Anyway, at this point I would say that I have very high level of confidence that October, 27, 2002 is it!!
At this point I have very good evidence, that Oct, 27 or sooner, we will no longer be standing on this planet for a seven year period. (actually less than seven, but you know what I mean).
From the new information that I now have I believe, with a high probability, that we are thereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! I know that I am showing a fair amount of exuberance, but this scenario is a fit...better than any that I have EVER seen. If you want more detail I will share it with you. If not, I will be on my way to tell others who are willing to here the evidence.
All I can say is that my hope level is off the scale at this point. In Christ
FWD: Feasts are alive.
I think that I would be remiss to not try to explain the true Feast days and how they are arrived at.
First let me say that this year the fall feasts are as follows:
Oct 6, 2002 - 1 Tishri (Rosh Hashanah - Feast of Trumpets) Oct 15, 2002 - 10 Tishri (Yom Kippur - Day of Atonement) Oct 20 - 26, 2002 - 15 -21 Tishri (Sukkot - Tabernacles) Oct 27, 2002 - 22 Tishri ( Simkhat Torah - Last great day)
Now, the question is how are these dates arrived at. Here is the criteria based on Gods design of the Sun, Moon, and Earth to form Seasons, years, days and hours.
To determine the start of the feasts for a given year one must consider the following.
1. Vernal Equinox - this is the beginning of Spring, ie the growing season.
2. 1st conjunction (when the moon is black (new) because the Earth is directly in the path of the Sun so there is no reflection of the Sun on the moon) this occurs on or after the Vernal Equinox to start counting holy days.
3. Start each month - next conjunction of the Sun, Moon, Earth. (new, ie black moon)
4. Autumn Equinox - When growing & harvest ends.
This year for example the Vernal Equinox falls on March 20 at 9:16pm in Israel. That is on March 22, 2002 because 9:16 is after sunset, so it belongs to the next day. (the Jewish day is sunset to sunset).
Next we have the 9:22pm April 12, 2002, which is actually April 13, 2002. This sets the first month for counting feast days, ie Nisan 1. The following are the feasts for the year.
Passover =============>April 26, 2002 (14 Nisan)
Unleavened Bread start ==>April 27, 2002 (15 Nisan)
Unleavened Bread end ===>May 3, 2002 (22 Nisan)
Pentecost =============>June 16, 2002 (6 Sivan)
Trumpets =============>Oct 6, 2002 (1 Tishri)
Atonement ============>Oct 15, 2002 (10 Tishri)
Tabernacles start =======>Oct 20, 2002 (15 Tishri)
Tabernacles end =======>Oct 26, 2002 (21 Tishri)
Last great day =========>Oct 27, 2002 (22 Tishri)
Chanukah start ========>Dec 27, 2002 (25 Kislev)
Chanukah end ========>Jan 3, 2002 (2 Tevet)
As a result of the preceding information there is great hope that the rapture will fall on one of these days. My guess is Tabernacles, since that is when Jesus transfigured before Peter and John. Possibly the last day of Tabernacles for example.
Anyway these feast are not well known so VERY FEW believers will be looking to these days, which are the actual feast days, not the false days that just went by in September. Take Care
> > at this point I would say that I have very high level of confidence that October, 27, 2002 is it !
I hope you are right. The sooner the better. Ed is scheduled for cataract surgery on the first eye in less than a month. We haven't yet been told just when the other eye would be done. It may depend on how everything goes the first time. I hope his having to stay off of his blood thinner for awhile won't cause another TIA (little stroke). He's had 4 already, both before and after his bypass surgery.
> To determine the start of the feasts for a given year one must consider the following.
> 1. Vernal Equinox - this is the beginning of Spring, ie the growing season.
> 2. 1st conjunction (when the moon is black (new) because the Earth is directly in the path of the Sun so there is no reflection of the Sun on the moon) this occurs on or after the Vernal Equinox to start counting holy days.
> 3. Start each month - next conjunction of the Sun, Moon, Earth. (new, ie black moon)
> 4. Autumn Equinox - When growing & harvest ends.
I'm not sure that is the correct way to figure the feast days. As I understand it, the Jews didn't go by the dark of the Moon. They went by the first sighting of the New Moon.
The way the feast schedule is figured today, all that is necessary is to fix the date of Tishri 1, the Jewish NYD (New Year Day). Since the number of days from Nisan 1 (in the spring) to Tishri 1 (near fall) is constant, even in Leap Years, fixing the NYD fixes all the feast dates. The NYD is figured mathematically from the so-called First NYD (Sunday at 11 minutes and 6 parts after 11 PM).
Nisan always has 30 days, Iyar 29, Sivan 30, Tamuz 29, Av, 30 and Elul 29, totaling 177 days. To figure the feast days this year, the mathematical NYD was set on Tishri 1, 5763 (Sept. 7, 2002). Counting back 177 days, not by inclusive reckoning, lands on Nisan 1, 5762 (March 14, 2002). The variation for possible NYDs is from Sept. 3 to Oct. 6. Your computation for Tishri 1 is on the last day possible this year.
The Jews don't want the weekly Sabbath and the Day of Atonement on consecutive days, therefore Tishri 1 is moved forward one day if it falls on Wed, Friday, or Sunday. This year, Tishri 1 falls on Saturday, which is ok. With this provision, Passover, Nisan 14, can only fall on Monday, Wednesday or Friday. It fell on Friday in 30 AD.
Jesus died on Thursday (Nisan 13) as the Passover lambs were being slain in the temple. It was about 3 PM on the Eve of Passover. The Passover (Nisan 14) was Friday. The Feast of Unleavened Bread (Nisan 15) was Saturday. Firstfruits (Resurrection Day, Nisan 16) was Sunday.
Actually, there are 4 Exceptions in the Rules of the Jewish Calendar. The first day of Tishri, the NYD, is on the day of the New Moon (NM) of Tishri, except
1. When the NM occurs on Wednesday, Friday, or Sunday
2. When the NM occurs at noon or later
3. When the NM of Tishri of an Ordinary Year occurs on Tuesday at 11 minutes, 6 parts, after 3 AM, or later
4. When, at the termination of a Leap Year, the NM occurs on Monday at 32 minutes, 13 parts after 9 AM, or later.
If the NYD is shifted one day, and that day is a forbidden day, Tishri 1 is shifted two days.
I am reluctant to abandon the present Jewish Calendar. It is pretty accurate over the 19-year cycle, and astonishingly accurate over a 57-year cycle.
However, the Hebrew word "chodesh" means both "month and "new moon." When "chodesh" is used in the Old Testament without a day number, the first day of the month is to be assumed. Israel arrived at the Wilderness of Sinai on Sivan 1 (Ex. 19:1).
This would lead to establishing the head of each month at the sighting of the crescent Moon. The problem with that is that the Lunar Calender falls behind the Solar Calendar. Both the Sun and Moon were appointed "for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years" (Gen. 1:14), not just the Moon. The Lunar Calendar has to be adjusted some way to conform with the Solar Calendar. They have to have abib barley in the ear at Firstfruits too.
> Oct 20 - 26, 2002 - 15 -21 Tishri (Sukkot - Tabernacles)
> Oct 27, 2002 - 22 Tishri ( Simkhat Torah - Last great day)
I hope you are figuring right. We will know soon. Agape
this intriguing web site has just begun to be developed and should provide more nuggets of discovery and insight in the days to come should the LORD tarry.
Thanks for the interesting information. Jim and Penny, like Ron Wyatt did, think Mt. Sinai is in Saudi Arabia east of the part of the Red Sea called the Gulf of Aqaba. Are they right? I have wanted to look into this; guess this is the time....
Ron Wyatt based his belief on the words "mount Sinai in ARABIA" in Gal 4:24,25. It says, "these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai (Gr. Sina), which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar (Hagar). For this Agar is MOUNT SINAI IN ARABIA (Gr. Arabia, desert, barren)." Strong's definition of Sina is a mountain or mountainous region IN THE PENINSULA OF ARABIA PETRAEA, made famous by the giving of the Mosaic law.
"Arabia Petraea" and "peninsula" fit the area we now call Sinai. They do not fit Saudi Arabia.
The map above (omitted, it isn't a good one) places Mt. Sinai in the southern tip of the peninsula. The map in my Scofield Bible (KJV) labels 2 places as "Mt. Sinai?" One is mount "Jebel Helal" in the north, near a trail labeled "The Way to Shur." It crosses the The Wilderness of Shur in the north. It looks like there were 2 trails, The Way to the Land of the Philistines along the sea coast and The Way to Shur farther inland. The Israelites left Rameses and came to Succoth (Ex. 12:37). It looks like they took the Way to Shur, for it was in front of Succoth, and they were not to go the short way to Philistia. The trail to Shur goes by Jebel Helal in the north.
The map above has one road start out as the Way to Shur did, then wander toward the sea and join up with the Way to the Land of the Philistines, but the map in my Bible shows them as 2 separate roads. That fits. Ex. 15:22 says, "So Moses brought Israel from the Red sea, and THEY WENT OUT INTO THE WILDERNESS OF SHUR." They went to Marah (v. 23), then to Elim (v. 27), where there were 12 wells of water and 60 palm trees, to camp.
"And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto THE WILDERNESS OF SIN (Heb., Ciyn), WHICH IS BETWEEN ELIM AND SINAI (Ciynay), on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt" (Ex. 16:1). It sounds like they were still on The Way to Shur and that the Wilderness of Sin was where Mt. Sinai (Sina in Greek) was located. So far, the northern location seems to make sense.
The Israelites had women, children, babies, and flocks. They did not travel fast. They had already traveled a month when they arrived at the Wilderness of Sin. They left at Passover. It is the middle of Iyar here, and they will arrive at Mt. Sinai on the first day of the 3rd month, Nisan.
Ex. 15:22,27 sums it up, saying, "Moses brought Israel from the Red sea, and they went out into the wilderness of Shur; and they went three days in the wilderness, and found no water (then the water of Marah was made sweet)...And they came to Elim, where were twelve wells of water."
Now look at Ex. 17:1,5-8. It says, "they pitched in Rephidim: and there was no water for the people to drink....the LORD said unto Moses, Go on before (ahead on the trail to Shur) the people, and take with thee of the elders of Israel; and thy rod, wherewith thou smotest the river, take in thine hand, and go. Behold, I will stand before thee there upon THE ROCK IN HOREB ('THE MOUNTAIN OF GOD'); and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel. And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah...Then came Amalek, and fought with Israel in Rephidim."
Ex. 3:1,2 says of the days before the Exodus, "Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the BACKSIDE OF THE DESERT, AND CAME TO THE MOUNTAIN OF GOD, EVEN TO HOREB (maybe the area where Mt. Sinai is a certain peak, Unger's Bible Dictionary). And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush." So Horeb is the mountain of God, either Mt. Sinai itself or in the same area, and Moses had been there before. Since the burning bush miracle happened there, Moses got another miracle there, the water gushed out of the rock. One map I looked at had the word MIDIANITES east to west crossing above the upright Gulf of Aqaba like a "T." Some Midianites lived on the Sinai Peninsula as well as on the east side of the Gulf of Aqaba in Saudi Arabia.The low desert part of the Sinai Peninsula is toward the Great Sea (the Mediterranean). Looking at the topographical map that came with this month's National Geographic, it looks like the hill country, which is south of the desert area could be called "the backside of the desert." That would make sense since it would be farther away from the Great Sea from the Midianite's viewpoint.
Back to the Exodus. About two more weeks have elapsed. Ex. 19:1-3 says, "In the third month (Nisan 1, for chodesh means both 'month' and 'new moon,' which is the 1st of the month), when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day (Nisan 1) came they into THE WILDERNESS OF SINAI. For they were departed from Rephidim, and were come to THE DESERT OF SINAI, and had pitched in the wilderness; and there Israel camped before the mount."
This sounds like the northern Mt. Jebel Helal is Mt. Sinai. Only the northern location could be called "the DESERT of Sinai." On the National Geographic map, the central part of the southern tip of the peninsula is packed with mountains. These are carefully drawn maps, even our military use them. The land itself is photographed from our satellites. I think we can go by it.
It's easy to see that there is enough room for the Israelites to circle the northern location, too. De 2:3 says, "Ye have COMPASSED THIS MOUNTAIN LONG ENOUGH: turn you northward." I think they circled Mt. Sinai because it represented Heaven, which has rings around it. When Moses sent the spies into the Promised land, they were at Kadesh. It was near Shur. After entering Canaan, Ge 20:1 says that "Abraham journeyed from thence toward the south country, and dwelled BETWEEN KADESH AND SHUR, and sojourned in Gerar."
On the map in my KJV, Kadesh-barnea is east of and not far away from Jebel Helal, the northern Mt. Sinai. Since Moses struck a rock and water came forth, it isn't surprising to find that a tributary of the Brook of Egypt originates near Jebel Helal. However, there is also a stream of water near the place labelled Mt. Sinai? (Mt. Horeb) in the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula. Which of the 3 sites is the real Mt. Sinai? At this point, I pick Jebel Helal.
Eze 47:19 says, "And the south side southward, from Tamar even to the waters of strife in Kadesh, THE RIVER TO THE GREAT SEA." The Brook of Egypt has tributaries flowing from the Wilderness of Paran, Kadesh-barnea, and Mt. Sinai (Jebel Helal)." Eze 48:28 also mentions this river. It says, "And by the border of Gad, at the south side southward, the border shall be even from Tamar unto the waters of strife in Kadesh, and to THE RIVER TOWARD THE GREAT SEA." The water out of the rock probably flowed out to the Mediterranean Sea through the Brook of Egypt.
Num 10:12 says, "the children of Israel took their journeys out of the wilderness of Sinai; and the cloud rested in the wilderness of Paran." The Wilderness of Paran is listed about halfway between the 2 proposed locations of Mt. Sinai on the map in my KJV. The northern location of Mt. Sinai seems most likely to me. See what you think....Agape
LOCATION OF MOUNT SINAI
Ron Wyatt thought Mt. Sinai was east of the Gulf of Aqaba in Saudi Arabia.
THE ROUTE OF THE EXODUS JOURNEYS, by Ron Wyatt
Jim and Penny Caldwell agree with Wyatt's conclusion.
The map in my KJV Scofield Bible shows two possible locations for Mt. Sinai, one (Jebel Halal) in the north near the road called The Way to Shur, the other in the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula.
Therefore, we have three possibilities. Which of the three is the real Mt. Sinai? The Bible should show us.
CLUES TO THE LOCATION OF MT. SINAI FROM THE BIBLE
Before crossing the Red Sea
Nu. 33:1-38 gives us the complete list of the Exodus campsites, so I'll organize this according to Nu. 33, inserting my words and other scriptures in between these verses, or in scattered parenthetic sections.
Nu. 33:1: "THESE ARE THE JOURNEYS OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, which went forth out of the land of Egypt with their armies under the hand of Moses and Aaron."
Nu. 33:2: "And Moses wrote their goings out according to their journeys by the commandment of the LORD: and these are their journeys according to their goings out."...
Nu. 33:5: "the children of Israel removed from Rameses (meaning son of the Sun), and pitched in Succoth (booths, tents)."
The meanings of some of the camps gives us some added insight into the route of the Exodus. At Succoth, the Israelites camped in booths or tents. Succoth is located a bit inland from Lake Timsah, which is the northern lake in the Red Sea fault. From Succoth, the way out into the desert is in sight.
Nu. 33:6: "And they departed from Succoth, and pitched in ETHAM (meaning BOUNDARY OF THE SEA), WHICH IS IN THE EDGE OF THE WILDERNESS (midbar, wilderness or desert)."
The waters of the Mediterranean Sea came inland as far as Etham, the boundary of the sea. It looks like this inlet was once the junction of the continuous waters of the Red Sea and the Mediterranean. Besides this inlet from the Mediterranean, three lakes, Timsah, Great Bitter Lake and Little Bitter Lake, show us the Red Sea fault. Today, the Suez Canal connects the Red Sea and the Mediterranean. Both the upper inlet and the approx. 100 ft. wide very deep Gulf of Suez were called the Red Sea, as was the eastern tongue we call the Gulf of Aqaba.
At Etham, it looks like Israel could have gone right out into the desert that arcs around following the coasts of the Red Sea and the Mediterranean. However, the Lord planned the miraculous crossing of the Red Sea, so instead of leading them out in the desert at that time, he turned them north along the bank of the inlet called the Red Sea.
The Wilderness of Etham started at there and went eastward along the Mediterranean coast. Israel traveled in the Wilderness of Etham for three days after crossing the Red Sea dry shod (Nu. 33:8). The Wilderness of Etham is part of the larger Wilderness of Shur, for they also traveled three days in the Wilderness of Shur (Ex. 15:22). I'll quote these verses a little later.
Ex. 13:17: "And it came to pass, when Pharaoh had let the people go, that God led them not through the way (derek, eastward journey) of the land of the Philistines, although that was near; for God said, Lest peradventure the people repent when they see war, and they return to Egypt:"
There were two roads from Egypt to the Promised Land. The one nearest the coast was called The Way to the Land of the Philistines. The other road, farther inland, was called The Way to Shur. It went on to Jerusalem after passing the Land of Shur. Shur was between the Brook of Egypt that drains into the Mediterranean at Al Arish and Beer-sheba, which makes a triangle with Rapha and Gaza.
Ex. 13:18: "But God led the people about, through the way of the wilderness of the Red sea: and the children of Israel went up harnessed out of the land of Egypt."
This verse is easier to picture in the LXX. It says, "And God led the people round by the way to the wilderness, to the Red Sea: and in the fifth generation the children of Israel went up out of the land of Egypt." The upper Red Sea was by the road to the wilderness.
Nu. 33:7: "And they removed from Etham (boundary of the sea, i.e., on the southern shore of the Red Sea inlet), and turned again (i.e., turned northward) unto Pihahiroth (mouth of the gorges), which is before Baalzephon (lord of the north): and they pitched before Migdol (tower, i.e., a city, [Jer. 44:1 mentions those 'which dwell at Migdol]' with a signal tower, probably like a lighthouse by the sea).
Ex. 14:2: "Speak unto the children of Israel, that they TURN and encamp before Pihahiroth, between Migdol and the sea, over against Baalzephon: before it shall ye encamp by the sea."
Crossing the Red Sea
Nu. 33:8: "And they DEPARTED from before Pihahiroth (mouth of the gorges), and PASSED THROUGH THE MIDST OF THE SEA INTO THE WILDERNESS (desert)."
Three days travel in the Mediterranean coastal desert
Nu. 33:8: "AND WENT THREE DAYS' JOURNEY IN THE WILDERNESS (midbar, wilderness or desert) OF ETHAM (BOUNDARY OF THE SEA), and pitched in Marah (bitterness).
The Wilderness of Etham is the western section of the larger Wilderness of Shur. Ex. 15:22: "So Moses brought Israel from the Red sea, and they went out into the WILDERNESS OF SHUR; and THEY WENT THREE DAYS IN THE WILDERNESS, and found no water." The desert of Etham may have ended at Marah. Israel continued the journey in the larger desert of Shur.
Nu. 33:9: "And they removed from Marah, and came unto Elim (the valleys): and in Elim were twelve fountains (ayin, fountains or wells) of water, and threescore and ten palm trees; and they pitched there."
Nu. 33:10 And they removed from Elim, and encamped by the Red sea."
They may have circled back and camped near where they came through the Red Sea, but there is another possibility. Red is "cuwph" and means red or reed. Here the LITV has "Sea of Reeds." At the Mediterranean coast, there are several protrusions of land and some lakes. A marshy lake could have lots of reeds in or around it.
Israel must have done quite a bit of wandering to find food for their flocks, for it took them from Nisan 14, when Pharaoh told them to leave, to Sivan 1 to just "come to the DESERT OF SINAI" (Ex. 19:1). That was 51 days of travel. Notice that there is a DESERT OF SINAI. If the real Mt. Sinai was in the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula, it would have been in high mountains. Gebel Musa's elevation is 7497 ft. The northern location, Gebel Halal, reaches only 2920 ft.
Moses took his father-in-law's flock to the mountain of God when God spoke to him out of the burning bush. He had to remove his shoes for that was holy ground. I can't see him taking the flock up to Gebel Musa at the lower tip of the Sinai Peninsula. Gebel Musa is surrounded with large mountains. From the topographical satelite map, it looks like it would have been impossible for this great number of people and their flocks to have gone up the coast next to the Gulf of Aqaba, because the mountains there go to the sea.
Also, Kadesh, from where Moses sent the spies into the Promised Land, is not near the southern location. It is near the northern Gebel Halal (Ciynai, Sina).
Years earlier, Abraham had been in this area. Gen 20:1 says, "Abraham journeyed from thence toward the south country, and DWELLED BETWEEN KADESH AND SHUR, and sojourned in Gerar (which means sojourning, pilgrimage, conflict or dispute)."
Looking back, Nu. 27:14 says, "For ye rebelled against my commandment in the DESERT OF ZIN, in the strife of the congregation, to sanctify me at the water before their eyes: that is the water of Meribah (bitterness) in KADESH IN THE WILDERNESS OF ZIN." The Wilderness of Zin was from Kadesh on up into the Negev. This fits the northern area.
Kadesh was by the Brook of Egypt in the north. It emties into the Mediterranean at Al Arish, which is north of Jebel Helal. Eze 47:19 says, "from Tamar even to the waters of strife in Kadesh, THE RIVER TO THE GREAT SEA."
Moses had to go up and down Mt. Sinai several times. The lower elevation seems more likely for this reason too.
Nu. 33:11: "And they removed from the Red sea (or Reed Sea), and encamped in the WILDERNESS OF SIN (Ciyn, surroundings of Mt. Ciynai, Sinai)."
Nu. 33:12: "And they took their journey out of the wilderness of Sin (Ciyn), and encamped in Dophkah (knock)."
Nu. 33:13: "And they departed from Dophkah, and encamped in Alush."
Nu. 33:14: "And they removed from Alush, and encamped at Rephidim (supports), where was no water for the people to drink."
Nu. 33:15: "And they departed from Rephidim (rests), and pitched in the wilderness (midbar, wilderness or desert) of Sinai (Ciynai, mountain of Arabia Petrea)."
Nu. 33:16: "And they removed from the DESERT OF SINAI, and pitched at Kibrothhattaavah (graves of lust)."
The "DESERT OF SINAI" above shows that Mt. Sinai is in the northern desert area, not up in the high mountains in the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula.
Nu. 33:17: "And they departed from Kibrothhattaavah, and encamped at Hazeroth (villages)."
Nu. 33:18: "And they departed from Hazeroth, and pitched in Rithmah (broom)."
Nu. 33:19: "And they departed from Rithmah, and pitched at Rimmonparez (pomegranate of the breach)."
Nu. 33:20: "And they departed from Rimmonparez, and pitched in Libnah (whiteness)." There is a chalky area along The Way to Shur.
Nu. 33:21: "And they removed from Libnah, and pitched at Rissah (a ruin)."
Nu. 33:22: "And they journeyed from Rissah, and pitched in Kehelathah (convocation, assembly)."
Nu. 33:23: "And they went from Kehelathah, and pitched in mount Shapher (pleasantness)."
Nu. 33:24: "And they removed from mount Shapher, and encamped in Haradah (fear)."
Nu. 33:25: "And they removed from Haradah, and pitched in Makheloth (assemblies)."
Nu. 33:26: "And they removed from Makheloth, and encamped at Tahath (substitute)."
Nu. 33:27: "And they departed from Tahath, and pitched at Tarah (station)."
Nu. 33:28: "And they removed from Tarah, and pitched in Mithcah (sweetness)."
Nu. 33:29: "And they went from Mithcah, and pitched in Hashmonah(fertile)."
Nu. 33:30: "And they departed from Hashmonah, and encamped at Moseroth (correction)."
Nu. 33:31: "And they departed from Moseroth, and pitched in Benejaakan (son of one who turns)."
Nu. 33:32: "And they removed from Benejaakan, and encamped at Horhagidgad (hole of the cleft, mountain of Gudgodah, which means cutting, cleft, between Mt. Hor and Jotbath, De.10:7)."
Nu. 33:33: "And they went from Horhagidgad, and pitched in Jotbathah (pleasantness)."
Nu. 33:34: "And they removed from Jotbathah, and encamped at Ebronah (passage?)."
Nu. 33:35: "And they departed from Ebronah, and encamped at Eziongaber (the backbone of a giant, the wood of a man,or of the strong, or the counsel of the man) a city at the tip of the eastern Red Sea tongue, the Gulf of Aqaba)."
Nu. 33:36: "And they removed from Eziongaber, and pitched in THE WILDERNESS OF ZIN (TSIN), WHICH IS KADESH (sanctuary)." They doubled back to Kadesh. It is fairly near the southern boundary of Israel today, but not in Israel. It is a little farther north than the halfway mark of the border of the Negev.
Nu. 33:37: "And they removed from Kadesh, and pitched in mount Hor (a peak in Idumaea), in the edge of the land of Edom."
Nu. 33:38: "And Aaron the priest went up into mount Hor at the commandment of the LORD, and died there, in the FORTIETH YEAR after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the first day of the fifth month (Av 1).
I can't see that Mt. Sinai could be in the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula or in Saudi Arabia. It seems to me that Eziongaber was the closest they got to the location Ron Wyatt thought was Mt. Sinai. I'll stick with Jebel Helal in the Wilderness of Sin in the north near The Way to Shur.
You must be checking the prophecycorner site. I can't get into that one to update it...Use the pe.net site for now. This is when I'm glad I still have the old site. I try to keep it paid ahead so it would stay up awhile after the Rapture.
I need the prophecycorner site, and am very grateful to those that pay for it. It has enough memory allotted to it that I can have everything on it. I couldn't afford to have it all on pe.net....Lots of the early Pro and Cons are not on the pe.net site. I think the 1st one there is 360 now. I'm sure the problem will get straightened out soon with the other site....
Later: prophecycorner.com is updated now. I'll have Pro and Con 962 on in a few minutes, Lord willing.
I just posted Pro and Con 961. It has news about them finding a Jerusalem-limestone ossuary (bone box) with aramaic words on the side. They say, "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus."
Called James the Just, he was Jesus' half brother, born of Joseph and Mary after Jesus was born. He was martyred in 62 AD. His bones would have been put in the ossuary in 63 AD.
This is Josephus' account. "...Festus was now dead, and Albinus was but upon the road; so he assembled the sanhedrim of the judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose names was James, and some others [or some of his companions;] and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned" (Ant. XX.9.1).
James the Just is not listed as one of the 12 apostles in Mt. 10:2-4, yet he is called an apostle in Gal. 1:19. Obviously, it took the Resurrection to make him a believer. He was a pillar in the church in Jerusalem and presided over the first council (Acts 15:13) in Jerusalem. He wrote the book of James in the Bible. The first verse tells us who he minstered to when he wrote it. He said, "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad." Agape
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