Pro and Con 950

Posted 9-19-02

Incoming email,Re:"Out of the Mouths of Babes"???

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2002/countrymouse918.htm
THIS IS AN AWESOME STORY!!!
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Countrymouse (18 Sep 2002)

All right, now this is getting downright-----well, I don't know what to call it.

For some weeks, my youngest child, a little boy named Paul Joseph, (we call him Joseph), who is only 4, has been coming out at the oddest of times with the oddest of statements. He's always seemed precociously "aware"; I remember even when he was a baby and I was nursing him I'd get a strange feeling because he'd fix his little eyes on me with such a knowing look----like he was a wise little old man encased in a baby's body----that I almost felt like he understood far more of what was happening to him than a "normal" baby (and I have 2 older boys who were never like this). Anyway, at odd moments in the past few weeks, such as when I'm driving the boys somewhere in the car, out of the clear blue when we had NOT been discussing the subject at all, Joseph in his car seat would suddenly take his little thumb out of his mouth and solemnly tell me in his baby voice, "Mommy! We all go up to heaven soon!" I have NOT discussed the info I've been reading here with my children at all---the oldest is 9 and the other 7, and although they know the Lord is coming back and the two older are saved they would be frightened at the idea because they still don't quite understand (they were very upset when my husband was reading to them in a children's Bible storybook a while back about the Last Days and they realized that all they leave behind would be destroyed; being children, they were very upset that their house and all their toys would be destroyed----they were too young for us to make them understand that Heaven will be much better than anything they leave behind! The youngest, however, didn't really 'get' the story at all, and was neither upset nor excited; in fact, he didn't seem to be really listening and was playing while his Daddy read the stories.)

Anyway, Joseph made this announcement to us more than once, and always at odd times when we hadn't even been discussing anything even remotely related to the idea of the Rapture or of Jesus' return. My husband, when I told him, said it was just because he had been listening closer than we thought a few weeks ago when he read to them about the Second Coming, and was just thinking of that, but still I wasn't so sure.

Well, tonight (9/17) was the capper---and I don't know WHAT to think. As I was putting the boys to bed, singing them their lullabies and kissing them goodnight, without warning Joseph suddenly put his little arms around my neck and said, "Mommy?" I said what? He took a big breath and said, "In four days, we be going up to Heaven."

I said, "What?!?" And he repeated it----"We be going up to Heaven in four days!"

What do you make of that?

My reply

Thanks for making sure I see this.

The truth can sure flow out of the mouths of babes. Four days from Sept. 17, is Saturday, the Feast of Tabernacles (Tishri 15 on the Jewish Calendar. I sure hope he's right. However, if not, I will still be waiting patiently. Surely it won't be long. The Rapture is as the days of Noah. He went into the Ark and the Lord shut him in on Cheshvan 17 (Sept. 23, 2002). There is another date to watch for, Cheshvan 20 (Sept. 26, 2002), but more about that later.

Psa. 8:2 (LXX, Septuagint, Brenton) says, "Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou perfected praise, because of thine enemies; that thou mightest put down the enemy and avenger.

Mt. 21:15 (KJV) quotes Psa. 8:2 in the LXX. It says, "And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he (Jesus) did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the Son of David; they were sore displeased, And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?

Tabernacle means dwelling place and can represent God's dwelling place, Heaven. The Feast of Tabernacles is when the harvest is in, and the Israelites dwelt in booths. It was one of the 3 feasts when all Israelite males were to go up to Jerusalem, Unleavened Bread, Pentecost and Tabernacles. Christ fulfilled Unleavened Bread. The Spirit of Christ (Rom. 8:9) fulfilled Pentecost. Tabernacles has had no fulfillment that I know of.

Some think Jesus was born on Tabernacles because John 1:14 says, "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt (skenoo, to tent, encamp, dwell, to reside, as God did in the Tabernacle of old) among us." However, I think Hos. 6:3 shows that Jesus was born as the former rain on Tishri 1, the Jewish New Year. The former and latter rains are such definite times in Israel that they are printed on their calendars that give the feasts, harvests, etc.

In Hos 5:14,15, Jesus Christ, the YHVH of hosts, the Redeemer (Isa. 44:6) is talking. He says, "I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion (see the sign seen over Jerusalem, the young lion in the lunar eclipse, on my Home Page) to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear (taraph, pluck off) and go away (yalak, depart, i.e., at the Pre-Trib Rapture); I will take away (nasa, arise, lift up, carry away), and none shall rescue (natsal, snatch away, recover) him (i.e., none can take them out of his hand) I (Jesus Christ) will go (yalak, go away, withdraw, depart, return, go again back home) to my place (Heaven), till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction (tsar, Tribulation, trouble) they will seek me early." Jesus ascended 40 days after his resurrection, but this seems to be talking about the Pre-Trib Rapture, because he is snatching up believers and taking them to HIS PLACE, Heaven.

In John 14:2-4, Jesus said, "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am (in Heaven), there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know (probably to the 3rd heaven, Saturn, II Cor. 12:1f), and the way ye know." In John 14:6, "Jesus saith unto him, I AM THE WAY, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Continuing in Hosea 6, in verses 1-3, Israel is talking. She says, "Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. After two days (2000 years) will he revive us (fulfilled in 1948): in the third day (3rd millennium) he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he (Jesus Christ, LORD of hosts, the Redeemer, Y'shua, Isa. 44:6) shall come unto us as the rain (geshem), as the latter (malqowsh, the spring rain, the latter rain) and former rain (yareh, flowing as water, rain, to inform, teach, as if pointing the finger) unto the earth (erets, land of Israel)."

Nu. 10:1-14 is interesting. It mentions the two trumpets that represent the 2 Raptures, Pre-Trib and Pre-Wrath and "the twentieth day of the second month (Cheshvan 20, Oct. 26, 2002), in the second year," when the Shekinah glory cloud was taken up from the Tabernacle. That is the third day after Cheshvan 17, when Noah went into the Ark and the Lord closed the door. Also, remember that Jacob went to Joseph (type of Christ) in the 2nd bad year, Gen. 45:6. If the 7 good and 7 bad years started when the Oslo Accords were signed in 1993, we would be in the 2nd bad year right now (1993 + 7 good years = 2000).

The 1st Intifada started in 1993. The 2nd Intifada started Sept. 29, 2000, just before Tishri 1 (Sept. 30, 2000).

Nu. 10:1-14 says, "the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Make thee TWO TRUMPETS OF SILVER; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps. And when they shall blow with them (both), all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee (the elders of Rev. 4:4)....And the sons of Aaron, the priests, shall blow with the trumpets; and they shall be to you for an ordinance for ever throughout your generations. And if ye go to war in your land against the enemy that oppresseth you, then ye shall blow an alarm with the trumpets; and ye shall be remembered before the LORD your God, and ye shall be saved from your enemies. Also in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; that they may be to you for a memorial before your God: I am the LORD your God. And it came to pass on the TWENTIETH DAY OF THE SECOND MONTH, IN THE SECOND YEAR, that the cloud (Shekinah glory) was taken up from off the tabernacle of the testimony. And the children of Israel took their journeys out of the wilderness of Sinai (probably representing Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn); and the cloud rested in the wilderness of Paran (meaning cavernous, beauty; glory; ornament, i.e., Saturn)."

The Shekinah glory cloud represents the Spirit of God. Mt. 17:5 says, "While he (Jesus) yet spake, behold, a BRIGHT CLOUD overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. Act 1:9 says, "when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight."

When Moses and Elijah are caught up to Heaven Mid-Trib, Rev 11:12 says, "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a CLOUD; and their enemies beheld them."

Rev 14:14 also mentions a cloud. "I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the CLOUD one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle." This sickle is to harvest the Tribulation saints at the Pre-Wrath Rapture. Rev 14:16 says, "And he that sat on the CLOUD thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped." This 2nd Rapture is at the "last trump" of God, I Cor. 15:51,52. The first trump of God, the Pre-Trib Rapture, is in I Thess. 4:16. Agape

Incoming email, Re: 947 your "My thoughts about the rapture"

I am really hoping September 21, 2002 is the day of the rapture.

As you also mentioned 17 Cheshvan as a possible date of the rapture, I thought I'd bring up the following:

Given the idea of Prophesy in Psalms (JR Church), I've thought for awhile that Jesus Christ will be ruling in Jerusalem by, or in, 2010. Psalm 110 might indicate this. If this is the case, Rosh Hashanah in 2009 may be the date of His return. In 2009 this will fall on September 18/19 from sun down to sun down. I went to timeanddate.com and found that September 18, 2009 minus 2520 days would take you to October 25, 2002.

I found the information you provided on 17 Cheshvan (October 23, 2002) and the Noah and the ark connection, very interesting. I went back to timeanddate.com and found that from October 24, 2002 to September 17, 2009 to be 2520 days. These are the days that would be counted between 17 Cheshvan (October 23, 2002) and Rosh Hashanah (September 18/19 2009). Neither October 23, 2002 or September 18, 2009 are counted.

Also, Genesis chapter 7 confuses me somewhat. Verses 7-11 says that Noah, his family and the animals went into the ark for seven days before it started to rain. Verse 13 says they entered the ark on the same day the rain started. It is clear though that the rain started on the 17th of the second month. Maybe the first mention in verses 7 - 11 was a dry run.

Years ago, I read Grant Jeffries 'Appointment with Destiny'. The case he presented, using the significance of dates, number of days, and cycles of time, was phenomenal. Still, his premise, did not come to pass. When we are raptured though, we will understand the timing of God, and I know we will be amazed by the precision of it.

I just found your site recently, and have learned some interesting things from you, and the people who write in. Thank you. Elizabeth.

My reply

Thanks for your kind words. None of us is right all the time. We are humans prone to err, and there is no real prophet of God yet to explain things. Moses and Elijah will come after we are caught up to Heaven, so for now, we just have to watch and study the Bible to show ourselves approved of God, hoping we are rightly dividing the word of truth.

> > I've thought for awhile that Jesus Christ will be ruling in Jerusalem by, or in, 2010. Psalm 110 might indicate this. If this is the case, Rosh Hashanah in 2009 may be the date of His return.

YEAR OF SECOND ADVENT IS A LEAP YEAR

2009/10 is the Jewish 5770, which is not a leap year. I think Christ will return in a Jewish Leap Year. There are 7 Jewish months between the Day of God's Wrath (Tishri 1) and the Second Advent (Nisan 1).

5768 (2007/8) and 5771 (2010/11) are leap years. 5769 and 5770 are not. Forty years from the Sign of the End of the Age, the Six-Day War of 1967, is 2007. It seems to me that all the things that are to happen on the Day of God's Wrath will take place Tishri 1, 5768 (Sept. 13, 2007). In light of the Oslo Accords, terrorism, etc. in Israel, I don't see how things could go on until 2010. Everything seems ready to pop now.

DAY OF GOD'S WRATH IS THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS

The Day of God's Wrath is in Eze. 38:18-20. That is when "all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake." and every wall will fall. The "mountains (asteroids of Rev. 8:8,10) shall be thrown down."

I think this will take place on Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets. Mal. 2:3 says, "your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it." The 7 trumpet judgments hit Earth on the Feast of Trumpets.

Hos. 5:6-8 says, "They have dealt treacherously against the LORD: for they have begotten strange children. now shall a month (chodesh, new moon, i.e., the first day of a month) devour them with their portions. Blow ye the cornet in Gibeah, and the TRUMPET in Ramah." The Feast of Trumpets is the only feast on the 1st day of the month.

Continuing, Hos 5:9,10,14 confirms that the Day of God's Wrath is in view, not the day of the Second Advent. It says, "Ephraim shall be desolate in the DAY OF REBUKE: among the tribes of Israel have I made known that which shall surely be. The princes of Judah were like them that remove the bound: therefore I will pour out MY WRATH upon them like water....For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear (taraph, pluck off) and go away (yalak, DEPART); I WILL TAKE AWAY (nasa, lift up, take up, i.e., at the Pre-Wrath Rapture), and none shall rescue (natsal, snatch away) him. I will go (yalak, go away, depart) and return to my place (Heaven), till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early."

Joel 1:15 says, "Alas for the day! for THE DAY OF THE LORD IS AT HAND, AND AS A DESTRUCTION FROM THE ALMIGHTY (Christ, Rev. 1:8) shall it come (i.e., on the 1st day of the millennial Day of the Lord." Chapter 2 starts out, "Blow ye the TRUMPET in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF THE LORD (the Millennium) cometh (1st day), for it is nigh at hand (starts at 6 PM on the Eve of Trumpets); A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong (Gog's army, Eze. 38); there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations."

SEVEN MONTHS BETWEEN THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH AND THE SECOND ADVENT

Eze. 39:11-13 says, "it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. And SEVEN MONTHS shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified (SECOND ADVENT), saith the Lord GOD."

Seven months after the Day of God's Wrath on Tishri 1 in a leap year is Nisan 1, 1st day of the Jewish Regnal and Sacred Year. It's the Regnal Year, because Christ is the King of kings, the Sacred Year, because Christ is the Lord of lords.

SECOND ADVENT, AS THE LATTER RAIN, ON NISAN 1

Hosea 6:3 says, "the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and HE SHALL COME UNTO US AS THE RAIN, as the latter and former rain unto the earth." The former rain starts on Jesus' birthday, Tishri 1. The latter rain starts on the Second Advent, Nisan 1. There are only 6 months between Tishri 1 and Nisan 1 unless it is a Jewish Leap Year with the 13th month, Adar II, added.

Eze. 29:17 sets the date of the Second Advent, "first month, in the first day of the month" (Nisan 1, Eze. 45:18,21). Then verse 20 says, "In that day (Nisan 1) will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth (the Logos, the Word) in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD."

The years 5768 (2007/2008) and 5771 (2010/2011) are leap years. The 40-year last generation that was born when Israel regained the temple area in the Six-Day War of 1967 will end in 2007. We can be sure that "this generation" means 40 years. In 30 AD, Jesus told the Pharisees, "Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation" (Mt. 23:36). They did, 40 years later, in 70 AD.

> > Also, Genesis chapter 7 confuses me somewhat. Verses 7-11 says that Noah, his family and the animals went into the ark for seven days before it started to rain. Verse 13 says they entered the ark on the same day the rain started. It is clear though that the rain started on the 17th of the second month. Maybe the first mention in verses 7 - 11 was a dry run.

That confused me for awhile too. The Lord told Noah that it would rain after 7 more days. Gen. 7:4 says, "YET seven days, and I WILL cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights." Verse 10 confirms this, saying, "And it came to pass AFTER SEVEN DAYS, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth." We are told that the animals went in to Noah in the Ark, and that it was Cheshvan 17 in Noah's 600th year that "the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights" (7:11,12).

Having sketched the events to the end of the 40 days and nights, the Lord went back to fill in some more details. In Gen. 7:13-17, the Lord starts with the day Noah entered the Ark the last time and ends with the 40 days and nights again.

Verses 13 and 14 say, "In the selfsame day (Cheshvan 17) entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark; They, and every beast after his kind." This time the names of Noah's sons are given.

Verses 16 and 17 end the 40-day period. They say, "the LORD shut him in (on Cheshvan 17). And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth." At the Rapture, we will be lifted up above the Earth too.

Noah was in the Ark until the following year, on Cheshvan 27 (Gen. 8:14).

In Mt. 24:37,40, Jesus said, "as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be...Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left." This could tie the Rapture to Cheshvan 17 (Oct. 23, 2002).

We must wait patiently and see. In the meantime, we should confess our known sins to God, so he can cleanse us from all unrighteousness (I John 1:9). Since the foolish virgins are left behind, we must strive to be wise virgins (Mt. 25). The Holy Spirit is the oil the foolish virgins lacked. Sin builds a barrier between us and God. When they are confessed, the Holy Spirit can fill us. It will be as a fountain of living water welling up within us. Agape

Incoming email

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2002/frankm915.htm

what are your thoughts on this? It lines up with Rev. chapter 7. To me this sounds like the sealing of the 144,000. I could be wrong. This person thinks this is judgment on the US

I believe judgment is coming but IM not sure of before the Rapture or after the Rapture or perhaps both. I thought judgment would come after or at the same time of the Rapture.
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Frank R Molver (15 Sep 2002)
"9-21 sealing of the foreheads"

I realize many here think that 9-21 may be a rapture date. However I think it may have other implications as I will share later from a prophecy received by Russian Christians and sent to Russian Christians in America. Very soon there will be a much larger strike against America, similar to the one described below in Ezekial. Prior to that God will mark on the forehead all of his people who weap over the sin of this country, that mark will be Gods protection, it will happen just before a very harsh judgement. Ezekiel 9 Idolaters Killed

1 Then I heard him call out in a loud voice, "Bring the guards of the city here, each with a weapon in his hand." 2 And I saw six men coming from the direction of the upper gate, which faces north, each with a deadly weapon in his hand. With them was a man clothed in linen who had a writing kit at his side. They came in and stood beside the bronze altar. 3 Now the glory of the God of Israel went up from above the cherubim, where it had been, and moved to the threshold of the temple. Then the LORD called to the man clothed in linen who had the writing kit at his side 4 and said to him, "Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it." 5 As I listened, he said to the others, "Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. 6 Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary." So they began with the elders who were in front of the temple. 7 Then he said to them, "Defile the temple and fill the courts with the slain. Go!" So they went out and began killing throughout the city. 8 While they were killing and I was left alone, I fell facedown, crying out, "Ah, Sovereign LORD ! Are you going to destroy the entire remnant of Israel in this outpouring of your wrath on Jerusalem?" 9 He answered me, "The sin of the house of Israel and Judah is exceedingly great; the land is full of bloodshed and the city is full of injustice. They say, 'The LORD has forsaken the land; the LORD does not see.' 10 So I will not look on them with pity or spare them, but I will bring down on their own heads what they have done." 11 Then the man in linen with the writing kit at his side brought back word, saying, "I have done as you commanded."

My reply

> > Very soon there will be a much larger strike against America, similar to the one described below in Ezekiel.

Eze. 9 is not talking about the USA. It is talking about Israel. The time is the Day of God's Wrath, the 1st day of the millennial Day of the Lord. The 144,000 are sealed and caught up to Heaven before the asteroids of Rev. 8:8,10 impact Earth at noon.

Zeph. 2:1-5 says, "Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired (Israel); Before the decree (to 'slay utterly,' Eze. 9:6) bring forth, before the day (Day of God's Wrath, 1st day of the Millennium) pass as the chaff, before the fierce ANGER OF THE LORD come upon you, before the DAY OF THE LORD'S ANGER come upon you. Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid (i.e., caught up to Heaven in the Pre-Wrath Rapture) IN THE DAY OF THE LORD'S ANGER. For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the NOONDAY, and Ekron shall be rooted up. WOE UNTO THE INHABITANTS OF THE SEA COAST" (because the mountain-sized asteroid of Rev. 8:8 will impact the Mediterranean Sea).

This woe ties in with Rev. 8:13. It says, "I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, WOE, WOE, WOE, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!" I expect the Day of God's Wrath will fall on the Feast of Trumpets in 2007 (Sept. 13, 2007).

> > Prior to that God will mark on the forehead all of his people who weap over the sin of this country, that mark will be Gods protection, it will happen just before a very harsh judgement. Ezekiel 9

Those marked (sealed) will be the 144,000 Israelites, not those of the USA. All others to be raptured are the great multitude that no one can number of Rev. 7:9. This sealing is not mentioned in connection with them.

> > Now the glory of the God of Israel went up from above the cherubim, where it had been, and moved to the threshold of the temple.

I think the actual (not symbolic) two cherubim under Heaven are Mars and Jupiter. Saturn is the third heaven that Paul was caught up to in II Cor. 12:1,4. It says that the man in Christ, himself, was "caught up to the third heaven....How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words." Paradise, Heaven, is, from an earthly vantage point, the 3rd heaven, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. The true temple is in Heaven. Heb. 8:4,5 says that "priests that offer gifts according to the law...serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things."

> > Then the LORD called to the man clothed in linen who had the writing kit at his side 4 and said to him, "Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it."

The 144,000 Israelites are marked/sealed and then caught up to Heaven in the Pre-Wrath Rapture. It seems that their sealing guarantees them their place in the Bride group. They "are virgins...being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God" (Rev. 16:4,5).

> > 5 As I listened, he said to the others, "Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. 6 Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children

The 7 trumpet judgments hit Earth.

> > 9 He answered me, "The sin of the house of Israel and Judah is exceedingly great; the land is full of bloodshed and the city is full of injustice. They say, 'The LORD has forsaken the land; the LORD does not see.' 10 So I will not look on them with pity or spare them, but I will bring down on their own heads what they have done."

This chapter (Eze. 9) applies to Israel, including Judah and Jerusalem, not to the USA. However, the desolation on the Day of God's Wrath will spread to the USA. Eze. 38:20 tells us that the worldwide earthquake will cause every wall to fall. Rev. 16:17-19 says, "the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the TEMPLE OF HEAVEN, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city (Jerusalem) was divided into three parts, and THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS FELL: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath."

Rev. 18:21 says of Babylon's destruction, "a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone (i.e., an asteroid), and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all." Agape

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