Pro and Con 932

Posted 7-27-02

Title of an article: "THE WORLD ENDS ON FEB 1 2019 (POSSIBLY)"

Re: asteroid 2002NT7
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/flash_8.html

7-25-02 - Scientists have detected a giant asteroid heading towards Earth. It could wipe out humanity, but it could miss us...

The world could quite possibly end anyway on Feb 1, 2019.

Astronomers say a huge asteroid is scheduled to crash into the Earth at 11.47am on that day....(the asteroid) called 2002 NT7...

They now believe that it orbits the sun every 837 days, travels in a tilted orbit between Mars and Earth and is between 0.6 and 2.5 miles across....

JULY/AV SIGNS

JULY, 16-22/8-16 Av: 21 SHOEMAKER-LEVY9 COMET PIECES HIT JUPITER. Largest fragment (G) hit July 18 (Av 10).

The 2 temples were burned on Av 10. Jer 52:12,13 says, "in the fifth month (Av), in the tenth day of the month, which was the nineteenth year of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, which served the king of Babylon, into Jerusalem, And burned the house of the LORD." In 70 AD, the fire was set in surrounding buildings on Av 9 and broke into the temple proper on Av 10 (Josephus, Wars. VI. IV. 5).

JULY 2000: BREAKUP OF COMET LINEAR

"A STORY OF COMET DEATH" by David Whitehouse, 5-22-01
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1335986.stm

...Comet Linear came apart in July 2000, just a few days before its closest approach to the Sun....

JULY 17,18, 2002/Av 8,9: COMET 57P/DU TOIT-NEUJMIN- DELPORTE SPLINTERED INTO AT LEAST 19 FRAGMENTS

ASTRONOMERS SEE COMET BREAK-UP - THE FRAGMENTS ARE STRUNG OUT IN SPACE, By David Whitehouse - July 26, 2002

Astronomers in the Czech Republic and Hawaii have seen Comet 57P/du Toit-Neujmin-Delporte splinter into at least 19 fragments.

(A WEEK'S WARNING) Initial observation from the 1.2-metre (3.9-foot) telescope at Mount Palomar in California, US, on 11 July [Thur. Av 2] appeared to show a companion to the comet....

Pictures taken from Mauna Kea in Hawaii with the University of Hawaii 2.2-metre (7.2-ft) telescope on the nights of 17 and 18 July [Wed. Av 8 and Thurs. Av 9] revealed a host of tiny mini-comets strung out in a line trailing behind the parent body....

OTHER COMETS THAT ARE VISIBLE IN 2002

August, Asteroid 2002 NY40 http://www.nearearthobjects.co.uk/news_display.cfm?code=news_intro&itemID=80

C/2001 N2 (LINEAR)
This comet has a perihelion distance of 2.7 AU on August 19, 2002. It is possible that the comet will be visually observable in May-August, 2002 as a 13-14th magnitude object.

C/2001 RX14 (LINEAR)
This comet has a perihelion distance of 2.06 AU on January 18, 2002. The comet is expected to brighten to 13.5 by August 2002 and will continue to brighten to ~10.5 by the end of the year. The Northern Hemisphere is favored.

7P/Pons-Winnecke
This comet has a perihelion distance of 1.26 AU on May 15, 2002. The comet may reach 10-11th magnitude during April-June 2002. The comet will be well-placed in the morning sky for both hemispheres...

22P/Kopff
This comet has a perihelion distance of 1.58 AU on December 12, 2002. The comet may become faintly visible in large telescopes as it heads for solar conjunction in the evening sky during the middle part of 2002.

46P/Wirtanen
This comet has a perihelion distance of 1.06 AU on August 26, 2002. The comet will be very poorly placed in the morning sky with solar elongation of less than 45 degrees during middle part of 2002. The comet may peak at m1 ~ 10.5 in August 2002.

Incoming email

I have a question for you. I have been visiting your site for over a year now and am pretty familiar with why you have chosen the dates that you have chosen for certain things to come to pass. However, what is preventing God from arbitrarily picking the moment of the rapture given that all the necessary prophecies leading up to the rapture have been fulfilled? In other words, what necessitates the idea that there is a time and date for the rapture that must fit into some sort of cosmic jigsaw puzzle. I know that it's soon, but could He not return on a predetermined date that is arbitrarily chosen? If not, what scripture(s) negates this possibility? Your brother in Christ

My reply

...The Lord can do whatever he wants to do on any day he chooses. However, it seems to me that he would have pre-planned the Rapture before this "kosmos," orderly arrangement of things, began.

Rev 3:3 says, "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."

What will we know if we do watch. Turn it around. It would say if therefore thou shalt watch, I will not come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt know what hour I will come upon thee. How will we figure it out if it is not marked by a feast or a pre-shadow event?

Rom 8:9 says, "ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the SPIRIT OF GOD dwell in you. Now if any man have not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his."

On Pentecost, the church was born on Earth when the Spirit of Christ came to indwell believers and bind them into the Body of Christ. Jesus Christ himself is the Head of the Body of Christ. Since the coming of the Spirit of Christ to indwell his church was on Pentecost, why wouldn't his taking the Bride of Christ (the part of the Body of Christ that has enough oil of the Spirit of Christ) to Heaven be on a feast day? God works in an orderly way.

The time seems to have been fixed when the Lord drew up his Blueprint of Time before this "kosmos" began. Other important things had feasts set on the day of the event the feast looked forward to. Why would he eliminate the time for the 1st Rapture (one foot of the Body of Christ) from this program when he has told us enough to be reasonably sure that the 2nd Rapture (the other foot) will be on the Feast of Trumpets?

In Rev. 6:12, the 6th seal is broken. At 6 PM on that last day of this age, Rev. 6:17 tells us that "the great day of his wrath has come." This is the Feast of Trumpets that begins the millennial Day of the Lord. Next, we see the Tribulation saints in Heaven in Rev. 7:14. After that, the 7th seal releases the 7 trumpet judgments on Earth (Rev. 8:1f).

Since the Pre-Wrath Rapture of the great multitude that no man can number (Rev. 7:9) is on Trumpets, there is a chance that the smaller fore-shadowing Pre-Trib Rapture of the Bride of Christ could be on Trumpets too, though any time from Pentecost to Trumpets needs to be considered.

Up to now, there seems to have been an orderly progression. Jesus Christ, the Head of the Body of Christ, ascended as the Firstfruit on the Feast of Firstfruits. He returned bodily that same day. He ascended again bodily on the 40th day after his resurrection. The Spirit of Christ returned 10 days later, on Pentecost. What would constitute an orderly progression as the Firstfruits of the church are caught up to Heaven? Pentecost, also called the Feast of Firstfruits and the Feast of Harvest?

Who makes up the group called THE FIRSTFRUITS?

In Rom 8:23, Paul said, "ourselves also, which have THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THE SPIRIT, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, THE REDEMPTION OF OUR BODY" (i.e., the Rapture).

In James 1:18, James agrees. He said, "Of his own will BEGAT HE US with the word of truth (i.e., the Spirit of Christ), that we should be A KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS of his creatures."

Rev. 14:3,4 says, "no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH...being the FIRSTFRUITS unto God and to the Lamb." This last segment of the firstfruits will be added to the Bride group, because "they are virgins... without fault before the throne of God."

Since the last segment of the group called firstfruits is caught up to Heaven on the Feast of Trumpets, this feast could also be the time of the Pre-Trib Rapture. Let's see what happens on Sept. 7, 2002. Agape

Incoming email

Re: Check out Pretribulation Rapture, Bible Prophecy, Feast of Trumpets
http://www.geocities.com/bibleprophesy/rapturegarden.htm
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Pre Tribulation Rapture Types in Genesis
1. Adam and Eve

In the Garden of Eden, when it came time for the Marriage, Adam's Body was put into a deep sleep, and the The Bride was taken out of the Body.

[Gen 2:18] And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. [Gen 2:19] And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. [Gen 2:20] And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. [Gen 2:21] And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; [Gen 2:22] And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. [Gen 2:23] And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

[Gen 2:24] Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
[Gen 2:25] And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

God made a woman for Adam, as he will make a bride for Christ. (Christ also had his side pierced at his death) God took the rib, as he will take up believers in the rapture.

God creates something new from the rib--the woman, as he makes believers born again incorruptable at the rapture The Body of 10 virgins slumbered and slept, as did Adam, and then a part go up in the rapture.

Note; the marriage for Adam and Eve comes before they were cast out of the garden into tribulation, signifying a pre tribulation rapture.

My reply

...I think God created Adam and Eve on the Eve of Trumpets. In Gen. 1:27, we find "male and female created he them." Then in v. 31, "God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were (hayah, became) the SIXTH DAY."

The 7th day was the Sabbath, when God rested. The new "kosmos," orderly arrangement of things, probably began to operate on Tishri 1, the first day of the Hebrew Civil Year (later to become the Feast of Trumpets). The Sun and Moon had become visible on the 4th day. After that would have been the New Moon, the dark of the Moon. Therefore, the 1st month could begin as soon as the crescent Moon could be seen on Saturday.

Since Eve was taken out of Adam's side on Friday, Elul 29, maybe the Bride of Christ (called the 2nd Adam, 1Co 15:47) will be taken up on Sept. 6, 2002. That will be Elul 29, 5762). The next day will be Saturday, the 7th day, Tishri 1, 5763, a day of rest, the Feast of Trumpets. We will know soon. Agape

Incoming email

Re: Bible Codes, Elijah, Day of the Lord
You've done a lot of study, but missed Jesus' words saying th Elijah in Malachi was John the Baptist....
Reverend Grandma Carolu Joy

My reply

I didn't miss it. I have read every word of Scripture in about 18 versions. However, John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah. If Israel had accepted Yeshua as King, the appearance of John would have counted as Elijah. However, since Yeshua was both God (omniscient) and man, he knew that the Jews would reject him. Therefore, he will send the real Elijah before the Second Advent.

The Midnight Call magazine has an interesting article in the August, 2002 issue, "Benjamin Israel's Last Tribe-- Conclusion," by Arno Froese. I knew that Acts 2:5 said, "there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of EVERY NATION under heaven." However, I had not thought of other verses that indicated that the other 11 tribes had been integrated into the tribe of Judah.

Under the heading "Benjamin Became A Jew," he said, "After David's son Solomon died, Rehoboam became king, and the kingdom was divided between Israel and the tribe of Judah.

"It is significant that we read in 1st Kings 12:20: "...there was none that followed the house of David, but the tribe of Judah only."

"Yet the next verse clearly states: "And when Rehoboam was come to Jerusalem, he assembled all the house of Judah, with the tribe of Benjamin...." How are we to understand this? One verse says: "Judah only" and then the next verse identifies the tribe of Benjamin. The answer is that Benjamin had been integrated into the tribe of Judah to such an extent that whenever Judah was mentioned, Benjamin was part of it."

This integration into the tribe of Judah goes for the supposed 10 lost tribes too. This is why "we only hear of Jews, who are descendants of the tribe of Judah. What's happened to the ten-tribe kingdom of Israel? We need not search far because those ten tribes have been integrated into the tribe of Judah, just as Benjamin was.

"The apostle Paul, who identified himself as being from the tribe of Benjamin, also said that he was an Israelite. And he further stated that he was a Jew.

"When the apostle Peter addressed the Jews in Jerusalem, he clearly identified that all the tribes of Israel are Jews and the Jews constitute Israel. Here are some examples:
"ye men of Israel..." (Acts 2:22).
"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly..." (verse 36).
"Ye men of Israel..." (Acts 3:12).
"Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel" (Acts 4:10).
"The people who dwelt in Jerusalem were Jews, yet Peter, inspired by the Holy Spirit, addressed these Jews as "...all the house of Israel." Agape

Incoming email

Re: Unforgiven sin
I anxiously await every new PC of yours, even though I haven't written for a long time. Can you tell me if a person accepts Christ and asks forgiveness of sin, does that include future sin as well. People I know who still believe in purgatory think one may have to stay a while there to pay for sins which they might not have had a chance to confess. Are there any bible verses that negate this thought? Thank you for your all your insights and may God bless you continued efforts to spread His word.

My reply

I don't think asking forgiveness ahead of a future sin would help. There are very few situations, like sudden death, where one does not have a chance to confess. When we commit sin, we can immediately ask the Lord to forgive us. It isn't safe to wait a minute. We can pray silently. The Lord hears. After all, he dwells within us. He knows our every thought.

The Bible doesn't teach about Purgatory at all. A foolish virgin doesn't go to Purgatory, he/she lives on Earth, and if not ready can be cut off from the Bride of Christ group when Christ comes for his Bride. Luke 12:46 says, "The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (lit., cut him off), and will appoint him his portion (the shortened Tribulation) with the unbelievers." Mt. 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

When a person accepts Christ, all "old sins" (I Peter 1:9) are wiped off the books. They get a fresh start. Peter gave us a list of things we should add to our faith, "that by these ye might be PARTAKERS OF THE DIVINE NATURE" (II Peter 1:4-11). The divine nature is the Spirit of God, which is the Spirit of Christ, or the Holy Spirit. Rom. 8:9 says, "ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the SPIRIT OF GOD dwell in you. Now if any man have not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his." This measure of the Spirit of Christ is our sealing till the day of redemption.

Eph 4:30 says, "grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption" (the Rapture). If we sin, grieve the Holy Spirit, the level of "the divine nature" that is like a fountain of water welling up within us will go down. We won't lose our sealing, but we can lose being filled with the Holy Spirit.

If that is the case, what should we do to be filled with the Holy Spirit again? I John 1:9 tells us. It says, "If we confess our sins (known sins), he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins (known sins), and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (unknown sins).

All the 10 virgins had some oil of the Holy Spirit, but 5 lacked enough oil to see them through until the Lord comes for his Bride. We should read I Peter 1:4-11 and add each of those things "For so an entrance (at the Rapture) shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ." Agape

FROM 5 DOVES SITE

Peg F., "Insights The Messiah in VaYikra (Leviticus)" Email :mrb638@webtv.net, Posted on: July 21st, 2002 http://www.fivedoves.com/latterdayletters/showletter.php?id=3826
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Insights into Messiah in the Torah by Neil Lash

...in the collection of Jewish writings called the Talmud, there is a place(Yoma39b) which explains about a scarlet thread in the Temple that would supernaturally turn white each year to show that God has accepted the Day of Atonement sacrifices. This stopped happening about 40 years before the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70CE. (Just around the time of Yeshua"s death)...

FROM 5 DOVES SITE

"Insights Book4 The Messiah in BeMidbar (Numbers) http://www.fivedoves.com/latterdayletters/showletter.php?id=3827

...Yeshua is the Star (Zohar) that came forth out of Yaakov/Jacob (BeMidbar 24) One rabbinical writing says the following: "In the week that Messiah will be born there will be a bright star- in the east- the "Star of Messiah"." This did happen when Yeshua was born! And now "He" is the star that lights up our lives....

"A Bar Mitzvah Celebration"

http://biblicalisraeltours.com/Bar_Mitzvah_Celebration.htm For a 13 year old Jewish boy growing up in a observant home, the "Bar Mitzvah" celebration serves as a right of passage into the first steps of adulthood. Whereas the Bible is silent on the mentioning of such a celebration, there are strong indications that it is not a recent innovation. By the first century A.D., thirteen for a boy and twelve for a girl were recognized as the ages when they were obliged to fully observe the commandments and to participate in the rituals of the community. Often the Jewish Talmud will only mention thirteen when discussing the age of majority. The Talmud (Mishnah Niddah 5:6) states that when a vow is made by someone thirteen or above, it is a valid vow. It also adds, "At age thirteen one becomes subject to the commandments."

Incoming email, Re: TWELVE TRIBE MENORAH

I decided I wanted a seven candle Menorah to have in my home to remind me, when I looked at it, of God's requirement to have this in the Temple showing that He made the universe. As you have pointed out, the seven combined candlesticks, aligned in a straight line, each represent a planet with Saturn (heaven) being the seventh candlestick.

I went to the net and started searching for this Menorah. What I found were many of the eight candlestick Menorahs used for Hanukkah. These celebrate the miracle of a small amount of oil that would only last one day, lasting eight days. I was not looking for this Menorah but since the history of this Menorah has to do with oil, I am including that history here, it is a quote, then I will get back to the seven candlestick Menorah:

"The Talmud tells us that beginning with the 25th of Kislev, eight days of chanuka are observed, during which no eulogies are delivered, nor is fasting permitted. For when the Greeks entered the Sanctuary, they defiled all the oils, and when the Hasmoneans (the Maccabees) defeated them, they searched and found only one remaining jar of oil with the seal of the Kohen Gadol (the High Priest). Although it contained only enough oil to burn for one day, a miracle occurred, and the oil burned eight days. A year later the Rabbis designated these days as Yomim Tovim (Holidays) on which praise and thanksgiving were to be said. (Tractate Shabbat 21)"

Only pure olive oil is to be used with these Menorahs. If a candle Menorah is used, the first candle is lighted by dipping a swab into olive oil, lighting it and then lighting the first candle. Metal and glass Menorahs may be used all these days of lighting the Menorah. If a pottery Menorah is used, a new one must be used for each day as the last one used is defiled.

This was interesting history but I continued to look for the seven candle Menorah. After much searching, I found several at www.studioshofar.com. These Menorah have a special name, "Twelve Tribes Menorah." That name designates it as the type Menorah God commissioned the tribes to make and put in the moving temple as the tribes wandered in the wilderness.

I ordered one of these Menorah. To me, it reminds me of God's creation as He intended it to, and is also a statement of my support for Israel as she goes through these present day troubles. I just ordered it so don't have it yet. I believe anyone coming in my home will ask me why I have it if they recognize it as a Jewish item. I think most people will recognize it as such. That's an opportunity to speak of God's creation as represented in the Menorah. I'm sure there will be consternation and surprise when I say, "..and one astute Bible scholar has Biblical documentation that the seventh candlestick, representing Saturn, is actually heaven." That statement will probably get me tagged to go to the looney bin. Your web readers should buy your book, "Heaven Found: A Butter & Honey Star." ($5.50 plus $1.63 shipping US, a bargain) That book is a testament to your Biblical knowledge and deductive reasoning - an amazing book.

(I hope you don't hit me with your statue bias. As I don't worship statues, I don't intend to worship the Menorah.) In love

My reply

Thanks for your interesting information and your kind words.

I'm glad to know about the designation, the "Twelve Tribes Menorah." I keep calling it the candlestick, because the word Menorah seems to be used most in connection with Hanukkah. Agape

LOCUST SWARM INVADES SOUTHERN ITALY

http://www.jvim.com/cgi-bin/update.cgi
Reuters 7-18-02 A huge swarm of locusts has devoured grain and vegetable crops in a farming area of southern Italy and pinned many residents in their homes.

GRASSHOPPER INFESTATION PLAGUES WEST (USA)

http://www.jvim.com/cgi-bin/update.cgi
7-18-02 Washington Post - "Their numbers swelled by the drought, grasshoppers and MORMON CRICKETS are ravaging crops and pastures across the West in what could be the biggest such infestation since World War II.

My Note

If the Mormon crickets are worse than they were in 1955, when we ran into them on the way to California, I pity the people that live there. In Blythe, Arizona, they had huge piles of them that they had swept up at that time. In our motel room, when we woke up, they were flying and hitting us, even our faces. It was creepy. We gassed up the truck and car and got out of there as fast as we could.

"GOD'S TIMELINE" AMAZING FACTS AND COINCIDENCES (OR ARE THEY?)"

by Phil Rogers

...1st Thess. 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief....

(1 Tim 6:14 KJV) "That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:"
(2 Tim 1:10 KJV) "But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:"
(2 Tim 4:1 KJV) "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;"
(2 Tim 4:8 KJV) "Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing."
(Titus 2:13 KJV) "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;"
(1 Pet 1:7 KJV) "That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:")...

"after 2 days" (2,000 years) (Hosea 6:2; John 4:42-43)...

4. The-time of Jacob's trouble; consecutive seven-year periods
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Phil Rogers
"Can you see it now?"
Posted on 5 Doves site: July 20th, 2002
http://www.fivedoves.com/latterdayletters/showletter.php?id=3804
(Re: Jacob worked for Laban 21 years, 7 for Leah, 7 for Rachel and 7 for his herds)

...Can anyone now see the scriptural"type" and or foreshadowing of the "Time of Jacob’s Trouble" that is depicted in Genesis 29 through 31?...
Did Laban have ANY intention of keeping his agreement or 7 year covenant with Jacob when he made it originally? You judge!
(Gen 29:26 KJV) And Laban said, It must not be so done in our country, to give the younger before the firstborn.

Laban KNEW this BEFORE making this covenant of 7 years with Jacob! He deluded Jacob! He betrayed and DECIEVED Jacob from the beginning. IN fact, Laban throughout the whole 7 year agreement/ covenant NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION to honor his word and the agreement he made with Jacob/ Israel.

“IF” we are in fact living in the last generation that will see the physical return of Christ, and this account in Genesis is a foreshadowing of things to come in our time, then CAREFULLY consider the words and intentions of Arafat. Especially in regards to the Oslo PEACE Accords that were signed in 1993 and Israel did not get the PEACE that the Accords were signed for "7" years later (2000)....

...following these 2nd 7 years will be a 7 year period in which Jacob is receiving his inheritance from God. This would correspond to the Fall Feasts being fulfilled by Jesus Christ and His return in 2007. The next 7 years will be for the inheritance of Israel being meted out and the "burning of weapons" and building the Millennial Temple. The "Time of Jacob’s Trouble" will have been completed.
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Phil Rogers (24 July 2002)
"For John Tng (and all the Doves)"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2002/philr724.htm
Isn't it amazimg that this is found in Amos 3:7 !! For a better look at this, is it erferring to the 3 sets of 7 years of Jacob's Trouble?

My reply

I can't see how the time of Jacob's trouble can be more than one day, let alone consecutive 7-year periods.

Dan 11:43-45; 12:1, "tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him (the False Prophet): therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

"And at that time (when the False Prophet comes to his end) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be A TIME OF TROUBLE, SUCH AS NEVER WAS SINCE THERE WAS A NATION EVEN TO THAT SAME TIME: AND AT THAT TIME THY PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED, EVERY ONE THAT SHALL BE FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK. Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake."

Since no day before that can apply, how can that time of trouble me more than one day?

Jer 30:7 says, "Alas! for THAT DAY (ONE DAY) is great, so that NONE IS LIKE IT: it is even THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE; but he shall be saved out of it."

Job 38:22,23 shows that the time of trouble is one day. It says, "hast thou seen the treasures of the hail, Which I have reserved against THE TIME OF TROUBLE, AGAINST THE DAY OF BATTLE AND WAR?

Psa 27:5 is talking about one day, the day of the Pre-Wrath Rapture, which is on the same day that Gog's army attacks Israel. It says, "in THE TIME OF TROUBLE he shall hide me in his pavilion: in THE SECRET OF HIS TABERNACLE shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock" (Heaven). The cubed Holy of Holies represented Heaven, a sphere that would fit inside a square box, since all dimensions are equal. The Holy Place was 2 cubes, which represented the 1st 2 heavens, Mars and Jupiter. Saturn is the 3rd Heaven. Paul was caught up to it in II Cor. 12:2. In THE TIME OF TROUBLE, the Pre-Wrath Rapture will take place. That is one day, not even one 7-year period, much less multiple 7-year periods.

Psa 37:38,39 says, "the transgressors shall be destroyed together: THE END OF THE WICKED (the False Prophet) shall be cut off. But the salvation of the righteous (i.e., at the Pre-Wrath Rapture) is of the LORD: he is their strength in THE TIME OF TROUBLE."

Eze 7:7 says, "The morning is come unto thee (the morning of one single day), O thou that dwellest in the land: THE TIME IS COME, THE DAY OF TROUBLE IS NEAR." The asteroids of Rev. 8:8,10 impact Earth at noon (Zeph. 2:4,5).

> > following these 2nd 7 years will be a 7 year period in which Jacob is receiving his inheritance from God. This would correspond to the Fall Feasts being fulfilled by Jesus Christ and His return in 2007. The next 7 years will be for the inheritance of Israel being meted out and the "burning of weapons" and building the Millennial Temple. The "Time of Jacob's Trouble" will have been completed.

I think Tishri 1, 5768, the Feast of Trumpets (Sept. 13, 2007) will be the Day of God's Wrath, which is the Day of Jacob's Trouble. I believe that during the 7 years following the Second Advent on Nisan 1, 5768 (April 6, 2008), they will burn the weapons (Eze. 39:10).

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