Canup, a researcher at Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado, and her colleague have fashioned an improved model using a sophisticated computer-modeling technique. It explains the size, composition, and orbital properties of both Earth and the moon.

"We determined that a Mars-sized impactor would work the best," said Canup. She and co-author Erik Asphaug, a scientist at the University of California at Santa Cruz, proposed their scenario in a study that appeared last week in the scientific journal Nature.

Colossal Impact
"Giant impact" theories explaining the moon's formation were first proposed in the mid-1970s. A decade later, researchers ruled out a Mars-sized object as the source of the impact and began to model larger and larger impacts. The two best models that emerged, however, both had inherent problems.

In one model, the mass of the Earth was right, as was the composition of the moon. But the Earth's rotation rate after the collision was unrealistically fast. An improbable second impact would have been required to slow the Earth's spin.

A second scenario suggested that the impact occurred when Earth was only half formed. That idea better explained the Earth's modern rate of rotation and the moon's orbit, but it required Earth to continue accumulating matter after the impact. That material would have been rich in iron, which composes 30 percent of Earth's mass. But the moon, which contains almost no iron, would have simultaneously absorbed similarly iron-rich rock. The model offers no way to explain the moon's confounding dearth of iron.

Canup and Asphaug have proposed that the impact came from an object that was smaller than in the previous models, but was nonetheless substantial. At one-tenth the mass of the Earth, it was about the size of Mars, the two researchers say.

The collision occurred 4.5 billion years ago, only 50 million years after the solar system formed. The colossal impact must have nearly rent the young Earth apart.

"It didn't break the Earth up, but it came pretty close," Canup said.

"The Earth was distorted into an oblong shape before it gravitationally rebounded" over the course of several hours or a day, she said. Some of the material flung into space settled into orbit and eventually clumped together to form the moon....

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Re: The most absolutely ridiculous thing has occured today! You've probably already heard about it, but just in case you haven't, here it is: The pledge of allegiance is unconstitutional....YBIC
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,56310,00.html

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I agree. I just hope it will be overturned. Agape

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From: Rich
What's the next date your looking towards for a "possible" rapture? I've lost track there have been so many. Are there any dates in 2002 you're focusing on?

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That shows me that you have not looked near the top of my home page lately. I copied the following from it. "AV 9 SEEMS MOST LIKELY FOR RAPTURE
Pro and Con 906, posted 5-24-02

"MAKE THAT AV 10
Pro and Con 907, posted 5-26-02

"A GOOD CLUE SUGGESTING AN AV 10, 5762 (JULY 19, 2002)
RAPTURE DATE - JACOB WENT TO EGYPT IN THE 2ND BAD YEAR.
"For these two years (i.e., 2001 and 2002) hath the famine been in the land (bad years): and yet there are five years (2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007), in the which there shall neither be earing nor harvest. And God sent me before you to preserve you a posterity in the earth, AND to save your lives by A GREAT DELIVERANCE (pleytah, ESCAPE, as in the YLT, i.e., type of THE RAPTURE?)" (Gen 45:6,7).
Pro and Con 912, posted 6-7-02"

Gen. 45:7 (YLT) says, "God sendeth me before you, to place of you a remnant in the land, AND to give life to you by A GREAT ESCAPE."

Gen. 45:6 in the Stone Tanach says, "For this has been TWO of the hunger years in the midst of the land, and THERE ARE YET FIVE YEARS in which there shall be neither plowing nor harvest."

I think the 7 good and 7 bad years started when the Oslo Accords were signed on Sept. 13, 1993. Add the 7 good and 7 bad years and it takes us to Sept. 13, 2007. The Accords were ratified in Israel 3 days later, on Tishri 1, 5754. Adding 7 good and 7 bad years brings us to Tishri 1, 5768, which is Sept. 13, 2007. This seems like God's stamp on this. If this is correct, WE ARE IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE SEVEN BAD YEARS RIGHT NOW. The 2nd Intifada started Sept. 28, 2000. Tishri 1, 5761 began Sept. 30, 2000. Since then, Israel has been experiencing the first two bad years. I think this shows us where we are on God's timeline.

As you know, the Jews fast for the loss of both temples on Av 9. However, Jer. 52:12 (KJV) says, "Now in the FIFTH MONTH, in the TENTH DAY of the month (AV 10), which was the nineteenth year of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, which served the king of Babylon, into Jerusalem, And BURNED THE HOUSE OF THE LORD."

The Stone Tanach says, "In the FIFTH MONTH, on the TENTH of the month...He burned the Temple of HASHEM," so the KJV translation is correct.

The CJB also says, "In the FIFTH MONTH, on the TENTH day."

Josephus said, "it was the TENTH day of the month Lous, [AB,] (or AV) upon which it was formerly burnt by the king of Babylon" (Ant. VI. IV. 5).

I can see the Lord's hand orchestrating things for the good of your soul. I just received this e-mail Monday:

"Hello My Sister in the Lord, While recently going through some papers, I found a note that I had written to a Hebrew-Christian man a few years ago. We were attending the same luncheon and I wrote him a note and asked a question about Pentecost. Somehow, I have mislaid the note; but I do remember that in his reply he said that the Jews believe that the Messiah will appear on the date the two temples were destroyed AV 10. Hmm... I was searching and found this link that I thought might interest you:
http://www.inner.org/times/av/av.htm"

Here is what I found at that URL. My comments are in parentheses.
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The Month of Av
According to Sefer Yetzirah, each month of the Jewish year has a letter of the Hebrew alphabet, a zodiac sign, one of the twelve tribes of Israel, a sense, and a controlling limb of the body that correspond to it.

The Hebrew month of Av (or Menachem-Av, the consoler of Av) is the fifth of the twelve months of the Jewish calendar.

The name Av literally means "father." It derives from the root which means "to will" or "to desire." (Our Father is God and the Father of the Messiah is God.)

It is the month of the "low point" of the Jewish calendar (the 9th of Av, the day of the sin of the spies and the destruction of both the first and second Temples in Jerusalem) as well as the month of the "high point" of the Jewish calender (the 15th of Av--"there are no happier days for Israel than the 15th of Av and Yom HaKippurim" (Mishnah Ta'anit 26:)--the day of finding one's predestined soul-mate). (The spies brought a cluster of grapes to where the Tabernacle, God's dwelling place, was located. The Bride is likened to a cluster of grapes in Song of Sol. 7:7. This pictures the Pre-Trib Rapture. Things happened to Israel as examples for us upon whom the ends of the ages have come, I Cor. 10:11)

This accords with the teaching of our sages that "the Mashiach is born on the 9th of Av." Relative to all other souls of Israel, the soul of Mashiach, who comes to redeem Israel from her state of (spiritual as well as physical) exile, is like a groom to his bride. After his birth on the 9th of Av he reveals himself to his bride and betroths her on the 15th of Av.

Letter: tet.

The letter tet, which resembles a womb, equals 9, corresponding to the 9 months of pregnancy. In the month of Av the 9 months are condensed and concentrated into 9 days, from Rosh Chodesh Av (the yahrtzeit of Aaron the high priest, whose name comes from the word "pregnant") to the 9th of Av, the day, which as mentioned above is the birthday of Mashiach.

Mazal: aryeh (Leo--lion).

The aryeh symbolizes the superrational power of Divine will (the meaning of the name Av, as mentioned above). The initial manifestation of G-d's will to destroy (the Temple) was in truth purely for the sake of reconstructing (the Temple with all of its spiritual meaning and significance for Israel and the entire world) for eternity.

(Believers in the Messiah are the 3rd temple, a spiritual temple. Eph 2:20,22 says we, "are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.")

In the words of our sages (Yalkut Shimoni, Yermiyahu, 259 ): "The lion [Nevudchanetzar, who is referred to in the Bible as a lion--Yermiyahu 4:7] came on the month of the lion [Av] and destroyed the lion [the Temple, which is referred to in the Bible, especially with regard to the alter, as a lion], in order that the lion [G-d, of Whom is said 'the lion roars, who shall not fear'--Amos 3:8] come on the month of the lion and rebuild the lion" (i.e., the temple).

How interesting. Do you know how the sages figured out that the Messiah would come on the 9th of Av? I would love to know. I hope they are right. Maybe our Messiah will come for his Bride on AV 9 or 10, 5762 (July 18 or 19, 2002). If not then, by Tishri 1, 5763. The Bride of Christ is made up of believers, both Jews and Gentiles, that have accepted Yeshua/Jesus as their Saviour/Kinsman Redeemer.

II Cor. 5:19 (KJV) says, "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself." Isa. 44:6 (KJV) says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHVH) the King of Israel, AND his redeemer the LORD (YHVH) of hosts; I am the first ((YHVH) the King of Israel), AND I am the last (his redeemer the LORD (YHVH) of hosts); and beside me there is no God."

The Stone edition 44:6,7 says, "Thus said HASHEM, King of Israel AND its Redeemer, HASHEM, Master of Legions: I am the first (HASHEM, King of Israel) AND I am the last (Redeemer, HASHEM, Master of Legions), and aside from Me there is no God. Whoever will declare that HE (Redeemer, HASHEM, Master of Legions) is like ME (HASHEM, King of Israel), let him proclaim it." HASHEM, King of Israel is God the Father. Redeemer, HASHEM, Master of Legions is the Son of God mentioned in Mt. 22:42 and Prov. 30:4.

Mt. 22:42 says, "What think ye of Christ? whose son is he?" He was God's son, born miraculously of a virgin, "her offspring" in Gen. 3:15 (Stone's version). When he was baptized by the last of the OT prophets, John the Baptist, the Spirit of God came upon Jesus Christ in the shape of a dove. He was not given partial powers, he was given all the powers of God.

Believers get a measure of the Holy Spirit. The Son got all the powers of God. Joh 3:34 (KJV) says, "For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God GIVETH not the Spirit by measure unto him."

Isa. 9:6 (Stone) says, "For a child has been born to us (inheriting his human nature from his mother), A SON HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US (INHERITING HIS DEITY FROM HIS FATHER), and the dominion will rest on his shoulder; the Wondrous Adviser, MIGHTY GOD, ETERNAL FATHER, CALLED HIS (HIS SON'S) NAME SAR-SHALOM [PRINCE OF PEACE]."

Prov 30:4 asks, "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name (YHVH, the Father), and WHAT IS HIS SON'S NAME (Sar-shalom, YHVH Master of Legions, Yeshua, Jesus), if thou canst tell?" Yahwehshua, Yahshua, Y'shua, Joshua, Jesus means Yahweh saves.

Mt. 1:23, (KJV) says that the Son will also be called "Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

Isa. 7:13,14 (Stone) says, ""Hear now, O House of David: Is it not enough for you that you scorn human [prophets], that you scorn even my God? Therefore, my Lord Himself will give you a SIGN: BEHOLD, THE MAIDEN WILL BECOME PREGNANT AND BEAR A SON, AND SHE WILL NAME HIM IMMANUEL." It means God with us.

Why do the unbelieving Jews fast on Av 9, when the temples were burned Av 10? I wonder if it is for the same reason that they keep Passover on Nisan 15, when Lev. 23:5,6 says it is on the 14th and the Feast of Unleavened Bread is on the 15th. In Egypt, the death angel came at midnight on the 14th. If the Jews/Israelites had not put the blood upon their door frames around 6 PM as the 14th began, they would have died at midnight, 6 hours later. That is the only midnight that the 14th has. The following midnight belongs to the 15th.

Is the one-day shift to obscure the fact that Christ, the Lamb of God, is our Passover lamb? He died for us on the Preparation of the Passover (Nisan 13), at the same time that the Passover lambs were being killed at the Temple. He was laid in the tomb about 6 PM, when Nisan 14, the Feast of Passover, began. He was resurrected on Nisan 16, the Feast of Firstfruits. He is the Firstfruit of the Resurrection of the Just.

1Co 5:7 says, "Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even CHRIST OUR PASSOVER is sacrificed for us." This is why YHVH Master of Legions gave Israel the feasts at Sinai in the first place.

Isa. 48:12-18 (Stone) says, "Listen to Me, O Jacob, and Israel, as he was called by Me: I am He; I am the first (YHVH king of Israel), ALSO I am the last (YHVH Master of Legions). Also, My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, and My right hand has measured out the heavens; I call to them and they stand together. Gather together, all of you, and listen, who among them has related these things: HASHEM loves him who does His will...Approach me, hear this: I did not speak in secrecy at first; from the time [the decree] was issued I was there. And now, My Lord, HASHEM/ELOHIM, has sent me with His spirit. THUS SAID HASHEM, YOUR REDEEMER (i.e., the Son), THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL; I AM HASHEM, YOUR GOD, WHO INSTRUCTS YOU FOR [YOUR] BENEFIT, WHO GUIDES YOU IN THE WAY YOU SHOULD FOLLOW. If you had hearkened to MY COMMANDMENTS (THE REDEEMER'S, at Sinai), your peace would [flow] like a river."

It was the Son of God that spoke with Moses face to face. Exo 33:11 says, "THE LORD (YHVH MASTER OF LEGIONS, THE REDEEMER, THE SON OF GOD) SPAKE UNTO MOSES FACE TO FACE, as a man speaketh unto his friend."

John 1:18 says, "NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME; THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, WHICH IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER, HE HATH DECLARED HIM."

God the Father has always been invisible to mankind. The God that appears to man has been the Son of God all along. It was the Son of God that appeared with 2 angels to talk with Abraham just before Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. It will be the Son of God that will appear in the heavens as the SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN (Mt. 24:30; Rev. 6:14f) just before the Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Tribulation saints. It is as the days of Lot. The same day that Lot left Sodom, the fire fell. So shall it be at the end of this age. Babylon will be destroyed along with Gog's army that will be attacking Israel.

I'm praying for you. God has given you the opportunity to receive the ultimate gift. He wants you to be saved. Will you give Him a chance? The Son of God, abiding in a human body to make it possible that his body could die, went through the awful agony of crucifixion so that you would not have to atone for your own sins. He is reaching out to you with his free gift of eternal life. Will you accept it? If you do, tell Him you do. The Redeemer will baptize you with a measure of the Spirit of God. You will be sealed until the day of Redemption, and that seems very close now. Shalom and agape

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Great Babylon Could possibly be New York. Could possibly be Constantinople, called the Golden Horn, built on 7 hills, great sea port. Was the head of the Roman Empire. also one of the Beast of Rev. Could be NATO. Think about it who could make war with the Beast.?

The 7 years Rev. 11:3 Two witnesses Prophesy 1260 days, 11:7 Beast ascendeth out of the bottomless pit kill them.The beast was already at hand when the two witnesses ended their 1260 days.Rev. 13:5 Power was given him to continue 1260 days or 42 months. Could the two 1260 days over lap? ( 1260 days( ) 1260 days)= 2400 days

My reply

Which city that you listed is found in the desert? When Vatican City is moved to Babylon, the harlot church sits on the great red dragon in the "wilderness" (eremos, desert) in Rev. 17:3. It says, "So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness (eremos, desert): and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns." Mat 24:26 says, "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert (eremos); go not forth."

Babylon is in Chaldea. Isa 13:19 says, "Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah." Isa. 51:1-11 speaks of the destruction of Babylon. Verse 4 says, "Thus the slain shall fall in the land of the Chaldeans." How can you remove Babylon from Chaldea?

> > one of the Beast of Rev. Could be NATO

Rev. 13:8 says, "all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Would that fit NATO? No, but it sure would fit the Tribulation Pope, head of United Religions.

> > Could the two 1260 days over lap?

I don't see how. The two witnesses prophesy 1260 days. Then, as he comes to full power, the False Prophet kills them. His reign begins when theirs ends. However, the 2nd 1260-day period, the Great Tribulation, is to be shortened or no flesh would be saved (Mt. 24:20,21). Agape

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Re: Babylon construction
Just got through reading the latest Pro & Con 920 where a reader was claiming Babylon couldn't be built in the time allotted. Marilyn, I live in Las Vegas where they throw up huge palaces in a series of months. Where money and greed are no object, it's possible to build a city that would make New York City look like St. Louis in a matter of less than a year. Add to that the technology that Satan and the fallen angels will provide (possibly the very technology that built the pyramids) and a Babylon that rivaled or even surpassed New York could be built in much less time than anyone would believe. Agape and God bless

My reply

Thanks for putting this in perspective for us. For me, it is simple. If God says it, I believe it. He is omnipotent. He can do anything he chooses, with or without help. In this matter, he will probably work with the nations. With that kind of backing, I have no doubts that Babylon will be built quickly. Just thinking about it on a human level, if each nation built a building at the same time, a city could suddenly appear in the desert.

Those that think New York could be Babylon may not have considered that it will be in the desert. There is no way NY can be a desert. Mt. 24:26 says of the False Prophet, "he is in the desert (eremos, desert)." Rev. 17: 3 (KJV) says, "he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness (eremos, desert, as in LITV, Darby, NAB, WNT): and I SAW A WOMAN SIT (kathemai, sit down; i.e., sit down in the desert) upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns."

Isa 13:19-21 says, "Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah (i.e., with an asteroid). It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there. But wild beasts of the DESERT shall lie there." Agape

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Fw: CHN SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHING - MATTHEW 24
I appreciate your Bible knowledge, and your ability biblically critique the views of others. However, I fail to see why you, and many others in mainstream Christianity are not beginning to see the truth, the real truth. I invite you, ...no, I CHALLENGE YOU to read Brother Sal's view of scripture regarding the End Times events.

...I'm very interested to know why you, and so many other Christians, may be so blind-sided by the truth of events in this day. If I'm wrong, please try to convince me, biblically speaking. God Bless...

Here's a link to the Hashemite Kingdom website. Notice that it's put on by the government of Jordan
http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/hashemites.html
Notice that the front page boldly states that they are the direct descendants of the prophet Muhammad. Not that I believe that he was a prophet, but that's what they say. Check out this page also which says of King Abdullah: "The history of Hashemite leadership in the Arab and Islamic world finds Jordan's current monarch, King Abdullah bin Al-Hussein, at the head of a family which represents over a thousand years of rule in the region, and with a long history as guardian of the Islamic faith and the holy city of al-Quds al-Sharif (or Jerusalem)."

With a statement like the one above, who better to sell to the Islamic world "peace with Israel" than the King of Jordan, the "guardian of the Islamic faith"? Is it any wonder why scripture says that all the world wonders after the beast whose names are not written in the Lamb's Book of Life? Isn't Islam one of the fastest growing religions today? I would say that if King of Jordan (whatever his name may be at that time) steps into the peace process with a solution, the world, even Israel, as well as ALL the Islamic and Arab world will buy it, except of course for the 3 dissenters, whom he would then uproot. Aren't 3 horns arming for war even now? Enjoy and..... May You Realize God's Rich Blessings Today
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by Sal Smario

...Fifty two years has passed since Biblical time and real time surfaced and collided on May 14, 1948. Biblical time and real time have been flowing together at the surface ever since. May 14, 1948, became day 1 of year 1 of the "End Times"....

Now we have learned a few key facts from Daniel. The end time nation that makes up the feet kingdom onto which the stone falls, historically turned out to be the Moslem Empire. We learned that it was founded and ruled by Mohammed, the prophet of Allah, from his Kingdom, called the Hashemite Kingdom.

Then we learned that the Hashemite Kingdom was made up of parts of present day nations that were, in Rome's day, in the territory under it's rule.

But, just as all of the Empires before it, the Moslem Empire ceased to exist. But it's place on the landscape painted by Daniel as "Feet of iron and clay", still exists, and in today's world is occupied by eighteen nations.

In the Prophecy, these ten kings and the little horn king, that grows up among them, meet to decide on peace or war. The peace included resumption of Temple rites. All but three opt for peace. Those three are "uprooted", or "plucked up by the roots", by the little horn character at a later time.

At Sharam el Shief in Egypt, the eighteen modern, ten ancient, Moslem Nations, of the one time Moslem Empire, met with the United States, representing the western position, and Israel, to resolve circumstances and issues just such as those in the prophecy, the central issue being temple mount. The resolution for peace was unanimous except for three!

The contested issues and circumstances, that Daniel painted thousands of years ago, onto the landscape once occupied by the former Moslem Empire, is seeing the light of day in our time on that same landscape!...

Now there are 2 way of arriving at the total of eight that give their power to support the Little Horn in his conquest over those who would destroy the peace. One way is to omit Syria and Iraq, which were uprooted, and count in Southern Turkey and Western Iran. Or, count Syria and Iraq and leave out Turkey and Iran. One of those is the correct way to count them. I am not sure of which it is at present, but I think that if we use a bit of intuitive reasoning we can come close to how it might be....

My reply

Sal Smario wrote about the image in Nebuchadnezzar's dream:
> > The end time nation that makes up the feet kingdom onto which the stone falls, historically turned out to be the Moslem Empire.

I cannot accept that. What Scripture suggests the Moslem Empire for the feet? I ran a Search for the words Moslem and Islam. They are not found in the KJV.

The legs are iron, Rome. One leg represents Imperial Rome. The other leg represents Ecclesiastic Rome. The feet grow out of the legs, Rome. The feet are partly iron (Rome) and partly clay (other nations). Where is Rome in Sal's description of the feet?

The sections of the image are the world empires--Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece and Rome.

Dan. 2:33 says, "his legs of iron (Rome), his feet part of iron (Rome) and part of clay (soil, earth, i.e., other countries of the Earth). The two legs represent two branches of the Roman Empire. When Imperial Rome ceased to be, the Roman power was continued in the Roman Ecclesiastical Empire. The feet seem to be another world empire that grows out of the Roman Ecclesiastical Empire. I think the Pope will head up the UN (United Nations) and UR (United Religions). That fits both the picture of the feet of the image and the Beast of Rev. 13:2-10.

Rev. 17 is written as if the Rapture had just taken place. In v. 14, "they that ARE with him (Christ) are called, and chosen, and faithful." Rev. 17:9-13 says, "The seven heads (of the great red dragon) are seven mountains (world empires), on which the woman (harlot Mystery Religion of Babylon III) sitteth. The empires are (1) Babel, (2) Babylon II, (3) Media-Persia, (4) Greece, (5) Roman Empire, (6) Roman Ecclesiastical Empire, and (7) United Nations and United Religions, headquartered at Babylon III.

The leaders of all these empires carried the title of Pontifex Maximus, from Nimrod at the Tower of Babel to the Pope that heads up the Roman Ecclesiastical Empire today.

Continuing in Rev. 17:9-13, it says, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." The pagan kings of (1) Babel, (2) Babylon II, (3) Media-Persia, (4) Greece and (5) Imperial Rome "are fallen." The one that "is" in power when the Rapture takes place is (6) the Pope, the Pontifex Maximus, high priest, of the Roman Ecclesiastical Empire, the Beast of Rev.13:2-10.

To usurp the title Pontifex Maximus, high priest, is blasphemy, for Christ is our High Priest. Rev. 13:1 says he "saw a beast (the great red dragon) rise up out of the sea (nations, Rev. 17:15), having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and UPON HIS HEADS (all 7, including the False Prophet's) THE NAME OF BLASPHEMY" (Pontifex Maximus). Since Rev. 13:12 says, "he exerciseth all the power of the first beast," I think he will also call himself Pontifex Maximus.

Continuing in Rev. 17:9-13, we read, "And the beast (Satan) that was (in Judas Iscariot), and is not (in man at the Rapture), even he is the eighth (the tail of the great red dragon), and is of the seven (gives them their throne and power), and goeth into perdition (the False Prophet, the 7th head, as he did Judas Iscariot, the only other son of perdition, John 17:12). And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet (at the Rapture); but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (6) Pope. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast" (Pope). Agape

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