Pro and Con 983

Posted 12-23-02

Beware of computer viruses

I received some the last two days. On one, the Sender was "desrene@lineone.net," Re: "New Love to ur friends!" Another had "goldfish.zip.scr," Re: "goldfish."

Norton found them, and I clicked to quarantine them. However, when I went back to my e-mail document, a duplicate of one was still there. Maybe thinking that clicking on quarantine with both viruses checked, I'd get rid of both and only got rid on one. I don't know.

To be sure, I didn't want to click on the virus to select it for deletion. Some will drop a virus file as soon as you select it. I selected the e-mail above it, clicked Reply then saved that to my Draft folder so I could answer it later. Since the virus was the last e-mail, I closed the open Reply document, went Online and mailed a Web page to myself. When it came in, I clicked on it, then shift-clicked on the e-mail above the virus. This selected all three items. I deleted them, emptied the deleted folder and compacted all folders twice. When Norton checked my computer afterward, it found no viruses.

Incoming email, Re: Disregard December 19 prophecy # 1

From: Jim Bramlett, 12-23-02

Please disregard my December 19, 2002 message titled, "Amazing prophecy concerning Israel # 1" about the rabbi in 1882 and the seven envelopes. I just received the following from my source, Barbara Richmond, who is in Israel right now:
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Dear Jim:
Below is a copy of an email I just sent to Jerry Golden this morning. Unfortunately, on further investigation, it seems now to be apparent that I was misled with the original report that was sent to me about the 7 letters. You are welcome to quote from the message below to your list if you wish. Blessings, Barbara

Dear Jerry:
It was a pleasure to talk with you this morning and I look forward to seeing you soon in Jerusalem. As I shared with you on the phone, after arriving in Israel, I have made more inquiries into the report that was sent to me about the 7 letters claimed to be from a Rabbi who died in 1882. Very sadly, I have come to the conclusion that I was misled with the original report that was sent to me and I am dealing with the issue from this end. However, in response to any inquiries you may receive, please feel completely free to quote this message to you if you wish. It is certainly of the utmost importance that all of us prepare for the coming of the Messiah, but unfortunately this particular account must be questioned now that I have dug deeper into the source. Blessings to you and yours, see you soon. Shalom, Barbara Richmond
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This thankfully sheds light on this report which several have questioned. Note Barbara says, "This particular account must be questioned..." Perhaps it is still possible that it is true, but because of her clarification, it must not be taken seriously at this time. Jim

Incoming email, Re: To Rebuild the Temple! could this be the Stones needed?

Jerry Golden "REPORT"
http://www.thegoldenreport.com/articles.asp?id=65

Enough Marble to build the Temple.


Thousands of these stones each weighting tons, cut and labeled....

...while I am at it, these stones may have nothing to do with the Temple, but it sure looks like a possibility to me. I should also mention that there are many stones with certain markings on them collected and laid in the caves under the Temple Mount to be used when the construction begins. But the majority of the stones will have to be brought in. And now we know where they just might find them....

Comet Kudo-Fujikawa discovered by Kudo on Dec. 13 and by Fujikawa on Dec. 14, 2002

G A R Y W. K R O N K ' S C O M E T O G R A P H Y
http://cometography.com/lcomets/2002x5.html

...T. Kudo... discovered this comet within the constellation Boötes on 2002 December 13.83....

An independent discovery was made by Shigehisa Fujikawa...on December 14.86....

Prediscovery images were subsequently found by Terry Lovejoy (Australia) on SWAN images obtained by the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) space probe during the period of November 6 to 13.

My comment

On Dec. 13, the comet Kudo Fujikawa was found in BOOTES (THE COMING SHEPHERD, i.e., Christ, the Good Shepherd).

BOOTES is from the Hebrew "bo," to come, or the coming. In ancient zodiacs, Bootes is depicted as a shepherd with a shepherd's crook in his right hand and a sickle in his left. The star at the top of the shepherd's crook is AL KATUROPS, meaning the shepherd's crook.

Today, Bootes is pictured with a spear instead of a shepherd's crook. The gigantic most-violent-ever gamma ray burst of Jan. 23, 1999 was in the tip of that spear.

Bootes is a Decan of Virgo. Virgo and her 3 Decans tell the story of Jesus in a nutshell.
Virgo (the virgin) = Mary
1. Coma (the desired son) = Jesus
2. Centaurus (Heb., bezeh, the despised) = Crucifixion
3. Bootes (the coming shepherd) = Jesus Christ coming for his sheep, the Bride of Christ, at the Pre-Trib Rapture

Virgo has the bright star Spica (in Heb., zerah, "the seed) in her left hand. Gen. 3:15 says,"I will put enmity between thee (Satan) and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed (zerah); it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Virgo is the one to bear "her seed." Coma is the virgin taking care of the young child. She is sitting on a footstool. Lest we fail to recognize that it represents God's footstool, Earth, one leg of the footstool is shaped like foot. Isa 66:1 says, "Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool". The seed was to be cared for on Earth, something we couldn't quite grasp just from the constellation Virgo. Knowing that the child was to be cared for on Earth shows us that the virgin was to give birth on Earth.

Centaurus, half man and half horse, depicts the two natures of "bezeh," the despised one. Isa. 53:3-5 says of Yeshua/Jesus, "HE is despised and rejected of men; A MAN (one man) of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and WE (Israel) hid as it were OUR (Israel's) faces from him (Yeshua); HE (Yeshua) was despised (bezeh), and WE (Israel) esteemed him not. Surely HE (Yeshua) hath borne OUR (Israel's) griefs, and carried OUR (Israel's) sorrows: yet WE (Israel) did esteem HIM (Yeshua) stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he (Yeshua) was wounded for OUR (Israel's) transgressions, HE (Yeshua) was bruised for OUR (Israel's) iniquities: the chastisement of OUR (Israel's) peace was upon HIM (Yeshua); and with HIS (Yeshua's) stripes WE (Israel, and all believers) are healed."

The sheep of the Pre-Trib Rapture are symbolized by the Lesser Sheepfold (now called Ursa Minor). The great multitude of sheep of the Pre-Wrath Rapture are symbolized by the Greater Sheepfold (now called Ursa Major). In John 10:27, Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me." At the Pre-Trib Rapture, Jesus will say, "Come up hither" (Rev. 4:1), and the Bride of Christ will rise to meet him in the air. At the Pre-Wrath Rapture, Yeshua/Jesus will catch up to Heaven the 144,000 Israelites and a great multitude that no man can number (Rev. 7:9,14).

Suggesting the Rapture, Eph 2:6 says, "And hath raised us up together, and made us SIT TOGETHER IN HEAVENLY PLACES in Christ Jesus." Gemini, which represents the Bride and Bridegroom sitting together in heavenly places, is on the ecliptic, showing that Heaven is in our Solar System. Gemini is also in the Milky Way, as our Solar System is in the Milky Way. Both the constellations Cepheus (Christ as King) and Cassiopeia (the Bride become Queen) are also in the Milky Way. Since Enoch was a prophet, the Lord helped Enoch and Seth draw the original Zodiac. It's representations are good. They tell the Gospel story over and over.

A Christmas Comet

By Roger W. Sinnott
http://skyandtelescope.com/news/current/article_816_1.asp

My comment

Notice that in this picture, the track of the new comet Kudo Fujukawa shows it streaking down to the horizon. As I looked at it, I wondered if it could be a sign of Bootes (Christ, the Good Shepherd) and Hercules (the Branch kneeling, the Egyptian BAU, THE ONE WHO COMETH, is a sign that Christ will be streaking down to Earth very soon.

Comet

http://www.amtsgym-sdbg.dk/as/Kudo-Fujikawa/

Picture taken at the observatory at EUC Syd and AGS - Sonderborg

Great baptism scripture posted by John Tng on his Five Doves site

"Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." Rom 6:4-6

Incoming email, Re: please post

Pray for Israel
From a Debka report 12-20

Second Yom Kippur War Afoot?
The threat of a multi-Arab assault on Israel, bolstered by al Qaeda, the Hizballah and Palestinian terrorists, being launched in the course of the US campaign against Iraq, has raised its head. A possible scenario to this effect was painted disturbingly by Israel's new defense minister, Shaul Mofaz, when he made the rounds of Washington this week. He called on secretary of state Colin Powell, defense secretary Donald Rumseld and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice and conversed by video-phone with vice president Dick Cheney, who has been consigned to a safe house outside Washington as a precaution against a Christmas terror attack affecting the functioning of the White House. DEBKA-Net-Weekly reports from its Washington sources that Mofaz brought word to US officials that more than one Arab government - not just Iraq - may be contemplating going to war against Israel. This would be in addition to predicted attacks by the Hizballah, with Iranian and Syrian support, the Palestinians and al Qaeda. Intelligence sources, he revealed, had named Egypt, with whom Israel signed a peace pact, and Saudi Arabia, as potential aggressors. In the light of this information, Israel is building up military strength along its southern border with Egypt's Sinai desert and around its Israeli Red Sea resort of Eilat to face a possible joint Egyptian-Saudi strike.

The Israeli defense minister assessed this combined threat, if it materialized, as the gravest Israel has faced in its 53 years of statehood, far in excess of the previous four assaults by combined Arab armies. Whereas previous actions centered on Israel's borders, this time, its population centers would be targeted - both by external forces and inland terror.

Opening shot from Iraq
As portrayed by Mofaz to US officials, the opening shot of the multiple Arab strike would be launched from Baghdad shortly before the US offensive begins. Saddam Hussein would release a flock of missiles, light planes or drones over Israeli towns, armed with chemical or biological agents. This raid would constitute Baghdad's pre-emptive strike in advance of the American military attack.

Israel's two Arrow anti-missile missiles batteries - one in the Negev and the other in central Israel near Hadera - and the 14 US-made Patriot missiles operated by US and Israeli crews across the country, would be fired to intercept the aerial invaders. Israeli air force warplanes would take to the sky to shoot down any assault craft sent to raid Israel's main cities. American aircraft would stand ready on the decks of carriers in the Mediterranean to come to Israel's aid. The US fleet would also monitor incoming civilian aircraft closely, in case they were hijacked by al Qaeda as mass destruction weapons for slamming into Israeli cities, their prime target being Tel Aviv.

A US command and control center on a US AGIES warship in the Mediterranean is to coordinate the US-Israeli air defense system, with the aim of reducing to the minimum or aborting any hostile penetrations of Israel's home front.

A perfect defense would make an Israeli offensive or instantaneous retaliation to an Iraqi attack superfluous. DEBKA-Net-Weekly's military sources say US President George W. Bush and Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon have agreed that Israel will hold back from retaliating - at least in the first stage of the US campaign - if the damage it incurs falls below a certain low threshold.

On this subject, the news agencies reported on Wednesday, December 18: "Mofaz meets Rumsfeld, Rice in Washington Wednesday to discuss advance notice to Israel on the Iraqi war offensive. He reiterated that Israel will not automatically respond to an Iraqi attack in any circumstance."

After the opening shot - which Washington hopes will meet with a zero Israeli response - the US offensive will swing into full momentum. That will be the signal for the second Arab round against Israel: the 10,000-strong

Lebanese Hizballah legion, well seasoned by the long and systematic cross-border shelling of northern Israel, will begin volleying thousands of missiles against targets as far south as the northern outskirts of Hadera. This massive barrage will be conducted with the help of appropriate launchers, a sophisticated transport system and military technical support, all pulled together by expert command, control and intelligence coordination. Its designated commanders are officers of the Iranian National Guards and Syrian military personnel who have been assigned to different frontline sectors.

The Hizballah, aided by Iranian Guardsmen and Syrian officers, have secured their vast missile structure by means of three lines of defense running the full width of southern Lebanon, from the Mediterranean in the West to the Syrian Hermon Mts. in the east.

In the early stage of the assault, Israel will not attempt to breach these defense lines. The Israeli command would rather not send Israeli Chariot-3 and Chariot-4 tanks into the anti-tank missile trap the Iranians and Syrians have set up at strategic points. Its war planners have chosen instead to eradicate the entire Hizballah-Iranian-Syrian military edifice by means of a combined aerial-missile-helicopter-missile boat assault of major proportions.

Conflict turns into multilateral Arab assault. A senior Israeli security source told DEBKA-Net-Weekly: "The Israeli counteroffensive will be mightier and more extensive than any US aerial action in the last decade against Iraq and America's Afghan War bombing campaign. Its objective will be to destroy every last military unit and source of potential aggression in the zone."

Our military sources add that Mofaz told his American hosts that Israel will run its counteroffensive in two waves, the first, to cut down Hizballah-Syrian-Iranian firepower in the initial stage of their missile offensive; the second, to silence the missile barrage totally in the space of 32-36 hours.

But even that all-inclusive blitz will not stamp out the missile threat to northern Israel. Both American and Israeli intelligence have received information that a second-strike capability is under preparation, to be launched from Syria.

Like Iraq, Syria possesses chemical and biological warheads. If they are deployed, Israel will re-orient its counteroffensive to the east. The confrontation will then mutate into full-scale war between the two countries, the signal for Syrian armored forces to advance on the Israeli section of the Golan Heights, and for Israeli armor to begin rolling in the opposite direction towards Damascus.

According to our sources, British prime minister Tony Blair warned President Bashar Assad of Syria's peril if he went to war, during his four-day visit to London this week, the first by a Syrian ruler. Blair was taken aback by his guest's deadpan response: he admitted that a group of leading Arab nations had formed a bloc to launch a joint military offensive against Israel and turn the limited confrontation into a regional war. The moment Israel attacked Syria, said Assad, he had received "more than binding guarantees" that Egypt and Saudi Arabia would hit Israel from the south.

This was the first time that this top-secret intelligence, known only to the United States, Israel and the Arab governments concerned, was openly shared with another party.

During his meetings in Washington, the Israeli defense minister presented Israel's plans for breaking up the Egyptian-Saudi assault, if it took place.

They all hinge on Israeli carrying its military thrust deep into its assailants' territories. As to the means of warfare, it is clear that a conflict pitting Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iraq against Israel will necessarily bring into play the largest number of ballistic missiles ever deployed in any war arena.

Incoming email, Re: PEACE AND SAFETY (I Thessalonians 5:3)

ISRAEL AND THE UNITED STATES

Why is it that happenings in the tiny country of Israel receive so much coverage by the United States' news media? Why is it that the U.S. government is so involved in Israel's political affairs? Learned Christians know that nothing has ever happened, nor will ever happen, contrary to God's sovereign decree (Isaiah 46:9-11). Therefore we must conclude that God is bringing to pass His plan and on His timetable.

Everyone who knows anything about Bible prophecy knows that it is late in the day of the Gentile Church Age and the tribulation shadows are long. Of the many shadows that signal the soon-coming Rapture of the Church and the seven years of tribulation, there is one event that is a surer sign than all the others. Yes, there is an event that signals the first day of the 7-yr. tribulation. The Bible says: "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate"

(Daniel 9"27). He (a man) shall confirm the covenant with many for the 7 yrs prior to the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ (Messiah). To learn more about the identity of this man who is to confirm (guarantee) this covenant with many, let's go to Daniel 9:26.

The Bible says: "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end of the war desolations are determined" (Daniel 9:26).

From Daniel 9:26, I call your attention to "the prince that shall come." It is "the prince that shall come" who will confirm the covenant with many for seven yrs. Here God also reveals that "the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary." Notice please, it does not say that the coming prince shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. But rather, that the people of the coming prince shall destroy Jerusalem and the temple therein is stated.

Remember that the entire 70 weeks of years (490 yrs.) are decreed to Israel and the holy city of Jerusalem (Daniel 9:24). Therefore, the "covenant with many" is a covenant involving Israel and Jerusalem. The man who will confirm (not make) the covenant (treaty) is of the people who destroyed Jerusalem and the second temple in 70 A.D. The prince (political leader) is also called the antichrist, the beast, and the little horn. The Gentile political leader who will guarantee Israel's treaty with many is of Roman ancestry.

It is commonly known that Christopher Columbus and many, but not all Europeans, are of Roman descent. It was the English- European- Romans who first settled the East Coast of the U.S. The French-European-Romans settled Mid-America. The Southwest and California was first settled by the Spanish-European-Romans. The 13 English colonies declared independence in 1776. After the Revolutionary War with England, the 13 colonies became known as the United States of America. President Jefferson purchased the Louisiana Territory from France in 1803. President Polk obtained the Southwest and California as a result of the war with Mexico in 1848. Consequently, the vast majority of the Caucasian race in the U.S. are of Roman ancestry. Almost all the U.S. presidents have been Roman descendants. The Bible does not say that the antichrist is from the geographical area of the old Romans, but rather, as we have proven from Scripture, a president of the U.S. is Scripturally qualified to be the beast; the antichrist!!

Many are looking for someone who is openly anti-Israel such as Saddam Hussein. The Bible does not teach that. In the book of Revelation, in chapter 17, we learn that the beast is united with the MOTHER OF HARLOTS and her many harlot daughters, which make up the majority of organized Christendom. The antichrist professes to be pro-Christian and will guarantee (probably militarily) the soon-coming Israeli-Palestinian-Arab treaty. Would Israel trust an openly avowed enemy to guarantee their national security? In the beginning the beast is cast as a peacemaker and a friend of Israel. See Revelation 6:2). What super-power nation does Israel trust? What super-power country is primarily involved in Israel's peace process involving the status of Jerusalem? Please, dear reader, don't be deceived! Jesus said to the church: "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief , and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."

In other words, if you do watch, I will not come on you as a thief, and you shall know what hour I will come upon you. WATCH for the Israeli peace treaty confirmation ceremony and know when Christ Jesus is coming for His bride.

"And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him" (Rev. 13:4)? The correct answers are….nobody. The beast is the king from the West. The kings from the North, South and East will oppose him at Armageddon. Since World War I the U.S. has been king of the West. Presently, the U.S. has the most powerful military in the history of the world!

"And all the world wondered after the beast," waving their red, white and blue star spangled banners all the way to hell. Again I say, Please don't be deceived! WATCH AND KNOW!!

I would be happy to hear your questions and/or constructive comments. You may e-mail me at jmccutchan@aol.com James McCutchan, Pastor Olde Tyme Baptist Church

My reply

> > In the book of Revelation, in chapter 17, we learn that the beast is united with the MOTHER OF HARLOTS

Good thinking. That is one very good clue that the Roman called The Beast is the Pope. He is "united with the MOTHER OF HARLOTS," THE MYSTERY RELIGION OF BABYLON. He is called Pontifex Maximus as every ruler has been called from Nimrod, at the Tower of Babel, down to the present Pope.

The harlot Mystery Religion of Babylon has been sitting upon 5 kings of the past 5 empires, Babel, Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece and Rome. One ruler "IS" in power as the Pontifex Maximus when the Pre-Trib Rapture takes place. He will be the 6th head of the Great Red Dragon upon which the harlot religion sits. The Tribulation Pope will be the beast of Rev. 13:2-10. Verse 4 asks, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him." You are right, no one.

The Beast will utter "Blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN" (Rev. 13:6). The Pre-Trib Rapture is past. The Bride of Christ is in Heaven. The Tribulation Pope was left behind.

Power "was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations (He heads up the UN and UR, United Religions). And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:7,8). Have you seen the picture of the Pope kissing the Koran?

> > The antichrist professes to be pro-Christian and will guarantee (probably militarily) the soon-coming Israeli-Palestinian-Arab treaty. Would Israel trust an openly avowed enemy to guarantee their national security? In the beginning the beast is cast as a peacemaker and a friend of Israel. See Revelation 6:2). What super-power nation does Israel trust? What super-power country is primarily involved in Israel's peace process involving the status of Jerusalem?...WATCH for the Israeli peace treaty confirmation ceremony and know when Christ Jesus is coming for His bride.

It seems to me that after the fall of the Roman Empire, the Roman power was vested in Ecclesiastical Rome at the Vatican, "that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth" (Rev. 17:18).

Rev. 17:1-3 indicates that the harlot religion will be moved to Babylon. It says, "Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters ('peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues," 17:15) With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication (i.e., joined with her in the UN), and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication (joining all religions in the United Religions). So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness (eremos, desert, i.e., Babylon, Iraq, not New York, USA): and I saw a woman (the harlot Mystery religion of Babylon) sit upon a scarlet coloured beast (Satan), full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns." The 7 heads are the rulers of the 7 empires, (1) Babel, (2) Babylon, (3) Media-Persia, (4) Greece, (5) Imperial Rome, (6) Ecclesiastical Rome and (7) the UN at Babylon. The 10 horns are the 10 subordinate kings over the 10 regions this world has already been divided into. At the time of the Pre-Trib Rapture, the 10 kings have not yet received their kingdoms (17:12). Agape

Incoming email, Re: "1933"

FWD: From: CAPS (21 Dec 2002)
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2002/caps1221.htm

Thanks, Jim. This is very insightful. 1933 I believe was the year that the Nazi's gained power. I remember that year as being significant. Hold on.

Jim, I just looked in 'Hidden Prophecies' in the Psalms by J.R. Church. Here is a part of what actually happened in 1933:

"A certain moment, just before noon German time, January 30, 1933, is etched in the annals of infamy. That was the moment Adolph Hitler was sworn in as the Chancellor of Germany. Over the following 12 years (my note, actually longer) he bathed Europe in an unprecedented blood bath exterminating at least 6 million Jews and at least as many Christians."

"Indeed, with Hitler's rise to power on January 30, 1933, the systematic and 'legal' destruction of German Jewry BEGAN." (empasis, mine)--from H.J. Zimmels, The Echo of the Nazi Holocaust in Rabbinic Literature.
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Also, note this.

"The "Enabling Act" of March 24, 1933 permitted the passage of laws that deviated from the Weimar Constition. So BEGAN the FIRST of four phases of Hitler's plan to annihilate the Jews. The final phase was called the "Final Solution."--Hidden Prophecies in the Psalms.

Note that this was done in the Spring of 1933.

Conclusion, this coming January thru Passover is the end of 70 years of the start of active persecution of the Jews. An attack on Iraq would need to be started before the hot summer. These time periods seem to be over lapping.

Also, consider this. Since the active persecution of the Jews started in January of 1933, then 70 years later, the final deliverance may start also. That would be the attack on Iraq in January. That would start a sequence of events that would result, years later, in the Final Deliverance of Israel instead of the Final Solution that Hitler wanted. David

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