Pro and Con 960

Posted 10-19-02

Incoming email, Re: One More About The Millenium

Rev. 7:15. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16. They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

I have a question for you:
1. If these people who are taken out prior to the release of God's judjment were promised NEVER to be exposed to the sunlight or any heat whatsoever, then how could Jesus bring them down to reign on an earth with sunlight in it?

My reply

Isa 4:5 says, "the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a CLOUD AND SMOKE BY DAY, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a DEFENCE (chuppah, canopy, divine protection). And there shall be a tabernacle for A SHADOW IN THE DAYTIME FROM THE HEAT, and for a place of refuge, and for a covert from storm and from rain." Agape

Incoming email

do you know when noon time starts according to the bible? I know the day begins from sunset to sunset. Do you know if noon begins at 3:00p.m. according to biblical instructions instead of 12:00p.m. which is the Roman time?

My reply

There are 12 hours of night (6 PM to 6 AM) and 12 hours of day (6 AM to 6 PM). Noon is 6 hours after 6 AM, or 12, the same as for us. Agape

Incoming email, Re: RUSTLING THE NEST

2 Rapture,s!!
I have been kicked out of 4 Churche,s so far ; because of such nonsense as that,I was talking to a man recently who tell,s me there are 3 resurections and I have already missed out !!! I will ask you the same question !! How are you going to miss the---{Great Tribulation}---and take part in the {First Resurection}? {Rev:20-v4} I know all of you out there that say there is a {SECRET RAPTURE} also say the Dead will rise first {Resurection # 1} {according to you} and then you special ones will be caught up to be with the lord !! And then if I get it right this is where this big {Fable or LIE } {2Tim:4-v4}{see webester,s} "LEFT BEHIND" kicks in. And then some time later these {Precious}Tribulation Saint,s "OF"{Rev:20-v4} will be resurected ={Resurection # 2} using your formula!! Well "Jesus"said your 2nd resurection was his first one ! {Rev:20-v5} Guess who we believe? YOU or JESUS ? GOD didn't take {NOAH} out of the {FLOOD} he took him {THROUGH} the flood !! Jesus is coming {ONE} more time;;and ready or not you are going {THROUGH} the "GREAT TRIBULATION" ----- and me were born again in the middle 1960s and the closer we get to the Great Tribulation the goofier the message is from the Pulpet !! You seem to be very well taught or Educated by men or ladies but not very well taught by the Holy Spirit!! ---We love you in Jesus---


> > 2 Rapture,s!!
> > I have been kicked out of 4 Churche,s so far ; because of such nonsense as that

Which? "RUSTLING THE NEST," saying that "2 Rapture,s!!" are "nonsense," or both?

I have yet to be kicked out of any church, and I believe that there are 2 Raptures, one for the Bride of Christ (the Pre-Trib Rapture), the other for the Tribulation saints (the Pre-Wrath Rapture). I don't rustle the nest. I am secure in my own beliefs and know that I have a right to my own, and they have a right to their own.

Neither has been given the right to attack or cram anything down the other's throat. Friendly discussion is ok. We are both Christians and are supposedly filled with the Holy Spirit of God. One of the attributes of God is agape love. If we have God dwelling in us, we should be operating in his agape love too. 1Co 13:2 says, "And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity (agape, love, God's love), I am nothing."

I know that God would not want me to attack any of his ministers. He is doing the most important thing, bringing the unsaved to Christ. Other things are secondary.

Listen to Luke 9:49,50. "John...said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus kindly said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us." Believers are all one Body of Christ. After all, if we are right about Christ, we can be wrong about other things and still make it to Heaven.

I will share with you the reasons for my belief in 2 Raptures, but it is entirely up to you to examine the scriptures and decide for yourself. I will be kind if you disagree. I understand why you believe as you do, and you are not alone. There are others that agree with you.

I am so glad that I read the Bible before I read anything man wrote about the Bible. It made me able to decide whether what I was reading agreed with the Bible or not.

> > How are you going to miss the---{Great Tribulation}---and take part in the {First Resurection}? {Rev:20-v4}

If I am righteous (with all sins under the blood of Christ), Isa. 57:1-3 says, "merciful (checed, loving, kindly, merciful) men are taken away (acaph, gathered, removed, evacuated), none considering that THE RIGHTEOUS IS TAKEN AWAY (acaph, gathered, removed, evacuated), FROM (paniym, away from the face of) THE EVIL (the Tribulation) TO COME (after the Rapture). He shall enter into peace (in Heaven): they (the Bride of Christ) shall rest in their beds ('in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds,' Psa. 149:5), each one walking in his uprightness. But draw NEAR hither (the Tribulation is near when the Pre-Trib Rapture takes place), ye sons (the Beast and False Prophet of the Tribulation, Rev. 13) of the sorceress, the seed (zera, child) of the adulterer and the whore" (i.e., the harlot church of Babylon).

This agrees with Rev. 3:10-12. Jesus says, "Because thou (the Philadelphians, which means brotherly love, for whom Jesus has no words of condemnation) hast kept the word of my patience (patient endurance), I also will keep thee (the righteous Philadelphians) from (ek, out of, as translated in Rev. 5:9) the hour of temptation (peirasmou, trial, i.e., the Tribulation), which shall (after the Rapture of the Philadelphians) come upon all the world, to try (peirasai) them that dwell upon the earth. Behold, I come quickly (at the Rapture, Rev. 22:12,20): hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown (crowns are not mentioned for those taken away in the Pre-Wrath Rapture). Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name."

> > I know all of you out there that say there is a {SECRET RAPTURE}

That isn't so. Psa. 40:1-3 says, "I waited patiently (as the Philadelphians) for the LORD; and he inclined (bent down) unto me, and heard my cry. He brought me up also out of an horrible pit (as Jeremiah was brought up out of the miry pit), out of the miry clay (i.e., bodies of clay), and set my feet upon a rock (the planet Heaven), and established my goings (transportation to Heaven). And he hath put a new song (sung after the Pre-Trib Rapture, Rev. 5:9) in my mouth, even praise unto our God: MANY SHALL SEE IT (the Rapture), and fear, and shall trust in the LORD." Those Tribulation saints will be taken up to Heaven at the Pre-Wrath Rapture.

> > also say the Dead will rise first {Resurection # 1} {according to you} and then you special ones will be caught up to be with the lord !!

The First Resurrection is in ranks. I Cor. 15:22,23 says, "as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order (tagmati, rank): Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming."

The Body of Christ is caught up to Heaven in ranks. Christ, the head, was caught up on Resurrection Day and again on Ascension Day 40 days later. On Resurrection Day, he took some of the Old Testament saints that came out of their graves (Mt. 27:52,53) to Heaven. Christ was the 1st rank of the Body of Christ to ascend to Heaven. Those OT saints that came out of their graves were the 2nd rank. The Bride of Christ saints will be the 3rd rank. The Tribulation saints will be the last rank.

At that point, all believers will be in Heaven and all unbelievers will be on Earth. At the Judgment Seat of Christ that day, the saints in Heaven will get their rewards. At the same time, the unbelievers on Earth will get their just rewards for their unbelief.

As the wrath of God falls on the unbelievers on Earth, Israel will be born in a day--that day (Isa. 66:8). They and those judged to be sheep at the Judgment of the Nations (Mt. 25:31-34) will live on into the Millennium on Earth. The Israeli saints in Heaven will be split. Some, like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham and Sara (Heb. 11:4-11) will inherit their place in the heavenly Jerusalem. Others will return to Earth and stay here. The Jews are promised the Earth. Daniel will stand in his lot in Israel on the 1335th day (Dan. 12:13).

Heb. 11:15,16 explains, "truly, if they (Abel, etc.) had been mindful of that country (Earth) from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. BUT NOW THEY DESIRE A BETTER COUNTRY, THAT IS, AN HEAVENLY: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city" (New Jerusalem).

> > And then if I get it right this is where this big {Fable or LIE } {2Tim:4-v4}{see webester,s} "LEFT BEHIND" kicks in.

Luke 12:46 tells us about the unwise servant of the Lord. It says, "The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (lit., cut him off, like the Laodiceans whom he spues (emesai, vomits) out of his mouth, Rev. 3:16), and will appoint him his portion (the shortened Tribulation) with the unbelievers" (left on Earth). Mt. 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion (the shortened Tribulation) with the hypocrites (pretenders): THERE SHALL BE WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH." Mt. 22:11-14 explains this. The man without a wedding garment (i.e., white robe of righteousness) is cast outside Heaven's door. "FOR MANY ARE CALLED, BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN."

We must be called and chosen and faithful. In Rev. 17:14, the Rapture has just taken place. The 10 kings have received no kingdom as yet (v. 12). The saints have just been caught up to Heaven with the Lord of lords, and King of kings. "THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL." These are the Bride saints that are with Christ in Rev. 4:1 and 5:9 before the Tribulation begins in Rev. 6. The Bride saints are in Heaven when Jesus is given the 7-sealed Title Deed of the Earth. The Tribulation begins when the 1st seal is broken in Rev. 6.

Rev 19:8 says of the Bride of Christ, "And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness (lit., righteousnesses) of saints."

> > GOD didn't take {NOAH} out of the {FLOOD} he took him {THROUGH} the flood !!

The Ark represented Christ the Saviour. Those in Christ were floated up by the water, a symbol of the Spirit of Christ/Spirit of God/Holy Spirit. Those not floated up above the mountains of Earth, totally free of the Earth, were destroyed.

Enoch was a Gentile. He was raptured because he walked with God. No rain had yet fallen. He represents the Pre-Trib Rapture.

Elijah (an Israelite) was in big trouble, even prayed to die. Ahab and Jezebel wanted to kill him. He had to flee and hide, like the Tribulation saints will flee Judah and hide in Petra during the Great Tribulation. He represented the Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Tribulation saints.

The Pre-Trib Rapture is as the day of Noah (Mt. 24:37). No fire fell the day the Lord shut the door of the Ark, just rain.

The Pre-Wrath Rapture is as the days of Lot. Fire fell that day.

Luke 17:22-37 says, "he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see ONE OF THE DAYS (plural, there are 2 Days of the Son of Man, the 2 Raptures) OF THE SON OF MAN, and ye shall not see it (i.e., the 1st Rapture). And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them. For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day....And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days (plural) of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage (only mentioned for the days of Noah, not the days of Lot), until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all."

Mt. 24;37f tells us that some were taken and others left. That is the Pre-Trib Rapture of the Bride of Christ.

Continuing in Luke 17, "Likewise also as it was in the DAYS OF LOT; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded (no marriage mentioned); But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven (God's wrath, Rev. 8:8,10), and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed (the Sign of the Son of Man will be seen that day, Mt. 24:30; Rev. 6:14f). In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. Remember Lot's wife. Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left (the 2nd Rapture). Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body (Body of Christ) is (in Heaven), thither will the eagles (Tribulation saints) be gathered together."

Isa 40:31 says, "they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint."

> > Jesus is coming {ONE} more time;;and ready or not you are going {THROUGH} the "GREAT TRIBULATION"

I intend to be among the wise Philadelphian virgins of Rev. 5:9. It says, "thou (Christ) wast slain, and hast (past tense) redeemed us to God by thy blood out of (ek, from, out of) every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation."

The "great multitude, which no man could number, of all nation, and kindreds, and people, and tongues" seen in Heaven between the breaking of the 6th (Rev. 6:12) and 7th seals (Rev. 8:1) will have come "out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God" (Rev. 7:9,14,15).

Notice that the Philadelphians did not have to wash their robes in the blood of Christ. They had already confessed their sins committed after they accepted Christ so he could cleanse them from "ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS" (I John 1:9). Therefore they are in fellowship with their holy God when the Rapture of the Bride of Christ takes place.

The Bride saints of Rev. 5:9 sing a new song. They are in Heaven before the 7-sealed book is given to Christ. They are caught up in Rev. 4:1, before the Tribulation starts in Rev. 6.

Now look at Rev. 14:2-5. Only the 144,000 of Rev. 7's Rapture of the Tribulation saints are added to the Bride group. How do we know that? They "sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders (12 apostles and 12 patriarchs caught up with John in 4:1): and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG BUT THE HUNDRED AND FORTY AND FOUR THOUSAND (Israelites), WHICH WERE REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH. These are they which were not defiled with women; for THEY ARE VIRGINS. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits (the last rank of the First Resurrection, of which Christ was the first) unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for THEY ARE WITHOUT FAULT BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD" (because they have confessed their sins as per I John 1:9).

John 13:5-10 says, "After that he (Jesus) poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded. Then cometh he to Simon Peter (one of the elders caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture of Rev. 4:1): and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet? Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter. Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, IF I WASH THEE NOT, THOU HAST NO PART WITH ME. Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head. Jesus saith to him, HE THAT IS WASHED NEEDETH NOT SAVE TO WASH HIS FEET, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean."

When we accept Christ, our "old sins" (I Peter 1:9) are wiped off the books. After that, we must confess known sins to wash our robes in the blood of Christ. I John 1:9 says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness."

> > ---- and me were born again in the middle 1960s and the closer we get to the Great Tribulation the goofier the message is from the Pulpet !! You seem to be very well taught or Educated by men or ladies but not very well taught by the Holy Spirit!!

I started deep Bible study at least by 1960. I have done all my studying on my own with the help of the Lord. I read the Bible first. Then I read about an 18" stack of books from BIOLA's Seminary Collection every week for 7 years. At that time, I was exasperated. No one could convince me that they knew what the cherubim of Gen. 3:24 and Eze. 1 and 10 were. It was the same with the flaming sword that turned every way in Gen. 3:24.

I put my hands on my open Bible and told the Lord he would have to show me, that I wanted to know everything he wanted man to know about the Bible--all the deep things, everything.

For the next 7 years, I used mainly my KJV and Strong's Concordance. I learned so fast I felt like I had a tiger by the tail. Since then I have read every word of at least 17 Bible versions. I have read almost all of several other versions that people have been so nice to send me. When I get one, I can't wait to read it. When the Bible got hold of me, I couldn't let go. I'm anxious to learn more when we get to Heaven.

...I'm hoping to meet both of you when we get to Heaven too. Agape

From 5 Doves site, with my comments interspersed and marked ***

Carole Alexander (11 Oct 2002)

The war described in Ezekiel 38-39 must be seven years before Armageddon. Such timing would place it at the beginning of the Tribulation. The war, known as Gog and Magog, would occur between the Rapture of the Church and the beginning of the Tribulation....

***I think they will burn the weapons the first 7 years of the Millennium, not during the shortened Tribulation.

***Gog's army will be attacking Israel on the Day of God's Wrath, at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation. Eze. 38:18,19 tells us that it is the time that God's FURY comes up in his face and mentions HIS WRATH. V. 20 tells us about the worldwide earthquake, when "ALL THE MEN THAT ARE UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, SHALL SHAKE AT MY PRESENCE (paniym, face, i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man of Mt. 24:30; Rev. 6:14f), and the mountains (asteroids of Rev. 8:8,10) shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and EVERY WALL SHALL FALL TO THE GROUND." That means that every building worldwide will fall. That comes at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation, not as the Tribulation begins. Nothing says that the 2 witnesses prophesy after every building is demolished.

***This is when "THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME." Rev 6:14-17 say, "the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places (worldwide earthquake). And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; and who shall be able to stand?"

> > The Russo-Islamic effort to destroy Israel will collapse in a great dispirited heap. In the aftermath of the war, the Jewish nation will have to devote seven months to decontaminating the countryside of all the dead invaders' bodies (Ezek. 39:11-12).

***This war is not just "Russo-Islamic effort to destroy Israel." The Lord says, "I will gather ALL NATIONS (i.e., the United Nations) against Jerusalem to battle...Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle" (Zech. 14:2,3).

***Isa 34:1-5 says, "Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it. For THE INDIGNATION OF THE LORD IS UPON ALL NATIONS, AND HIS FURY UPON
ALL THEIR ARMIES: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter. Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood. And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll (the Sign of the Son of Man will be seen, Mt. 24:30): and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree. For my sword (the binary asteroid, which is the flaming sword that turns every way, Gen. 3:24) shall be bathed in heaven (i.e., the heavens): behold, it ('the curse,' Zech. 5:1-4) shall come down upon Idumea (red, i.e., Gog, etc.), and upon the people of MY CURSE, to judgment" (on the day of the Judgment Seat of Christ).

***The type was Joshua/Jesus's Long Day. Jos 10:11 says, "And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that THE LORD CAST DOWN GREAT STONES FROM HEAVEN UPON THEM UNTO AZEKAH, AND THEY DIED: THEY WERE MORE WHICH DIED WITH HAILSTONES (HAIL OF ROCKS) THAN THEY WHOM THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL SLEW WITH THE SWORD."

***The Judgment Seat of Christ is the day the curse will impact Earth. Rev. 11:17-19 says, "We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art (on the 1st day of his Kingdom), and wast (at the 1st Advent), and art to come (7 months later at the 2nd Advent); because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast REIGNED. And the nations were angry, and THY WRATH IS COME, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged (at the Judgment Seat of Christ), and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament (in it are the 2 stone tablets that represent the 2 asteroid pieces that will be shattered as Moses shattered the 1st tablets because they worshiped the golden calf): and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake (the worldwide earthquake of Eze. 38:20), and great hail."

Spherical Core Found At Center Of Earth

By William J. Cromie - The Harvard Gazette - 10-15-2

My reply

Thanks. I noticed that they agree to "the ripping off of a big chunk to make the moon."

There may be a deflection in seismic wave travel at 360 miles from dead center, but for a different reason. If the bottomless pit has no bottom, it seems to refer to a liquid center from where all directions are up. A solid seems like it would exist farther away from the center where it would make sense to be cooler and therefore of a thicker consistency. Agape

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Check out...Click here: APOD: 2002 October 15 - Aurora's Ring

My reply

Thanks, that was neat. I have seen pictures of auroral rings on both Jupiter and Saturn too. These things indicate that there are strong forces operating to form those rings, forces that we only partially understand.

Why some people can't see God's hand in all things is amazing. I was looking through the Oct. 96 National Geographic today. I have only skimmed an interesting article, ready to reread it carefully. What I've already read tickled me.

You know, when we have an oil spill in the ocean, we try to clean it all up as fast as possible, expecting all kinds of life forms to be killed by it. It does kill birds, etc., but it doesn't always kill everything in sight where it naturally occurs.

Scientists took a submersible down in the Gulf of Mexico where oil seeps seen floating on the water showed that there are oil traps below. There are also great salt deposits down there, far more than normal--methane too. All kinds of poisonous things, and too dark for photosynthesis to boot. If one thing didn't kill life down there, surely another would.

In 1984, trawlers had thought they would find a small haul of sea life sickened by the oil. What they got was astonishingly opposite. "Nets were so full of shells and tube worms they were threatening to rip."

When the submersible went down, they thought they would find a smattering of clams, mussels, tube worms, etc. They were in for a huge surprise too. They too were overwhelmed at the huge numbers of life forms below.

"Like a spaceship on a strange planet, the Johnson-Sea-Link submersible reaches for a sample of the mussels ringing a pool of brine on the seafloor. The profusion of life 2,000 feet below the sea astonished scientists who discovered this inhospitable world in 1984. Research has since revealed that these mussels and other animals survive on bacteria that consume naturally seeping gases."

Not only is that life without light, which is supposed to be indispensable, but the gulf's millions of creatures are supported by those underlying fields of oil and gas. They feed bacteria that feed tube worms that feed lobsters, etc.

What we thought would kill life in fact supports life. We couldn't have built the food chain, and some scientists think it all happened by chance? To me, that's preposterous. All things below, on the surface and above the Earth demonstrate the wisdom of God.

People show their inability to understand all the workings of nature when they do things like transplanting rabbits to Australia, where they had no natural enemy. Here settlers brought in some kind of reed similar to bamboo. It is a terrible weed and nearly impossible to get rid of. Where it has even been dug out with big machines, it quickly regrows and chokes the natural waterways.

Sometimes, we must get in God's way with our bungling. It's a good thing he is kind and forgiving, realizing that we just don't know any better. A fisherman sets off dynamite near coral reefs. He gets more stunned fish on that trip, but he is destroying the reef that lure the fish in the first place. One day, there will be a sad reckoning. No reef, few fish. Agape

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