Pro and Con 970

Posted 11-17-02


Hos 5:9-15; 6:1-3 says, "among the tribes of israel have I made known that which shall surely be and none shall rescue him.... I will be unto Ephraim (duel, double fruit; i.e., at the 2nd Rapture at the end of the shortened Tribulation) as a lion (shachal, roaring, fierce lion; i.e., an older lion), and as A YOUNG LION (kphiyr, i.e., as seen in the Lunar eclipse over Jerusalem on 1-9-01) to the house of Judah (praised, i.e., the praised will be taken away in Rapture I, before the Tribulation): I, even I, will tear (taraph, pluck off) and go away (yalak); I will take away (nasa, lift up), and none shall rescue him. I will go and return to my place (Heaven) , till they acknowledge their offence (i.e., confess their sins, I John 1:9), and seek my face: in their affliction (tsar, tribulation) they will seek me early."

Continuing in chapter 6, Israel says, "Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn (taraph, plucked off; i.e., raptured the praised ones), and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. After two days (yowm, days or years; i.e., maybe the Pre-Trib Rapture will be AFTER TWO YEARS) will he revive us (chayah, raise us up): IN THE THIRD DAY (or 3rd year, i.e., 5763 (2002/2003) he will raise us up (chayah; i.e., rapture us), and we shall live in his sight. Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning (shachar, dayspring; i.e., the LORD Jesus Christ); and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter malqowsh, spring rain, i.e., Nisan 1, Second Advent) and former rain (yarah, to flow as water, teacher; i.e., Tishri 1, First Advent) unto the earth." In Luke 1:78, Christ, "the dayspring from on high hath visited us."

In the Six-Day War of 1967, Israel grew leaves, fulfilling the fig tree parable of Mt. 24:32-34. Her new leaves were Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, Sinai and West Bank. From that time to the day of the Second Rapture (Mark 13:27) would be one generation--40 years (Mt. 23:36). On the 1st day of the millennial Day of the Lord, the saints are gathered to the "general assembly" (Heb. 12:23), from one end of Heaven to the other. Those saints had been caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture. At the same time, the Tribulation saints will be gathered to the general assembly in Heaven from one end of the Earth to the other (Mt. 24:31; Mk. 13:23).

1967 + a 40-year generation = 2007 (the Jewish 5727 + 40 = 5767). We know that the Day of Destruction (1st day of the millennial Day of the Lord) is Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets. Mal. 2:3 says, "your solemn feasts; and one shall take to away with it." Hos. 9:5,6 says, "What will ye do in the solemn day, and in the day of the feast of the LORD? For, lo, they are gone because of destruction." Hos. 5:7 says a month (chodesh, new Moon, 1st of the month, i.e., Trumpets, Tishri 1, the only feast that is on the new Moon of the month) will devour them.

Tishri 1, 5768 is Sept. 13, 2007. Fourteen years earlier, the Oslo Accords were signed on Sept. 13, 1993 and ratified in Israel 3 days later, on Tishri 1, 5754. The 14 years between those dates seem to be like the 7 good and 7 bad years when Joseph was in Egypt.

1Co 10:11 says, "Now all these things happened unto them (Israel) for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come." Therefore, the 7 good and 7 bad years seem to be reflected in the 14 years between the Oslo Accords (signed Sept. 13, 1993, ratified Tishri 1, 5754) and the Feast of Trumpets Tishri 1, 5758, which is Sept. 13, 2007. Here is how they would line up in these latter days.

Good years 5754 + 7 = 5761

1st year - Tishri 1, 5754 to Tishri 1, 5755
2nd year - Tishri 1, 5755 to Tishri 1, 5756
3rd year - Tishri 1, 5756 to Tishri 1, 5757
4th year - Tishri 1, 5757 to Tishri 1, 5758
5th year - Tishri 1, 5758 to Tishri 1, 5759
6th year - Tishri 1, 5759 to Tishri 1, 5760
7th year - Tishri 1, 5760 to Tishri 1, 5761

Bad years 5761 + 7 = 5768

8th year (1st bad year) - Tishri 1, 5761 to Tishri 1, 5762
9th year (2nd bad year) - Tishri 1, 5762 to Tishri 1, 5763 (9-7-02)
10th year (3rd bad year) - Tishri 1, 5763 to Tishri 1, 5764 (9-27-03)
11th year (4th bad year) - Tishri 1, 5764 to Tishri 1, 5765
12th year (5th bad year) - Tishri 1, 5765 to Tishri 1, 5766
13th year (6th bad year) - Tishri 1, 5766 to Tishri 1, 5767
14th year (7th bad year) - Tishri 1, 5767 to Tishri 1, 5768 (Sept. 13, 2007)

It looks to me like the Pre-Trib Rapture could take place in the 3rd bad year, the Jewish 5763 (from Sept. 7, 2002 to Sept. 27, 2003). Whether it will be or not, the Pre-Trib Rapture is our "blessed hope" (Titus 2:13).

In Rev. 3:3, Jesus said, " If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour (hora, hour, day, instant, season, the meaning to be determined from the context) I will come upon thee." What can we know if we do watch?

Remember that Hos. 5:9 says, "among the tribes of israel have I made known that which shall surely be." We had better be ready.


Radical new plan for Mideast peace
Israeli movement builds for Arab population transfer 11-15-02

...Named for Benny Elon, the relatively small Moledet Party's leader and a member of the Knesset, the new peace plan calls for transferring Arabs from the West Bank and other areas to what Elon calls the "existing state of Palestine" – the nation of Jordan....

Incoming email, Radical new plan for Mideast peace - From: Zion's Cry

1- Jerusalem's recognition that Yasser Arafat's Palestinian Authority, established under the lengthy peace process begin in Oslo in 1993, is the enemy of Israel. 2- The forcible removal of all terrorists and all weapons from Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) 3- The nullification of the Palestinian Authority as a legitimate entity and the canceling of the Oslo Accords. 4- The establishment of a cease-fire and negotiations under international auspices to relocate refugees in Arab countries and the dismantling of refugee camps, along with the establishment of a Jordan-Palestinian state with Amman as its capital. The population of Jordan is 70% Palestinians. 5- Arabs who remain in Judea and Samaria would be offered citizenship in the Jordanian-Palestinian state. 6- Arab citizens of Israel also would be offered such status. 7- If the Arabs of Judea and Samaria breach the terms of the agreement, they would be forcibly deported to the other side of the Jordan River.

Incoming email
Ontario museum unveils repaired James ossuary

...According to Christian tradition, James became a believer when Jesus appeared to him after the crucifixion. James was stoned to death in AD 62 for teaching that Jesus was divine....

...Toronto...The exhibit coincides with three religious scholarly conferences and the box's owner is scheduled to speak at one.

Incoming email,

Re: Shouldn't we pray against those who persecute Israel? -

My reply

> > Shouldn't we pray against those who persecute Israel?

Mat 5:44 says, "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you."

Rom 12:20 says, "Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head." Agape

Her reply

Re: Shouldn't we pray against those who persecute Israel?

Obviously I need prayer for forgiveness for judgeing and Wisdom for when I pray. I confess to you and to my Lord Jesus that I have prayed that Israels foe's be removed that they would stop murdering. And that who ever is the source of trouble or the instigator be taken out of the way. I have prayed that they (Arafat) would come to the truth through Jesus and repent and be saved and stop what they are doing. But if they refuse i asked that God make them stop by relocating him deportation what ever. (but that would not stop the nations). Im sorry for my lack of everything that Jesus is.
Thank you Marilyn for sharing Jesus with me, compationatly.

My reply

You are so welcome. Thanks for sending the news articles I need to read.

Our prayers for the peace of Jerusalem will be answered in due time. We don't need to tell God how to bring the peace of Jerusalem. He has his own ways and his own timing. He is in complete control of current events. Some things are allowed to happen to bring about the fulfillment of his prophecies. Others are chastisement, and for good reason.

Look at Rev. 8:3-6. It says, "another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer ; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with THE PRAYERS OF ALL SAINTS upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth (picturing the asteroid that is to be cast into the Earth): and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound." Agape

Bush Signs Bill on God References

11-13-02 - President Bush signed into law on Wednesday a bill reaffirming...references to God in the Pledge of Allegiance and national motto.

Is this Noah's Ark?

Incoming email, Re: Faces on the wall

I cannot see the face on the wall that everyone is seeing. Got any suggestions. Also, don't you believe that we are very very close and that Hannukah could be the Rapture because of the lights going out of the lamps. Very interesting when you see the layout of the Mennorah. The beginning to the end which is Passover to Feast of Lights. I think the Lord is reversing the order now. thanks

My reply

I put the two best pictures of the Wailing Wall that I know of on my home page. Someone sent me one of them. After that, I searched via Google and found the other one. The faces are seen clearly. The male's chin is nestled in between 3 dark bushes. Only part of the female face is seen, as if she were behind him and peeking over his left shoulder (our right, facing him).

Hanukkah is the joyous Feast of the Dedication and the Festival of Lights, where the oil of one day lasted 8 days. John 10:22,27 says that Jesus attended the "feast of the dedication, and it was winter....(he said) My sheep HEAR MY VOICE (as his 'Come up hither,' in Rev. 4:1?), and I know them, and THEY FOLLOW ME." Hanukkah starts Nov. 30 in 2002, before winter arrives.

Hag. 2:18,19 speaks of Kislev 24, the Eve of Hannukah, but before we look at that, remember what I Cor. 3:11 says, "For other FOUNDATION can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ." Jesus is the "FOUNDATION OF THE LORD'S TEMPLE."

Hag. 2:18,19a says, "Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month (Kislev 24, Eve of Hanukkah), even from THE DAY THAT THE FOUNDATION OF THE LORD'S TEMPLE WAS LAID, CONSIDER IT. Is the seed (Jesus, seed of the woman, Gen. 3:15) yet in the barn (meguwrah, feminine; barn, granary; i.e., storage place for seed)? yea."

Kislev 24 must have been Conception Day. It was late in the ninth month, and about nine months later, Jesus was born on Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets.

Hag. 2:19b says, "as yet the vine (Christ), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate (the Bride, Song 6:7), and the olive tree (Israel that is grafted back in, Rom. 11:17; all together the Body of Christ), hath not brought forth (the Rapture? maybe): from this day will I bless you." The Rapture would be a great blessing.

1Co 3:8-11 says, "Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, YE ARE GOD'S BUILDING. According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ."

Let's see what happens at Hannukah. Agape

Incoming email, Re: City Under the Sea

10-17-02 -
B.K. Parthasarathy writes about a spectacular underwater archaeological find by a joint British-Indian diving team that could rewrite history.... Local fishermen in the coast of Mahabalipuram in Tamil Nadu have for centuries believed in that a great flood consumed a city over 1,000 years ago in a single day when the gods grew jealous of its beauty.

The myths of Mahabalipuram were written down by British traveler J. Goldingham, who visited the town in 1798, at which time it was known to sailors as the Seven Pagodas. Legend had it that six temples were submerged beneath the waves, with the seventh temple still standing on the seashore.

Best-selling British author and television presenter Graham Hancock took these stories seriously....I proposed that a diving expedition should be undertaken there,” said Hancock.

Hancock’s initiative resulted in the Dorset, England-based Scientific Exploration Society and India’s National Institute of Oceanography joining hands. In April this year, the team made a spectacular discovery. extensive area with a series of structures that clearly show man made attributes, at a depth of 5-7 meters offshore of Mahabalipuram in Tamil Nadu.

“The scale of the submerged ruins, covering several square miles and at distances of up to a mile from shore, ranks this as a major marine-archaeological discovery as spectacular as the ruined cities submerged off Alexandria in Egypt.”...

Underwater investigations were carried out at 5 locations in the 5 – 8 m water depths, 500 to 700 m off Shore temple.

Investigations at each location have shown presence of the construction of stone masonry, remains of walls, a big square rock cut remains, scattered square and rectangular stone blocks, big platform leading the steps to it amidst of the geological formations of the rocks that occur locally.

Most of the structures are badly damaged and scattered in a vast area...The construction pattern and area, about 100m X 50m, appears to be same at each location....

The possible date of the ruins may be 1500-1200 years BP. Pallava dynasty, ruling the area during the period, has constructed many such rock cut and structural temples in Mahabalipuram and Kanchipuram.

The last claim is questioned by Hancock, who says a scientist has told him it could be 6,000 years old.

Durham University geologist Glenn Milne told him in an e-mail: “I had a chat with some of my colleagues here in the dept. of geological sciences and it is probably reasonable to assume that there has been very little vertical tectonic motion in this region [i.e. the coastal region around Mahabalipuram] during the past five thousand years or so. Therefore, the dominant process driving sea-level change will have been due to the melting of the Late Pleistocene ice sheets. Looking at predictions from a computer model of this process suggests that the area where the structures exist would have been submerged around six thousand years ago....

If that were true, it would be a spectacular development. Previous archaeological opinion recognizes no culture in India 6,000 years ago capable of building anything much....

“Between 17,000 years ago and 7000 years ago, at the end of the last Ice Age, terrible things happened to the world our ancestors lived in,” he says. “Great ice caps over northern Europe and north America melted down, huge floods ripped across the earth, sea-level rose by more than 100 meters, and about 25 million square kilometers of formerly habitable lands were swallowed up by the waves....

My reply

Thanks much. Of course, the 6000 years ago sure got my attention. I had to go back and read it again.

NASA Images Discover Ancient Bridge between India and Sri Lanka
Space images taken by NASA reveal a mysterious ancient bridge in the Palk Strait between India and Sri Lanka. The recently discovered bridge currently named as Adam's Bridge is made of chain of shoals, c.18 mi (30 km) long.

The bridge's unique curvature and composition by age reveals that it is man made.


Archaeologists have found evidence that appears to support the theory that a catastrophic flood struck the Black Sea region more than 7,000 years ago,turning the sea saline, submerging surrounding plains and possibly inspiring the flood legends of Mesopotamia and the Bible.

In their first scientific report, the expedition leaders said that a sonar survey in the sea off Sinop, a city on the northern coast of Turkey, conducted in the summer of 2000, revealed the first distinct traces of the preflood shoreline, now about 500 feet underwater.

At one site, the sonar detected more than 30 stone blocks on a gently sloping but otherwise featureless bottom. Further investigation with remote controlled cameras revealed pieces of wood and other objects, possibly ceramics.

The site "appeared uniquely rectangular" in the sonar image, and the stone blocks did not appear to be part of a natural geological formation, expedition scientists reported in today's issue of The American Journal of Archaeology. Analysis of core samples yielded chemical evidence that archaeologists said were consistent with the interpretation that the site was once occupied by people.

Incoming email

Have you ever read This Rabbi Michael john Rood has plenty to say about Christians, rapture, tribulation, the USA ect. Marilyn what are your thoughts regarding his note? Are we going through the trib as he says?

My reply

I disagree with Rood. I can't see how we can be on Earth when the 1st seal is broken. Look at Rev. 5:9. Those saints out of every nation and tongue are actually already in Heaven when Jesus is given the 7-sealed Title Deed to the Earth. They are taken up when John and the other 23 elders are taken up. The elders are the 12 patriarchs of Israel and the 12 apostles. Their names are on the gates and foundations of New Jerusalem in Rev. 20:12-14. When John is caught up to Heaven, the other 23 elders are too. They are crowned and seated on 24 thrones in Rev. 4:4. The Bride saints are in Heaven before the first seal is broken in Rev. 6. Agape

Incoming email

Re: Regarding Peggy Jackson's Post on 5 Doves
Have you seen Peggy Jackson's post? She has two on 5 doves for today Nov 4th. It is about the Rapture not happening until 2005 or 2008. What a bummer to have to wait till 2008. Although we all will wait and watch. We are just hoping this is not so.

It would be too bad for the world to go through 13 more years of Hamas. (six years before rapture and then the seven of tribulation). At the most. And for Israel, wow that's going to be a tuff road. I know they have been through years of trials and probably 13 more doesn't make any difference. Perhaps this is what makes the church Laodiceans. (not watching, sleepy and lazy).

But then again Jesus said at an hour that we think not. So while everyone is watching for a much later date he comes as a thief before.
Thank you for you help and study Marilyn.
God Bless You! In Jesus Name.
Peggy Jackson (4 Nov 2002)
"PASSOVER/ 14th OR 15th???"

...Do not get discouraged my dear. The appointed time for the Lord to come for us will not delay, nor is he tarrying, it just seems that way to us earthlings.

Actually it must line up with the future fulfillments, as you will see on the big chart, ending with a Jubilee year, then after that the millenniuim. We will be raptured before the tribulation begins, then the 7 year tribulation, then Julbilee year, after that the millennium, in that order.

The next good possibility year for our going would be on Pentecost of 2005. If we do not go then the next good possibility would be on 2008. Our problem is that the calendar years were rearranged at least twice several hundred years ago, so we cannot seem to figure out what year we are truly in.

I can tell you this for certain, we definately have not reached the year 2000 yet as it must merge with man's allotted time of 6000 years, then the millennium of 1000 years totaling 7000, then we will go into eternity with our Lord with a new universe and a new earth.

It takes 120 - 50 year cycles (Jubilees) to reach 6000. We are in the last 50 year cycle before reaching 6000. There are 7x7 years=49, after the 49th year is the 50th, Juilee year. I figure (can't prove this) that we are in the 6th set of seven years making our departure within the next several years (hopefully 2005)....

My reply

I think you already know that I disagree with her conclusions.

> > I can tell you this for certain, we definately have not reached the year 2000 yet as it must merge with man's allotted time of 6000 years, then the millennium of 1000 years totaling 7000

I worked hard on Bible Chronology and think 6040 years since Adam was created was the Jewish 5758 (our 1997/1998). Just as the Second Adam (Jesus) was tempted by Satan 40 time periods (days), I think the First Adam was tempted by Satan 40 time periods (years), just as Israel was tested in the wilderness 40 years.

When Adam was cast out of Eden the testing of mankind being mortal and knowing both bad and good began. If we subtract the 40 years of Adam's testing during the Dispensation of Innocence, the 7000 years of man's test would have started in 4004/4003 BC. 6000 years later would be 1997/1998, because there is no zero year between BC and AD years.

Just as Adam (the first generation) was cast out of Eden (near Eridu) in southern Iraq (land of Shinar) after 40 years, the last generation (1967 - 2007) will be cast out of Babylon in southern Iraq after 40 years. Hos 13:13 says, "The sorrows of a travailing woman shall come upon him: he is an unwise son; for HE SHOULD NOT STAY LONG IN THE PLACE OF THE BREAKING FORTH OF CHILDREN."

Gen. 3:17 tells us that "cursed is the ground." Zechariah 5:1-4 tells us more about "the curse that goeth forth (orbits) over the face of the whole earth." An asteroid will destroy Babylon (Rev. 18:21).

> > It takes 120 - 50 year cycles (Jubilees) to reach 6000.

I think the Jubilee cycle is 49 years. That way the Sabbatic and Jubilee years stay aligned. The 50th year is also the 1st year of the next cycle.

> > I figure (can't prove this) that we are in the 6th set of seven years making our departure within the next several years (hopefully 2005)....

I hope for this year, the Jewish 5763 (our 2002/2003).

> > The next good possibility year for our going would be on Pentecost of 2005. If we do not go then the next good possibility would be on 2008.

The reason I can't see 2008 for the Pre-Trib Rapture is the Sign of the End of the Age appeared in 1967 (the Six-Day War when Israel grew). 1967 + 40 = 2007. Tishri 1, 5768 begins Sept. 13, 2007. I expect the False Prophet to be deposed that day.

I also expect Christ to receive his 1000-year kingdom in Heaven that day. After the Coronation will be the Marriage of the Lamb and the Judgment Seat of Christ.

While the saints are receiving their rewards in Heaven, the unbelievers on Earth are receiving their just rewards for their unbelief.

Rev 11:15-18 tells us about that first day of the millennial Day of the Lord. "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art (on Tishri 1), and wast (at the First Advent), and art to come (at the Second Advent on Nisan 1, 7 months future, Eze. 39:12,13); because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry (Gog's army is attacking Israel), and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged (at the Judgment Seat of Christ), and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; AND shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth."

> > then the millennium of 1000 years totaling 7000, then we will go into eternity with our Lord with a new universe and a new earth.

I doubt that there will be a new universe. I think Earth and other heavenly bodies will be refreshed when they need it, not be replaced. Psa. 102: 26 says, "yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed." I take it that the outer covering, the crust, of the Earth will be refreshed. Her atmospheric heavens will also be refreshed. Agape

Incoming email, Re: truth

who has the truth,? if you made such a big mistake? in saying the Lord is coming in 2000, I think church leaders say a lot of things that are not bible, and are leading a lot of souls in the wrong direction, cause they want to be notice, it they would teach the new testament of what love is all about, the church would be better off, but no they teach fear God and keep his commandments, don't even think of sin or you will go straight to hell no grace, in those ideas, even though we are under grace, and no law.

who is the mother of harlots and her 7 daughter?
thanks for you help

My reply

Human beings are not always right, no matter how hard they try. Only God is right all the time. The only rock-hard truth we have is the Bible. As far as me being wrong about 2000, wait till you find out that I was wrong about 1998 and every year since. Nevertheless, I am doing what Jesus told us to do over and over--watch.

We are closer to the Rapture now than we have ever been. We can't give up now. We would probably be like the man found frozen to death just 40 feet from his cabin door. He gave up too soon.

We are to read the prophecies and keep abreast of the news. Many of the end-time prophecies are being fulfilled now. Watch happenings concerning Israel. Just yesterday, the head of the UN said that the UN would guarantee that Israel would be a nation. They plan on there being a Palestinian nation too. Those that know their Bibles relate these things to Joel 3:2. It says, "I will also gather all nations (i.e., the UN), and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and PARTED MY LAND."

I don't know what church you are referring to. The ones I have gone to teach that we cannot be saved by obeying the Old Testament commandments. Even the OT saints were saved by grace. They believed that the Messiah was coming. We have to believe that he has come. The commandments were to show us what sin is. They were our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Gal 3:24 says, "the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith."

There is something we need to do now to get ready for the Rapture. We don't want to be foolish virgins and get left behind (Mt. 25:1f). It is found in I John 1:9. If we confess our known sins, God will cleanse us of all unrighteousness. Then we are filled with the oil of the Holy Spirit. We are wise virgins that will go with the Bridegroom when he comes for his Bride.

What will happen to the foolish virgins? Luke 12:46 says, "The lord of that servant (the unwise) will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (lit., cut him off), and will appoint him his portion (the Tribulation) with the unbelievers." Mt. 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

> > who is the mother of harlots and her 7 daughter?

Rev 17:5 says of the harlot church, "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

This is the Mystery Religion of Babylon started by Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz at the Tower of Babel. The high priest was the Pontifex Maximus. All the 7 kings of Rev. 17:10 bear the title of Pontifex Maximus. The kingdoms are:

1. Babel
2. Babylon
3. Media-Persia
4. Greece
5. Rome
6. Ecclesiastic Rome
7. The UN (United Nations) and UR (United Religions)

When fully formed, the 7th will be headquartered at Babylon in Iraq.

Are you watching the preliminaries in Iraq now?

It is 12:57 AM. Gotta get some sleep. Since Babel's religion is the mother, the religion as carried down to the present may be represented by the daughters. God works in 7s. It means completion. The heads of these 7 kingdoms are the 7 heads of the great red dragon of Rev. 12 and 17. Agape

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